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Marge: If you are looking for the Wm. Clark of the Lewis and Clark
exploration then you should perhaps start in VA. That Wm. Clark was
born 1770 Caroline Co., VA and was the younger brother of George Rogers
Clark b. 1752 VA and lived in KY at the beginning of the Rev. War.
There is faction of researchers who have attempted to tie the Clark's of
Hadam, CT and the Lee's of VA. Samuel Clark b. 1757 (5th generation
down from Wm. Clark of Haddam) m. Mary Lee b. 1760 CT There is no
evidence to support the claim that Mary Lee was connected to the Lee's
of VA. and to date there is no evidence that connects this Lee family
to Gen. Robert E. Lee or his ancestors.
There is no evidence that the Wm. Clark of the Lewis and Clark
exploration was part of the Clark of CT family.
Good luck in your search.
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Hi, Jane.
I am really confused. The William Clark that I am supposed to be a
descendant of is THE William Clark of the Lewis & Clark Expedition. He
would be in the 1800's. We have some Clarks in our family tree that I have
found, but they were in New England, whereas William Clark was farther
south. I just can't put them together. Is this the right place to look?
Thanks.
Marge Langdon (marge_langdon(a)hotmail.com)
>From: JaneDevlin(a)netquest.com (Devlin, Jane)
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>To: CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: LEE family of Middletown
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:00:54 -0400
>
>
> > I have been getting a lot of mail concerning the Lee family of
>Middle-town.
> > I am not sure whether this is the Lee family I am connected to or not.
>The
>
>Marge, one of the reasons for a lot of mail recently on the LEE
>family is an active group of researchers on this list who descend
>from the various children of Samuel CLARK ( 3x great grandson of
>the original William CLARK of Haddam ) and his wife Mary LEE.
>The LEE family originated with Edward LEE who settled in Guilford,
>CT in the 1600s. I haven't tried to follow the LEEs past Mary who
>was born in 1760 in CT and died in 1844 in Elba Twp., Genesee
>Co., NY, but perhaps some other list members can help you.
>
>William CLARK's children married into a number of Haddam &
>Middletown families in the 1600's and these will hopefully all be
>discussed at one time or another on this list as we attempt to
>unravel the various family connections. In my case, William's son
>Joseph married Ruth SPENCER, daughter of Gerard SPENCER;
>grandson William [b. abt 1675] married Mary DAY, daughter of
>John DAY & Mary GAYLORD; the next generation, Pelitah CLARK
>married Anna SUTLIFF, tying me to the SUTLIFF & SAVAGE lines -
>and so on.. The CLARK line is one of my longest, running from the
>first William, born abt 1625, on down to my great great
>grandmother, Julia Ann CLARK, who was born in 1815.
>
>Jane
>
>
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>Please let me know if there are any questions or if I can help in any way.
>Jane Devlin, list mom JaneDevlin(a)netquest.com
>
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Hi, Jane.
I am really confused. The William Clark that I am supposed to be a
descendant of is THE William Clark of the Lewis & Clark Expedition. He
would be in the 1800's. We have some Clarks in our family tree that I have
found, but they were in New England, whereas William Clark was farther
south. I just can't put them together. Is this the right place to look?
Thanks.
Marge Langdon (marge_langdon(a)hotmail.com)
>From: JaneDevlin(a)netquest.com (Devlin, Jane)
>Reply-To: CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: LEE family of Middletown
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:00:54 -0400
>
>
> > I have been getting a lot of mail concerning the Lee family of
>Middle-town.
> > I am not sure whether this is the Lee family I am connected to or not.
>The
>
>Marge, one of the reasons for a lot of mail recently on the LEE
>family is an active group of researchers on this list who descend
>from the various children of Samuel CLARK ( 3x great grandson of
>the original William CLARK of Haddam ) and his wife Mary LEE.
>The LEE family originated with Edward LEE who settled in Guilford,
>CT in the 1600s. I haven't tried to follow the LEEs past Mary who
>was born in 1760 in CT and died in 1844 in Elba Twp., Genesee
>Co., NY, but perhaps some other list members can help you.
>
>William CLARK's children married into a number of Haddam &
>Middletown families in the 1600's and these will hopefully all be
>discussed at one time or another on this list as we attempt to
>unravel the various family connections. In my case, William's son
>Joseph married Ruth SPENCER, daughter of Gerard SPENCER;
>grandson William [b. abt 1675] married Mary DAY, daughter of
>John DAY & Mary GAYLORD; the next generation, Pelitah CLARK
>married Anna SUTLIFF, tying me to the SUTLIFF & SAVAGE lines -
>and so on.. The CLARK line is one of my longest, running from the
>first William, born abt 1625, on down to my great great
>grandmother, Julia Ann CLARK, who was born in 1815.
>
>Jane
>
>
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>Please let me know if there are any questions or if I can help in any way.
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> I have been getting a lot of mail concerning the Lee family of Middle-town.
