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There is an explanation as to why this theory is probable on pp.563-564 of
MEET OUR ANCESTORS: Some Descendants of Robert Hubbard (ca.1600-1663)
compiled by Noland (Hubbard) Bowling copyright 1985.
Cindy Headen
mheaden(a)kimbanet.com
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> From: CMW12635(a)aol.com
> To: CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CLEMENT-Benjamin-L] Geoffery and Elizabeth CLEMENT(s)
> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 7:29 PM
>
> Several postings have appeared on the list about a possible connecton
between
> William Clement (d.1760) and Geoffery and Elizabeth Clement(s). It would
be
> useful if anyone possessing any information on this alleged connection
would
> post what primary source proof they have or have seen. Or, in the
asbence of
> primary source proof, what remaining clues point to such a connection.
Thank
> you.
>
> Charles Ward
> CMW12635(a)aol.com
>
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Several postings have appeared on the list about a possible connecton between
William Clement (d.1760) and Geoffery and Elizabeth Clement(s). It would be
useful if anyone possessing any information on this alleged connection would
post what primary source proof they have or have seen. Or, in the asbence of
primary source proof, what remaining clues point to such a connection. Thank
you.
Charles Ward
CMW12635(a)aol.com
Hello list members!
I am new to the Clement line as well as the list. I only last
week proved my Sarah was Hezekiah Ford's daughter even though
a Sarah was named in his will. In searching for proof, I had
to do a lot of research on Hezekiah and one reference sent me
to William Clement's will. That was my introduction to William
Clement. The following is how I descend from William Clement:
l. William Clement d. 1760
m. Ann ?
They had
2. Elizabeth Clement
m. Hezekiah Ford d. 1752
They had
3. Sarah Ford b. abt 1738
m. John Mann, May 14, 1759, Amelia Co.VA
b. abt 1736, d. abt 1790
They had
4. William Ford Mann b. 1760, d. abt 1838
m. Elizabeth Booth Woodson, Feb. 5,1781 in Fluvanna Co.VA
b. February 16, 1759 in Goochland Co.VA, d. aft 1833
They had
5. William Ford Mann, Jr. b abt 1787, d. bef 1860 in NC
m. Nancy Holt, July 9, 1816 in Cumberland Co.VA
b. 1790, d. abt 1862 in Tennessee
They had
6. Paskel S. Mann b. March 12, 1831 in Cumberland Co.VA
d. March 10, 1919 in Hot Springs Co.AR
m. Elizabeth Loy, August 2, 1853 in Rockingham Co.NC
b. 1835 Guilford Co. NC, d. abt 1875 in Hempstead Co.AR
They had
7. Nancy J. Mann b. 1854 in Tennessee, d. abt 1833 in Arkansas
m. William Cary Oaks, April 15, 1870 in Union Co.TN
b. June 17, 1851 in Union Co.TN
d. December 16, 1921 in Kinta, OK
They had
8. Pryor Lee Oaks b. February 6, 1873 in Tennessee
d. July 13, 1918 in Bromide,OK
m. Lula Victoria Hudson, Dec. 8,1901 in Texanna,Indian Territory
b. October 4, 1882 in Arkansas, d. Sept. 6, 1960 in Ada,OK
They had
9. Lonnie Lee Oaks, b. February 4, 1904 in Quinton,OK
d. October 21, 1979 in Oklahoma City, OK
m. Lucille Leona Brown, July 6, 1927 in Claremore, OK
b. May 20, 1906 in Trenton,TX d. Jan. 31, 1995 in Tulsa OK
They had
10. Me - Ailleen Joan Oaks Rutter
I am looking forward to working with you.
Joan Rutter
melr(a)busprod.com
John CLEMMONS 5 (Vachel CLEMENT(S)4, Vachel CLEMENT3, James CLEMENT2,
Benjamin CLEMENT1) (b. 1822 KY - d. 1894 MO) served as a Teamster in
Company G of the 8th Regiment of the Kentucky Cavalry Volunteers from 13
Aug 1862 through 23 Sep 1863. He received an invalid's pension based on
his service, as did his widow after his death (NARA file # WC 603,204) .
