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Hi Sherry and All,
I just sent a message to the person that forwarded the data to me asking him
who the person was that hired the genealogist, etc.
The data that was sent to me takes the Clarks a long way back and comes
forward into Colonial Jamestown, VA, for a beginning in the New World.
It would appear that the Benjamins in Haywood Co., NC, are mixed up by the
records we have found. I sure hope we can straighten them out.
George Clark, s/o Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark, is my ancestor and his son
George died in Lincoln Co., NC.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that we can resolve all this soon as I'd like
to have my records correct too. I'm always open to suggestions and
corrections.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention,
Shirley McCoy
I believe the the deed refers to the father Benjamin as being deceased
(abt 1814 or so), not Zach. And Zach is selling his interest to his
brother William. That's why the estate sale of 1845 doesn't mention,
Zach...
He, then, could be the one in the 1840 Census in MO and that's why he
sold his interest... To relocate to MO...
Have you found him in the 1850 Census with his family?
Let me know if you get a date for this transfer of Zach's interest in the
land...
From Joe ARLT........joearlt@juno.com......CLARK Clearing House...
Compulsive Genealogy Searcher,
ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA,
GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS,
Van AUKEN & WAGNER
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:09:19 EDT Bodorosh(a)aol.com writes:
> Thanks Joe, That is great, I believe the William is bro. to Zach. I
> need to
> find a date for this deed. Zach is in the 1820 Census of Haywood
> and I
> thought he was the Zachariah in the 1840 Pulaski Co. MO. Census, but
> if he
> died prior to 1840 this may not be him. The estate sale was 1845
> and Zach
> is not mentioned in it. Zach had 8 bro and sister, I wonder if they
> each got
> a share, or if the bulk was left to Zach's own family? Sherry
>
> HAYWOOD CO., NC DEED BOOK F, p. 123
>
> Zachariah Clark, one-eighth interest in land belonging to his
> father,
> Benjamin Clark, deceased, to William Clark
> ===========================
>
> But it ties Zachariah Clark to his father...
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How do you get this DNA kit or info on this study? I know that there is no way to connect through the female side. I have a CLARK brother who is a direct male descendant of a CLARK male who died 1862. That is as far back as I can get. Someone please send me info on getting this DNA kit or into this CLARK study. Thanks
Kitty Clark Donovan
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Hi Kitty and Everyone,
You can go to the Family Tree DNA web page at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/
and search for Clark, then click on Clark and it will give you a place
to write to the person in charge of the test.
Or, you can write Suzanne Johnston at
gjohnston3(a)comcast.net
You need to give her the name and address of the person to be tested,
and you will need to send a pedigree as far back as you have it. In my
case, it was my brother, and all we know is back to our gg-grandfather,
but we lucked out and matched someone who has their ancestry back to the
1600-1700's. I don't know how we fit in there, but we do someway.
I urge all of you male Clarks to participate in this study.
I hope this helps, and that you have a great day.
Best wishes,
Sharon Clark
Fort Worth, TX
clarksha(a)swbell.net
Thanks Joe, That is great, I believe the William is bro. to Zach. I need to
find a date for this deed. Zach is in the 1820 Census of Haywood and I
thought he was the Zachariah in the 1840 Pulaski Co. MO. Census, but if he
died prior to 1840 this may not be him. The estate sale was 1845 and Zach
is not mentioned in it. Zach had 8 bro and sister, I wonder if they each got
a share, or if the bulk was left to Zach's own family? Sherry
HAYWOOD CO., NC DEED BOOK F, p. 123
Zachariah Clark, one-eighth interest in land belonging to his father,
Benjamin Clark, deceased, to William Clark
===========================
But it ties Zachariah Clark to his father...
Hi Shirley, Who is the professional genealogist that did this work and when
was it done? Is it possible that since doing that genealogy of Rev. Benjamin
Wilson Clark, it has been added to and posted as coming from the original
source? There were several Benjamin Clark's and Benjamin Clarke's in the area
at the same time. I have a death date of 1814 for Benjamin Clark in Haywood
Co. born 1755 or before. Where did you get the name Mary Trussell as wife of
Benjamin born 1755 from? My Benjamin Clark born May 31, 1793 who married
Lucy Dalton has a daughter Mary Trussell Clark born Sept. 3, 1816 in Haywood
Co. NC. In one of my posting on one of the boards I was searching for a link
betweens the Trussells and Clarks, but never found it. Could it have been
picked up from there? Sherry
Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark and first wife, Elizabeth Lee had a son Benjamin,
b. 1755, d. 1844 Haywood Co., NC. THEN Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark and second
wife had a son, Benjamin Wilson Clark, Jr. b. 1773.
Anyway, the children listed for the Benjamin b. 1755, wife unknown (not Mary
Trussell) were:
1. STEWART b. c1778 NC
2. WILLIAM b. c1785 NC
3. DEBORAH b. c1786 NC
4. ZACHARIAH b. c1787 NC
5. JOHN b. c1788 NC
6. BENJAMIN F. b. c1792 NC
7. RICHARD b. c1795 NC
Hi Shirley....
