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Pat, re name Carlos:
Yes, I spent a considerable amount of time trying to
work out where the name came from. My family's oral
tradition is that it was the name of a friend of the
family, so I assumed someone with the first name of
Carlos.
When I was sifting through records for Henrico Co,
Lunenberg Co, etc, I came across Carlos as a surname -
specifically Archeaos ( sp?) Carlos. This dated from
early 1700's in various chancery records. Then I
spotted a family name a little later of Carloss, from
the Carolinas. So maybe my ggggrandfather was named
after a member of that family, who perhaps added an s
to the end at some point. I will never know for sure.
I would like to spend more time on records in
Lunenberg Co, which might clear this up.
Jackie
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Jacquie,
Was Caroline the first or second wife of Carlos G. Clay, born circa
1810/11? It looks like there was 19 years difference in their ages from what I
have been able to ascertain. Is this correct? Was Levi the name of Carlos'
father? Who was the father of Levi? Thanks,
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Ah Hah! I was wondering who Carlos belonged to! Do you know where the name
Carlos came from? Not a common name in those parts!
I understand about Collis! We have a cousin in Norfolk who kept talking
about Elleck, her brother. She had no brother by that name in my records.
So, we went to meet Elleck for lunch. Turns out he was Alexander! Or, Alec!
Pat
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Of Jaquelin Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:02 PM
To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CLAY] CLAY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 30
Reply re Clement Comer Clay and name changes:
Pat,
Name changes do happen, but the following ancestors
did not change their names-
Carlos Green Clay, born 1810, Lunenberg Co, Va;
Carlos Green Clay, born 1868, Wilson Co, Tn;
Carlos Green Clay, born abt 1904, Wilson Co, Tn; and
Carlos Green Clay, born 1957, Redlands, Ca. The
second of these I know went by Green, as a nickname.
On my grandparents marriage certificate, Carlos is
spelled "phonetically" ( think southern accent here)
as Collis.
Jackie
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In a message dated 6/26/2007 5:48:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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CLAY-request(a)rootsweb.com
One more list where people are fighting and can't get along. Sigh.
I'm outa here.
Brenda Kent.
I sincerely apologize to everyone for the previous mail that came through on
this list. I was responding to an email sent to me by Gynger and hit reply.
For some reason the reply went to the list. That was meant for Gynger and I'm
sorry, truely sorry to drag everyone down this road again. Please disregard
my previous email. Robin
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Gynger, I'm sorry you feel this way. No, I am not using your material, yes,
I have used material found on the internet. Unless Copyrighted all info on
the internet is used by everyone. How do you know I didn't find what you call
"your information" from someone else. I just remember your name, that is why I
know we shared emails. I also remember telling you I was working on a book.
Whether we acutally swaped or shared info I couldn't say. May I suggest if
you are so paranoid about your work that you put a copyright on it. Everything
put on the internet is going to be used by others. My book plainly states
that I have compiled all the material I have come across in one book. Also,
states that the material should be researched further by anyone using the book.
If you want to return the book to me, I will gladly give you a refund. As to
my saying we had been in contact previously it was to remind you of the many
many different people you have contacted over the years. I'm just sorry that you
felt you had to trash me publicly and not come to me personally. I think
it's time you took the responsibility upon your own shoulders and either
copyright your material or expect to see it all over the place. I know much of my
work is out there but I put it there to be used by others, that's why I didn't
copyright my book or anything in it, that material is to be used by others in
their search. That's what we're all working for in the long run, to help each
other find their ancestors. Your attitude does not represent the position you
hold with the CFS very well and I'm not sure I want to be a part of an
association that condons your actions.
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well if was 10 years ago, good, most of that info was incomplete but I never gave you permission to use any of it for profit, and you are using some pretty modern renditions of my work that I had no idea of 10 years ago. I have copies of a lot of my old emails, and have not found any that I gave permission to use my work, I wouldn't have done that. So what you are saying is you are using my stuff but not giving me credit for it, shame on you. gynger
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Subject: [CLAY] My Book
Gynger, You obviously don't remember that you and I wrote emails and shared
nfo about 10 years ago. At that time I told you I was working on a book and
ou wanted me to let you know when I completed it. Many years
go................... Robin
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Reply re Clement Comer Clay and name changes:
Pat,
Name changes do happen, but the following ancestors
did not change their names-
Carlos Green Clay, born 1810, Lunenberg Co, Va;
Carlos Green Clay, born 1868, Wilson Co, Tn;
Carlos Green Clay, born abt 1904, Wilson Co, Tn; and
Carlos Green Clay, born 1957, Redlands, Ca. The
second of these I know went by Green, as a nickname.