Two sons of John CLEMMONS also served in the Civil War. His oldest son,
James Isom CLEMMONS (b. 1845 KY - d. 1894 MO) served two terms - 1) 13 Aug
1862 - 23 Sep 1863 in Company G, 8th Regiment Kentucky Cavalry Volunteers,
and 2) 1 Sep 1864 - 20 Sep 1865 in Company G, 17th Regiment Kentucky
Cavalry Volunteers (NARA file #WC 476-183)
The other son of John CLEMMONS to serve was Samuel Shelton CLEMMONS (b.
1849 KY - d. 1865 KY) who also served in the 17th Regiment, Kentucky
Cavalry Volunteers. He died of measles at Russellville, KY during the war.
I have the original letter sent to the family informing them of his death.
Respectfully submitted,
Marna
mlclemons(a)eni.net
Here are some more.
Third Generation-
Vachel Clement (1762-1833/40) (James2, Benjamin1) was a soldier in the
Rev. War
Clement Clement (1764-1851) (Stephen2, Benjamin1) was a soldier in the
Rev. War
Fourth Generation-
Thomas Clement (Clement3, Stephenw, Benjamin1) was a soldier in the War
of 1812
Richard K.
John Mark Headen wrote:
>
> I know that there isn't the kind of documentation that there ought to be
> for this "theory" of the Clement ancestry, but there is a book that has
> some info. on the line of Elizabeth and Geoffrey. The book is KNOW YOUR
> ANCESTORS: Some descendants of Robert Hubbard (ca.1600-1663) by Noland
> (Hubbard) Bowling. It is interesting reading!
> Cindy (Hubbard) Headen
> mheaden(a)kimbanet.com
>
> ----------
> > From: sean zawilinski <seanlwz(a)yahoo.com>
> > To: CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [CLEMENT-Benjamin-L] Geoffrey and Elizabeth Clements
> > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 8:00 AM
> >
> > Dear Mr. Clement
> > You are not alone my mother and I have wondered about the descent coming
> > through Elizabeth also. Proving or disproving it has been difficult. I
> > personally think she was quite extrordinary and courageous to come here
> > with her small children and maid. I'd be very interested in learning
> > more about her even if she proves not to be the immigrant of our line.
> > It is people like her, courageous, ordinary people like most of our
> > ancestors were, who gave this country its basis for strength to endure.
> > I look forward to hearing from you.
> > Ms. Sean L. Zawilinski
> >
> > --- William R Clement <wrclement(a)mexicomo.net> wrote:
> > > My son started the research on the Clement
> > > family about 12
> > > years ago
> > > and I decided to finish what I could . We had assumed
> > > that our first
> > > ancestor
> > > in America was Elizabeth Clements. Only in a few
> > > personal pedigrees do
> > > I see
> > > this listed. My question is How many of this group
> > > accept or believe
> > > that we
> > > are decended from Geoffrey and Elizabeth Clement? I
> > > realize some
> > > people
> > > are purist and will not accept anything that can't be
> > > proved, however
> > > there seems
> > > to be strong evidence it is true. There is some
> > > interesting stuff
> > > about
> > > Elizabeth that I would like to include in my notes on
> > > the Clement
> > > family.
> > >
> > > Thanks, William Clement
> > > wrclement(a)mexicomo.net
> > >
> > >
> > > ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
> > > The current discussion theme on the CLEMENT-Benjamin
> > > list is land and tax records. Please share land or
> > > tax records on your CLEMENT or allied lines,
> > > especially those that mention or prove relationships
> > > with other people. Other topics relating to these
> > > CLEMENT lines are also welcome.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Here is a first cut at listing descendants of Benjamin and Susannah
Clement who served in the Military but do not bear the surname of
Clement.
Fifth Generation-
William Clement Evans (1837-1914) (William Bennett Evans4, Stephen
Evans3, Susannah Clement2, Benjamin1) served in the CSA
Seventh Generation-
Lafayette Pence Scales (1894-1964) (Willie Cordelia Moore6, Paulina
Agnes5, John Smith4, Dr. George Washington3, Adam2, Benjamin Clement1)
was gassed while serving in the US Expeditionary Force in France in WW
I.