My Data base did not have a Benjamin as son of Benjamin Clark
(my#4927)(b. 1730, Albemarle Co., VA) & Elizabeth LEA.. Did your notes
have a source?
I had George, [son of Benjamin Clark (my#4927)(b. 1730, Albemarle Co.,
VA) & Elizabeth LEA], m. Jean or Jane HOPE, & death as 28 Nov 1814... Is
this your line?
From Joe ARLT........joearlt@juno.com......CLARK Clearing House...
Compulsive Genealogy Searcher,
ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA,
GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS,
Van AUKEN & WAGNER
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 02:56:12 EDT Brashergen(a)aol.com writes:
> Hi All,
> I've just read this data and am researching NC Clarks also. I
> looked through
> my files and found data on this Benjamin done by a professional
> genealogist.
> As you will see there are two Benjamins in the same family so it
> doesn't look
> right to me but you decide.
>
> Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark and first wife, Elizabeth Lee had a son
> Benjamin,
> b. 1755, d. 1844 Haywood Co., NC. THEN Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark
> and second
> wife had a son, Benjamin Wilson Clark, Jr. b. 1773.
>
> Anyway, the children listed for the Benjamin b. 1755, wife unknown
> (not Mary
> Trussell) were:
> 1. STEWART b. c1778 NC
> 2. WILLIAM b. c1785 NC
> 3. DEBORAH b. c1786 NC
> 4. ZACHARIAH b. c1787 NC
> 5. JOHN b. c1788 NC
> 6. BENJAMIN F. b. c1792 NC
> 7. RICHARD b. c1795 NC
>
> This would make this Benjamin (b. 1755) a brother of my George Clark
> who d.
> Lincoln Co., NC.
>
> I wonder what these children's full names are as I've never seen a
> "Stewart"
> Clark in these lines.
> Shirley McCoy
> brashergen(a)aol.com
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Hi Sherry,
I don't have a date for this...
=========================
HAYWOOD CO., NC DEED BOOK F, p. 123
Zachariah Clark, one-eighth interest in land belonging to his father,
Benjamin Clark, deceased, to William Clark
===========================
But it ties Zachariah Clark to his father...
>From Joe ARLT........joearlt@juno.com......CLARK Clearing House...
Compulsive Genealogy Searcher,
ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA,
GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS,
Van AUKEN & WAGNER
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:29:47 EDT Bodorosh(a)aol.com writes:
> Hi Joe, Ben Clark born 1755 or before did not leave a will. The
> children are
> from the estate sale by his heirs in 1844/45 in Haywood Co. NC.
> Zachariah
> was not mentioned in the land sale, however he was living next to
> Ben and
> Mary in 1810 and widow Mary in 1820, and I believe he may have
> already
> received his part of the land then. He was also a witness on the
> deed buying
> the land in 1802.
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Hi Margaret,
The way I understand it: Everyone has two sex chromosomes. They have
to get an "X" chromosome from their mother, because females have 2 "X"
chromosomes -- that's what makes a baby a female. They can either get
an "X" or a "Y" from their dad. If they get an "X" from the dad, the
baby is a female; if they get a "Y", the baby is a male.
The "Y" chromosome is passed down from father to son, unchanged over the
generations. This is why they are checking only males with the Clark
surname. A male Clark today has the same "Y" chromosome that his many
many great grandfather Clark had several generations ago, unless
something has happened and the chromosome has mutated. They are not
getting DNA from dead people.
I hope this helps, and I hope you male Clarks will join the study to
help those of us who don't have a clue.
Have a great day.
Best wishes,
Sharon Clark
Fort Worth, TX
clarksha(a)swbell.net
Hello to All, I am looking for any information on my great great great grandmother Delilah Clark who married John Petty on June 13, 1834 in Chatham co. NC. Delilah was born it says in records I have in Hillsborough, Orange co. NC. Her mother has been listed as Rebecca Pearson and Delilahs fathers name might have been John Clark. John Petty and Delilah Clark went to Greensboro, NC. or Ind. in 1840 and wound up in Noble Township, Shelby co. Ind. from the 1840s to 1865 or 66 where they farmed, in 1865 or 66 they went to Maine Prairie Township, Stearns co. Mn. where they died both are buried in the Maine Prairie Cemetery. John Petty died on December 19, 1877, and Delilah Clark died on January 13, 1912. Delilah was said to be related to George Rogers Clark and William Clark of Lewis and Clark fame. Any information on this Clark family and which Clark family Delilah Clark Petty was from I would like to know very much. Thank you very much. Duane McKenzie. mailto:dmckenze@hutchtel.n!
et
About the dna tests? How do you get dna from someone who died so long ago.
Disinterrment?
I am curious about this testing. Did I miss something that discussed it and
told how and why?
Margaret
Hi All,
I've just read this data and am researching NC Clarks also. I looked through
my files and found data on this Benjamin done by a professional genealogist.
As you will see there are two Benjamins in the same family so it doesn't look
right to me but you decide.
Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark and first wife, Elizabeth Lee had a son Benjamin,
b. 1755, d. 1844 Haywood Co., NC. THEN Rev. Benjamin Wilson Clark and second
wife had a son, Benjamin Wilson Clark, Jr. b. 1773.
Anyway, the children listed for the Benjamin b. 1755, wife unknown (not Mary
Trussell) were:
1. STEWART b. c1778 NC
2. WILLIAM b. c1785 NC
3. DEBORAH b. c1786 NC
4. ZACHARIAH b. c1787 NC
5. JOHN b. c1788 NC
6. BENJAMIN F. b. c1792 NC
7. RICHARD b. c1795 NC
This would make this Benjamin (b. 1755) a brother of my George Clark who d.
Lincoln Co., NC.
I wonder what these children's full names are as I've never seen a "Stewart"
Clark in these lines.
Shirley McCoy
brashergen(a)aol.com
Patti,
I confess that I have wondered the same when I have seen these names posted, but I have nothing concrete to tie them together. Samuel Clark of Guilford who died in Randolph County NC in 1783 had sons Thomas, Edward, Samuel, William, Joseph, George & John.
Thomas had only two sons--Samuel & Thomas
Edward had three sons born before 1800, one of whom was named Samuel. Samuel died in Grainger Co TN in 1809, but he did leave the following children: Edward Jr. b. 1794-1800; Mary b. 1800-1810; William b. 1800-1810; Joseph b. 1800-1810; John b. 1800-1810.
Samuel had a daughter Dorcas who married John Gossett & migrated to Indiana. Other children, according to his will, were John, Jane, Robert, Thomas, Hannah & Joseph. All were probably born before 1800, but any one could have fathered a Samuel, William & Joseph.
George b. 22 Jun 1749 York Co PA. The only son I know about is Benjamin.
William b. 1753 became Quaker after the Rev War. Married Eleanor Dougan. Several of his children migrated to Indiana as part of the Quaker migration. They were all born before 1801.
Joseph b. abt. 1756 d. bef. 1793 in Randolph Co NC. I have no information on his family, if any.
John b. 1759 d. 1816 in Randolph; married Mary Spencer. I have no information on his children or descendants.
Wish I could be more helpful.
Fay Clark
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler(a)attbi.com>
Reply-To: CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:03:04 -0700
>I am wondering if these Clarks may be connected to your family? One of them
>married Mitilda Hendrson, daughter of Jonathan Henderson and Anna Jane
>Louderback.
>
>
>Was Benjamin CLARK b abt 1790 the father of:
>
>Samuel CLARK b 1810 TN, m. 1831 Louisa Tommason, Fayette Co, IN
>William CLARK b 1811 TN m. 1835 Sarah Abrams, Fayette Co, IN
>Joseph CLARk b 1813 TN m. 1838 Mitilda Henderson, Fayette Co, IN
>
>Patti
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fay Clark" <gmcflc(a)ethixs.com>
>To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
>
>
>> Donna & All,
>>
>> I just found an old message from Donna regarding the children of Thomas
>> Clark. Please scan and note the mention of Baptiste Clark, then read on--
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> <<James was b. ca 1776 in NC, m. Agnes Henderson, d. ca 1846 in Madison
>> Co.,
>> AR. He had 7 brothers: Thomas, John, Alexander, Benjamin, Samuel,
>Stewart
>> and William. He had two sisters: Deborah and Sarah (Sally). He and
>Agnes
>> had the following children:
>>
>> Baptiste Clark, b. ca 1803 KY, m. Elizabeth ?
>> Sarah Clark, b. 1805, KY or TN, m. Charles Whiteley
>> Richard Clark, b. 1807 TN, m. Eliz. Jane Grigg
>> James Clark, b. 1808 TN, m. Matilda ?
>> Thomas Clark, b. 1809 KY or TN, m. Nancy Combs
>> Agnes Clark, b. 1814 TN, m. Richard Frazier
>> Virginia Clark, b. 1819, TN m. Isaac Vaughan
>> Henderson Clark, b. 1823 TN, m. Sarah Hester & (2) Hetha Wharton
>>
>> <<With the unusual name of Baptist(e) I am assuming that is a name passed
>> down
>> through the Clark family. I have reason to believe that this family came
>> from PA through Cumberland Gap to the south.>> --end of message--
>>
>> Dr. Thomas Hamm, whose interest is Samuel Clark of Guilford Co, NC (son
>> Thomas b. 1743 York Co, PA) has written the following regarding Baptist
>> Clark:
>>
>> <<There appear to have been several men named Baptist Clark, and I
>> think that they are connected with Samuel Clark who died in 1783.
>> One of my finds of earlier this summer was a 1743 land warrant in
>> what is now York Co., Pa., for a Baptist Clark. On the 1768 Rowan
>> County, NC, tax list, a Baptist Clark is living with Samuel Clark
>> (died 1783). Since he isn't in Samuel's will, I take it that he
>> isn't a son. Perhaps he is a nephew or younger sibling. I don't
>> think that he is the man in York Co. in 1743. But it's an unusual
>> name, and may be useful in sorting out the earlier generations.>>
>>
>> Dr. Hamm has gone on to write that last summer he found and purchased a
>1743
>> land warrant for a Baptist Clark in Hanover Township, Lancaster Co, PA.
