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Can anyone help Ron out?
Dwayne Crandall
listowner CLARY-L
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Arledge [SMTP:rarledge@mailhost.col.ameritech.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 7:26 AM
> To: dcrandal(a)mail.coin.missouri.edu
> Subject: clary
>
> I was trying to find some info on Arley E Clary b Apr 21 1896
> in Ray, Ohio, d Apr 10 1979 in Ashville,Ohio. His wife,s name
> was Trudy ? They didn't have children. They lived in Circleville
> Ohio for quite a spell. Would you have anything on them? Ron;
Hi,
I just found an Asa/Assa Clary on the Brunswick Co., VA tax rolls for the
years 1810 -1813. Got any idea who he belongs to. Haven't seen any other
Brunswick Co. Va. records with his name on it.
Jackie Dolby
Researching
Brunswick Co. Va Clary's
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Just learned of a site for free forms and other helps for genealogical
research and wanted to share with other list members.
Homepage http://www.genrecords.com
Forms page http://www.genrecords.com/forms.htm
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Thanks for the information, I've posted this to the GenConnect Clary Obit
page at:
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/l/CLARY/obituaries
<http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/l/CLARY/obituaries>
NOTE- Anyone can post to this page directly rather than send the information
to the CLARY-L list or myself. See the above web site URL for instructions.
Dwayne Crandall
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From: Cathlipp(a)aol.com [SMTP:Cathlipp@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:33 AM
To: clary-l(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: {not a subscriber} CLARY Obituary (OH>AZ)
Thomas William Clary, 66, of Phoenix, a retired diesel mechanic,
died Jan.
25, 1999. He was born in Dayton, Ohio, and was a Navy veteran. He
also was
a member of the American Legion. Survivors include his wife, Helen
L.;
daughters, Deborah L. Fitzpatrick, Doreen Davidson and Ann L.
Wilcock; sons,
Wayne and David Bremer, Patrick Caulfield, and Dwayne and Douglas;
19
grandchildren; and one great-grandchildren. Services will be held
in
Dayton, Ohio. Newcomer Family Mortuary and Cremation Services.
> CLARY, Thomas William; 66; Phoenix AZ; AZ Republic; 1999-1-30
Hi,
I'm home from vacation and reading my e-mail for the last 2 hrs. Thought I'd
pass some of this good stuff along to you all.
-Jackie
This article first appeared April 29, 1999 on the
PAALLEGH-L Rootsweb list. It is reprinted here with
permission of the author.
Old documents are often rolled or folded and stuck in cedar
chests and drawers for years before someone moves them to another
drawer. They are aged in their shape and can break with handling.
They are dry and need to be hydrated.
Look around your home for a container with a tight fitting lid
(not so tight fitting that the container needs to be tipped for a
grip to take off the lid). I used a new galvanized garbage can,
but a smaller one will do if all you have is a few letter size
documents.
Inside the (clean) container, place a heavy bowl with a flat
bottom. Inside of THIS bowl, place a glass of water. Documents
can be placed, several at a time, around outside of the bowl in
the large container (outside of the water please). Make sure they
are stable enough not to tip over to the water. Place the lid on
the container and leave it alone for several hours. Needless to
say, this whole thing should be out of the way of dogs, children
and mothers who insist on constantly dusting! Put it in a spare
room and close the door.
After several hours, check the paper. Flex it to check how well
it unrolls, unfolds or just feels right. (It's like making dough
- you learn the feel.) Some papers hydrate very quickly. I have
already left a super thick post-Victorian wedding certificate in
as long as 24 hours, but many papers hydrate in six.
Purchase white blotter paper in an art supply store. Lay one
sheet of blotter paper down on a table, and spread the documents
flat as possible on the blotter paper. Check to make sure folded
edges are unfolded, and torn edges close together. A set of stamp
collector tweezers is perfect for this job and other steps to
follow. Place another blotter paper on top. Weigh down this whole
thing with heavy books (one use for an encyclopedia set).
The blotter paper will absorb any excess moisture and I've never
had a problem with mold. Leave the documents pressed for 12 to 24
hours. If they roll when uncovered, they either need to be
pressed more or they possibly need hydrated more (although that's
very rare).
After uncovering the documents, you can begin repair. Odd smudges
of dirt and pencil can be encouraged off with a Pink Pearl
eraser. Don't use another kind. Other types of cleaning products
should only be used by professionals, and the Pink Pearl should
be used with extreme caution.