Eighth Generation-
Benjamin Robert Kesler (1911- ) (Mallie Graves Scales7, Willie
Cordelia Moore6, Paulina Agnes5, John Smith4, Dr. George Washington3,
Adam2, Benjamin Clement1) is Lt. Comdr., US Navy, Retired. He served in
WW II.
Lafayette Pence Scales, Jr. (1924-1987) (Lafayette Pence Scales7, Willie
Cordelia Moore6, Paulina Agnes5, John Smith4, Dr. George Washington3,
Adam2, Benjamin Clement1) served as Staff Sgt. in the US Army Air Force
in England in WW II.
Richard Wallace Kesler (1924- )(Mallie Graves Scales7, Willie Cordelia
Moore6, Paulina Agnes5, John Smith4, Dr. George Washington3, Adam2,
Benjamin Clement1) was Lt., Platoon Leader, in the 75th. Inf. Div. in
the ETO in WW II. He was Capt., US
Army Reserves, 1945-1952.
Come on, Clement Cousins! Post more names!
Richard K.
I know that there isn't the kind of documentation that there ought to be
for this "theory" of the Clement ancestry, but there is a book that has
some info. on the line of Elizabeth and Geoffrey. The book is KNOW YOUR
ANCESTORS: Some descendants of Robert Hubbard (ca.1600-1663) by Noland
(Hubbard) Bowling. It is interesting reading!
Cindy (Hubbard) Headen
mheaden(a)kimbanet.com
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> From: sean zawilinski <seanlwz(a)yahoo.com>
> To: CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CLEMENT-Benjamin-L] Geoffrey and Elizabeth Clements
> Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 8:00 AM
>
> Dear Mr. Clement
> You are not alone my mother and I have wondered about the descent coming
> through Elizabeth also. Proving or disproving it has been difficult. I
> personally think she was quite extrordinary and courageous to come here
> with her small children and maid. I'd be very interested in learning
> more about her even if she proves not to be the immigrant of our line.
> It is people like her, courageous, ordinary people like most of our
> ancestors were, who gave this country its basis for strength to endure.
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> Ms. Sean L. Zawilinski
>
> --- William R Clement <wrclement(a)mexicomo.net> wrote:
> > My son started the research on the Clement
> > family about 12
> > years ago
> > and I decided to finish what I could . We had assumed
> > that our first
> > ancestor
> > in America was Elizabeth Clements. Only in a few
> > personal pedigrees do
> > I see
> > this listed. My question is How many of this group
> > accept or believe
> > that we
> > are decended from Geoffrey and Elizabeth Clement? I
> > realize some
> > people
> > are purist and will not accept anything that can't be
> > proved, however
> > there seems
> > to be strong evidence it is true. There is some
> > interesting stuff
> > about
> > Elizabeth that I would like to include in my notes on
> > the Clement
> > family.
> >
> > Thanks, William Clement
> > wrclement(a)mexicomo.net
> >
> >
> > ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
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> > list is land and tax records. Please share land or
> > tax records on your CLEMENT or allied lines,
> > especially those that mention or prove relationships
> > with other people. Other topics relating to these
> > CLEMENT lines are also welcome.
> >
> >
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: William R Clement <wrclement(a)mexicomo.net>
To: CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLEMENT-Benjamin-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 5:41 PM
Subject: Geoffrey & Elizabeth
> This information is for those interested in Geoffrey &
>Elizabeth Clements. I too
>believe they must be the originators of our family line from
>Virginia. Elizabeth's life
>would be fascinating enough just realizing that she came to Virgina
in
>1611 with 4
>small children and 2 servants( Dorothy Green and Jeffress Hull), her
>husband died
>in 1609. Now this was only 4 years after the first group of London
Co.
>expeditionay
>force set foot on Virginia soil. Most of these people were dead and
>probably all
>would have perished had it not been for Pocahontas. I mention
>Pocahontas because
>she was to be a part of Elizabeth's life a little later. Geoffrey
>Clements and Elizabeth's
>uncle, Sir Nicolas Fuller, were shareholders in the London Co. as
well
>as Elizabeth's
>future husband, Capt. Ralph Hamor and his father in England also
Ralph
>Hamor.
>Maybe she had to come to America to look about her own interest in
the
>Company.
