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Betty,
I have seen much written material on this Jeremiah Clayton and Gowin
Clayton. I
had always assumed that Gowin Clayton was related to Jeremiah Clayton,
i.e., probably a
brother. I don't believe that the Commissioners' Court for the Poor
would pay some father
for the up-keep on his insane son. (One of the articles stated that
Jeremiah was adjudged
to be insane.) Other than seeing the written material as stated above in
the Spartanburg
area, I know little about this family, as it is "another one of those
Clayton families" that
I have not been able to get very much information on.
As far as I can find at the current time, is that there were two
distinct groups of
Claytons in the Spartanburg, SC area between 1785 and 1820. I have not
been able to
link them together as related, at the current time. One group of these
Claytons produced
Augustine Clayton, which can be pretty well followed thru time, as this
family migrated to
the West, eventually winding up in Illinois (some of them). My group of
Claytons, the William
Clayton, Sr. group who came out of Rowan, Surry, Stokes counties of NC,
is my family.
This family also goes back to Richmond Co., VA about 1700. Also my
particular family
settled mostly in the Pendleton/Pickens District of SC, before 1800.
Some members of
this family moved west after 1820 and wound up mostly in GA; some later
moved to MS
and a few to AL.
My gr-grandfather, John Milton Clayton, born 1 Oct 1825, always stated
that he
was born in SC. His grandchildren stated that at one time, they knew who
his father and
mother was, but, due to age, feeble-mindedness, they had forgotten their
names, and
could never recall them. The names are out there, but, finding them, or
connecting to the
correct family, has been the problem.
I wish I could help more than this, but this looks like it for awhile,
now.
Joe
FYI
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Betreff: Deaths - Leeds Intelligencer, 1781 - continued
Tuesday, June 26, 1781..... Saturday last died, aged 87, Mrs Elizabeth
WAUGH, a maiden lady, of Rothwell near this town.
The same day died, Mrs CLAYTON wife of Mr James CLAYTON of Horsforth.
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Regards,
Nancy McLaughlin (in Christchurch, NZ)
I need help from all the Clayton researchers. I know that my Thomas Clayton
was in Hickman Co. Tn in 1830, he would have been abt 45 years old then. He
was in KY in 1820 now I have checked the census for 1820 Ky and they have the
following
Thomas Clayton in Livingston Co. between the age 16-26 m. Anna Hutchins
Thomas Clayton in Logan Co. between the age 26-45
" '" Mason Co. between the age 26-45
" " Warren Co. between the age 45 and over
" " Greene Co. between the age 16-26 m. Jane
Montgomery
Does anyone know who these Clayton were? Mine was supposedly born in TN
abt 1785. Anyone know the first Claytons in TN?
Any help would be great.
Carol
I believe that the Charles Clayton and his wife, Nancy, mentioned in
your message to be my 5th great grandparents. Nancy was a daughter of
James Love. This is from a book written by my cousin, Bill Clayton of
Tyler, Texas. For more information go to
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bclayton/
Margaret McCleskey, Arlington, TX
VaGreen100(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/27/2000 8:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CLAYTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
>
> << Where did the John, John, and Samuel
> Clayton's come from? How far back are we going in America? Who came over
> here? Were we from the Virginia line? Or the Pennsylvania line? >>
>
> I don't think we came from the Pennsylvania line. That's been pretty
> well researched and we don't fit there.
>
> There is a Delaware Clayton line that folks have tried to attach us to,
> but we don't fit there. The Delaware folks were Quakers and they have pretty
> good records and have been well researched. They seem to have moved into
> eastern North Carolina and some of the South Carolina Clayton's currently
> being discussed may be part of that line.
>
> There are at least two Virginia Clayton lines before 1700. They may have
> a common ancestor or not. I've been unable to determine that. Then there is
> a third Virginia Clayton family that came after 1700, seemingly without a
> connection to the other families.
