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From: TSNI843(a)aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:39:35 EST
To: CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CLAYTON-L] Re: Missouri Claytons
Ruth
Where in Missouri where your Clayton's? I have some Missouri Clayton's.
John Fletcher Clayton. Without looking up in records, I think he was born
in
Ohio. The patriarch of the family was Henry Clayton from Ireland. The
family here seems to have started in Maryland. Henry fought in Rev. War as
part of the "Flying Camp." John Fletcher was a physician in Ohio, and then
moved to Missouri. I think he first settled in Clay County, and then the
family moved to Southwestern Missouri. First living in Wheatland, where he
was one of the charter members of the town. He seems to have kind of been
a
Jack of all Trades. He was also a physician in Missouri, was circuit
riding
Methodist Minister, and was apparently also a hotel keeper in Wheatland.
He
may have been a dentist as well as a physician. I do know that one of his
sons was a dentist. And, I have heard that one of his grandsons may have
been one of the fist pediatric dentists in the Kansas City area.
John had several sons including John Charles (Charles or Charley) -- who
was
my great grandfather. And other sons included a William (I think), Ed, Lee
Baron, and I think a daughter named Addie. His son John Charles married
Nancy Vest, and they had one daughter Arie Ann named for John Fletchers
first
wife Arie Winegardner. He was killed when my grandmother was about 15
months
old. Arie Clayton married Fred Florance when she was seventeen and Fred's
sister Lilly married Lee Baron Clayton, who was Aries' uncle.
John Fletcher Clayton married second and had a second family. Think she
was
about 17 years younger than him. In fact his youngest son Chauncy was only
10 or 12 when John F. died in 1910. By that time, the family was living in
Howard's Ridge, Missouri, which was just across the border from Mt. Home,
Arkansas. There is still a cemetery there with a number of Clayton's
buried
there. If you think there could be a connection I do have more family
information I could share with you. Right now, I can't remember his second
wife's name. But, I do have it my records and could look it up.
Nadine Florance Snider
Hello Listers,
I am searching for John Edney Clayton and his wife Sarah Lickston,
who were married in Albemarle County, Virginia on 11 September 1794 and
possibly went to Missouri in the big migration.
Dan Tapscott Kilmarnock Virginia
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Ruth
Where in Missouri where your Clayton's? I have some Missouri Clayton's.
John Fletcher Clayton. Without looking up in records, I think he was born in
Ohio. The patriarch of the family was Henry Clayton from Ireland. The
family here seems to have started in Maryland. Henry fought in Rev. War as
part of the "Flying Camp." John Fletcher was a physician in Ohio, and then
moved to Missouri. I think he first settled in Clay County, and then the
family moved to Southwestern Missouri. First living in Wheatland, where he
was one of the charter members of the town. He seems to have kind of been a
Jack of all Trades. He was also a physician in Missouri, was circuit riding
Methodist Minister, and was apparently also a hotel keeper in Wheatland. He
may have been a dentist as well as a physician. I do know that one of his
sons was a dentist. And, I have heard that one of his grandsons may have
been one of the fist pediatric dentists in the Kansas City area.
John had several sons including John Charles (Charles or Charley) -- who was
my great grandfather. And other sons included a William (I think), Ed, Lee
Baron, and I think a daughter named Addie. His son John Charles married
Nancy Vest, and they had one daughter Arie Ann named for John Fletchers first
wife Arie Winegardner. He was killed when my grandmother was about 15 months
old. Arie Clayton married Fred Florance when she was seventeen and Fred's
sister Lilly married Lee Baron Clayton, who was Aries' uncle.
John Fletcher Clayton married second and had a second family. Think she was
about 17 years younger than him. In fact his youngest son Chauncy was only
10 or 12 when John F. died in 1910. By that time, the family was living in
Howard's Ridge, Missouri, which was just across the border from Mt. Home,
Arkansas. There is still a cemetery there with a number of Clayton's buried
there. If you think there could be a connection I do have more family
information I could share with you. Right now, I can't remember his second
wife's name. But, I do have it my records and could look it up.
Nadine Florance Snider
In a message dated 10/31/02 12:40:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cheska(a)ix.netcom.com writes:
> Those who prefer to discuss their research only with
> those they presently know are close cousins can certainly
> use private email or the message boards. I will not
> allow them to dictate to other subscribers what they may
> or may not post to this discussion list. If they are
> not happy with the way the list is run, then they are
> free to leave or I will personally show them to the
> nearest exit! Enough said?