A company called Light Impressions (more information about the
company at the end of this article) sells a Filmoplast P repair
tape (transparent). I always mend on the back of the document.
The tape is pH neutral and doesn't yellow. It also can be removed
and applied again during the taping process, which is a big help
for those doing this for the first time. Don't use scotch
tape--ever. Remove old tape if it won't destroy the document
finish. It usually falls right off.
The mylar top-loader envelopes are fine for storing smaller
documents. I buy mine at one of the discount chains on sale (I
sometimes pay $4 for 50). Archival companies charge a lot more.
But many documents need bigger storage. From Light Impressions I
also bought a pack of large size mylar sheets and a heavier mylar
roll in a very large size. To use these, you need double-sided
tape. Make sure you purchase Ph neutral tape.
Cut two pieces of mylar about one inch larger than the document
you have. Lay the now repaired and flat document in the center of
one mylar piece. Unroll a length of double-sided tape and
carefully place it from one corner of the document to another
corner, leaving at least 1/4 inch of air space from the document
to the tape. Repeat on each side, leaving an "air hole" of 1/8
inch or slightly larger at each corner. There will be a paper
lining on the top side of the tape. Leave it in place for now.
Lay another piece of mylar on top. Set a gentle weight on top of
the stack, so that your sheets don't move as you work. With your
tweezers, work one edge of paper lining off of one length of
tape. Strip it off, and then press the two mylar pieces together
on that side. Repeat, one side at a time. It can be tricky to do
this without making a ripple, but the tape is stays removable for
a long time. I use an old squeegy roller to set the tape after I
check it. Trim outside edges, if needed. Store flat in an
archival box or artist's portfolio for the best preservation.
The first document is nerve-wracking to do, but it really is
easy.
More information can be found at the following websites:
I purchase from a company called Light Impressions,
(http://www.lightimpressions.com/), 439 Monroe Avenue, P. O. Box
940, Rochester, NY 14603-0940. I have dealt with them for about
13 years and have never had an ordering problem. They have a
graduated pricing system, which means that if you buy in bulk, it
costs less, so ask your friends who have documents before you
order. Get the best price possible.
But you CAN buy one or two of an item, something many archival
companies don't do.
Abbey/Watchung
http://www.abbeyw.com/index.html
Preserving your photographs and records - Suite101.comhttp://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/genealogy/13518
Preservation of Archival Records: Holdings Maintenance at the
National Archives
http://www.nara.gov/nara/preserva/maintena/hm1.html
Global Archival Supply - Archival Supplies For Archivists &
Genealogists - Main Page
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/archival.htm
Tips on Protective Enclosures for Pamphlets
http://www.archival.com/NA8.html
____________________________________________________
just found this on the Derbyshire list
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
<mailto:GAC@cleary1.freeserve.co.uk>
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
<http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk>
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bruff [mailto:mbruff@dircon.co.uk]
Sent: 08 July 1999 23:30
To: DERBYSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: FW: Asylums and Workhouses
Just had this in from the Cornwall list. Looks useful!
Cheers
Mick
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From: "Rick Parsons" <Rick(a)parsons1998.freeserve.co.uk>
To: CORNISH-GEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Asylums and Workhouses
Date: Thu, Jul 8, 1999, 6:16 pm
This topic has been hot for a few days and by chance I hit on this resource
whilst searching the web for something else.
"Paupers in Workhouses 1861" by G. Bell
It is an index on microfiche of a govt. survey of who was in workhouses, why
and lots of other details. Importantly it was almost simultaneous with the
1861 census which was rather sparse of information for these inmates,
sometimes only giving initials.
For more details see http://www.original-indexes.demon.co.uk/
Before you get too excited, there are loads of other indexes for sale on
this site but almost all are for the very North of England.
Cheers,
Rick Parsons
Researching One Name Study R E N O W D E N originating in Cornwall, England.
EMail: rick.parsons(a)bigfoot.com
Web Site: http://www.parsons1998.freeserve.co.uk
(with extensive West Penwith, Cornwall resources)
Mail: 18, Brighton Road, Redland, Bristol BS6 6NT, England.
Tel: +(44) 117 974 1288
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over the past weeks I have seen some requests for information on where
certain areas are in relation to others for the UK.
try the link below to find the relevant upto date map of that area.
http://uk.multimap.com/map/places.cgi/
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
Censusthere is also this that I've found relating to the above question
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England Wales Contents
Census
There has been a census every ten years since 1801, excluding 1941. However,
only those that date from 1841 are of real value to the family historian.