>
> Mrs. Clayton did research about 1960 which is published in Boddie's
> Historical Southern Families, Vol. 7, pg. 19 &ff. In it she traces our line
> from Samuel Clayton (b. about 1640); to his son John Clayton; to John's son
> George Clayton, to George's son George Clayton b. 1723-d.1786. I have deeds
> for Samuel, but I have nothing that ties him to John; I have material on
> John, but nothing that ties him to George, other than Mrs. Clayton's work. I
> have the Brunswick County deeds which Mrs. Clayton said proved that George
> was the father of George b 1723-1786. Other Clayton researchers have said,
> "No, this is our George". In these Brunswick County deeds, George gives land
> to his son Charles. Later Charles and his wife Nancy, along with George sell
> land which included some land owned outright by Charles. This is the
> language:
> 11 March 1767, George Clayton & Charles Clayton, Nancy Clayton of the
> Parish of Saint Andrew and County of Brunswick...sold...unto the said Drury
> Stith...one Certain tract or Parcel of Land Containing by Estimation Seven
> Hundred and Twenty three Acres be the same more or Less and Includes two
> Other Parcels or tract of land formerly conveyed by deeds of the said Charles
> Clayton the one for one Hundred and Sixty four Acres more or Less and the
> other for Two Hundred & thiry Seven Acres more or Less (a description of the
> land follows).
> I interpret this to mean that Charles (and Nancy) own outright the two
> parcels of land adjoining the rest of the land owned jointly by George
> Clayton and Charles Clayton which is now being sold as one tract.
> This is not the same parcel of land given by George Clayton to his son
> Charles Clayton the 21st day fo September 1763. That land description is
> different (the description is solely on the adjoining land owners land); it
> is for 738 acres.
> On the 28th day of June 1763, George Clayton had sold to Robert Ruffin,
> seven slaves and household goods.
> While Nancy obligating signed a dower when Charles Clayton sold land,
> there is no dower for a wife of George Clayton which might resolve some of
> these questions.
> My theory is that George Clayton (the father had died) and George Clayton
> the son was settling his estate. On the other hand our George Clayton was
> already in North Carolina.
> Well, Margie, are you more confused?
> Virginia
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Dear Virginia,
Thanks again for the help...and yes, it is hard to follow. I don't see
how that could be our line in Virginia if our George was already in North
Carolina. Doesn't add up, does it?
I am very interested in the building contractor line of work. Ephriam
Clayton was a building contractor as was John Wylie Clayton, as was his son
George Alexander Clayton, (b. March 23, 1857, d. Jan. 26, 1924), and his son
Joel Wylie Clayton, also a building contractor in Atlanta. George A. Clayton
built the first building to house the painting of the Battle of Atlanta in
the Cyclorama in Atlanta. My youngest son is in building science at Auburn
University....so, it seems that the building construction line or work has a
natural affinity with some of the men in our family.
Two books of interest that mention buildings built by Ephraim Clayton are,
A Guide to the Historic Architecture of Western North Carolina, by Catherine
Bishir, Michael Southern, and Jennifer Martin, and Cabins & Castles, the
History & Architecture of Buncombe County, North Carolina, edited by Douglas
Swaim.
In the first book it mentions the following buildings that were built by
Ephraim Clayton: St. John-in the Wilderness Episcopal Church in Flat Rock,
N.C.,the John Wesley McElroy House in Burnsville, N.C., the Ravenscroft
School in Asheville, the Calvary Episcopal Church and Rectory in Fletcher,
N.C. Another court house, the one in Dahlonega, Georgia was also built by
Ephraim Clayton and is still looking good.
Please keep me informed of any progress you make on the Clayton family
line and also on the Bryson family line. I am interested.
Margie
In a message dated 8/27/2000 8:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
CLAYTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
<< I am very interested in the occupations of the Clayton's. I know
Ephraim Clayton was a building contractor in Asheville and I would like to
find out if my John Wiley learned his trade from him. Are there records I
can search for that information?
Are you researching the Brysons too? Naturally, I'm interested in that
line as well,
>>
I've been doing some research on Ephraim Clayton and the buildings that he
constructed in western North Carolina. Several are still standing. These
include "Old Main" at Wofford College in Spartanburg, SC; the Polk County
Courthouse in Columbus, NC, and I think there's a house in Asheville.
I have not run across a list of apprentices. In the 1850 census For Buncombe
County, I think Ephraim had a bunch of relatives living with him, who were
probably working for him.
It's possible. Ephraim was born about 1804 and your John Wiley was born in
1826. I'm not sure when John Wiley went to Georgia but it appears that he
was in his middle 20's.
On the other hand, I have not been able to determine where Ephraim got his
education and training. Nor have I been able to determine where his
brothers, John and George, and Thomas got there education and they seem to
have had more than a run of a mill education.
