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Hi,
I'am looking for information on ROBERT CLEVELAND {CLEAVELAND}.
he was born; 12 May 1794.
died; 27 Dec 1866,Raleigh Twp,Kent County,Ontario Canada
Does anyone know who his parents were??????????
married; 23 Jan 1821 Digby, Nova Scotia MARIA ARNOLD
Children of ROBERT CLEVELAND AND MARIA ARNOLD
1.JOHN HENRY CLEVELAND b;26 Jan 1821 Digby,N.S.
m;EUPHEMIA LAURIE
2.MARY CLEVELAND b;23 Jul 1826 Digby,N.S.
d; Aug 1826
3.GEORGE WILLIAM CLEVELAND b;23 Jul 1826 Digby, N.S.
m;CHARLOTTE JURUSHA SHIPPY
4.ROBERT CLEVELAND b;17 Sep 1827 Digby,N.S.
5.JANE CLEVELAND b;18 Nov 1829 Digby,N.S.
d;19 Oct 1831 Digby,N.s.
6.PHOEBE CLEVELAND b; 1830
d; 1854
m; 1849 CHARLES BROWN
7.JAMES CLEVELAND b; 1835 Kent Co, Ontario,Ca
M; 1857 CATHERINE MAYNARD
8.MARIA CLEVELAND b;03 Aug 1837 Kent Co, Ontario, Ca
9.NANCY CLEVELAND b;16 Nov 1842 Kent Co, Ontario, C
d;01 Feb 1922 Lake Charles,Louisiana
m;09 Nov 1863 EDWARD LORENZO LEE
10.SILAS CLEVELAND b;09 Jul 1844 Kent Co, Ontario, Ca
Would like to have contact with anyone having information on this family
and am very willing to share information that I have .
I have a death certificate for a;
FRANCIS WARD CLEVELAND b;26 Apr 1921 Risco, New Madrid County, Missouri
d;06 May 1985 Caln Twp, Chester Co, Pa
m; C LORAINNE KUYKENDALL
FRANCIS was a soil scientist and worked for the U.S. Goverment
his father was;JOHN EDGAR CLEVELAND
mother was;SARAH HUFFINE
If anyone is doing research on this family and would like to have this
death certificate please contact me at jevincent(a)plix.com
Thank You and Have a very Happy New Year.
Nita Cleveland Vincent
The person with the most surnames when they die "WINS"
Hello. I am looking for information on my CLEVELAND ancestors. My Grandmother
was LYDIA CLEVELAND b 7-27-1897 d 5-23-1988. Her parents were
LYSANDER CLEVELAND b 5-2-1856 d 9-10-1933 and
JULIETTE YOUNGS b 8-4-1856 d 6-19-1936
LYSANDER's parents were JOHN CLEVELAND and MARTHA TIFFANY dates unknown. If
anyone has any information on this family I would love to hear from you. I
have quite a bit from LYSANDER to the present but not much from the line
further back. Thank you.
Gary South
877 Potic Mt Rd
Catskill NY 12414
518-945-2654
GSOUTH945(a)aol.com
STEWART, SOUTH, HOLCOMB, CLEVELAND, YOUNGS, VARDY, NORDENBERG, TRAVELL,
ROBBINS
My Great Great Grandfather WiliamRiley Cleveland born 1795 Massachussetts
looking for his parents.
Sandra Bushaw
717 Nth 18thPlace
Mount Vernon Wa 98273
sandy(a)valleyint.com
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In response to Carol's Query:
Edward Cleveland b. 20 May 1664 was married to Deliverance Palmer. Does
anyone have any information on her lineage.
Deliverance Palmer b. ca 1664/65,m m. ca. 1684
she was the daughter of George Palmer. We find him first as a grantee at
Warwick, Rhode Island, 19 Sep 1654. Freeman there, 18 Jun 1654;grantee
at Providence, 27 Apr 1659. He bought land at North Kingston, 27 Jan
1660/61; was listed "of Providence" in a deed of 27 July (Oct) 1662.