>
>
> Thanks Cheska!! For a moment I thought some in here were trying to censor
what info a fellow Clayton descendant might have to offer.........
Thanks again for keeping the flag of all-inclusive broadmindedness flying!!
Tim
Howard's Ridge, Missouri, which was just across the border from Mt. Home,
Arkansas. There is still a cemetery there with a number of Clayton's buried
there.
can you provide the name of the cemetary? is there any records on line in
regards to the clayton's buried there?
----- Original Message -----
From: <TSNI843(a)aol.com>
To: <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: [CLAYTON-L] Re: Missouri Claytons
> Ruth
>
> Where in Missouri where your Clayton's? I have some Missouri Clayton's.
> John Fletcher Clayton. Without looking up in records, I think he was born
in
> Ohio. The patriarch of the family was Henry Clayton from Ireland. The
> family here seems to have started in Maryland. Henry fought in Rev. War
as
> part of the "Flying Camp." John Fletcher was a physician in Ohio, and
then
> moved to Missouri. I think he first settled in Clay County, and then the
> family moved to Southwestern Missouri. First living in Wheatland, where
he
> was one of the charter members of the town. He seems to have kind of been
a
> Jack of all Trades. He was also a physician in Missouri, was circuit
riding
> Methodist Minister, and was apparently also a hotel keeper in Wheatland.
He
> may have been a dentist as well as a physician. I do know that one of his
> sons was a dentist. And, I have heard that one of his grandsons may have
> been one of the fist pediatric dentists in the Kansas City area.
>
> John had several sons including John Charles (Charles or Charley) -- who
was
> my great grandfather. And other sons included a William (I think), Ed,
Lee
> Baron, and I think a daughter named Addie. His son John Charles married
> Nancy Vest, and they had one daughter Arie Ann named for John Fletchers
first
> wife Arie Winegardner. He was killed when my grandmother was about 15
months
> old. Arie Clayton married Fred Florance when she was seventeen and Fred's
> sister Lilly married Lee Baron Clayton, who was Aries' uncle.
>
> John Fletcher Clayton married second and had a second family. Think she
was
> about 17 years younger than him. In fact his youngest son Chauncy was
only
> 10 or 12 when John F. died in 1910. By that time, the family was living
in
> Howard's Ridge, Missouri, which was just across the border from Mt. Home,
> Arkansas. There is still a cemetery there with a number of Clayton's
buried
> there. If you think there could be a connection I do have more family
> information I could share with you. Right now, I can't remember his
second
> wife's name. But, I do have it my records and could look it up.
>
> Nadine Florance Snider
>
>
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Just a note about sharing.......I'm sure there are others like me who feel
incredibly ignorant & awkward about our amatuer skills and am always
impressed by the skill, professionalism and initiative of others. I am
embarrassed by my silly lifelong notes I have hung on to from family get
togethers decades ago. I have failed to interest any of my family
contemporaries in my interest, my original sources have long since died and
my inquiries & interest have been dismissed & disregarded at every turn. But
I try to plug away, slowed down by my immediate family's crisis's-my husband
in a wheelchair, now with a trach, chronic money problems, my own battle
with breast cancer. I am curious, I am amazed by the connections between us!
I love history and this is packed with it. Thank you all.
estelle (Clayton) augustine-blackburn
----- Original Message -----
From: <TJmsn119(a)aol.com>
To: <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CLAYTON-L] LIST ADMIN MESSAGE: PLEASE READ
> In a message dated 10/30/02 6:08:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheska(a)ix.netcom.com writes:
>
>
> > Please do share what you have on your CLAYTON research
> > with all of us and do cite your sources!
> >
>
> OK..... I'll try. But some people on this rootsweb list seem to have
their
> own parochial Clayton interest which would preclude the original purpose
of
> this list.
> The all-encompassing sharing among all listees...
> Tim
>
> > -=CHESKA=-
> > Clayton List Manager
> > --
> > -=CHESKA=-
> >
>
>
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>
Those who prefer to discuss their research only with
those they presently know are close cousins can certainly
use private email or the message boards. I will not
allow them to dictate to other subscribers what they may
or may not post to this discussion list. If they are
not happy with the way the list is run, then they are
free to leave or I will personally show them to the
nearest exit! Enough said?
