Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state.
Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb
How odd. One or two changes might be understandable. Maybe when he was old
and senile his kids answered for him and didn't know. I also don't know what
NR stands for. Non something? Let me know if you find out
kathy
-----Original Message-----
From: p_goss(a)juno.com <p_goss(a)juno.com>
To: CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: [CLEMENT-Benjamin] Hi there,
>I was wondering if anyone has information on a Stephen B. Clement b. 11
>Dec 1821. He is my ggg-grandfather and why I was checking out Clement
>information when I find that his wife Sarah J. Smith came from the
>William Clement family line.
>Benjamin Clement b.1672
> William Clement b. 1692
> William Clement Jr b. 1712
> Isham Clement b. 1735
> Mary Elizabeth Clement b. 1762
> Mary H. Phillips b. 1783
> Sarah J. Smith b. 8 Jan 1828
>
>Sarah & Stephen married 6 April 1848 in Limestone County, AL.
>
>On the 1850 AL Census he states that he was born in TN.
>On the 1860 AL Census he states that he was born in NC.
>On the 1870 AL Census he states that he was born in VA.
>On the 1880 AL Census he states that he was born in NC.
>On the 1900 AL Census he states that he was born in France. With the
>citizenship section as NR.
>
>Do any of you know what the NR stands for?
>
>After finding the information about the Clement line being here much
>earlier then his birth date, I have a feeling that he was born here in
>the states. And he just might be a distant cousin of Sarah.
>
>Any and all information welcomed!!!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pam Clements Goss
>________________________________________________________________
>GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
>Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
>Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:
>http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
>
>
>==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
>"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." --
Winston Churchill
>
I was wondering if anyone has information on a Stephen B. Clement b. 11
Dec 1821. He is my ggg-grandfather and why I was checking out Clement
information when I find that his wife Sarah J. Smith came from the
William Clement family line.
Benjamin Clement b.1672
William Clement b. 1692
William Clement Jr b. 1712
Isham Clement b. 1735
Mary Elizabeth Clement b. 1762
Mary H. Phillips b. 1783
Sarah J. Smith b. 8 Jan 1828
Sarah & Stephen married 6 April 1848 in Limestone County, AL.
On the 1850 AL Census he states that he was born in TN.
On the 1860 AL Census he states that he was born in NC.
On the 1870 AL Census he states that he was born in VA.
On the 1880 AL Census he states that he was born in NC.
On the 1900 AL Census he states that he was born in France. With the
citizenship section as NR.
Do any of you know what the NR stands for?
After finding the information about the Clement line being here much
earlier then his birth date, I have a feeling that he was born here in
the states. And he just might be a distant cousin of Sarah.
Any and all information welcomed!!!
Thanks,
Pam Clements Goss
________________________________________________________________
GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Hi, Benjamin & Susanna did have a son John who was named in his will. John
received about 50 acres from his father on frying Pan Creek. Benjamin &
Susanna's son Isaac moved to Pendleton Dist., SC. I am descended from
Isaac & Ann Denham Clement's son Daniel who moved to Henry & Benton Couties,
TN. The only other thing that I have on John is that he was born about
1743. I would look for the sale of John"s property on frying pan creek to
see if he remained in VA. Diana
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valkenaar" <valkenar(a)sprynet.com>
To: <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [CLEMENT-Benjamin] SC Clements Line
> Hi. My name is Michele Valkenaar, and I haven't been active for awhile,
but found some info that others in the group might find of interest.
>
> My line is John Clement, through is daughter, Rachel, who married Hamilton
Reynolds in SC or GA about 1791. We believe, due to naming patterns, that
John is a descendant of the Benjamin line, but we've been working on trying
to determine just which John this is, and what, if any link he has to
Benjamin.
>
> John Clements will was executed in Pendleton District, SC. In researching
the Pendleton District records, I have found the following:
>
> Will abstract from Book A, p. 206 (Anderson/Pickens Co., Old 96th
District) for ISAAC CLEMENTS, SR.
> Written 30 October 1805. Probated 27 Jan. 1817.
>
> Sons: Aaron, Stephen, Hugh, Isaac, Jr., Daniel, Benjamin.
> Dau: Rachel Butterworth
> Wife: Ann (Durham/Denham)
>
> Left land -- 636 acres in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
>
> - - - - -
>
> Then, in the early land records for the 96 District, SC, there are the
following entries:
>
> JOHN CLEMENS, dated May 1784. 640 acres land situated west of the Old
Indian Boundary on both sides of Thomson's Beaver Dam Creek of Tygar River.