Took oath of allegiance as an inhabitant of Narragansett in favor of
Connecituct jurisdiction, 3 July 1663. He operated a grist mill on the
Mattatuxet River, and on 30 Nov. 1686, this land was in the possession of
his widow, Bethia. He married 30 Sep 1662, to Bethia Mowry, dau. of
Roger Mowry of Providence and his wife Mary Johnson of Roxbury, Ma. (dau.
of Capt. John Johnson and his wife Margery (thought to be Heath).
At present, I only have two children listed for George and Bethia Palmer.
Deliverance and her sister: Hannah, b. 10 Oct 1663, m. 1680/82 to
Nicholas Gardiner of Kingstown, R.I., son of George Gardiner and Herodias
Long.
I also have Roger Mowry's children, and Capt. John Johnson's children.
Hope this is a help,
Wendy Lawrence
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The good folks who run RootsWeb, Brian Leverich and Karen Isaacson, where
our family list makes its home, have advised that we now have an archive
system. This means that you can retrieve old messages.
The URL to retrieve archives for the CLEAVELAND Family list are:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/CLEAVELAND-L/
for the MAIL version, or
http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/CLEAVELAND-D/
for the DIGEST version
go ahead and give it a whirl if you want.
Unfortunately, archives currently will only be for messages from this date
forward for the present time. They are still working and hopefully at some
future date we will have access to old archived messages from an earlier
date, but his is a start.
If you are searching for archives for other list, you can find that
information by going to either:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
and type in the name you are searching for, or you can scroll through the
602 lists that are currently set up on archives by going to:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/
Sorry to be a little slow with getting this out. I even copied
someone else's format to get it out quicker. Put Terry in the VA
hospital with some kind of internal infection last night. Any and
all prayers are appreciated.
Terry & Teri Cleaveland
Terry (Phil 4:13) Teri (Ps 37:5)
Lancaster, OH
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Edward Cleveland b. 20 May 1664 was married to Deliverance Palmer. Does
anyone have any information on her lineage.
Carol
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Enoch Cleveland b. in 1725 was married to Deborah Fassett. Does anyone
have any informaiton on her lineage.
Carol
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Enoch Cleveland b. in 1725 was married to Deborah Fassett. Does anyone
have any informaiton on her lineage.
Carol
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Thought some of you might be able to use this tip also!!
Teri
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From: joycestevens(a)juno.com
To: dgannon(a)freenet.npiec.on.ca, Housman(a)concentric.net, JohnSour(a)ili.net,
e-lorente(a)renc.igs.net, LytleN(a)docker.com, Brianfinn(a)hotmail.com,
Ontario(a)listserv.northwest.com, PENNA-DUTCH-L(a)rootsweb.com,
LouiseRom(a)aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 09:31:20 -0500
Subject: Helpful tip
This tip started in England, went to Australia and is now in the United
States being forwarded wherever. After straining my eyes trying to read
almost illegible film and reading this message, I'm going to a store and
buy a package of children's colored contruction paper.
Joyce Stevens
Livonia, MI USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Perkes [SMTP:rdp@utah-inter.net]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 1997 8:27 PM
To: somerset-l(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: FILM READING TIP!!
Hi to everyone and Happy Holidays
I was in the LDS family history library yesterday looking at a film in =
Bridgewater, Somerset, England, the film was very washed out or light =
which made it more difficult to read. I tried to use a magnifying glass =
which helped a little when a Liberian staff member came up behind me and
=
handed me a sheet of bright yellow paper. He said to lay this yellow =
paper in the film reader so what you was looking at had a much better =
contrast. BOY THAT REALLY WORKED!!!!! He also said to make up a kit to =
keep with me of a rainbow of colors reds, blues, yellows, gray, and =
green ETC. in couple of shades. the different colors would improve the =
contrast to where you can read these films much better even with a =
magnifier, once you use the paper you still have the option of using a =
magnifier also. He also said that BRIGHT YELLOW WORKED WELL AND DARK =
BLUE WORKED VERY WELL. but to try several colors and shades to se what =
worked best for you and the film you are looking at.