> In 1617 Elizabeth and her children were aboard the good
>ship "George" when
>it sailed down the Thames with Pocahontas, alias (Rebecca) her
husband
>John Rolfe,
>Capt. Ralph Hamor , Capt. Samuel Argall who was to become Deputy
>Governor,
>and the ships owner, William Ewen. William Ewen of Stepney Middlesex,
>became
>a wealthy ship owner and daring sea captain. In 1613 he married
>Margery Clement,
>Who was the widow of John Clements, brother of Geoffrey Clements.
>John and
>Margery had a son , John, who died very young also and left his
>interest in the ship
>"George" to his Aunt Elizabeth. According to the book " Pocahontas,
>the Life and
>Legend", by Frances Mossiker, the ship was approaching Gravesend when
> Pocahontas became ill and died. There is a description of St George
>Church where
>they held the funeral and burial. They continued there journey to
>Plymouth Port where
>Capt Hamor took over his ship "Treasure". Capt. Hamor must have made
>many
>trips to England as there is and account of him going there in 1615
>and publishing
>his book , "A True Discourseof The Present State of Virginia". He
>became a
>Member of the "Council" in 1621.
> Elizabeth Clements and Capt. Ralph Hamor were Married in
>1623-1624
>and Capt Hamor died in 1626. A muster was taken of Ralph Hamor in
1625
>and
>listed as "Capt. Ralph Hamor (of College Lands Virginia),Mrs
Elizabeth
>Hamor,
>Jeremy(Jeremiah) Clements, and Elizabeth Clements, her children.
>During the
>Indian massacre of 1622 the is an account of Capt Hamor and several
>workmen
>building a new house for his own use, beiing attacked by Indians but
>beat them of
> with bricks, spades, etc. I presume this house was in preparation
for
>his marriage
>to Elizabeth.
> Wouldn't it have been great had Elizabeth passed down a
>personal diary
>for us? It is very difficult to image what life for her must have
>been. She came to
>America when there were only a handful of women. in 1625 there had
>been
>about 25,000 persons brought to are been born in Virgina and there
>were only
>1800 living souls left. These people had to be the toughest. I am
not
>surprised
>their descendants got so angry about taxation.
>
>
Here is a Clement that probably fought against cousins
Stephen Newton Clement, son of Aaron and Christian (Buchanan), was born Dec.
31, 1842 in Tennessee. Stephen served in the Civil War in the Union Army and
was held prisoner in the Andersonville Prison, where he almost starved to
death. Later in live he was a robust stocky person.
He descended from Aaron Clement, son of Daniel Clement and Wilmouth Irby,son
of Isaac Clement and Ann Denham, son of Benjamin Clement and Susannah Hill.
This info comes from The Post Intelligencer, Paris, Tennessee.
The article was titled: Tennessee Trailings
Clement history followed
by Marty Ball
Cheryl Dillman
My files indicate that the following Clement men, who were descendants
of Benjamin and Susannah (Hill) Clement, served in the US Armed Forces:
First Generation-
Benjamin Clement (ca.1705-1780) was Captain of a Company of Rangers in
Halifax Co., VA in 1755.
Second Generation-
Isaac Clement (1733-1816) was captain of a Pittsylvania Co., VA Militia
company in the Rev. War.
Benjamin Clement, Jr. (1735-1787) provided public service in the Rev.
War.
Adam Clement (1738-1811) was captain of a Bedford Co., VA Militia
company in the Rev. War.
James Clement (1745-1778) was a private in the Pittsylvania Co. VA
Militia in the Rev. War.
Third Generation-
Adam Clement, Jr. (1782-1758) was appointed Captain of Cavalry in 1806
and served in the War of 1812.
Fourth Generation-
George Washington Clement (1819-1910) (Adam, Jr.3, Adam2, Benjamin1) was
Pvt., 38th. VA Inf. Regt., CSA.
Adam Clement III (1826-1915) received a severe wound in the face while
serving as major in temporary command of the 11th. VA Inf. Regt., CSA,
at the Battle of Boonsboro (South Mountain), and was forced to resign.
Benjamin Turner Clement (1838-1913) (Dr. George Washington3, Adam2,
Benjamin1) was Capt., Co. B, 38th. VA Inf. Regt., CSA.