>He
>> says that Hanover Twp is in what became York Co in 1748 and it is where
>> Samuel was living in 1749 when his son George was born, per George's
>> Revolutionary pension statement. According to Dr. Hamm, this is right in
>> the middle of a large Scots-Irish settlement. The following information
>> came from Dr. Hamm's research:
>>
>> >Randolph Co, NC, 1790 Census
>> >
>> > 987 Bratton Robert 3 3 4
>> > 988 Clark Joseph 1 1 6
>> > 989 Clark Samuel 1
>> > son of Thomas & Sarah Clark, young & single
>> > 990 Clark Samuel, Jr. 2 2 6
>> > Samuel E. Clark, the JR means he's the s/o Samuel I
>> > 991 Clark Edward 2 1 6
>> > 992 Clark Baptist 1 3 7
>>
>> Barbara Newsom Grigg, Randolph County, North Carolina Deed Abstracts,
>Books
>> 1 thru 5, 1779-1794 (Asheboro, N.C. 1979):
>>
>> p. 19. Bk. 2, p. 19. Oct. 23, 1782. State grant to John More, 400 acres
>on
>> Muddy Creek adj. Thomas Clark [s/o Samuel Clark I] & Baptiste Clark
>>
>> p. 56. Bk. 3, p. 252. Jan. 16,1788. Ben Rush & Ben Millikan, admrs. of
>> estate of Crafford Rush, decd., to Abraham Woodward, 120 acres on Mountain
>> Creek & Carraway waters. Wit: Baptis Clark, Robert Brattan
>>
>> p. 71, Bk. 4, p. 57. March 1, 1790. John Moore to Edward Clark [s/o
>Samuel
>> Clark I], 100 pds., 400 acres on Muddy Creek adj. Thomas Clark [s/o Samuel
>> Clark I] & Baptist Clark. Wit: John Clark [s/o Samuel Clark I], William
>> Bell.
>>
>> p. 87. Bk. 5, p. 74. Aug. 28, 1793. Raveal Stafford of Randolph Co. to
>> Joanthan (sic) Parker of Guilford Co., tract on Deep River, formerly
>> property of Jacob Skean. Wit: George Irwin, Baptist Clark.
>>
>> Jo White Linn, Rowan County, North Carolina, Tax Lists, 1757-1800 (1995).
>>
>> 1768, William Millikan's List.
>> p. 97. Saml Clark
>> Son Edward
>> Saml
>> George
>> John Fleck
>> Baptis Clark 6 polls
>>
>> BTW, Gerald Johnston mentioned also the FRAZIER surname, which is linked
>to
>> the CLARKs in Randolph Co, NC.
>>
>> Fay Clark
>>
>>
>http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=gmcflc&I11.x=37&I11.y=2
>>
>> Researching the families of Otter Creek in Wayne County, Kentucky:
>ADKINS,
>> BARGAR, BELL, BLEVINS, BOWEN, CLARK, DAVIS, FIELDS, GUFFEY, HANCOCK,
>HARMON,
>> HICKS, HOWARD, JEFFRIES, MASSENGALE, NEAL, PATTON, PROVINCE, SLAGLE,
>SMITH,
>> VICKERY/VICKREY/VICKORY, WALDEN/WALLEN, WILEY, WILLIAMS and their KIN.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donna" <ladylv56(a)mchsi.com>
>> To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
>>
>>
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > My gr. gr. gr. grandfather, James Clark, whom I THOUGHT was the son of
>> > Thomas and Sarah Clark and grandson of Richard and Elizabeth Bohannan
>> Clark,
>> > had seven brothers and 2 sisters: Stewart Clark, Thomas Clark, John
>> Clark,
>> > Benjamin Clark, Samuel Clark, William Clark, Alexander Clark, Deborah
>> Clark,
>> > and Sarah Clark. Sarah Clark I have as b. ca 1778 in NC. I don't have
>a
>> > record of whom Sarah married, could have been your John Johnston, I
>don't
>> > know. I do know that James went from NC to area around Pulaski Co., KY
>> and
>> > to Warren Co., TN and then ended up in Madison Co., AR. My parents
>ended
>> up
>> > in McDonald Co., MO where I was born. Winnifred Bell Clark Miller was
>my
>> > mother's name. Her father was Thomas Gifford Clark, son of Richard
>Clark
>> > and grandson of my James Clark. Between all of us we should be able to
>> put
>> > this puzzle together.
>> >
>> > Donna Miller Brown
>> > ladylv56(a)mchsi.com
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Gerald Johnston" <gerald.h.johnston(a)worldnet.att.net>
>> > To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:55 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > > Okay - I am going to through another wrench in the works!
>> > >
>> > > I thought I had finally found the parents of my Sarah Jane Clark
>> Johnston,
>> > > b. 1774, in NC; married John Johnston, b. 1779; in Orange Co., NC,
>1797.