The administration of the early census returns 1801-1831 was the
responsibility of the Overseers of the Poor and the clergy.
Most of these early returns were unfortunately destroyed, although in some
isolated instances they have been preserved. The census returns for 1841
were the first to be kept and, as far as the general public is concerned,
the information is released by the Public Record Office after a hundred
years. For example, the public were given access to the 1891 census returns
on 1 January 1992.
The 1841 census was different from the previous censuses in two important
respects. Firstly, the administration passed into the hands of the Registrar
General and the Superintendant Registrars, who were responsible for the
registration of births, marriages and deaths. Many recent reforms, including
the 1836 General Registration Act, which had culminated in the introduction
of civil registration had resulted in a new layer of central and local
government.
When the 1841 census was being prepared, it was seen as a logical step that
it should also supervise the census. Consequently, civil registration and
census taking became inter-related; any change in local boundaries or
districts affected them both.
Secondly, the emphasis changed from questions concerned with population
size, and the numbers engaged in certain occupations and the condition of
the housing stock, to a much more detailed analysis of individuals and
families, and the communities in which they lived.
Census returns are held at
a.. England and Wales
a.. "Family Records Centre"
b.. 1 Mydlleton Street
c.. Islington
d.. LONDON EC1R 1UW
b.. Scotland
a.. New Register House,
b.. Princes St,
c.. Edinburgh EH1 3YT
c.. District Libraries
a.. normally have copies of the returns for their own area
d.. LDS
a.. have copies of the census microfilms. These usually need to be
ordered unless you are visiting a branch of the LDS in the same area as the
returns in which you are interested.
It is advisable before making a trip to a library or record office, to check
the exact whereabouts of specific census returns in order to avoid a wasted
visit. Also some libraries may have a limited number of viewers and a
booking may be necessary.
In 1851, in addition to the census of population a census was taken of
places of worship. Although this was purely voluntary, most places of
Worship made returns.
Further Reading
a.. An introduction to the Census Returns of England & Wales, Sue Lumas,
1992, FFHS
b.. Marriage, Census and other indexes for Family Historians (4th ed 1992)
J Gibson & E Hampson.
c.. Census Indexes in the Library of Society of Genealogists, J E Kenyon,
Society of Genealogists
d.. Making Sense of the Census: The Manuscript Returns for England and
Wales, 1801 - 1901, Edward Higgs, PRO Handbook No. 23 (HMSO, London, 1989)
[Last updated 12 June 1997 - Phil Stringer]
at the request of other searchers, here is what I've received regarding the
question of "which census to use?"
again many thanks for all of the help
happy reading
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
<mailto:GAC@cleary1.freeserve.co.uk>
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
<http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk>
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
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Gary
There is a lot of talk of the 1881 census because it has just recently been
released on cd rom and a lot of people have bought it and some of these have
kindly offered to do look-ups. It is also available on microfiche in most
big libraries and Mormon FHC's. The 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1891 are
available in London or in the geographical location you are interested in
except I believe there is an index held for the 1851 for some areas as well.
Hope this clears things up a bit.
Terry in Oxfordshire
- ------------------------------------------------------
Dear Gary,
These censuses happen to be indexed, the other years are not. Hence their
popularity.
Paul Young
Liverpool UK
Researching SINKER anywhere, anydate
St Barnabas Church Penny Lane Liverpool Web site:
http://pennylaneliverpool.merseyside.org/
for lots of Liverpool photographs
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Gary, all census are useful but the 1881 has been indexed fo the UK so you
can quickly find those elusive ancestors. parts of the 1851 have also been
indexed but in a ad hoc way. If you were at the Family History Center in
London they have various finding aids, which help in narrowing down the
search. the 1841 census lacked the actual birth location having a heading
"Born in county" yes/no & ages were rounded up or down (cant remember
which). Many local societies publish index's which will often give you the
exact fil/fiche you need when searching the census.. I am pretty sure the
there is a one of the Gibbson guides on using the census plus other books
etc. You should find info on the WWW. in various places. As a start try
http://www.cyndislist.com/ and then go to census site worldwide.. Good
Hunting
Peter Clare
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Others are available, from what I know of the census records 1881 is the
most widely transcribed and on CD. The others are often minimal in either
area or information. Some list somethng like household head, but not the
rest of the information we really need. will stand corrected on this
though.