-=CHESKA=-
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In a message dated 10/30/02 6:08:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheska(a)ix.netcom.com writes:
> Please do share what you have on your CLAYTON research
> with all of us and do cite your sources!
>
OK..... I'll try. But some people on this rootsweb list seem to have their
own parochial Clayton interest which would preclude the original purpose of
this list.
The all-encompassing sharing among all listees...
Tim
> -=CHESKA=-
> Clayton List Manager
> --
> -=CHESKA=-
>
Hi Tim: When you narrow your searches down to a private one-to-one
conversation it would be helpful to the rest of us is you resorted to
individual personal addresses and not the whole rootsweb address
Fair enough.....I'll take you up on thate... But I just figured that since
were all of some Clayton descent, i didn't think that anyone would mind if I
tried to establish a link to Va. Those of you who DO have that
connection, let me know and I'll only respond to you personally and
discreetly...........
Tim
Searching Mary CLAYTON b. abt 1752 King & Queen Co?, Virginia d. abt 1791
King & Queen Co, VA, daughter of John CLAYTON & Elizabeth (WILLIS)
married abt 1770s King & Queen Co, VA John WILMORE b. abt 1748 King & Queen
Co?, VA d. abt 1779 King & Queen Co, VA,
son of Daniel WILMORE & Mary (REYNOLDS).
These are my husband's ancestors.
His direct line of ancestry from himself
Virgil Ralph BARGER going back to earlier ancestors is on our homepage.
Scroll down the homepage to
Virgil Ralph BARGER and on down the generations.
http://members.truepath.com/beverly/barger.html
Thank you for your time.
Beverly
Virgil Ralph & Beverly Jane (HIMES) BARGER
According to 20th Century Biographies of Notable Americans, Augustin Smith
Clayton was born in Fredericksburg, Virginia on 27 Nov 1783. His family
moved to Georgia in 1784 and he died in Athens, Georgia on 21 June 1839.
Best regards,
Mary Paul Smith Jespersen
In a message dated 10/29/02 11:10:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Justonna(a)aol.com writes:
> Hamilton is buried
> here in New York City at the Trinity Churchyard in downtown Manhattan,
> which
> narrowly (miraculously) escaped destruction in the attack on the World
> Trade
>
So true. I've seen his gravesite.....I think it was still covered in soot
and ash from the WTC collapse of 9/11. but Trinity Church is quite old and
steeped in history....
George Washington had a pew there...........and there's a bronze plaque in
the floor in front of the entrance commemorating where QEII stood when she
visited NYC during the Bicentennial in '76...
Tim
Mary:
You can get a pretty good overview of the Yazoo Land Fraud on the internet. I
just looked at a couple of them and apparently the scandal was on a much
broader scale than I at first realized as it encompassed most of what is now
Mississippi and Alabama, and not merely confined to the Yazoo River area.
Philip Clayton, father of Augustine, was a first cousin to Nathaniel
Pendleton, they both having the same grandfather, Samuel Clayton II.
Pendleton is a very interesting character in that he was something of a
scoundrel. He served nobly in the Revolutionary War, being captured in the
surrender of Fort Washington and being held prisoner for about three years
before being exchanged. He then served as an aide-de-camp to Gen. Nathaniel
Greene in the campaign against Cornwallis in the Carolinas, receiving the
thanks of the Continental Congress by an act to denote his meritorious
service. After the war the war he became involved in an affair with the widow
of General Greene (he later named his son Nathaniel Greene Pendleton) and was
at the center of the Yazoo scandal in that he was very active in organizing
the land companies involved while serving as a Federal judge. It is said that
his name had been submitted to President Washington as a nominee to become
the first ever Secretary of State to the US, but Alexander Hamilton objected
on the grounds that Pendleton's personal life was too tumultous.
Ironically Pendleton and Hamilton eventually became the closest of friends,
the latter encouraging Pendleton to remove to New York City and was
instrumental in getting him set up in law practice. Pendleton later served as
Hamilton's second in the duel with Aaron Burr, and made all of the
arrangements and served as a pallbearer at the funeral. Hamilton is buried
here in New York City at the Trinity Churchyard in downtown Manhattan, which
narrowly (miraculously) escaped destruction in the attack on the World Trade
Center. Pendleton's part in the duel is well documented in a recent book
titled "Duel" and other books as well; his deposition of the affair is housed
in the New York Historical Society Archives here in town.