> I am not sure whether this is the Lee family I am connected to or not. The
Marge, one of the reasons for a lot of mail recently on the LEE
family is an active group of researchers on this list who descend
from the various children of Samuel CLARK ( 3x great grandson of
the original William CLARK of Haddam ) and his wife Mary LEE.
The LEE family originated with Edward LEE who settled in Guilford,
CT in the 1600s. I haven't tried to follow the LEEs past Mary who
was born in 1760 in CT and died in 1844 in Elba Twp., Genesee
Co., NY, but perhaps some other list members can help you.
William CLARK's children married into a number of Haddam &
Middletown families in the 1600's and these will hopefully all be
discussed at one time or another on this list as we attempt to
unravel the various family connections. In my case, William's son
Joseph married Ruth SPENCER, daughter of Gerard SPENCER;
grandson William [b. abt 1675] married Mary DAY, daughter of
John DAY & Mary GAYLORD; the next generation, Pelitah CLARK
married Anna SUTLIFF, tying me to the SUTLIFF & SAVAGE lines -
and so on.. The CLARK line is one of my longest, running from the
first William, born abt 1625, on down to my great great
grandmother, Julia Ann CLARK, who was born in 1815.
Jane
Hi.
I have been getting a lot of mail concerning the Lee family of Middle-town.
I am not sure whether this is the Lee family I am connected to or not. The
name in my family is Dr. George Hyde Lee. He married Alice Amelia Smith who
was born in 1849. George Lee was born on Nov. 26, 1849, and grew up on a
farm in Mantua, Ohio. His parents were Rev. Samuel Lee & his wife, Susan.
George moved to Washington D.C.& practiced medicine from 1881-1893 there.
Children were Colton Hyde Lee, Henry Holbrook Lee, & Frederick Cobb Lee.
Perhaps you could let me know if this is the right family.
Thanks.
Marge Langdon (marge_langdon(a)hotmail.com)
>From: nrvogt(a)webtv.net (Nancy Vogt)
>Reply-To: CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: LEE family of Middletown
>Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:30:43 -0500 (CDT)
>
>My Lee researcher source from 1998 also stated "Lemuel Lee (shown as
>dying young) is alive and healthy in the early 1800's attending church
>in Middletown (Fairhaven Church), having children etc."
>Also "if you look at Lemuel 2 (son of Lemuel) he is with Abijah in the
>Middletown area". End of quote. Seems this might be Lemuel son of
>Abijah instead of son of Lemuel? Any census listing for Lemuel or
>Abijah 1790, 1800?
>
>The LDS Index gives a relative Alma Austin Callahan as a source for
>birthdate of Abijah 08 April 1733. Barbour Vol 2 , page 280 (F1452
>pt.45) is listed as source for marriage date of 16 April 1752 for Abijah
>Lee and Abiel Smith. No parents are given.
>
>"Abijah Lee and Abiel Smith were married at Chatham, CT (now
>Portland/Hampton) by Rev. Benjamin Bowers 28 May 1752"
>End of quotes. No Church mentioned.
>This seems to conflict with Barbour Vol 2, Page 280 which shows 16 April
>1752 for the marriage.
>
>First born daughter of Abijah, Amie/Amy/Ame/ m. Caleb Strong 27 March
>1669/70 in the Fairhaven church mentioned above, but wouldn't help in
>finding the father of Abijah.
>
>Lemuel Lee of Middletown gave bond with Hannah West, widow of Benjamin
>in 1733-4 in the matter of Abigail West, a minor who chose her mother as
>guardian so he had moved from Guilford, CT by then.
>
>Nancy
>
>
>
>
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>Please let me know if there are any questions or if I can help in any way.
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>
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This data comes from A Catalogue of the Names of the First
Puritan Settlers of the Colony of Connecticut. Hartford, CT: - ,
1846. - which is a free database at Ancestry.Com for the next 6
days or so.
Clark, William, Hartford, 1642, land holder, hired servant in '39.
Bunce, Thomas, of Hartford--wife, Sarah--died in 1683. Children,
John, Elizabeth White, Thomas, jr. Estate £1024:3. He gave his
son John his house, barn and home lot in Hartford, which he
purchased of Thomas Gridley, and 40 acres near Wethersfield line,
also his right in a saw-mill built by Mr. Gardner, Stephen Hosmer
and himself; also, 16 acres in the south meadow; also, a lot near
Mr. Websters. To Elizabeth he gave £20. He left a legacy to each
of his grand children; also, to his cousin, Elizabeth White £; to his
sister, Katherine Clark, £10; he also provided liberally for his wife,
Sarah. To his son, Thomas, jr., he gave, after the death of his wife,
all his housing and lands, not disposed of before, and made his
son Thomas, executor of his will. (See p. 16.)
Handwriting from the 1700's was difficult to read as those who have
looked at any original records will attest. Spellings of names were
quite varied also (perhaps
due to the education or lack thereof of the person who entered the
names.