The 1881 have been released and are available vis the Mormon Family history
centres to buy. very cheap and a great resource. most others are not
avaiable other than on microfilm,.
Lynn Johnson Faranda
"A blind man may see many things that a sighted man may not" unknown
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In a message dated 7/6/1999 3:00:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk writes:
<< everybody seems to talk about the 1881 & 1851 census records why? are the
other census's not >>
these two are complete and on CD. from LDS.
Go and check the CENSUS information on www.genuki.org.uk
This will tell all.
--
Neil Wagstaff - Provo, Utah, USA
http://www.xmission.com/~famties
Researching:
DEWSNUP, Lancs
DEARDEN, Spotland, Lancs
GRINDROD, Hallfold, Lancs
HEYWOOD, Lancs
NEEDHAM, Derby
RUDMAN, Hallfold, Lancs
TOPPING, Lancs
WAGSTAFF, Lancs, Derby
- -----------------------------------------------------
Gary,
All the censuses are "available" through the LDS tape rental system,
which you can access locally at your Family History Center. They may
also be available at selected libraries.
The 1881 and 1851 censuses are most frequently referred to because they
have been indexed more extensively than others. The 1881 census is
available, nation wide, on CD from LDS. The 1851 census is indexed for
more selected areas.
As one who has slogged through films of the 1871 and 1861 censuses for
several districts in the Macclesfield area, and is slowly trying my best
with the very difficult 1841 census, I can assure you they are of great
use! It is a lot of hard work, but when you suddenly find that family
you are searching for it is all worth it.
Beverly Fearn Porter, Columbia, Maryland
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Are you aware of the Cleary News family history newsletter? Please contact
us for more info.
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All the cenuses between 1841 an 1891 and available and are most
certainly of use. The distinction is that the 1881 census had been
*indexed* for the whole country - and the 1851 partially so. There are
other partial indexes produced by individual Family History Socs.
Otherwise one has to search the microfilm copies of the original census;
house-by-house, not a job to be lightly undertaked - for the big cities (eg
Manchester).
I hope this helps.
Eric Youle
South Australia
______________________________________________________________________
Family History Reseach Notes:-
<http://mtx.net.au/~exy/family_history_research.html>
Main interests- Youle, White, Marrison, Barker, Morton, Hartley
- Broughton, Gardiner, Rolt, Bunn.
many thanks to all the people who have pointed me in the right direction on
the above subject
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
This URL is the direct site:
http://lostandfound.acmecity.com/dog/20/clary/index.htm
Copy and paste it, if you can - note all letters are in small case.
Dwayne
-----Original Message-----
From: SWell1937(a)aol.com [SMTP:SWell1937@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 9:48 AM
To: crandallc(a)umsystem.edu
Subject: Re: GEDCOM of my CLARY on line now
Hi I can't get into the lostand found.com. Any sugguestions?
Shirley Wellman
Please can anyone help me with the Census's Available.
everybody seems to talk about the 1881 & 1851 census records why? are the
other census's not available or of no use ?
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
During the Civil War, a CSA soldier named I.W. Clary died in Winchester,
TN in the hospital. A brief death notice in the Winchester newspaper
asked it also be published in the Shelbyville (Bedford Co., TN)
newspaper. There was a Dr. J.W. Clary written up in Goodspeed's History
of Bedford Co., TN. Can someone tell me who I.W. Clary's parents were
and how he was related to Dr. J.W. Clary? Thanks for any and all help.
The UK Phone book is now online, so you can all look for
yourselves at
http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/
Gary Cleary
e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
Genealogy Interests
CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
PAF (Personal Ancestor File) is the new download available from the
Latter Day Saints website, www.familysearch.com. I have started to use
it, and so far I love it. I have never purchased any of the programs
available on disc....I've only had my computer for about 6 months and
had never settled on which one I should invest in. So for me, the PAF
4.0 download is like a dream come true. Now I can organize all my data
on the computer, using the extremely "novice-friendly" prompts.
Gary Cleary wrote:
> What is PAF?
>
> Gary Cleary
>
> e-mail : GAC(a)cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
>
> web page : http://www.cleary1.freeserve.co.uk
>
> Genealogy Interests
>
> CLEARY/HALLAM/KNOWLES/HELLIWELL/MOORE/WATERHOUSE - Cheshire U.K
>
> RATCLIFFE - Manchester U.K
>
> LEWIS/WHITTLE/BIRCH - U.K
>
> SUTCLIFFE - Burnley U.K
>
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