>> > >
>> > > I thought she was the Sarah shown in many Rootsweb.com records to be
>> born
>> > in
>> > > about 1786, and earlier estimations.
>> > >
>> > > I am NOT convinced that she is not the daughter of either Thomas or
>> > possibly
>> > > Richard and Elizabeth.
>> > >
>> > > Let me explain; my Sarah and John Johnston moved to Second Creek, in
>> > > Lauderdale Co., AL and Warren Co., TN area. From there, John moved
>with
>> > his
>> > > sons to Madison Co., AR. The sons went on to Benton Co. AR and
>McDonald
>> > > Co., MO and environs.
>> > >
>> > > John and Sarah Clark Johnstons' 4 known children were: John Clark
>> > Johnston,
>> > > Samuel Carter Johnston, Elizabeth B. Johnston, and William King
>> Johnston.
>> > >
>> > > John Clark Johnston's oldest son was Thomas Clark Johnston.
>> > >
>> > > Elizabeth B. Johnston, who married a Wm. Johnson (it should never have
>> > been
>> > > allowed!!!) is speculated, due to difficult penmanship deciphering, to
>> > have
>> > > been Elizabeth Bowles/Balds/Bowman Johnston. I am wondering if it
>might
>> > > instead be Elizabeth Bohannon Johnston???
>> > >
>> > > So; was my Sarah the child of Thomas Clark and an earlier wife than
>Jane
>> > > Ford? Or, could she even be a daughter of Richard and Elizabeth
>Clark,
>> or
>> > > even Richard and his second wife, Sarah???
>> > >
>> > > This really is a conundrum!!!
>> > >
>> > > I know she is related to the same group of Clarks; along with the
>> > Springer,
>> > > Frazier, Johnson, Coombs, and other allied families that moved across
>> > > country.
>> > >
>> > > Let me know what you all think.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > Jerry Johnston
>> > > Scottsdale, AZ
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ====
>> > > CLARKE Resources at RootsWeb - is your Clark-Clarke webpage linked
>here?
>> > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/c/l/CLARKE/
>> > > List Manager's address CLARKE-admin(a)rootsweb.com
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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Thanks Mary, Yes, that is not new info on FamilySearch. I keep hoping that
I will find another working on my Clark line. I am never sure of what to
say as I have exhausted the accessible online data and have researched in
Salt Lake etc. It is always nice of others to point out online info. What
is the best way to say, "I have been researching a long time, know the
resources etc. and still looking for a connection" . So many nice people go
to great lengths to send me links to stuff that I already have.
Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen
Portland, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Sykes" <marysykes(a)flash.net>
To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Elliott D Clark, Dutchy Clark, Marion Co IN
> Have you looked in Family Search? There is a
> Clark/Hammack on there. I do not have your dates so
> was not sure.
> --- Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen <pattitwirler(a)attbi.com>
> wrote:
> > I have CLARKS who came from TN to Fayette, Henry and
> > Hancock Co, IN and then
> > on to Harrison Co, MO. I have an Eliza Jane Clark
> > but she married Hammack.
> > I might find "Dutchy" when you figure out his real
> > name. These Clarks are
> > hard to follow.
> >
> > Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen
> > Portland, OR
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeannine Bristow"
> > <jbristow(a)wolftechnical.com>
> > To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:30 AM
> > Subject: [Clarke-Clark] Elliott D Clark, Dutchy
> > Clark, Marion Co IN
> >
> >
> > > This is my brick wall! Hope you can follow:
> > >
> > > My ggrandmother was Eliza, Lydia, Lida Jane Clark.
> > Her parents were
> > Dutchy
> > > Clark (dob abt 1856) and Caroline Hancock.
> > Eliza's birth records and
> > > marriage records can be found in Marion Co
> > Indiana. Her dob is
> > > 5/28/1883. Her marriage to Alfred Richard Wilson
> > was on 12/24/1899. I'm
> > > trying to locate any information about Dutchy
> > Clark. According to the
> > > census records for Eliza, Lydia, Lida Jane Clark
> > Wilson her father was
> > born
> > > in Indiana. I do not find a Dutchy Clark in any
> > census records. Dutchy
> > > may be a nickname, but that is unconfirmed. I
> > know that he died in a
> > > swimming accident about 1909. Dutchy and Caroline
> > had one other daughter,
> > > Bertha May. She was born in 1879. He was known to
> > have owned a livery
> > > stable and saloon in the town square of
> > Indianapolis. There is an
> > Elliott
> > > D Clark (same age) who shows up in the 1880 census
> > living with a livery
> > > stable owner by the name of John W Kolyer. This
> > Kolyer is in New York in
> > > the 1920 census. Elliott Clark married Callie
> > Miller (this could be
> > > Caroline Hancock as she was married before) in
> > 1878. He married second to
> > > Elizabeth Higdon in 1885, and third to Mary A
> > Pedigo in 1907. All
> > > marriages were in Marion Co Indiana. Elliott D
> > Clark also died in the
> > > Indianapolis area during the same time period as
> > the Dutchy Clark. He is
> > > found in Crown Hill Cemetery. Could Dutchy Clark
> > be Elliot D Clark? Is
> > > Callie Miller Caroline Hancock? Does anyone have
> > any information about
> > > this illusive man? Jeannine from Indy
> > >
> > >
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I am wondering if these Clarks may be connected to your family? One of them
married Mitilda Hendrson, daughter of Jonathan Henderson and Anna Jane
Louderback.