Anyhow, I've always been curious about whether or not Philip's relationship
to Nathaniel played a part in his obtaining land in MS. It's possible he did
not, he may not have even known Pendleton. But the coincidence is
interesting.
Justin
Mary:
As it turns out I did have more information on Julia Carnes. It was in my
collection of notes. I did not include it in my file as I have not yet
verified the information. It goes like this...
Julia Carnes was the daughter of Peter Johnson Carnes, b. 1736, and Elizabeth
Wirt. Peter was the son of Richard Carnes, b. 1706, m. December 1726 to Anna
Groome, d/o Peter J. Groome and Unknown.
Elizabeth Wirt was the daughter of Jacob Wirt, Sr., b. abt. 1729,
Switzerland, d. abt. Oct. 1774, Bladensburg, Md., and Henrietta Unknown, b.
in Germany. Jacob's father was Uriah Wirt, b. abt. 1697, Switzerland, d.
April 13, 1762, Frederick Town, Md.
Again, I do not have documentation for this info and can't vouch for its
accurracy, but it might be a place to start. Maybe someone else out there has
proof on some of these people.
Justin
Hi Justin
No, I had not heard of the Pendletons or the Yazoo land scandal. It sounds
interesting. I was interested because Julia Smith Clayton and her husband
Francis Baldwin moved to Columbus, Mississippi. Francis' mother Demaris
Cummins Baldwin obtained land in the lottery but it was not, as far as I can
see, around Columbus.
Many thanks for the information. Where would I find more information on the
Yazoo land scandal?
Best regards,
Mary Paul
Hi Mary:
Here's what little I have on Julia Carnes Clayton:
b. July 2, 1787; d. June 3, 1873. She was the daughter of Peter Johnson
Carnes and Unknown.
That's it, I'm afraid. I have the same information you have about Philip
taking charge of his father's plantation in MS. I don't know where it was but
would be willing to bet that it was in the vicinity of the Yazoo River. Do
you know the story about the Yazoo Land Company Fraud? Augustin's cousin (I
believe it was a second cousin, I'd have to take the time to figure out the
connection) Judge Nathaniel Pendleton of Georgia, was a key player in that
scandal and it would stand to reason that some of his Clayton kin may have
benefited by it.
Justin Sanders,
New York City
My ggggrandfather was Augustine Smith Clayton who married Julia Carnes in
1807. Judge Clayton was a member of Congress from Georgia and his son was
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.
His daughter Julia Smith Clayton married my gggrandfather Francis G. Baldwin
in Athens, Georgia in 1841 and moved to Mississippi.
A biography of Judge Clayton's son (Phillip Clayton) says that Phillip
managed his father's plantation in Mississippi early in his career. I am
interested in knowing where this plantation was in Mississippi. I am also
interested in any information that might be available on Julia Smith
Clayton's husband and family (Francis Baldwin was the grandson of Benjamin
Baldwin who lived in Oglethorpe county Georgia).
Many thanks
Mary Paul Smith Jespersen
Denmark
<PRE>With regard to the name "Hollis" Clayton, my grandfather's chart shows 3
with the name of "Hollis" Clayton. All in area of Gloucestershire. Richard
(b 1734) and Francis (b 1739) were brothers, younger sons ( of 8 sons) of
Lawrence and Ann. Richard had a son named "John Oliff" in 1771 in
Dumbleton, and another son,named "Hollis" ( 1772-1779). Francis had a son
named "Hollis" ( 1766-1830). This Hollis also had a son named "Hollis" born
1804, married 1850, no record of death or children. This chart shows
children of the brothers of this latter Hollis (John, Allen, Charles and
George Gibson) but no further mentions of "Hollis" Nancy in California
Lisa - Cinciripini: Interesting to note in my travels William Henry Hollis
Clayton estate discussed 1879 - 1907 in
Worcester.gov.uk/home/cs-records-1891 . It was the name Hollis that struck
me,of Worcestershire, England. Maybe that could be of some help.
---Lorraine Livingston(nee Clayton)