Bounding N.W. on land laid out unto Joseph Obanion, S.E. on land laid out
for Elisha Thomson.
>
> - - - - - - -
>
> In this same area (Saluda/Tygar River region, around present day
Greeneville, SC), are land records from the same period for other names
which became associated with the Clements family and which are later found
(in 1820) in Lawrence and Giles, Co., TN. These are Reynolds, Hamm and
Blassengame.
>
> They all show up in the 1800 census for the Anderson/Pickens Co. area,
including various Benjamins, Isaac, John, et. al.
>
> Has anyone clearly identified this John Clemons of SC as a son or grandson
of Capt. Benjamin Clements?
>
> Michele
>
>
>
>
> ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
> Documentation . . . the hardest part of genealogy.
>
>
Hi. My name is Michele Valkenaar, and I haven't been active for awhile, but found some info that others in the group might find of interest.
My line is John Clement, through is daughter, Rachel, who married Hamilton Reynolds in SC or GA about 1791. We believe, due to naming patterns, that John is a descendant of the Benjamin line, but we've been working on trying to determine just which John this is, and what, if any link he has to Benjamin.
John Clements will was executed in Pendleton District, SC. In researching the Pendleton District records, I have found the following:
Will abstract from Book A, p. 206 (Anderson/Pickens Co., Old 96th District) for ISAAC CLEMENTS, SR.
Written 30 October 1805. Probated 27 Jan. 1817.
Sons: Aaron, Stephen, Hugh, Isaac, Jr., Daniel, Benjamin.
Dau: Rachel Butterworth
Wife: Ann (Durham/Denham)
Left land -- 636 acres in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
- - - - -
Then, in the early land records for the 96 District, SC, there are the following entries:
JOHN CLEMENS, dated May 1784. 640 acres land situated west of the Old Indian Boundary on both sides of Thomson's Beaver Dam Creek of Tygar River. Bounding N.W. on land laid out unto Joseph Obanion, S.E. on land laid out for Elisha Thomson.
- - - - - - -
In this same area (Saluda/Tygar River region, around present day Greeneville, SC), are land records from the same period for other names which became associated with the Clements family and which are later found (in 1820) in Lawrence and Giles, Co., TN. These are Reynolds, Hamm and Blassengame.
They all show up in the 1800 census for the Anderson/Pickens Co. area, including various Benjamins, Isaac, John, et. al.
Has anyone clearly identified this John Clemons of SC as a son or grandson of Capt. Benjamin Clements?
Michele
Martha,
You are wonderful! Thank you for sharing the birthplace and date of
Benjamin's birth. I am sending my file on Benjamin and my descendants to
you directly by attachment. If you can't open it, please let me know.
Thank you again,
Gail
----- Original Message -----
From: Martha Pryor <marthapryor(a)prodigy.net>
To: <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CLEMENT-Benjamin] Ancestry/Jerry Clements
> I am a descendant of Benjamin Clement through the Clement>Butterworth>Nall
> line.
>
> I am a member of the DAR. My original Patriot was Isaac Clement, son of
> Benjamin Clement. I also have an approved supplemental membership on
Benjamin
> Clement.
>
> My DAR papers show that Benjamin Clement was born in 1700 in King William
> County, Virginia. The source document for this information can be found
in
> "Southern Lineages, Records of Thirteen Families", by A. Evans Wynn,
30667,
> Published by The Author, 1940, pp 109, 111,113.
>
> I hope you will find this information helpful.
>
> Martha Nall Pryor
>
>
>
>
> At 10:04 PM 03/25/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >1. Capt Benjamin Clements b c1704 Amelia Co, Va & Susannah Hill.
> >
> >2. Benjamin Clements, (s/o of Capt Benjamin Clements) b c1735 Amelia Co,
Va
> >& Sariah Bailey.
> >
> >3. John Clements, (s/o Benjamin Clements) b c1789, Montgomery Co, VA d
> >1860-1870 Reynolds Co, MO. Married Elizabeth Adams 2/20/1809, Harrison
Co, KY.
