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Forwarding this in the hopes that someone might be able to help.
Kathy
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Hi Kathy,
You seem to be pretty well versed in Cleveland and I wondered if you had any
in Southern Illinois in the 1800's.
I have a GGG Grandfather Jesse Cleveland b: circa 2/1815 Tenn. who ended up in
Franklin Co. Illinois and I am working backward from there.
Thanks for your time.
Norm Steffen
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From: "Will Pratt" <prattw(a)pioneer.nevada.edu>
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Subject: Cleveland genealogy
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:57:37 -0800
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Kathy,
You have mentioned in postings on the GenForum Cleveland message board that
you are working on an extended Cleveland genealogy. I am researching a
family friend's genealogy for her. I have managed so far to carry one line
back to Milton Thomas Cleveland, who m. 8 Dec 1895, in McKinney, Collin Co,
TX Ella McMinany. Does Milton Thomas (may just possibly be Melton Thomas)
connect into any work you've done so far? I estimate that he would have
been born ca 1870. If he does connect, I can extend that line to the
present.
Thanks,
Will
William L. Pratt, Ph.D., Curator of Invertebrates, Barrick Museum
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John , I also am from Mahala Cleveland B; 1816 who m; Nathanial Jones and
they lived in Franklin Co. Il. I believe Jesse Cleveland is the brother to
Mahala but found no proof , he named a daughter after Mahala .In a census
Jesse said he was b; near Knoxville , Tn .
There was also a Andrew J Cleveland , who lived for awhile in Franklin Co.
He was B; 23 Jan. 1820 Sumner Co. Tn .so could be another brother , that
family moved on to Saline Co. Galatia , Il.
l was glad to see someone else working on this line . Hopefully we can come
up with there family . Catherine
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Does anyone have anything on Jesse Cleveland, born near Knoxville,
Tenn. in 1815? Later Franklin County, IL. Might have had a sister,
Mahalaalso, later of Franklin Co. IL
We do appreciate any and all.
John Cleavelin
Jeanne, what was your question on Daniel Early Cleveland?
If it's not about the Glenn line, I may can help.
Did Stuart put you in touch with Henry Drennen?
later,
grace
I can't remember who it was, but one of you wonderful Cleveland researchers
forwarded my query re Daniel Early Cleveland (Elbert Co, GA) to the
"Cleveland Chronicals". THANKS! I received a letter from Stuart Lyle, who
had seen the query, and he was able to put me in contact with a Cleveland
cousin in Elberton. I sure appreciate your help!!!
Happy Holidays!
Jeanne Arguelles
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Teri
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Daniel Cleveland, who died in San Diego in 1929, had a brother William,
about whom I know nothing. However Daniel was born in Poughkeepsie, son
of Stephen Cleveland.
William Chauncy Cleveland lived in Stanislaus County in 1910. He is the son
of William Cleveland and Delight Palmer Bennett of San Benito and San
Francisco Counties. It is believed that William was born in Illinois June
18, 1850 (probably in the town of Walnut, Bureau Co.) His family came to
California in about 1860. The family lived in Grass Valley, Mountain View,
Gilroy, Watsonville, San Felipe, and San Francisco. We believe William
married Mary Alberta Clark in San Felipe on Dec. 17, 1878. Together they
had eight children. The names we know of for their children are Jesse born
about 1884, Albert born about 1881, and Louis and John (dates unknown), as
well as four others we know nothing about. We would be most interested to
find out any additional information on this family or their descendants,
including long lost cousins that may still be living. I have already
connected with two cousins, and we look forward to finding more of you out
there! We have lots of family information to share too!
Please let me know if this sounds familiar to any of you out there.
Thanks,
Maggie Hall
Great great granddaughter of William Cleveland and Delight Palmer Bennett