On my grandparents marriage certificate, Carlos is
spelled "phonetically" ( think southern accent here)
as Collis.
Jackie
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Gynger
Could you please give me a "sense" of this book? Outside of the lack of attribution and documentation, does she pretty well have it "right?" Or, is it just a hard to read, pile of garbage?
Cousin Pat Dunford
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Subject: Re: [CLAY] My Book
well if was 10 years ago, good, most of that info was incomplete but I never gave you permission to use any of it for profit, and you are using some pretty modern renditions of my work that I had no idea of 10 years ago. I have copies of a lot of my old emails, and have not found any that I gave permission to use my work, I wouldn't have done that. So what you are saying is you are using my stuff but not giving me credit for it, shame on you. gynger
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Subject: [CLAY] My Book
Gynger, You obviously don't remember that you and I wrote emails and shared
nfo about 10 years ago. At that time I told you I was working on a book and
ou wanted me to let you know when I completed it. Many years
go................... Robin
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Does anyone know of a sourse of online wills?
I am looking for Bartley Clay's will son of Mitchel Clay Jr. & Judith Clay.
He died after 1870 in Kentucky I believe. A film number, an index, any
info would be appreciated.
I am trying to locate Bartley's son James H. Clay b. 1829 and married to
Susan Buskirk.
Thank you,
Penny Holling
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Regarding message 3 in Vol 2, issue 29:
I responded recently to another researcher of Clays in
Tennessee, so this repeats some of my earlier advice-
check first the census records. Ideally try to
determine which county in Tn your first known relative
lived in. Census records are on RootsWeb and
elsewhere. If you can determine the County, many
operate their own lists, where you can post a query.
You may get a response there. I would also look for
the Comer name, as that is likely to be significant.
Unfortunately, your ancestor is not one I have run
across, as my searches were focussed on Wilson County.
Its a slow process, so best of luck.
Jaquelin Clay Fisher
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Hi:
I'm trying to get past a block in tracing back my Clay ancestors. My
GGgrandfather, Clement Comer Clay was born in TN however his father
was from VA and I don't know his name. As near as I can tell, he was
born in 1862.
He married Mollie (Mary) Kates around 1889 but I'm not totally sure
of that date.
At least in 1890, the family was living in South Pittsburg, TN where
my Ggrandmother Annie Mae Clay was born.
The family seemed to have relocated around 1900. They are listed in
the census for S. Pittsburg but the information came from neighbors
and has little detail other than a list of the names.
The family relocated to the Birmingham, AL area in Jefferson County
where GGgrandfather Clay died in 1920 shortly after the census for that year.
He had a number of children, at least 2 of which died between 1900 and 1910.
I remember meeting two of his children, Walter Clay and Thelma Clay Brown.
If anyone can give me some direction on how to trace back Clement
Comer Clay, I'd appreciate it. I can't find any relatives that know
anything about them and perhaps, some of those relatives read this board.
Thanks,
Robert
Thanks for your response. I just wanted to help others by sharing and
providing in one book the information I had collected over 20 years of research.
Enough on that. Do you know who and where your Martha Jane Clay is? Robin
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Hi Jacquie,
This is indeed the list for the Clay surname. The Clay County KY is another
List.
Charles
In a message dated 6/22/2007 7:29:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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Charles,
Would you please clarify if this is the list for Clay County, KY or the
Clay surname? I thought I was signed up on the Clay County list, not the
surname list. If I'm on the wrong list, please let me know so I can be on
the county list. I don't have any connections to the Clay surname, and
don't need to be on that list.
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Gynger, You obviously don't remember that you and I wrote emails and shared
info about 10 years ago. At that time I told you I was working on a book and
you wanted me to let you know when I completed it. Many years
ago................... Robin
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First and foremost, I want to say that I am upset that whoever had a problem
with my book didn't come to me privately. Since I have been slurred on this
site I feel I have the right to defend myself on this site. Please note below
the note that is found in the very begining of my book. The title of my book
is Some Descendants of John Clay (Emigrant to Jamestown 1613)
Through his son Charles Clay ca1638 - 1686 and his wife Hannah Wilson
A research tool compiled by Robin Clay Oliver
* Note that it states a research tool, compiled by Robin Clay Oliver, not
written by Robin Clay Oliver.