Henry Clay Clement (1840-1919) (Dr. George Washington3, Adam2,
Benjamin1) was Pvt., Co. E, 6th. VA Cav. Regt., CSA.
Fifth Generation-
William Thomas Clement (1839-1888) (William Alexander4, Adam., Jr.3,
Adam2, Benjamin1) was Pvt., Co. B, 11th. VA Inf. Regt., CSA
James Thomas W. Clement (1844->1924) (John Smith4, Dr. George
Washington3, Adam2, Benjamin1) was Pvt., Co. E. 6th. VA Cav. Regt., CSA.
Henry Clay Clement II (1868-1924) (Henry Clay4, Dr. George Washington3,
Adam2, Benjamin1) was Lt. Col., US Army. He served in the Spanish
American War, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetary.
Bushrod Morrison Clement (1871-1926) (Henry Clay4, Dr. George
Washington3, Adam2, Benjamin1) served in WW I.
Samuel Averett Clement (1884-1952) (Henry Clay4, Dr. George Washington3,
Adam2, Benjamin1) was Commodore, US Navy.
Sixth Generation-
William Joseph Clement (1866->1910) (William Thomas5, Willaim
Alexander4, Adam, Jr. 3, Adam2, Benjamin1) was Ensign, US Marines, in WW
I.
Seventh Generation-
William Tardy Clement (1894-1955?) (William Joseph6, William Thomas5,
William Alexander4, Adam, Jr.3, Adam2, Benjamin1) was Lt. Gen., US
Marines. He served in WW II.
Fellow listers are encouraged to make corrections and additions to or
subtractions from this list.
Richard K.
Vachel CLEMENT (b. 8 Dec 1762 Pittsylvania Co, VA - d. between 1833 and
1840, probably in Hart Co, KY), son of James CLEMENT (b. abt 1745 - d.
1778), son of Captain Benjamin CLEMENT (d. 1780 Pittsylvania Co, VA)
Vachel CLEMENT claimed service in the 2nd Virginia Regiment of the
Continental Army, serving from Oct 1778 - March 1782
The following transcript is from the Revolutionary War service pension file
number R21700 for Vachel CLEMENT. The source for the photocopy of the file
is LDS microfilm #970,576 - Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land
Applications, 1775-1783.
****************************************
State of Kentucky Hart County
On this 15th day of August 1833 Vachel Clement a resident citizen of said
county aged 71 years last December personally appeared in the Hart Circuit
Court, before the Judge of said court sitting in open court, and being
first duly and solemnly sworn according to law, made the following
declaration on his oath, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions
of the act of congress of the 15th day of May 1828, entitled, 'an act for
the relief of certain surviveing officers and soldiers of the army of the
Revolution'. That he entered the service of the United States in the army
of the Revolution, under the following officers, and served as stated
below. He enlisted as a regular soldier in the continental line in the
army of the United States in the County of Pittsylvaniah in the state of
Virginia in the month of October, he believed the first thereof in the year
1778, under Lieutenant Gilbert, shortly thereafter he was placed under the
command of Lieutenant Holmes, who was also a recruiting regular officer of
the United States army, and when he entered the army he was put in the
company of and under the command of Captain William Horton, and served in
his company until he was discharged. The company of Horton was in the
Second Virginia Redgment on continental establishment, commanded by Colonel
Freeman, the term of his enlistment was for and during the war, which time
he served fully out and was discharged from the service not very far
distant from Little York he thinks in March after the surrender at that
place of the British troops to General Washington having served three years
and five months to the best of his recollection. He was marched from the
place of his enlistment in Virginia to Hillsborough in North Carolina, &
after remaining there some time, marched with other troops to Guilford
courthouse and was in that memorable engagement fought in March 1781, in
which he received a wound, by having the end of his finger next his little
finger on the wright hand, shot off with a musket or rifle ball. From
Guilford courthouse, he marched with the other troops of the redgment to
which he belonged, to the siege of Little York, in which he was engaged
until the close of the siege and surrender and until March thereafter, when
he was discharged near Little York, the name of the place at which, he does
not reccollect. He was discharged by Captain Horton and received a written
discharge from the service, and his enlistment aforesaid fully exonerating,
and acquitting him from duty under God. His discharge he has long since
lost, not having supposed it to be of any value. He does not now and never
has received a pension of any kind from the government of the United
States, and his name is not on the pension list of any agency in any state
in the Union. He has no documentary evidence of his service as aforesaid,