> >
> >4. Jacob Clements, (s/o John & my GGrandfather) b 10/15/1826 IL, d
6/13/1907
> >Iron Co, MO. 1st m Margaret Farris 10/10/1851, Jackson Co IL.-- 2nd m
> >6/6/1863 IL Nancy M Sumners (nee Barton?) b 7/28/1834 d 6/6/1911, Iron
Co,
> >MO. Jacob & Nancy buried Barton cemetery, Reynolds Co, MO.
> >
> >Children born to Jacob & Nancy: Isaac "Ike" Clements -- b 1875 IL,
> >Theodore b 1876 IL, Jacob "Jake" (my Grandfather) b 1880 Reynolds Co, MO.
> >
> > Children born by previous marriage to Jacob or Nancy & assumed the name
of
> >Clemens/Clements: William b 1857 MO,
> >M Susanna b1858 IL, Mary b 1858 IL, Rachel b 1859 IL, George b 1861 IL,
> >Melvina b1868 IL, Delilah b1868 IL & Florence b1871 IL.
> >Note:
> >George lived most of his life in the area of Murphysboro, Jackson Co, IL
&
> >probably died there. We have no family history of the remaining children.
> >
> >5. Jacob "Jake" E Clements, (s/o Jacob) b 1/20/1880 Reynolds Co, MO d
> >2/22/1964 Dent Co, MO. Married 3/24/1901 to Jennie Belle Helms b
11/18/1881
> >Washington Co, MO d 8/21/1949 Iron Co, MO.
> >Children born to Jacob "Jake" E & Jennie:
> >Virgie, Grace, Lola, Verla, June, Clyde, Lowell, & Gerald. One infant
> >daughter died 1/8/1903.
> >
> >6. Lowell L. Clements b 1915 married Grace E Mathes b 1917 (my parents).
> >
> >7. Jerry J Clements b 1937 married Donna F Hedrick b 1938.
> >
> >I am searching for lost children of Jacob & Nancy, particularly
descendants
> >of George Clemens/Clements who resided in the area of Jackson Co,
> >IL(Murphysboro)1880's . Also, attempting to verify my Grandmother Nancy M
> >Sumners Clements maiden name(Barton?). Any info regarding these matters
> >would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
> >Search the CLEMENT-Benjamin mail list archives at
> >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
>
>
> ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
> Please direct replies to the whole group at
CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com so all members benefit from the discussion.
>
>
Jerry and Gail i have capt benjamin being born in gloucester co. , that
came from the ancestrial file at the family history center or
familysearch.org. do not know right now who subbmitted it though.alyce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gail" <GailWeld(a)peoplepc.com>
To: <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CLEMENT-Benjamin] Ancestry/Jerry Clements
> Jerry, I too, am a descendant of Benjamin and Sarah Bailey. This is what
I
> have on your line:
>
> 1. Capt Benjamin CLEMENT b 1700 probably King William Co VA (Amelia was
> formed 1734 of Brunswick and Prince George Cos), d bet 30 Mar -18 Apr 1780
> Pittsylvania VA, will dtd 30 Mar, prvd 18 Apr 1780 Pittsylvania VA, bur
> foot of Clement Hill, m c1725/6 King & Queen VA Susanna HILL b 1710 King
and
> Queen VA; d 1788
> Pittsylvania VA, dau of Col. Isaac HILL of King & Queen Co & Margaret
> JENNINGS.
>
> Do you know where in VA was Benjamin born? DAR says Amelia but it was not
> formed until 1734, and records show that Benjamin's father, William
> Clements, " of King William" moved to Amelia County in 1735 and was
granted
> land there in 1736.
>
> 2 Capt. Benjamin CLEMENT II b 1735 Amelia VA; d 1813 Harrison KY, m (1)
> c1854 Mary BAKER b 1735 VA, m (2) 17 Apr 1786 (lic) Pittsylvania VA Sarah
> BAILEY b Pittsylvania VA; d aft 1793 Montgomery VA.
>
> 3 John CLEMENT b c1786/7 Pittsylvania or Montgomery VA, d 1860-1870
Reynolds
> MO, m 20 Feb 1809 Harrison KY Elizabeth ADAMS.
> Lived in Harrison Co. KY until 1819. Edwards Co. IL 1820 & 1830 census.
> May have lived in Jefferson and Jackson Cos. IL.
> Children: I did not know of Jacob.
