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Ken,
Try Missouri Historical Society at 1020 Lowry, Columbia, MO 65211.
They have most Missouri newspapers and can tell you what newspapers in
the area. If you can narrow it down, I could get you copies for 25
cents plus postage or they can do it for 50 cents.
They have a web site at
http://www.system.missouri.edu:80/shs/
Dwayne Crandall
listmanager CLARY-L
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
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Subject: Virgil or Anna Clary
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 8/1/97 8:11 PM
Would appreciate any help in finding any info on grandparents,They lived
about 2
miles outside of Campbell Missouri circa 1910 to 1935. Any help on past
newspapers
in the area as she was a drowning victim around 1932. any help would be
appreciated.
Ken Clary @ clary(a)zapcom.net
Diane and others interested
FYI
Use caution when attempting to locate a coat of arms for a particular surname.
Most of us simply don't have one. There are some good resources to use when
investigating heraldry.
Four books are:
The general armory of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales by Sir Bernard Burke
(1814-1892) pub. in 1884
Encylopaedia of heraldry... by John Burke (1787-1848) pub. 1884
Crozier's general armory... by William Armstrong Crozier (1864-1913) pub. 1904
General armory two... by Cecil R. Humphery-Smith pub. 1973
These are reference books and can be found in larger libraries (although you may
not be able to check them out). I'll check here for the Cohen/Cowan/Cowen, etc.
and my lists (Clary/Crain/Crandall)
Dwayne Crandall
listmanger CLARY-L, CRAIN-L, CRANDALL-L
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Subject: Query: Cowen/Cowan Coat of Arms
Author: COWAN-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 4/16/98 8:59 PM
Hello out there.
Would anyone have a copy of the Coat of Arms for the Cowen family. I have
been looking for one for quite a while with no luck. If you do can someone
email it to me or if possible snail mail as I will provide you with my
address if you reply to me.
Thank you very much and I hope someone can help me.
Diane Peacock
depeacock(a)cancom.net
Everyone is welcome to their opinion.
Dwayne
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Subject: Re: Fw: Veterans Benefits new law
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 4/8/98 2:50 PM
-- Your message was: (from "crandald(a)ext.missouri.edu")
> Always before I have refrained from forwarding items I believed
> non-genealogical in nature. Please forgive me for breaking this rule;
> however, I believe the following should be given as much dissemination
> as possible.
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==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Have CLARY information - willing to share:
Dwayne Crandall crandald(a)ext.missouri.edu
I too would like to know any reprint or where, if anywhere, it might
be available via ILL.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
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Subject: Rowland Book on the Clarys
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 4/15/98 12:16 PM
Count me in for a copy of the Rowland book if a reprint is done. I did talk to
the Rowlands' son (a very gracious gentleman), who said that a reprint was done
a few years ago and the family was not contemplating doing another, as the cost
was prohibitive for anything less than 100 copies. I asked if we could get an
advance subscription if they would consider reprinting, and he said that he
would have to talk to his brothers and sisters about it, that he was not the
only decision maker.
I got an e-mail newsletter from a bookstore in Atlanta a few days ago - which I
unfortunately deleted - which talked about a new technology to be available in a
few weeks for out-of-print books which would essentially print and bind a book
for each individual order. No details about cost, etc., and I'm assuming could
only be done for books in the public domain, but seems to me could have some
possibilities for out-of-print genealogy books, if permission could be obtained
to employ this technology.
I'll write for more information on that.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them. This is an invaluable book
which should be preserved.
Linda Gipson
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
For CLARY information visit:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
Dayna,
What did you have in mind?
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
(includes Cleary, Clare, O'Clary, O'Cleary, etc.)
dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
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Subject: Attention Clary Listowner
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 4/3/98 9:22 PM
Would the listowner please email me? I have a question about acceptable
spelling variations for posting to this list.
Thank you,
Dayna Cohen McMullen
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Need help or have suggestions for improvement:
contact - Dwayne Crandall at dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
Always before I have refrained from forwarding items I believed
non-genealogical in nature. Please forgive me for breaking this rule;
however, I believe the following should be given as much dissemination
as possible.
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>
>
>
> [The] President has sign into law a bill that
affects all veterans. The kicker to this is that
the V.A. can not put out any information on this
law. It has to be done by word of moth or letters
from one veteran to another. I checked this all
out and it is true.
> If you have not registered at a V.A. Hospital since Oct 1, 1996 and if you do
not registered with them before Oct.1, 1998 you will lose all medical benefits
for life.
To register you need DD-214 form.
I called my county V.A. section and they are
mailing the forms to me. Check either with the
county V.A. section or with the V.A. Hospital
near you. You can also call any V.A. Office for
help on this.
Please pass this alone , Thanks
Dwayne's addition follows:
>> I called my local VA Hospital and forms are being mailed to me.