As for Genealogy of the Clays, yes I have included her book because it is a
wonderful research tool and there are many researchers who can not find a copy
of this book. I've also seen Clifford Clay's Chart, but did not include most
of it since it has been proven to be in great error. So far as info on the Clay
Family Society, that info is available all over the internet. Check it out!
Some of it was mine about 15 years ago. In our new world of modern
electronics, the computer and internet are considered a reseach tool. Some items I did
take directly from the internet and quoted the page address in these cases.
You have to remember I have been researching this family for 20 years and have
visited many libraries, made many trips to Kentucky and Virginia and have
emassed huge amounts of info. I use a computer program to keep the majority of
research and the format of the book was established by this program which many
others mimic. Most of all our works look alike and sound alike (when we share
on the internet) since there are only so many ways you can say something. I
have seen much of my own work on the internet. I have asked, and received
permission from Many Many researches to use their research. All I wanted to do
was share my research with others so that they many have a chance of finding
their ancestors. I had to crawl through lots of stuff that lead me in the
wrong direction to get to where I am but I am grateful for any and all
information others share and all information available in books and microfilm.
I'm sorry if some were disappointed with the book. You should have contacted
me with your problem. I'm not a unreasonable person.
Robin Clay Oliver
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Author’s Note
In my research I have found two sources of genealogical material that have
proven to be invaluable to me. Although there are more than likely mistakes in
both works, as well as in this work, I have done my best to combine all
records and information that I have found on the Clays of North America into one
book that may be used by researchers to speed their quest for "lost ancestors".
I am in no way stating that what you find here is pure fact. I would suggest
that you use this work as a starting point and continue your own research from
that point.
A great majority of the details in this book were taken from two
extraordinary genealogical works and I owe their authors a debt of gratitude for their
excellent research.
THE GENALOGY OF THE CLAY, by Mary Rogers Clay. Filson Club Publications
No.14, Louisville Kentucky, 1899.
CLAY TENTATIVE LINEAGE WITH SUGGESTED IDENTIFICATION NUMBERING, compiled by
Ruth Clay Burrell, Peggy Carswell Peacock, Shirley Landon Wilcox. Dated
September 22, 1983. Revised by Thomas L. Clay, 1990. This work has been assembled
from various sources, but is largely from records found in THE CLAY FAMILY
ASSOCIATION QUARTERLIES, edited and published by George R. Clay of Houston,
Texas from 1966 through 1973 and again in 1975.
I also owe much to the many cousins (too numerous to mention),who have
shared their family lines with me and without whom this work would have been
impossible. I thank you all.
I must mention that I have kept all this information on a computer program,
Brother’s Keeper 6.1, Copyrighted by John Steed in 2004. He offers this
program as a shareware program at _www.bkwin.com_ (http://www.bkwin.com) .
I have attempted to quote the source whenever possible and you will find
them listed throughout the book. If I have not listed a source please forgive
me. I have been researching this surname for nearly 20 years and some sources
have been forgotten or lost Please, use this book with caution and verify what
you find here.
HAPPY HUNTING!
DISCLAIMER:
Robin Clay Oliver may not be held liable for incorrect or misleading
information found in this book nor for any consequences resulting from the use of any
information found in this book.
It is the responsibility of the user of this book to verify information
against primary source documents before accepting as actual fact. The material
contained in this book was obtained in a cooperative effort, and contains the
merging of many contributors' data which often results in conflicting information.
The law of averages dictates that there will be errors and omissions.
I have made every effort to protect the privacy of living persons by
attempting to eliminate the latest generations (primarily those born after 1930).
Again, the law of averages dictate that, given the sheer bulk of information
contained in this book, I may have missed some individuals.
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All Members,
The past week or so we have seen a lengthy discussion about a "book" that
has been offered for sale on the list. That is a no-no! Then, the discussion
turned to material used to compile the book and on into copyright complaints. We
have all had our work taken and placed in someone elses tree, It happens
every day to all of us. Most of the information taken from us is in the public
domain, however, some of the information is only known to us and not available
to everyone except when we put it on the web. We try to attribute that info
to
the originator as best we can but that doesn't always happen.
That being said, I feel the discussion has went on too long and must stop.
The List is for those of us who are
researching the Clay surname. If something is to be discussed off-topic the
word CONVERSATION is to be
used in the subject line. One other thing, for those of you who have changed
their e-mail address please be sure to unsubscribe the old address. Nuf said!
Sincerely,
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Reply to message 1.
I spent some time researching Tennessee Clays. As far
as I know there are two main branches that went to
Tennessee. Your Henry is not from my branch - Wilson
County - but could be from the other branch, or may
even be from another one I don't know about.