nor does he know of any witness living by whom he can prove his serving or
any part thereof. He was born in Pittsylvaniah County Virginia according
to the best information he has from family tradition on the 8th day of
December 1762, he has no record of his age. He removed from Virginia in
the year 1811 (where he lived after the war till that time) and settled in
Shelby county Ky and lived there two years, thence he removed to Hart
County, KY where he now resides, and has for 21 years past. He presumes
his name will be found on the rolls in the offices of the Secretary of War,
in the Redgment mentioned and in the company rolls of Captain William
Horton. He is known to many person in his neighborhood & county who can
speak as to his character for truth, & honesty, and their belief of his
services as a soldier of the Revolution. He will mention the names of
George T. Wood, William Allen, Jesse Craddock Esqrs & Doctor Hiraim D. Jett
who he will endeavour to procurr to depose on the subject. He is now old
and extremely poor, and withot diseased with the phthisic and stands in
absolute need of the assistance of his country. He hereby relinquishes his
claim to any other and all other to any pension or annuity from the
government except the one now claimed, he could mention the names of many
of the officers with whom he served General Washington, whom he frequently
saw at the siege of York, Genl Morgan under whom he served at the Battle of
Guilford Courthouse. Genl Green & Major Ryan and others.
Subscribed and sworn to the day & year above named.
Vachel Clement
****************************************
Punctuation and spelling in the above transcript is as in the photocopy.
'Phthisic' is presumed to refer to phthisis - i.e., tuberculosis.
The pension application for Vachel CLEMENT was rejected because his name
was "not found on the revolutionary rolls of Service." His papers were
returned asking for proof of service. It seems that at some point he did
receive a pension however, because his name (with a dollar amount beside
it) appears on an undated list of "Pensioners & old Soldiers in Hart County
Ky."
Tax records corroborate the residences of Vachel CLEMENT as he described in
his deposition.
The residence that Vachel CLEMENT took up about 1813 (that he states was in
Hart County, KY) was at that time in Barren County, KY. Hart County was
formed in 1819 from parts of Hardin and Barren counties, KY. There are
records pertaining to Vachel CLEMENT in Barren County, KY. Very few Hart
County, KY records exist because of a courthouse fire in 1928.
According to his declaration, Vachel CLEMENT was 15 years old when he
entered the Virginia Line of the Continental Army. I also note with
interest and curiosity that the father of Vachel CLEMENT had died within
the 5 months prior to his entering the military. I have no information on
the circumstances of the death of James CLEMENT, son of Captain Benjamin
CLEMENT (d. 1780 Pittsylvania Co, VA).
Respectfully submitted,
Marna
mlclemons(a)eni.net
Dear Mr. Clement
You are not alone my mother and I have wondered about the descent coming
through Elizabeth also. Proving or disproving it has been difficult. I
personally think she was quite extrordinary and courageous to come here
with her small children and maid. I'd be very interested in learning
more about her even if she proves not to be the immigrant of our line.
It is people like her, courageous, ordinary people like most of our
ancestors were, who gave this country its basis for strength to endure.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Ms. Sean L. Zawilinski
--- William R Clement <wrclement(a)mexicomo.net> wrote:
> My son started the research on the Clement
> family about 12
> years ago
> and I decided to finish what I could . We had assumed
> that our first
> ancestor
> in America was Elizabeth Clements. Only in a few
> personal pedigrees do
> I see
> this listed. My question is How many of this group
> accept or believe
> that we
> are decended from Geoffrey and Elizabeth Clement? I
> realize some
> people
> are purist and will not accept anything that can't be
> proved, however
> there seems
> to be strong evidence it is true. There is some
> interesting stuff
> about
> Elizabeth that I would like to include in my notes on
> the Clement
> family.
>
> Thanks, William Clement
> wrclement(a)mexicomo.net
>
>
> ==== CLEMENT-Benjamin Mailing List ====
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> list is land and tax records. Please share land or
> tax records on your CLEMENT or allied lines,
> especially those that mention or prove relationships
> with other people. Other topics relating to these
> CLEMENT lines are also welcome.
>
>
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