There were a number of schools in western North Carolina but their
establishment date puts them too late for these brothers to have attended.
Right now my goal is to get the "Clayton Clique" revised. Then my next
project is the William Bryson and Sarah Jones Bryson family. I do have some
material on them. That's your family, too.
Virginia
In a message dated 8/27/2000 8:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
CLAYTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
<< Where did the John, John, and Samuel
Clayton's come from? How far back are we going in America? Who came over
here? Were we from the Virginia line? Or the Pennsylvania line? >>
I don't think we came from the Pennsylvania line. That's been pretty
well researched and we don't fit there.
There is a Delaware Clayton line that folks have tried to attach us to,
but we don't fit there. The Delaware folks were Quakers and they have pretty
good records and have been well researched. They seem to have moved into
eastern North Carolina and some of the South Carolina Clayton's currently
being discussed may be part of that line.
There are at least two Virginia Clayton lines before 1700. They may have
a common ancestor or not. I've been unable to determine that. Then there is
a third Virginia Clayton family that came after 1700, seemingly without a
connection to the other families.
Mrs. Clayton did research about 1960 which is published in Boddie's
Historical Southern Families, Vol. 7, pg. 19 &ff. In it she traces our line
from Samuel Clayton (b. about 1640); to his son John Clayton; to John's son
George Clayton, to George's son George Clayton b. 1723-d.1786. I have deeds
for Samuel, but I have nothing that ties him to John; I have material on
John, but nothing that ties him to George, other than Mrs. Clayton's work. I
have the Brunswick County deeds which Mrs. Clayton said proved that George
was the father of George b 1723-1786. Other Clayton researchers have said,
"No, this is our George". In these Brunswick County deeds, George gives land
to his son Charles. Later Charles and his wife Nancy, along with George sell
land which included some land owned outright by Charles. This is the
language:
11 March 1767, George Clayton & Charles Clayton, Nancy Clayton of the
Parish of Saint Andrew and County of Brunswick...sold...unto the said Drury
Stith...one Certain tract or Parcel of Land Containing by Estimation Seven
Hundred and Twenty three Acres be the same more or Less and Includes two
Other Parcels or tract of land formerly conveyed by deeds of the said Charles
Clayton the one for one Hundred and Sixty four Acres more or Less and the
other for Two Hundred & thiry Seven Acres more or Less (a description of the
land follows).
I interpret this to mean that Charles (and Nancy) own outright the two
parcels of land adjoining the rest of the land owned jointly by George
Clayton and Charles Clayton which is now being sold as one tract.
This is not the same parcel of land given by George Clayton to his son
Charles Clayton the 21st day fo September 1763. That land description is
different (the description is solely on the adjoining land owners land); it
is for 738 acres.
On the 28th day of June 1763, George Clayton had sold to Robert Ruffin,
seven slaves and household goods.
While Nancy obligating signed a dower when Charles Clayton sold land,
there is no dower for a wife of George Clayton which might resolve some of
these questions.
My theory is that George Clayton (the father had died) and George Clayton
the son was settling his estate. On the other hand our George Clayton was
already in North Carolina.
Well, Margie, are you more confused?
Virginia
Dear Virginia,
Yes, I am aware of all the Claytons by the name of George in our line.
It surely gets complicated to follow. Where did the John, John, and Samuel
Clayton's come from? How far back are we going in America? Who came over
here? Were we from the Virginia line? Or the Pennsylvania line?
A few years ago I was in England and I visited with a genealogist from
Lancashire. He told me that many Claytons were from that area of England and
that in the very early times people did not tend to move around as they do
now. He felt it was highly probable that my family had come from that area.
He gave me some information that I did not know how to use or tie our family
into.....I'm curious as to what you have found out.
I am always wanting to find out more about the family and understand who
they were and what their lives were like as much as possible. Any information
you can share would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Margie
PS I am very interested in the occupations of the Claytons. I know
Ephraim Clayton was a building contractor in Asheville and I would like to
find out if my John Wiley learned his trade from him. Are there records I
can search for that information?
Are you researching the Brysons too? Naturally, I'm interested in that
line as well,
In a message dated 8/26/2000 3:02:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
CLAYTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
<< Need information on my Clayton line >>
Hi Margie:
It's been a while since we've been in touch.