The census data for Tenn is on line - I went via
Rootsweb. I suggest that you try that. Census were
every ten years, so bracket the birth dates you know
about. Also census data is by County - I have no idea
where Turtle Town is! - You could try the Christie
name as well.
As the Tennesee Clays are not well-documented and I
know no other researcher who has traced them, it will
take a bit of digging on your part, but the answers
are there.
Best of luck
Jaquelin Clay Fisher
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Henry Clay and Susie Christie
> (MLarsen2(a)aol.com)
> 2. Re: Greetings..newbie here.
> (oxqzeme688(a)aol.com)
> 3. Re: Henry Clay and Susie Christie
> (oxqzeme688(a)aol.com)
> 4. Copyrighting Material (Ed Elam)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:45:31 EDT
> From: MLarsen2(a)aol.com
> Subject: [CLAY] Henry Clay and Susie Christie
> To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <bdc.14902372.33ab869b(a)aol.com>
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> Does anyone have information on this family?
> Henry was from Turtle Town Tennessee and died ca
> 1865.
> Susie b. 1830 and d. 6/27/1901.
> Children were:
> Riley Clay b. ca 1855 d. 2/10/1935
> Robert Alex Clay b. 10/18/1858 Indian Territory, d.
> 12/22/1901 Welling,
> Oklahoma
> Annie Clay b. 9/3/1861 d. 9/16/1945
> Sally Clay
> James Clay b. ca 1866 d. 1936
> This family is on the Cherokee Rolls. Henry and
> Susie were my GG
> grandparents. Their son, Robert Alex, was my
> GGrandfather, Robert married Sarah
> Whittington b.2/13/1878 IT July Springs. Sarah died
> 7/15/1968. Robert and Sarah
> had a son Henry Clay, my grandfather. Sarah second
> married EE Leach.
> I'd love to hear from anyone connected to this
> family.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:16:52 -0400
> From: oxqzeme688(a)aol.com
> Subject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
> To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> Message-ID:
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>
> Troy, thank you, this is a problem that will always
> go on, but for heaven sakes make sure your sites say
> this is copy written, that makes it illegal to be
> used in any context without your permission, I have
> not had time to go through the entire book, I am
> doing so very slowly so I can scan the copied parts
> and attach to the legal selection?of mine and other
> sources. And if there is a volume 2 I can almost
> visualize exactly what the content will be and where
> it will pick up from. It does not take much thought
> , having most of the published material that is
> being used in hand?to compare with out?web site
> material included. After I make my notations in the
> book maybe I'll copy it and give copies to all the
> University and College libraries and City Libraries
> that I can to help with instructions on how to
> compile a proper genealogy, and how not to.
> Document, document, document, (for you Karen) and
> then document some more. Gynger
>
> PS always many thanks to you Karen K, you know who
> you are
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Clay <troyclay(a)aol.com>
> To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 6:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
>
>
>
> Gynger, I applaud you for saying something that
> needs to be said. This
> ampant copying of data and then presenting it as if
> it is your own research
> s shameful. If I see data published on the web
> without sources I assume it
> o be copied from a web site and highly suspicious. I
> very much doubt the
> ccuracy of data that is presented without sources.
> Even if one publishes
> ata on the web without sources, that person should
> credit the website from
> hich he copied it. It isn't quite fair to provide
> someone with data you
> pent many hours of research collecting and they send
> you some data they
> opied from the web that can be found on hundreds of
> sites.
> And then there are those folks who want to exchange
> data... You send them
> hat they ask for and you never again hear from
> them!!!!!
> Just a little rant,
> -- Troy Clay
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> rom: clay-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> mailto:clay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
> oxqzeme688(a)aol.com
> ent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:02 PM
> o: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> ubject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
> Being the only researcher on my line since the
> 1920's and being
> he only one that has put anything on the web or
> shared
> nything that is on the web, with only a couple of
> people,
> eeping in mind that copy right laws are in effect, a
> lot of my
> ork is in the book, even word for word, including
> information
> ut on the Clay Family Society Web site written on
> different
> ranches of the family are in her book, word for
> word, everyone
> heck your websites, She has copied all information
> from Mary
> Ogers Clay, with no corrections, it appears that the
> research
> as been done web surfing and copying with out
> permission, I
> now I have not given permission, my sister has not
> given
> ermission, the Clay Family Society has not given
> permission,
> he Davies family has not given permission, and I
> assume on and
> n. This is illegal. Would you want your life
> research taken
> ithout permission for someone else to profit? If
> anyone on
> his list has a web site I will be glad to look up
> and see what has!
