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Author: richardclegg74
Surnames: CLEGG
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The above was my grandad. His second eldest son was my dad, also joe. I am his second son, named after my uncle richard who was killed in 1942 Dec.
Phone 01772 728164 FOR MORE INFO
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It just ran across my mind that perhaps all of the Clegg Family
members do not know that Col. Harlan Sanders is one of our family
members, and that he wrote a book which might interest those of you who
are closely related to him. The book is "finger lickin' good", and I
think I obtained my copies by going through Abebooks on the Internet.
The title page reads, "Life As I Have Known It Has Been Finger Lickin'
Good", and it was published in 1974 by Creation House.
It a lot of fun to read.- especially for those who are related to him.
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
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Welcome aboard! I have down that Sarah went by the name of Sally m Charles M. Clark & had 5 children & that's it. You are the second person, I know who had gotten DAR through Isaac McBride What is the advantage of the DAR? I live in OR so revolution war stuff is not common. Through my husband I've gotten a pioneer cert. for OR but that family never came to the USA until 1852 Big difference between 1612. Bette(a)Limo.Net
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I am sending you a message to your Ancstry ID. You, Bette and I should get in contact outside of this message board.
Teresia
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Bette,
Harland SANDERS was my Great Uncle. My Grandfather, Clarence SANDERS was his brother. Cyrus SANDERS married a Hannah CLEGG. I beleive her father was Alexander CLEGG. I just need to research that connection further.
I would like to get more info on the ALLEN side.
Teresia
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I am also through this line, through James Allen Clegg and his daughter, Sarah Catherine Clegg Clark. My grandmother, Myrtle Clark Ettel, and Harland Sanders were (2nd?) cousins and worked together at an insurance company before he went into the restaurant business. This is also the line I used to prove my DAR lineage, through Martha Allen, her father, James Allen married Martha McBride, whose father was Isaac McBride who served in the Illinois campaign.
I have been watching this thread, but didn't realize you were talking about "my Clegg's" until you mentioned Martha Allen! Thank you for more info on the Clegg's! I only heard that they came to southern IN from Pennsylvania, so didn't have any info further back than that!
If you don't have pictures of this family, I have a few I've scanned and could send you. There's also some good info in the Sparks Newsletters in the DAR library. Grandma helped with some of that.
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Teresia, You have double Clegg hierarchy? Catherine was Mathew & Martha's oldest child--James (which I am through) is the second child. Catherine (I have seen it spelled with a K also) was the grandmother of Col. Harland Sanders. Since he is not my direct line, I haven't looked into it. But the Green Moutain Boys (Allen's) is exciting. Bette
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I noticed while reviewing this 3rd page of the Clegg Papers that
they were written by a great granddaughter of Mathew Simpson Clegg Sr.
Her grandmother was Mathew's daughter. I still don't know which
daughter or which great granddaughter typed the papers. Here is page 3:
"Mathew Simpson Clegg received little education, but succeeded
in teaching himself through home study in spare time. In this manner he
took up the study of law and became one of the best pioneer lawyers of
his day in Clark co. He was Judge of the Criminal Court and was
Prosecuting Attorney for the Floyd, Clark Circuit Court.
He was in the Union Army as 1st Lt. Co. M Fifth Indiana Cavalry
emerging as a Capt. after 3 years service. He was captured at Macon,
Ga. by the Southern troops, spent six months in the infamous Libby
Prison in Richmond., Va. before being exchanged. Two sons served with
him. His sons James and Mathew Jr. and two nephews. Mathew Jr. died in
Andersonville Prison. Returning from the war, Mathew went back to his
law practice and farmed until his death in 1892, end of the record in
Baird's History.
The episode of the long quarrel (feud) by himself and his boys
between and against a well known family about 21 years ago is vividly
remembered by all the old citizens of the county. At one time he was
engaged in a dispute over the ownership of a farm, with a William
Patterson, his nephew by marriage. He went to the farm to take
possession and was shot through the lung by a hidden assassin.
Patterson fled and his family soon followed to Missouri. These facts
directed suspicion to Patterson as the guilty party. Capt. Clegg lay
for some time hovering between life and death but finally recovered and
lived for a quarter of a century. The probe used to find and remove the
bullet was in possession of my Grandmother (his daughter) for many years.