Was Benjamin CLARK b abt 1790 the father of:
Samuel CLARK b 1810 TN, m. 1831 Louisa Tommason, Fayette Co, IN
William CLARK b 1811 TN m. 1835 Sarah Abrams, Fayette Co, IN
Joseph CLARk b 1813 TN m. 1838 Mitilda Henderson, Fayette Co, IN
Patti
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fay Clark" <gmcflc(a)ethixs.com>
To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
> Donna & All,
>
> I just found an old message from Donna regarding the children of Thomas
> Clark. Please scan and note the mention of Baptiste Clark, then read on--
>
> <snip>
>
> <<James was b. ca 1776 in NC, m. Agnes Henderson, d. ca 1846 in Madison
> Co.,
> AR. He had 7 brothers: Thomas, John, Alexander, Benjamin, Samuel,
Stewart
> and William. He had two sisters: Deborah and Sarah (Sally). He and
Agnes
> had the following children:
>
> Baptiste Clark, b. ca 1803 KY, m. Elizabeth ?
> Sarah Clark, b. 1805, KY or TN, m. Charles Whiteley
> Richard Clark, b. 1807 TN, m. Eliz. Jane Grigg
> James Clark, b. 1808 TN, m. Matilda ?
> Thomas Clark, b. 1809 KY or TN, m. Nancy Combs
> Agnes Clark, b. 1814 TN, m. Richard Frazier
> Virginia Clark, b. 1819, TN m. Isaac Vaughan
> Henderson Clark, b. 1823 TN, m. Sarah Hester & (2) Hetha Wharton
>
> <<With the unusual name of Baptist(e) I am assuming that is a name passed
> down
> through the Clark family. I have reason to believe that this family came
> from PA through Cumberland Gap to the south.>> --end of message--
>
> Dr. Thomas Hamm, whose interest is Samuel Clark of Guilford Co, NC (son
> Thomas b. 1743 York Co, PA) has written the following regarding Baptist
> Clark:
>
> <<There appear to have been several men named Baptist Clark, and I
> think that they are connected with Samuel Clark who died in 1783.
> One of my finds of earlier this summer was a 1743 land warrant in
> what is now York Co., Pa., for a Baptist Clark. On the 1768 Rowan
> County, NC, tax list, a Baptist Clark is living with Samuel Clark
> (died 1783). Since he isn't in Samuel's will, I take it that he
> isn't a son. Perhaps he is a nephew or younger sibling. I don't
> think that he is the man in York Co. in 1743. But it's an unusual
> name, and may be useful in sorting out the earlier generations.>>
>
> Dr. Hamm has gone on to write that last summer he found and purchased a
1743
> land warrant for a Baptist Clark in Hanover Township, Lancaster Co, PA.
He
> says that Hanover Twp is in what became York Co in 1748 and it is where
> Samuel was living in 1749 when his son George was born, per George's
> Revolutionary pension statement. According to Dr. Hamm, this is right in
> the middle of a large Scots-Irish settlement. The following information
> came from Dr. Hamm's research:
>
> >Randolph Co, NC, 1790 Census
> >
> > 987 Bratton Robert 3 3 4
> > 988 Clark Joseph 1 1 6
> > 989 Clark Samuel 1
> > son of Thomas & Sarah Clark, young & single
> > 990 Clark Samuel, Jr. 2 2 6
> > Samuel E. Clark, the JR means he's the s/o Samuel I
> > 991 Clark Edward 2 1 6
> > 992 Clark Baptist 1 3 7
>
> Barbara Newsom Grigg, Randolph County, North Carolina Deed Abstracts,
Books
> 1 thru 5, 1779-1794 (Asheboro, N.C. 1979):
>
> p. 19. Bk. 2, p. 19. Oct. 23, 1782. State grant to John More, 400 acres
on
> Muddy Creek adj. Thomas Clark [s/o Samuel Clark I] & Baptiste Clark
>
> p. 56. Bk. 3, p. 252. Jan. 16,1788. Ben Rush & Ben Millikan, admrs. of
> estate of Crafford Rush, decd., to Abraham Woodward, 120 acres on Mountain
> Creek & Carraway waters. Wit: Baptis Clark, Robert Brattan
>
> p. 71, Bk. 4, p. 57. March 1, 1790. John Moore to Edward Clark [s/o
Samuel
> Clark I], 100 pds., 400 acres on Muddy Creek adj. Thomas Clark [s/o Samuel
> Clark I] & Baptist Clark. Wit: John Clark [s/o Samuel Clark I], William
> Bell.