> been taken from yours and let you know. This book
> is a copy
> f lots of people's work, right or wrong, no matter,
> not much
> esearch here, lots and lots of copy, copy, copy.
> Some of the
> nfo on my line is kind of signature, I can tell
> where it came
> rom by the content. Gynger Cook
>
> ----Original Message-----
> rom: Roliver414(a)aol.com
> o: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> ent: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 9:19 pm
> ubject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
>
> Most of this came from long ago, but I do know that
> I received
> lot of my info from other researcher. I've also
> use Mary
> ogers Clay's, Genealogy of the Clays and A numbering
> system
> ut together for the Clay Quarterlies. New River
> Settlements,
> nd many other sources. Robin Oliver
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Troy,
It's okay to rant.... I agree with your and Gynger's
sentiments. Its unfortunate that anyone takes the
Mary Rogers Clay book at face value. It is full of so
many inaccuracies. She was one of the first wave of
geneological researchers, and part of the agenda at
that time was trying to prove that your family was
old, English and preferably aristocratic. By doing
that, you would sell more copies.
As a result, she confabulated an awful lot. But of
course, mixed into that are some facts or truths. I
have not seen the "book" you refer to, but at the very
least it is plagiarism to copy others work and not
attribute it. It is also disrespectful to the
authors.
In tracing my Clay line I recieved a great deal of
help from on-line researchers - you know who you are -
whose dedication and enthusiasm for thorough research
I hugely admire. I would have never published any of
this, on-line or elsewhere- without acknowledgement.
I tried to give something back by providing the
information on my line, which was at the time, new, to
the main Clay group, for inclusion in the digital
family tree and the "book" which I believe Karen has
put together. Unfortunately, the generosity of the
main researchers has been taken advantage of, which
means that they are not so likely to help others,
particularly on-line.
Researching your family tree is not something that you
can dabble in on-line. The internet has helped a lot,
but it is still necessary to go to the library, write
letters and talk to any living relatives. This is how
I did it, and I found the result enormously
satisfying.
Jaquelin Clay Fisher
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> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:21:27 -0400
> From: "Troy Clay" <troyclay(a)aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
> To: <clay(a)rootsweb.com>
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> Gynger, I applaud you for saying something that
> needs to be said. This
> rampant copying of data and then presenting it as if
> it is your own research
> is shameful. If I see data published on the web
> without sources I assume it
> to be copied from a web site and highly suspicious.
> I very much doubt the
> accuracy of data that is presented without sources.
> Even if one publishes
> data on the web without sources, that person should
> credit the website from
> which he copied it. It isn't quite fair to provide
> someone with data you
> spent many hours of research collecting and they
> send you some data they
> copied from the web that can be found on hundreds of
> sites.
>
> And then there are those folks who want to exchange
> data... You send them
> what they ask for and you never again hear from
> them!!!!!
>
> Just a little rant,
> -- Troy Clay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clay-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> [mailto:clay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
> oxqzeme688(a)aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:02 PM
> To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
>
> Being the only researcher on my line since the
> 1920's and being
> the only one that has put anything on the web or
> shared
> anything that is on the web, with only a couple of
> people,
> keeping in mind that copy right laws are in effect,
> a lot of my
> work is in the book, even word for word, including
> information
> put on the Clay Family Society Web site written on
> different
> branches of the family are in her book, word for
> word, everyone
> check your websites, She has copied all information
> from Mary
> ROgers Clay, with no corrections, it appears that
> the research
> has been done web surfing and copying with out
> permission, I
> know I have not given permission, my sister has not
> given
> permission, the Clay Family Society has not given
> permission,
> the Davies family has not given permission, and I
> assume on and
> on. This is illegal. Would you want your life
> research taken
> without permission for someone else to profit? If
> anyone on
> this list has a web site I will be glad to look up
> and see what has!
> been taken from yours and let you know. This book
> is a copy
> of lots of people's work, right or wrong, no matter,
> not much
> research here, lots and lots of copy, copy, copy.
> Some of the
> info on my line is kind of signature, I can tell
> where it came
> from by the content. Gynger Cook
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roliver414(a)aol.com
> To: clay(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 9:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [CLAY] Greetings..newbie here.
>
>
>
> Most of this came from long ago, but I do know that
> I received
> a lot of my info from other researcher. I've also
> use Mary
> Rogers Clay's, Genealogy of the Clays and A
> numbering system
> put together for the Clay Quarterlies. New River
> Settlements,
> and many other sources. Robin Oliver
>
>
>
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