When Mathew Simpson and oldest son James enlisted, their regiment
was stationed at Jeffersonville, New Albany and Evansville and various
other river towns. Mathew Jr. (Polk) would deliver food packages to
them. He enjoyed these visits and decided he liked army life and wanted
to be with his father and brother. He enlisted. Mathew Jr. enlisted at
Blue Lick and James at Henryville. Both were enrolled by Capt. Ammons
on the same day, while their father was commissioned as 1st Lt. in
Indianapolis one month later. At any rate, he need not have enlisted as
he was below draft age and would not have been called up for another two
years. Tom, William and Elizabeth rounded up the horses and hid them in
the woods while the rest of the family buried the food and valuables
they thought the raiders might take. Fortunately Morgan turned east and
crossed the state north of Henryville. Bitterness and sadness came over
the family when they learned that Mathew Sr. in Libby Prison and Mathew
Jr. in Andersonville. This sadness was partially lifted when Mathew Sr.
was exchanged. Mathew Jr. being an enlisted man was not exchanged and
remained at Andersonville. The family sent food packages as often as
they were allowed, to Mathew Jr. but from his letters, they knew he was
not receiving them. From the records he is supposed to have starved to
death, which was the usual fate of Andersonville prisoners."
Many of the above mentioned locations are in Indiana, where
these Cleggs located after moving from VA. The above article also
mentions Morgan's Raiders , who made a quick excursion into Indiana. A
separate article relates more about the capture of Mathew Clegg, Jr:
"Mathew Simpson Junior gave up his chance to be released from
Andersonville in a prisoner exchange by trading places with a boy from
his home neighborhood. His name cannot be found in the list of soldiers
buried at Andersonville. However, Pearl Olsen visited Andersonville and
said she knew about his opportunity to be exchanged and released from
the prison and that he had traded places with a friend from home. The
friend was married and sick with measles. She discussed this with the
Park Superintendent after she was unable to find Mathew's grave or his
name on the prison lists of soldiers who died there. The Superintendent
was of the opinion that Mathew was in an unmarked grave or more probably
buried under the name of the boy who took his place in the prisoner
exchange, whose name is unknown."
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
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Bette,
I descend down through Mathew S. CLEGG and Martha ALLEN also. I haven't looked for the ALLEN line yet. Somewhere I ran across info stating that Thomas and family came through Baltimore, MD, but I don't remember any mention of ship.
Here is my line:
Thomas CLEGG and Mary
Richard CLEGG and Mary B. SIMPSON
Mathew S. CLEGG and Martha C. ALLEN
Catherine CLEGG and Thomas A. DUNLEVY
Margaret A. DUNLEVY and Wilbur D. SANDERS
Clarence E. SANDERS and Bertha O. CATHCART
Charles E. SANDERS and Edna M. SMITH (my parents)
My other CLEGG line comes in on the SANDERS side.
James Alexander CLEGG b: 1774?, Ireland and Nancy BIGGS (this connection I am not too sure of)
Alexander CLEGG b: 1798, PA and Hannah ROBB b: 1806, PA
Hannah CLEGG b. 1837, OH and Cyrus SANDERS b.1822, PA
I am thinking that the James Alexander CLEGG my be Thomas and Mary CLEGG's son, but I am not sure.
Teresia
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Teresia, Thomas d ABT1829 & his wife Mary had 4 sons James , Samuel, Richard Hunter & Thomas Jr. I am through Richard & there is not an Alexander down my line. I was just hoping you could use that information. After Richard H. he had a son Mathew S. who married a woman named Martha Allen & I can trace through her to Samuel Allen who came over in 1630 on the "Mary and John" isn't that cool. Anyway, I think it is. Yet on another branch, I can't find out much. I know it is there, but where? If you ever find out the ship the Clegg brothers came over on please let me know. Bette
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Here is page two of the Clegg papers. I don't see a signature, but
perhaps can find someone who knows about the author,
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
" The 2nd group of the Clegg family, known to have come to
America, was Thomas, Matthew, and Alexander Clegg -- from Rochdale,
England -- to Belfast, Ireland -- to Philadelphia, Pa., about 1755.
These brothers settled in Lancaster Co., Pa. They soon migrated to such
other states as Indiana, Va., and Tenn. Col. Harland Sanders, of
"Kentucky Fried Chicken" fame, was a 3rd gr. grandson of the immigrant
Thomas Clegg. Members of the Clegg family in Tenn. that descended from
Alexander Clegg, changed the spelling to Cleage, after the Civil War.
**I think Alex and Matt came about 1755 and Thomas came after Rev. War.
Alex was captured by Indians in 1793 from Dunkard Creek, now Green Co.
SW Pa. and held prisoner several years, also 2 little daughters with him.