Dwayne Crandall
Someone wrote:
>>I haven't received any messages from the Clary list for a couple of
weeks now.
>>Has something happened to it?
We're still here.
My brother underwent a heart transplant last Thursday, so I've been
somewhat busy. Prior to the transplant, he was the first in Missouri
to receive a HeartMate machine.
Now, about the rest of you... }:>)
Dwayne
listmogul CLARY-L
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
Thanks Marilyn for the files. Does this book also have CLARY?
Is it copywrited? I ask because, it might be a good thing to put on
my web page, but I'd want to get permission first.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
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Subject: Cleary History
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 1/15/98 3:29 PM
Dear Cleary cousins,
I scanned several pages and sent them out, along with a little more
information, to all of those whose E-Mail addresses I had. If you want
this history and do not get it, please send me your complete address so
that I can get it out to you.
Marilynn
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Do you have a web site with CLARY info?
Like to link it to mine?
See http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
or send message to dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
Dear list subscribers,
My very reliable e-mail program conked out for at least 6 hours today,
the 27th of January. If by some chance, YOU GET A BOUNCED MESSAGE YOU
SENT TO ME, please resubmit it.
Thanks
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul
dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
Vera in her message below asks about the Origin of CLARY name-
Good question. I have seen references to O'CLARY, O'CLARE, O'CLARY and similar
spellings with the "Mc" prefix. This could indicate Scotch-Irish origins. I've
also seen CLEARY and variations.
I'm sending this to the CLARY-L subscribers, perhaps, someone out there can
further enlighten us, as my direct line can only be traced back (for now) to
1789 in Ohio (territory, no doubt).
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
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Subject: Clary
Author: MMaitl1022 <MMaitl1022(a)aol.com> at internet-ext
Date: 1/7/98 2:10 PM
I am looking for the origin of the Clary name, particularly those is Brunswick
County, Virginia. If you have any information about this, please email me at
MMAITL1022 @ AOL.COM.
Thanks in advance.
vera
Hi Marilynn,
I'd be interested in the CLARY-CLEARY material.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity
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Subject: Re-Clary Origin
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 1/7/98 5:49 PM
There is a lot written about the Clary-Cleary Clan, also O'Cleirigh etc.
They were originally clerks, or those who did the writing for various
manuscripts. I have a lot of material on it if anyone wants it. My family
came to this country as "Clark" from Co. Mayo but the family always said
the name was originally O'Cleirigh and, as you know, "clerk" is pronounced
"Clark" by the British.
Marilynn
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Do you have a web site with CLARY info?
Like to link it to mine?
See http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
or send message to dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
I assume you have access to the CLARY Genealogy - Four Early American Lines and Related Families by Ralph Shearer Rowland & Star Wilson Rowland?
Vachel is listed in Chapter II, Clary of Maryland p. 12. One of Vachel and Rachel's son is listed as David Clary b. 1795 in KY. Some have suggested to me this is my elusive David b. 1789/90 in Ohio. I have my doubts, though, for the following reasons:
The above book indicates that particular David was residing in Adams Co., Ohio in 1820. I believe my David was in Daviess Co., Indiana at that time along with his sons Isaac O. (interesting as to what this stood for, if anything) and Hiram Thomas.
By 1850, my group has migrated through Crawford Co., IL to reside in Clinton Co., IL before heading to Kansas.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
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Subject: vachel clary
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 1/15/98 5:01 PM
My Clary ancestors are as follows:
Vachel Clary b. 1765 PA and Rachel Briggs b. 14 Nov. 1767 PA
Son of Vachel Clary and Rachel Briggs: Vachel Clary b. 29 Aug 1899, d.
before Sep 1829 Darke County Greenville OH. He married Phebe Dean.
Daughters of Vachel Clary and Phebe Dean:
(1) Eliza Jane Clary b. 1823 OH d. 1904 Greenville Darke County OH.
She married Francis Waring on 11 Dec 1840 in Darke County, OH
(2) Patience/Patia Clary b. 9 Feb 1827 Greenville Darke County,OH
d. 7 July 1907 Columbus, Lowndes County, MS. She married James Lawrence
Waring (brother of Francis Waring) on 14 Apr 1842 Greenville Darke
County OH.
Patience Clary and James Lawrence Waring were my great-grandparents. If
you have any info on any of the above, please let me know. I will share
the info I have. Thanks from libba@ebicom.
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Need help or have suggestions for improvement:
contact - Dwayne Crandall at dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
Gary,
I'd be very careful. I seem to recall another similar title like "The Burkes
Peerage World Book of _____ (can't recall the name now)." Turns out this was
nothing more than a listing of people in phone books. If you really want this
type of information, then good or you could go to several white pages listings
like switchboard or netscape center.