You know I think I've seen a mention of a will or probate for your George
Clayton, who married Elizabeth Bryson. Suggest that you contact the
Henderson County Genealogical and Historical Society; they've been working
with the Henderson County Probate Files. Although 1837 is a little early for
Henderson County records.
We also share a Bryson line--your Elizabeth was the sister of my Sarah
Myriam who was the first wife of Lambert Clayton (1816-1877)
Second, you do know that George Clayton (March 1, 1796, and died April
11, 1837) was the son of another George Clayton (1755-1814), and the grandson
of the George (1723-1786) that you mention. (Too Many George's in this story).
I have the probate packet for George Clayton (1755-1814) if you want
that. That George Clayton married Margaret Thompson. There is just a slight
suspicion that she might have been the "widow" Thompson and the daughter
mentioned in his will may have been her daughter by an earlier marriage.
I still cling to the George Clayton (1723-1786); son of George Clayton;
son of John Clayton; son of Samuel Clayton as our lines. I can prove that
those individuals lived; I just can't duplicate Mrs. Clayton's work that
appears in Historical Southern Families, Vol VII.
Virginia
See message #1330 on the Clayton GenForum.
May be some clues there.
-----Original Message-----
From: jgpark(a)juno.com <jgpark(a)juno.com>
To: CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 26 August, 2000 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CLAYTON-L] CLAYTONS SOUTH CAROLINA
>Twyla,
> I wish I had more information on this group of Claytons that lived in
>the Spartanburg,
>SC area, but, unfortunately, about all the information that I have was
>what was on the Census
>reports and some other articles in the tax logs of that time.
> I had seen you call for information on your James Clayton, but, I have
>nothing on
>him, at all.
>
>Joe
>
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Twyla,
I wish I had more information on this group of Claytons that lived in
the Spartanburg,
SC area, but, unfortunately, about all the information that I have was
what was on the Census
reports and some other articles in the tax logs of that time.
I had seen you call for information on your James Clayton, but, I have
nothing on
him, at all.
Joe
I am seeking information on George Clayton born in 1723 in King & Queen
County, Virginia. He married around 1744 in King & Queen County, Virginia to
Sarah Dodson (born ca. 1724-1728). George's will was issued in Rowan County,
North Carolina in 1786. I would like any more information on him or his
parents if anyone knows about him.
I am also looking for information on George Clayton of Buncombe County,
North Carolina born March 1, 1796, and died April 11, 1837. He is buried in
the Bryson or Brittain Cemetery. He married Elizabeth Bryson (b. Oct. 25,
1807; d. July 24, 1877), April 2, 1822. I am looking for a will or estate
settlement. Elizabeth married James Spann October 3, 1837.
And lastly, I am looking for information on my great grandfather, John
Wiley Clayton. John Wiley was born March 5, 1826, in Buncombe County, North
Carolina.
He died April 18, 1909, in Atlanta, Georgia and is buried in the Euharlee
Presbyterian Church Cemetery in Euharlee, Bartow County, Georgia. He married
Matilda Ann Cooper (b. July 2, 1830, d. Oct. 27, 1859) Feb. 21, 1850 in
Buncombe County, North Carolina. He was a carpenter and later a building
contractor. They moved to old Cass County, (later known as Bartow County),
Georgia in 1850. I would like to know anything more about his life and what
he did in Northwest Georgia. I'm also interested in why they left Buncombe
County and what he did there before moving to Georgia.
I would be pleased to share information with anyone researching this
group of Clayton's.
Margie Clayton Klein
MKlein9182(a)aol.com
Do you know what area he was from?
Dolly
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To: <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:37 PM
Subject: [CLAYTON-L] Tylee
> Looking for info about Tylee (Tyler) CLAYTON b 7 Nov 1789, d 29 Jul
> 1856(1836?). Am particularly interested in his relationship to Zephanioah
> CLAYTON b 29 Sep 1787, d?
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Looking for info about Tylee (Tyler) CLAYTON b 7 Nov 1789, d 29 Jul
1856(1836?). Am particularly interested in his relationship to Zephanioah
CLAYTON b 29 Sep 1787, d?
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I think I have William Austin info in TN.. I'll double check what I just
received from Polk County.
Dolly
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From: "Twyla Woodring" <tagwoodring(a)door.net>
To: <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CLAYTON-L] CLAYTONS SOUTH CAROLINA
> This is a copy of the message that I sent privately to
> Richard. So, Joe, maybe we can put our heads together and latch on to the
> ancestors of these Claytons.