The 3rd group of the Clegg family, known to have come to
America, was the family of Reston Nance Clegg -b. 1882 Lancashire,
England- to Boston, Mass. in 1900 -- to Durham, N. C. in 1904 - to
Granville Co., N. C. in 1907. Descendants live at Creedmoor, N. C.
Thomas Clegg died Moundsville, Va (W. Va. now) 1829. Probably
lived in N. Augusta District of Va now S. W. Pa. and panhandle of W. Va.
Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames By Bardsley
Local of Clegg, a North English Surname. Almost
all our Cleggs hail from Clegg or Clegg Hall in the parish of Rochdale
(near Liverpool)
It is reported by a grandson that Mathew Simpson Clegg insisted
that his name was spelled with one "t", instead of two as in the "Gospel
of Matthew"."
I have run across a few papers which I haven't read for years.
They may be of interest to others. If so I will type and send them
along to the list:
"Tradition of the Clegg family is that members of the family went
to England, from France, in 1066, along with the Norman Invasion of
William The Conqueror. they settled in England in adjoining Lancashire
(Rochdale) and Yorkshire (Wakefield), a few miles inland from Liverpool
Bay of the Irish Sea --- the northwest coastline of England, near the
cities of Manchester and Liverpool.
Noted members of the Clegg family in England include: Nicholas
Clegg and Mathew de Clegg, lining (living?) in Lancashire in 1260; John
Clegg, 1714-1746; James Clegg, 1679-1755, physician and Presbyterian
minister; Samuel Clegg, Sr. & Jr., 1781-1861 & 1818-1856, gas lighting
engineers. Members of the Clegg family were reported as titled in
England. The Chatham Co., N. C. Clegg family had Royal ancestry through
Bridget Polk, and the maiden lines of the Polk family.
We show records of 3 Clegg migrations to America: 1st., Henry
Clegg in 1682, from Wakefield, England to Northampton County, Va. This
section of the family continued to migrate to Va. until at least 1734 -
some reports say as many as 7 brothers - we list Henry in 1682, John in
1685, Peter, and George; with Isaac D. Clegg, grandson of John, coming
in 1734. All show to have settled in what is now Northampton County -
was part of Accomack County. Marriage ties and many of the ancestral
families were in adjoining Somerset County, Md. Early ancestry includes
Capt. John Wilkins, in Va. in 1623; and Major John Hansford of the
Jamestown Colony, May 23, 1609 - and descends through Major John
Birdsong to descendants of the Chatham Co., N. C. Clegg family. The
Chatham Co., N. C. Clegg family was from the Virginia Clegg family,
through Thomas A. Clegg and wife, Bridget Polk."
Has everyone read this before? If you don't want to read it
again, let me know, otherwise I'll send page 2 later.
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
Teresia and Bettie,
I have been looking over some old messages, and noticed the surnames
on this email.
They are connected with my husband's ancestors Thomas Clegg ca 1750-1830
and his
wife Mary. Clifford descended through Thomas' son Richard 1776-1853.
who is buried
in Little Union Cemetery in Henryville, Indiana. Richard's wife, Mary
B. (Simpson) Clegg
is buried there with him. As I recall, their daughter is buried between
the two of them.
Richard Clegg 1776 was my husband's 3rd great grandfather.
Richard's son, Mathew
Clegg and Mathew's wife, Martha (Allen) were Clifford's 2nd great
grandparents. Mathew
and Martha Clegg were the great grandparents of my husband's mother and
Col. Harlan Sanders 1890-1980. Mathew was a self educated lawyer,
fought in the Civil
War and was taken prisoner. He was judge of the Criminal Court; and
Prosecuting
Attorney for many years according to Baird's History of Clark County
..
According to Blaine Clegg in his book, Cleggs of the Upper Ohio
Valley, Alexander Clegg born ca 1769 stayed in Ireland. Another son of
Thomas Clegg was James Clegg born ca 1771 who is buried in Guernsey
County, OH This James Clegg born ca 1771 had a son Alexander Clegg
born ca 1798 (1796?) who is buried in Scott County, IN. He was born in
PA. Alexander Clegg born ca 1798 married 1st Hannah (Robb) 4-8-1823 and
2nd Sarah (Babbitt) 5-25-1857.
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
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Bette,
Sorry for the long delay in contacting you. I did get your letter (from the book "Th Cleggs of Old Chatham"); I just now had time to sit down and look at it.
Do I have it right the elder Alexander CLEGG mentioned; is he the son of Thomas and Mary CLEGG? His son Alexander, who settled in Washington Co., PA may be the one I am looking for. I need to dig out my CLEGG info and see if there is a match.
Teresia
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