> 5-1 Benjamin Sanford b 1810; James b c1811; John; Ethelind; Sally
>
> I am descended through your John Clements brother and his fourth wife:
> James CLEMENT b 21 Jul 1789 Montgomery VA; d 13 Jan 1873 Urbana Champaign
> IL, bur Clement Cem Somer Twp Champaign IL; m (4) 20 Nov 1825 Ralls MO,
> across the line from Hannibal Marion MO, Lucy KIRBY b 24 Apr 1801 Harrison
> Co KY; d 28 Jul 1886 Urbana Champaign IL, bur CLEMENT Cem. Somer Twp
> Champaign IL; dau William KIRBY, Sr. & Ruth CHAPPELL.
>
> Gail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Clements <jclemens(a)misn.com>
> To: <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:04 PM
> Subject: [CLEMENT-Benjamin] Ancestry/Jerry Clements
>
>
> > 1. Capt Benjamin Clements b c1704 Amelia Co, Va & Susannah Hill.
> >
> > 2. Benjamin Clements b c1735 Amelia Co, Va & Sariah Bailey.
> >
> > 3. John Clements b c1789, Montgomery Co, VA d 1860-1870 Reynolds Co, MO.
> Married Elizabeth Adams 2/20/1809, Harrison Co, KY.
> >
> > 4. Jacob Clements, (s/o John & my GGrandfather) b 10/15/1826 IL, d
> 6/13/1907 Iron Co, MO. 1st m Margaret Farris 10/10/1851, Jackson Co IL.--
> 2nd m 6/6/1863 IL Nancy M Sumners (nee Barton?) b 7/28/1834 d 6/6/1911,
> Iron Co, MO. Jacob & Nancy buried Barton cemetery, Reynolds Co, MO.
>
>
>
> ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
> Any person sending a message to this list retains the copyright to it. By
sending the message, you grant to the list owner, and to her heirs and
assigns forever, permission to distribute copies of the message to other
list members, to store archival copies of the message, and to make the
archival copies available to the Internet community at large. You also
grant to the other list members the right to quote your message in part or
in total as a part of their replies sent back to the list.
>
>
1. Capt Benjamin Clements b c1704 Amelia Co, Va & Susannah Hill.
2. Benjamin Clements, (s/o of Capt Benjamin Clements) b c1735 Amelia Co, Va & Sariah Bailey.
3. John Clements, (s/o Benjamin Clements) b c1789, Montgomery Co, VA d 1860-1870 Reynolds Co, MO. Married Elizabeth Adams 2/20/1809, Harrison Co, KY.
4. Jacob Clements, (s/o John & my GGrandfather) b 10/15/1826 IL, d 6/13/1907 Iron Co, MO. 1st m Margaret Farris 10/10/1851, Jackson Co IL.-- 2nd m 6/6/1863 IL Nancy M Sumners (nee Barton?) b 7/28/1834 d 6/6/1911, Iron Co, MO. Jacob & Nancy buried Barton cemetery, Reynolds Co, MO.
Children born to Jacob & Nancy: Isaac "Ike" Clements -- b 1875 IL, Theodore b 1876 IL, Jacob "Jake" (my Grandfather) b 1880 Reynolds Co, MO.
Children born by previous marriage to Jacob or Nancy & assumed the name of Clemens/Clements: William b 1857 MO,
M Susanna b1858 IL, Mary b 1858 IL, Rachel b 1859 IL, George b 1861 IL, Melvina b1868 IL, Delilah b1868 IL & Florence b1871 IL.
Note:
George lived most of his life in the area of Murphysboro, Jackson Co, IL & probably died there. We have no family history of the remaining children.
5. Jacob "Jake" E Clements, (s/o Jacob) b 1/20/1880 Reynolds Co, MO d 2/22/1964 Dent Co, MO. Married 3/24/1901 to Jennie Belle Helms b 11/18/1881 Washington Co, MO d 8/21/1949 Iron Co, MO.
Children born to Jacob "Jake" E & Jennie:
Virgie, Grace, Lola, Verla, June, Clyde, Lowell, & Gerald. One infant daughter died 1/8/1903.
6. Lowell L. Clements b 1915 married Grace E Mathes b 1917 (my parents).
7. Jerry J Clements b 1937 married Donna F Hedrick b 1938.
I am searching for lost children of Jacob & Nancy, particularly descendants of George Clemens/Clements who resided in the area of Jackson Co, IL(Murphysboro)1880's . Also, attempting to verify my Grandmother Nancy M Sumners Clements maiden name(Barton?). Any info regarding these matters would be appreciated.
