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> Died in Madison, Morgan Co., Ga., on the 6th inst., Robert Cleveland,
> aged 4 years, 10 months and 23 days
This was found in the Greenville, SC Mountaineer from March 23, 1844.
Who were this child's parents?
I would love to hear from any Clevelands or Cleavelands from the province of
Quebec Canada. I have a Cottage Bible with entry's for Holsey Cleveland and
his children that I have scanned if you would like a copy. Some lists spell
it Halsey however it is embossed on the front of the Bible as Holsey.
My e-mail addresses are C_Cleveland(a)hotmail.com and ldpharmtec(a)netscape.net
Luv
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Relative to the current debate on the spelling:
Long before the founding of the city of Cleveland, OH,
some of our ancestors spelled the name as "Cleveland".
Micro-film of the original March 12, 1713/14 probate
records, dealing with the survivors of Josiah Cleaveland,
indicates that the name was spelled "Cleavland" (yes w/o the "e") by the court, but both young John and Henry signed
using the "Cleveland" spelling.
If anyone would like a .jpg scan of this record, just ask.
Dick F
For what it is worth.... In my GGG Grandfather papers....(actually his
Blackhawk War Pension file). There are document with both spellings;
CLEVELAND and CLEAVELAND in the body of the same documents.
The documents themselves were signed with "their marks" ... X
The bottom line to me is that "Gold is where you find it" and "Spelling
doesn't count"
/s/
kNorm (<- the k is silent as in knife)
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Thank you
Teri
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From: MilDeese(a)aol.com
Date sent: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 01:04:45 EST
Subject: Cleveland
To: tc186698(a)ohiou.edu
My husbands mother's side of the family were Cleavland
(Cleveland). George Cleavland(Cleveland) of Miller Co., GA.
I am trying to make contact with all Cleveland.
Mildeese(a)aol.com
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The original spelling included a DE at the start, i.e., de Cleaveland or de
Cleveland; both names with and without the A seem to have been used in this
country.
So far the Plain Dealer and the Herald newspapers have been mentioned.
If, as stated below, the Advertiser was the first newspaper, it seems
the most likely candidate. Whether lacking an "a" one day or having a
type-fitting problem, the fact is that it was changed to the present
version. Or was it? I don't know about this particular case, but before
about 1880 I find that many of my ancestors were appearing as
Cleaveland, Cleeveland, Clevland, you name it. Consistent spelling of
names was not such a big deal then. Most of the time we see Cleveland
though, even way back when, and even moreso today. I think it's simply
the spelling that most people liked and/or decided to settle for.
Perhaps even Captain Moses spelled it that way sometimes. On his statue
in the City of Cleveland, however, it is spelled "Cleaveland."
The following is from this US Army Corps of Engineers site, which also
has a photo of Moses' statue in Cleveland:
<http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/history/vignettes/vignette_10.htm>
"Moses Cleaveland (1754-1806) served during the American Revolution as a
captain in one of the three companies of Sappers and Miners in the Corps
of Engineers. A native of Connecticut, Cleaveland graduated from Yale
University before entering the Army as a lieutenant in 1777. After the
war Cleaveland practiced law, rose to the rank of brigadier general in
the Connecticut militia, was a delegate to the state convention to
ratify the U.S. Constitution, and served for more than 18 years in the
general assembly.
Cleaveland took a special interest in western land speculation. He was
one of 36 investors who formed the Connecticut Land Company in 1795 to
develop 3.3 million acres in Connecticut’s Western Reserve (located in
the northeast corner of present-day Ohio). Cleaveland became one of the
company’s directors and superintendent-in-charge of surveying and
settling the territory. In 1796, he led a party of 52 persons to
negotiate with local Indian tribes, survey the land, and identify
purchases.
That July, General Cleaveland landed at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River.
Observing the surrounding country and proximity to the river and Lake
Erie he decided it was an excellent location for a town. Cleaveland had
the area laid out in lots and the members of his party named it
Cleaveland in his honor.
The town grew slowly at first; the population reached only 150 by 1820.
But Moses Cleaveland’s little town on the Cuyahoga was destined to
become one of the leading cities of the region.
Legend has it that when Cleveland's first newspaper, The Cleveland
Advertiser, was established in 1830, the editor dropped the "a" from
Cleaveland’s name in order to fit the masthead on the page -- the change
stuck."
-rex cleveland
According to a 5 Oct 1938 *Believe It or Not* by Robert L. Ripley,
the correct spelling of the name of the city of Cleveland is indeed
Cleaveland, named in honor of its founder, Moses Cleaveland. The change in
spelling was caused by the fact that the *A* in the heading of the
*Cleaveland Herald* became battered and dropped out. The only date for this
change I have seen was 1832.
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Can anyone help this gentleman out? I too have heard the story of
the newspaper, but what I heard was that the name CLEAVELAND
would not find across a column during Pres. Cleveland's time in
office.
Please respond to the list as I think this would be an interesting
discussion!
Teri
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Date sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:56:45 -0700
Subject: Looking for information, stumbling
across more
From: Ted Hopes <thopes(a)fastq.com>
To: tc186698(a)ohiou.edu
Hello,
I was searching for information, and perhaps you can supply it. I
am
guess that you can because your name is "Cleaveland" and your
email
address reflects "Ohio." I have looked in the History of Cleveland
site and gotten nowhere; but lost. I am trying to find out when, and
why, the name of Cleveland was changed from Cleaveland. The
Encyclopedia Britannica says it happened in 1832 because a
newspaper
needed more room for its Masthead. That sounds doubtful (the
reason,
not the date), and I wonder if you know more about it. The name of
the
newspaper, for example. I immediately thought of the Plain Dealer
because it is a somewhat long name, but that didn't begin until the
1840s.
While looking at your site, however, I came across what I guess is
a
sub-site on the family name "Hope." I wonder if you have, or know
of,
a site on the family name "Hopes."
Thanks for any information you can supply, and I enjoyed viewing
your
web site.
Ted Hopes
Glendale, Arizona
(Cleveland born, 1931, grew up in Lakewood and Euclid, thence to
California, San Francisco, Korea, San Francisco, New York - 25
yrs-
then here)
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