>
> p. 87. Bk. 5, p. 74. Aug. 28, 1793. Raveal Stafford of Randolph Co. to
> Joanthan (sic) Parker of Guilford Co., tract on Deep River, formerly
> property of Jacob Skean. Wit: George Irwin, Baptist Clark.
>
> Jo White Linn, Rowan County, North Carolina, Tax Lists, 1757-1800 (1995).
>
> 1768, William Millikan's List.
> p. 97. Saml Clark
> Son Edward
> Saml
> George
> John Fleck
> Baptis Clark 6 polls
>
> BTW, Gerald Johnston mentioned also the FRAZIER surname, which is linked
to
> the CLARKs in Randolph Co, NC.
>
> Fay Clark
>
>
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=gmcflc&I11.x=37&I11.y=2
>
> Researching the families of Otter Creek in Wayne County, Kentucky:
ADKINS,
> BARGAR, BELL, BLEVINS, BOWEN, CLARK, DAVIS, FIELDS, GUFFEY, HANCOCK,
HARMON,
> HICKS, HOWARD, JEFFRIES, MASSENGALE, NEAL, PATTON, PROVINCE, SLAGLE,
SMITH,
> VICKERY/VICKREY/VICKORY, WALDEN/WALLEN, WILEY, WILLIAMS and their KIN.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna" <ladylv56(a)mchsi.com>
> To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
>
>
> > Jerry,
> >
> > My gr. gr. gr. grandfather, James Clark, whom I THOUGHT was the son of
> > Thomas and Sarah Clark and grandson of Richard and Elizabeth Bohannan
> Clark,
> > had seven brothers and 2 sisters: Stewart Clark, Thomas Clark, John
> Clark,
> > Benjamin Clark, Samuel Clark, William Clark, Alexander Clark, Deborah
> Clark,
> > and Sarah Clark. Sarah Clark I have as b. ca 1778 in NC. I don't have
a
> > record of whom Sarah married, could have been your John Johnston, I
don't
> > know. I do know that James went from NC to area around Pulaski Co., KY
> and
> > to Warren Co., TN and then ended up in Madison Co., AR. My parents
ended
> up
> > in McDonald Co., MO where I was born. Winnifred Bell Clark Miller was
my
> > mother's name. Her father was Thomas Gifford Clark, son of Richard
Clark
> > and grandson of my James Clark. Between all of us we should be able to
> put
> > this puzzle together.
> >
> > Donna Miller Brown
> > ladylv56(a)mchsi.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gerald Johnston" <gerald.h.johnston(a)worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Richard Clarke/Thomas Clarke & MORE!!!
> >
> >
> > > Okay - I am going to through another wrench in the works!
> > >
> > > I thought I had finally found the parents of my Sarah Jane Clark
> Johnston,
> > > b. 1774, in NC; married John Johnston, b. 1779; in Orange Co., NC,
1797.
> > >
> > > I thought she was the Sarah shown in many Rootsweb.com records to be
> born
> > in
> > > about 1786, and earlier estimations.
> > >
> > > I am NOT convinced that she is not the daughter of either Thomas or
> > possibly
> > > Richard and Elizabeth.
> > >
> > > Let me explain; my Sarah and John Johnston moved to Second Creek, in
> > > Lauderdale Co., AL and Warren Co., TN area. From there, John moved
with
> > his
> > > sons to Madison Co., AR. The sons went on to Benton Co. AR and
McDonald
> > > Co., MO and environs.
> > >
> > > John and Sarah Clark Johnstons' 4 known children were: John Clark
> > Johnston,
> > > Samuel Carter Johnston, Elizabeth B. Johnston, and William King
> Johnston.
> > >
> > > John Clark Johnston's oldest son was Thomas Clark Johnston.
> > >
> > > Elizabeth B. Johnston, who married a Wm. Johnson (it should never have
> > been
> > > allowed!!!) is speculated, due to difficult penmanship deciphering, to
> > have
> > > been Elizabeth Bowles/Balds/Bowman Johnston. I am wondering if it
might
> > > instead be Elizabeth Bohannon Johnston???
> > >
> > > So; was my Sarah the child of Thomas Clark and an earlier wife than
Jane
> > > Ford? Or, could she even be a daughter of Richard and Elizabeth
Clark,
> or
> > > even Richard and his second wife, Sarah???
> > >
> > > This really is a conundrum!!!
> > >
> > > I know she is related to the same group of Clarks; along with the
> > Springer,
> > > Frazier, Johnson, Coombs, and other allied families that moved across
> > > country.
> > >
> > > Let me know what you all think.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Jerry Johnston
> > > Scottsdale, AZ
> > >
> > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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I am still trying to surmount my brick wall = that of Benjamin Franklin
Clark. He is one of those southern CLarks with possible roots in NC.
He was born in 1857 Mobile, Ala., married to Mary Susan Rogers in
Manatee Co., Fla, 1881.
It is speculated that his father was possibly John, b/1796 in NC
subsequently moving to Miss.,( according to Wayne Co., Miss.1850 census).