The following Bible record was listed on the site
http://www.genealogy-books.com/bibles/idxbible.html
Thought I would pass it on to see if it was someone's relatives.
Billie Jones
JAMES CLEMENTS BIBLE
My mother-in-law sent me the following. Someone copied it from a Bible owned
by a CLEMENTS. If any of this means anything to anyone, PLEASE contact me at
kkelley933(a)aol.com.
Paula Kelley, 340 Sumter Drive, Belleville, IL 62221-5748
James CLEMENTS and Nancy _________ were married 27 Mar 1824
W.A. CLEMENTS b 7 May 1851
John CLEMENTS b 1 Oct 1853
Mary Jane CLEMENTS b 5 Sep 1855
Lydia Virginia CLEMENTS b 21 Feb 1859
Jesse CLEMENTS, I b 23 Nov 1827
Rebecca CLEMENTS b 12 Jan 1830
George M. CLEMENTS b 16 Aug 1831
Silas CLEMENTS b 9 Dec 1833
Mary Ann CLEMENTS b 23 Aug 1835
John CLEMENTS b 30 May 1838
James CLEMENTS b 26 Apr 1841
Benjamin CLEMENTS b 16 Nov 1843
Zachary CLEMENTS b 17 Feb 1846
Sarah Jane CLEMENTS b 11 Sep 1848 James William CLEMENTS b 20 Jul 1867
Jessie Anna Lula CLEMENTS b 24 Apr 1875
News: Corporate networks exposed to NakedWife
virus file:l/ICI/Program
Files/NackedLedyVirus.html
Corporate networks exposed to NakedWife virus
By Robert Lemos
ZDNet News
March 6, 2001 2:25 PM PT
A virus advertising itself as an e-mailed photo of someone's wife has
started infecting computers in Europe and the United States and may have
started spreading from the U.S. military, antivirus experts said
Tuesday.
Four different antivirus software companies have reported that at least
68 organizations have computers infected by the virus.
"At the onset, (those infected were) strictly military," said Patrick
Nolan, an antivirus researcher with McAfee's Anfvirus Emergency Research
Team, adding that three of the 18 organizations so far infected with the
virus were part of the U.S. military.
Rival software maker Trend Micro said that of its first three customers
reporting the virus, one had been military. As of Tuesday morning, Trend
had a total of 10 corporate and military customers - all in the United
States - reporting the virus. Antivirus company Symantec said it had 30
organizations report infections.
The virus, known as a Trojan horse because it poses as a seollowing in
the body of the emingly harmless e-mail attachment, appears as an
attachment called "NakedWife.exe" in an e-mail from a known person with
the subject line "FW: Naked Wife" and the fmessage:
My wife never looked like that :) Best Regards, (sender's Outlook
username)
If the attachment is opened, NakedWife displays what is apparently a
Shockwave Flash window with the logo for online media company JibJab and
the word "loading" beneath. While the window is open, the virus deletes
any files in the Windows and system directories with DLL, INI, EXE, BMP
and COM extensions, removing numerous critical system files.
Because of the text in the window, some antivirus companies refer to the
Trojan horse as JibJab. But John Nugent, vice president of Production
for the company, said, "We have nothing to do with the virus."
The virus also uses Microsoft Outlook to spread, sending itself to
everyone listed in the address book including groups. Because it uses
mass-mailing techniques, NakedWife is considered a worm as well.
After sending the e-mail, the virus displays a dialog box fitled "Flash"
and the contents, "You're now F***ED!@'2001 by BGK (Bill Gates Killer)."
While initial reports of infections came from military organizations,
Nolan said there could be other explanations.
"It is not known at this time if it originated with the military," he
said. "It may be that the first person to be infected knew someone in
the military."
The spread of Trojan horses seems to indicate that despite warnings,
and high-profile outbreaks such as the AnnaKournikova virus, a small
number of people are still more than willing to open attachments, said
Susan Orbuch, spokeswoman for Trend Micro.
"Maybe for viruses, social engineering is more effective than new
technology," she said.
Trend Micro, Symantec and McAfee planned to post updated virus
definitions to detect the virus on their sites later in the day.
reported infections but would not discuss whether any.
Computer services company Computer Associates said 10 of its corporate
customers had also reported infections but would not discuss whether any
customers were military.