Thank You Mr. Liberian
Hope this works well for you
Ron Perkes
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Terry,
Thank you for your post. I think that the explanation that you
provided in paragraph 2, was what I was looking for, a little more
detail than the original answer. I hope to go back over and "prove"
Uncle Bills's work as we did not inherit any of the census or
certificates that he may have collected and work our way back.
I appreciate the insights and controversies involved in the search of
any family. I would hope that others could benefit from these kind
of questions and answers.
Again, Thanks
Teri
> Terry & Teri Cleaveland wrote:
>
> > This may seem like a really dumb question to some of you, but I
> > really haven't paid a lot of attention to the Cleveland line until
> > lately. I understand the the "Northern" branch pretty much spawns
> > from Moses Cleveland. What about the "Southern" branch? Is there
> > another line that immigrated or are these northerns that went south?
>
> You have gotten two pretty good answers to your question. By asking
> further questions you are attempting to find someone who knows the ancestry
> of ALL Clevelands/Cleavelands. The answer to these types of questions
> perhaps can be summarized as follows:
>
> 1. Genealogy, in practice, is not an exact science! Some don't know the
> ancestor from whom they descend because they have not research enough or
> sufficient documentation does not exist to produce an ultimately provable
> answer.
>
> 2. Most Genealogists since the time of the publication of the work by E.G.
> and H. Cleveland in about 1898 divide the various lines into a Northern
> Group who mostly appears to have descended from Moses Cleaveland and the
> Southern Group who appears to have mostly descended from Alexander
> Cleveland and Millie Presley of Albemarle Co, Va. As was previously
> stated, it appears that the original immigrant for that line was Roger
> Cleveland/Dorcas. NO DOCUMENTATION has been found to link Roger with any
> family in England, so his origins can not be stated with any degree of
> certainty. The original immigrant for this, so called, Southern Line, was
> in contention for many years because of a work of fiction which was
> published in about 1642. H. and E.G Cleveland perpetrated that "myth" by
> publishing information for which they knew (or cared) little about. In
> very recent years this work of fiction has been located and most now
> believe that Roger was the original immigrant for those who descended from
> the noted Alexander/Millie Pressley and who were mostly born South of the
> Mason/Dixon line which separated the US during the Civil War.
>
> 2. To attempt to divide ALL Cleveland's by geography would be an attempt
> in "folly". Of course, there were probably those from Moses who migrated
> South and there were probably those from Roger who migrated North of the
> Mason/Dixon line in VA. To know the answer to the North/South ancestry
> means that EVERYONE would know their ancestry to an original immigrant.
> Since we still have queries on that very issue, everyone doesn't know their
> ancestry to an original immigrant.
>
> 3. There is some evidence that there were other immigrants but, most
> people today who go by the Surname (varied spellings) appear to have
> descended from one of the two. That statement can not be stated with %100
> accuracy as there are many who haven't yet traced their ancestry and there
> will probably be some who dispute that conclusion.
>
> 4. To my knowledge, there is NO ONE who has found any credible proof that
> the two lines as outlined above were connected.
>
> 5. To attempt to flatly state a date or even a time period which separated
> the two lines means that one would need to find someone highly
> knowledgeable on BOTH lines. Obviously, most are only familiar (in a
> detailed documentation sense) with their own lines of ancestry. To attempt
> that means we would begin over again the controversy created when the
> Cleveland Genealogy was published in about 1898 where someone who was
> MOSTLY interested in ONE line gives detailed information about another
> which is not WHOLLY accurate.
>
> 6. As has always been the case, one should attempt to prove their ancestry
> family by family and document that information. Perhaps, given enough time
> when every one by the Surname has proven their ancestry who might have the
> ultimate answer but, I doubt that time will ever occur.
>
> > Do we have much history of this? I'd like to hear from some of you
> > on the list about this, and I think it would be appropriate to reply
> > to the list as there may be others that don't know this.
>
> We have a history in so far as each has some evidence of proof of their
> individual ancestry to one of the two lines I've outlined.
>
> What would be even more interesting are those who contend that they don't
> descend from one of these two lines. Then a new controversy will begin and
> we will have something to research and "fret" about in the future!
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