He married a unk Delaney, b/SC. They had 13 children, ages 19-1 yr old,
all born in Miss except Benjamin F. (according to the census).
I have been researching this line for some time, up and down blind allies
and some wild goose chases. I just recently found the possible connection
to John, but nothing to go on other than a little sister , Adelaide, who
died in Shubuta, Ms. circa 1925. She is the only proven connection I
have to a father, named John, and a brother Benjamin Franklin Clark.
Any help appreciated.
Billie M. Sweat whispval(a)netxpress.com
I have CLARKS who came from TN to Fayette, Henry and Hancock Co, IN and then
on to Harrison Co, MO. I have an Eliza Jane Clark but she married Hammack.
I might find "Dutchy" when you figure out his real name. These Clarks are
hard to follow.
Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen
Portland, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeannine Bristow" <jbristow(a)wolftechnical.com>
To: <CLARKE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:30 AM
Subject: [Clarke-Clark] Elliott D Clark, Dutchy Clark, Marion Co IN
> This is my brick wall! Hope you can follow:
>
> My ggrandmother was Eliza, Lydia, Lida Jane Clark. Her parents were
Dutchy
> Clark (dob abt 1856) and Caroline Hancock. Eliza's birth records and
> marriage records can be found in Marion Co Indiana. Her dob is
> 5/28/1883. Her marriage to Alfred Richard Wilson was on 12/24/1899. I'm
> trying to locate any information about Dutchy Clark. According to the
> census records for Eliza, Lydia, Lida Jane Clark Wilson her father was
born
> in Indiana. I do not find a Dutchy Clark in any census records. Dutchy
> may be a nickname, but that is unconfirmed. I know that he died in a
> swimming accident about 1909. Dutchy and Caroline had one other daughter,
> Bertha May. She was born in 1879. He was known to have owned a livery
> stable and saloon in the town square of Indianapolis. There is an
Elliott
> D Clark (same age) who shows up in the 1880 census living with a livery
> stable owner by the name of John W Kolyer. This Kolyer is in New York in
> the 1920 census. Elliott Clark married Callie Miller (this could be
> Caroline Hancock as she was married before) in 1878. He married second to
> Elizabeth Higdon in 1885, and third to Mary A Pedigo in 1907. All
> marriages were in Marion Co Indiana. Elliott D Clark also died in the
> Indianapolis area during the same time period as the Dutchy Clark. He is
> found in Crown Hill Cemetery. Could Dutchy Clark be Elliot D Clark? Is
> Callie Miller Caroline Hancock? Does anyone have any information about
> this illusive man? Jeannine from Indy
>
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Hi Mitzi,
Isn't this exciting!!!
I wish all of the male Clarks on this list would join the study. I
would REALLY love it if some descendants of Elizabeth Sevier and William
H. Clark, or any from his second wife, Ruth Gordon or Godwin, would join.
This past Saturday, I ordered the 25-marker test on my brother, William
Perry Clark.
Which ones of yours came back?
I don't know when they are going to post my brother's information. He's
the one who matched Charlie Clark, No. 4989.
I'm excited for you.
Best wishes,
Sharon Clark
Fort Worth, TX
clarksha(a)swbell.net
I am trying to find a STEPHEN CLARK (and his family before him) who may have been from Ohio. He married a HORNBACK (Martha I think) on 26 February 1852 in Menard Cty, IL. He had a son WILLIAM HENRY CLARK in Dec of 1852. Then in 1860 census William is living with his Hornback grandparents. We think Stephen married in 1856 to EMILY J. FERGUSON and had daughters LAURA J. CLARK and IDA L. CLARK.
His son WILLIAM (my gr grandfather) had sons: WILLIAM EDMOND CLARK (my grandfather), ROY C. CLARK, HARRY CLARK, and daughters MAY CLARK (married a ROBERTS) and KATE CLARK (married a KECK). These Clarks were from Indiana and Illinois.
Hi Groups,
More Clark results came back from FTDNA today. Our second Clark testee had
a perfect match with the first Clark testee in our line on the 12 marker
test. On the 25 markers, there was one difference which was on allele 458.
One had 16; the other had a value of 17.
A 24/25 result on the test (same surname) is considered a match with a
mutation.
The two Clarks above are from my father's generation. Their earliest known
ancestor is Eli Clark who was born cir 1775 in either GA or NC. ELi was in
Burke Co. GA by 1807.
The Clark with the value of 16 on marker 458 is the descendant of Eli's
oldest son, Eli Robert. The Clark with the value of 17 is descended from
Eli's younger son, Christopher. So the men's MCR ancestor is their great,
great grandfather, Eli, four generations back if I'm counting right.
I'm anxious for other Clarks to be tested so we can see which value for #458
is the mutation.
At this time, no other Clarks in the Clark DNA study have had the 25 marker
test, but one who matches several people 11/12 is going to upgrade to it.
Hopefully, we will soon find matches beyond our paper trail.
Just wanted to share my excitement and encourage others to participate.
Regards,
Mitzi Clark Bateman