It seems to be taking off a well know source of British heraldry:
Burke's genealogical and heraldic history of the peerage,
baronetage and knightage :
founded 1826 by John Burke and Sir Bernard Burke.
Dwayne Crandall
Listowner CLARY-L
-----Original Message-----
From: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 5:44 PM
To: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at INTERNET-EXT
Cc: Crandall, Dwayne; g_cleary(a)email.msn.com at INTERNET-EXT
Subject: Please Help !
24/7/98 23:40
my parents have recently received a letter informing them of a new book
called "The Burke's Peerage World Book of CLEARYS".
Has any body out there seen or bought a similar copy of this book referri=
ng
to their family name ? if so please can you advise if it was worth the mo=
ney
?
The book costs =A329.95 pounds sterling and claims to be able to assist w=
ith
genealogy as well as being a "Cleary International Directory"
In anticipation of your help thank you
Gary Cleary
G_Cleary(a)classic.msn.com
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY / HALLAM / KNOWLES / HELLEWELL / MOORE / WATERHOUSE - Cheshire, U.=
K
RATCLIFF - Manchester, U.K
LEWIS / WHITTLE / BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley, U.K
=3D=3D=3D=3D CLARY Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D
Do you have a web site with CLARY info?
Like to link it to mine? =20
See http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
or send message to dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
Searchable archives are now available for calendar year 1996 and
through Nov 1997 for the following e-mail lists:
CLARY
CRAIN
CRANDALL
The URL site is: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
Prior to 1996, I MAY have some archives, but queries would have to be
addressed specifically to me, as they are not as yet archived on the
web. (I just don't have enough space, yet).
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY, CRAIN, and CRANDALL e-mail lists
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
Hi Bonnie
I'm interested in what you have on the CLARY line.
Did part of your message get lost?? I did not find anything listed.
Dwayne Crandall
listowner CLARY-L
dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
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Subject: 1850 Shelby Co., IL census
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 7/14/97 10:25 AM
Hello all. Just want to share some info. on a CLARY family I found in this
copy of the census above mentioned. I don't subscribe to the list, so please
e-mail me directly if you need more information on this family. I have listed
the head of household and the state/country from which they came to Illinois.
Regards,
Bonnie
*******
CLARAY, Richard from Tennessee (wife Luiza)
First the good news! The CLARY-L does not cost anything. I am in the process of building another web site which will house, the four main surnames and variations I'm researching:
BTW, Our list got hit with some SPAM (unsolicited advertisement). It doesn't happen frequently, but it can occur because I have the list open as opposed to closed. If this becomes excessive, though, I may have to close it. What this means is to post, one will have to be subscribed to the list. Thus, if you try to send a message from another site other than the one you subscribed on, you won't be able
to.
Clary/Cleary/Clare/O'Clary, etc.
Cowan/Cowen/Cohan/Cohn/Cown, etc.
Crain/Crane/Craine/Crayne, etc.
Crandall/Crandell/Crandol/Crandle, etc.
The present web site is:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
As soon as I get a little further I'll post the other site.
This site will have the capability to post queries, etc.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L, CRAIN-L, and CRANDALL-L e-mail lists
dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
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Subject: Cleary Surname
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 2/21/98 7:06 AM
I picked up your Email address from the CLARY surname subscriber list. I'm
interested in researching my Cleary roots. Please tell me what services
(and costs involved) you can provide.
Thanks,
Tom C Cleary
tccleary(a)erols.com
==== CLARY Mailing List ====
Need help or have suggestions for improvement:
contact - Dwayne Crandall at dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
I know I have a group sheet on this individual but it's at home and
I'm not. Will check it out and get back to you.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
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Subject: William Deveron Clary
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 8/31/97 1:50 AM
My great grandfather was William Deveron Clary, m. Elizabeth Ward, both
of Logansport, In. Would appreciate any info regarding this family.
On July 31, 1911, Joseph Clary was buried in a collapse of part of
White Oak Mine in Joplin, MO. Luckily, after about 3 days, he was
rescured.
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
do you have any info on william clary of Arkansas circa 1860 to 1880?
The above question was sent to me directly. Can anyone help?
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
I have William Deveron CLARY b. 15 Sep 1792 in PA or KY married 23 Dec
1813, Catty Leggett. Wife #2 as Elenor Osborn.
Father of William Deveron was Vachel CLARY and mother Rachel BRIGGS.
Brother was David b. 31 Jan 1795. Some speculation (on my part and
others) that this David is one who is listed later in Indiana and in
my line. If so, I just put a picture up of his grandson, George W.
CLARY on my web page:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1949
Dwayne Crandall
listmogul CLARY-L
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: William Deveron Clary
Author: CLARY-L(a)rootsweb.com at internet-ext
Date: 8/31/97 1:50 AM
My great grandfather was William Deveron Clary, m. Elizabeth Ward, both
of Logansport, In. Would appreciate any info regarding this family.