>
> Richard,
>
> Your posting is intriguing. My gggrandfather was James G.W. Clayton. He
came
> to Texas in about 1835 and received a land grant from the Mexican
> government. It is believed that he came from South Carolina, and is said
to
> have been a shoemaker. He married Elizabeth in Tennessee. His children
were
> Mary, Joseph William and William Austin. We have not been able to connect
> James G.W. to anyone. I have other info, but it is only associated with
> Texas. I guestimate James G.W. to have been born circa 1790
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jgpark(a)juno.com>
> To: <CLAYTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [CLAYTON-L] CLAYTONS SOUTH CAROLINA
>
>
> > Richard,
> > I have been trying to look at all the Claytons in the area of
> > Spartanburg, SC, for
> > some time now, but have gotten very little information. There is a
> > possibility that this
> > William Clayton and Elizabeth Clayton are my g-g-g-grandparents, as I
> > know that he and
> > his wife had land dealings in that area at about the time-frame you
> > mention. William and
> > family later moved to Pickens District. It is hard to be sure, as there
> > were two William
> > Claytons living in that area at that time.
> > I will share other data with you, if you would like to share.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
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In the mid-1800's, living in a poor house as a pauper, is one John
Clayton, who is about
70 years of age at that Census. He was born in Ireland. Living in the
same poor house, is a
woman named Elizabeth Clayton, age 55, who is also a pauper. She was
born in Virginia. If
my memory serves me about half correctly, they were both living in
Bennettsville, SC, when this
Census was done. This is the only John and Elizabeth that I could get
together, and I know
nothing else about this couple, if indeed they were a couple. I have
never been able to put them
with children.
I would like to know more about the "other" William Clayton and family
that lived in the
vicinity of Spartanburg, SC, in the very early 1800's. At one time, he
owned much land in that
area, but, by the time that he died, he must have distributed it all out.
He left no Will.
Joe
I need some help from the CLAYTONs. I would like to tie in with the
CLAYTONs, and it is only a wild guess that I have. Assuming a grandmother
passed along the family name, I believe I am only one generation away, but I
can't seem to locate that.
1. Wm DEVLING m Mary Ann WILLIAMSON
b. Dec. 21, 1789 b. April 23, 1797
d. April 11, 1873 d. April 22, 1874
2. Selina DEVLING m George Jarvis ELDRED
b. Aug. 1825 b. Feb. 27, 1818
d. Oct. 23, 1852 d. Feb. 15, 1893
3. Robert CLAYTON ELDRED m Annie Ellen WELSH
b. Dec. 28, 1849 b. 1845
d. July 15, 1904 d. April 5, 1902
4. Laroy CLAYTON ELDRED
b. July 23, 1879
d. April 19, 953
Richard,
I have been trying to look at all the Claytons in the area of
Spartanburg, SC, for
some time now, but have gotten very little information. There is a
possibility that this
William Clayton and Elizabeth Clayton are my g-g-g-grandparents, as I
know that he and
his wife had land dealings in that area at about the time-frame you
mention. William and
family later moved to Pickens District. It is hard to be sure, as there
were two William
Claytons living in that area at that time.
I will share other data with you, if you would like to share.
Joe
Hi
i have been trying to find the ancestors of James Clayton who lived in
southern Spartanburg County, South Carolina. James Clayton was born in 1766
and married Mary Farrow in 1788. There was some land deeded to him from a
William Clayton and wife Elizabeth Clayton in the year 1788 the year he was
married and the deed is witnessed by Thomas Farrow, Moses Clayton and Francis
Clayton.
(another deed by this same William Clayton uses Edmond Clayton as a witness)
If you have any information on any of these people or know of someone who has
any information, please let me know
thanks
richard lauducci
Nadine, I do know of Chancey, he is my grandfathers brother, I just
recently talked to one of his daughters. What info are you looking for on
him?
Kathy (Clayton)
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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:39 PM
Subject: [CLAYTON-L] Re: CLAYTON-D Digest V00 #93
> Does anyone know the name of Chancey Clayton? I know that he would have
been
> the youngest child of John Fletcher Clayton. John Charles Clayton was I
> think the oldest son. There were two wife's. Chauncy's mother was about
30
> some odd years younger than John Fletcher. The family lived in Missouri.
> Chauncey is buried at Howard's Ridge.
>
> Nadine
>
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