Michael has noted previously that Abial/Abiel is a male name. If we
switch sexes for both Abiel (male) married Abigail (female) with birth
date of 8 April 1733 then we have "her" death listed as 16 Dec 1749 (age
16) and "she" would not have been the parent of all of the children.
In regard to Abial/Abiel/Smith the typed transcription entry is as
follows from the Barbour Collection:
Midd. Vital Records Vol 1 page 39
Bial Smith d. of Jonathan and Dorothy b. 4 Sep. 1731
Marriage entry
Abial Smith m. Abijah Lee 16 April 1752
notation on card ?Abigail". See also "Bial". (Morman Church entry is
Abiel).
Spelling for all the listings of the birth of the children list Abijah
and AbiEl.
Confusing. Anyone else have thoughts on the subject?
I have looked at the Barbour record on Microfilm at the WI St. Hist.
Soc. Lib.
There are 81 microfilm reels filmed in Aug 1949 in the CT Library from
the Lucius Albert Barbour Collection of CT. They are individual
typewritten cards in alphabetical order.
The entry for "Abigail" Lee reads as follows:
Lee, Abigail s. *Lemuel and Maryb. 8 April 1733 *Samuel? Midd. VR
It is clearly labed s. (son) in this entry.
The entry for Lee, Lemuel son of *Lemuel and Mary b. 11 May 1729 has the
same notation : *Samuel? Midd. VR
Lee, Mary wife of Lemuel d. 3 March 1719
Guilford VR
(Presumably this would be Mary Burnett)
Lee, Mary wife of Lemuel d. 13 Jan 1752 Midd. VR (Presumably 2nd wife
Mary West)
?Correction?
Lee, Lucretia d. of Abijah and ABIGAIL b. 5 June 1766. I have her
listed as a child of Abijah and Abiel.
All of the other entries for the children of Abijah and Abiel are listed
with the dates that I have with the exception of:
Lee, Lemuel s. of Abijah and Abiel b. Aug 30, 1756. (I had 1755 in my
records)
Nancy
My Lee researcher source from 1998 also stated "Lemuel Lee (shown as
dying young) is alive and healthy in the early 1800's attending church
in Middletown (Fairhaven Church), having children etc."
Also "if you look at Lemuel 2 (son of Lemuel) he is with Abijah in the
Middletown area". End of quote. Seems this might be Lemuel son of
Abijah instead of son of Lemuel? Any census listing for Lemuel or
Abijah 1790, 1800?
The LDS Index gives a relative Alma Austin Callahan as a source for
birthdate of Abijah 08 April 1733. Barbour Vol 2 , page 280 (F1452
pt.45) is listed as source for marriage date of 16 April 1752 for Abijah
Lee and Abiel Smith. No parents are given.
"Abijah Lee and Abiel Smith were married at Chatham, CT (now
Portland/Hampton) by Rev. Benjamin Bowers 28 May 1752"
End of quotes. No Church mentioned.
This seems to conflict with Barbour Vol 2, Page 280 which shows 16 April
1752 for the marriage.
First born daughter of Abijah, Amie/Amy/Ame/ m. Caleb Strong 27 March
1669/70 in the Fairhaven church mentioned above, but wouldn't help in
finding the father of Abijah.
Lemuel Lee of Middletown gave bond with Hannah West, widow of Benjamin
in 1733-4 in the matter of Abigail West, a minor who chose her mother as
guardian so he had moved from Guilford, CT by then.
Nancy
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I have a note from another Lee researcher who claims she has looked at
the Barbour record for "Abigail" Lee who is listed as a SON for the
birth date of 8 April 1733. I don't know first hand if this is correct.
I have also a reprint of "Descendants of Edward & John Lee of Guilford,
CT" Hon. Ralph D. Smith and communicated by Dr. Bernard C. Steiner of
Baltimore. It is interesting to note that he has "killed off" all but
one child of Lemuel Lee and Mary West (and that one, Mary, has no death
date). Anna, he claims d. 15 Dec.1746 age 23/24, Mindwell d.16 June,
1743 age 17, Lemuel d. Dec., 1746 age 17 "Abigail" d. 16 Dec 1749 age 16
and Lewis (Levi?) d. 14 Dec. 1746 age 12.
Obviously there is some erroneous information available in printed form
as well.
Nancy Vogt
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Jane,
I am in the process of cleaning out some long overdue email messages. I
just reread this and had a thought. Perhaps they did read the name wrong
but if so they also changed the sex of the child. Could it be possible that
there were twins? Abigail and Abijah? I have no information of this, just
this question
Bob Letson
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Subject: LEE family of Middletown
>
> I found the following transcriptions today from the Barbour
> Collection, reprinted in The Connecticut Nutmegger, Vol 24, No. 1,
> June 1991, p. 88-89; Births - Town of Middletown:
>
> LEE, Abigail, dau of Lemuel/Samuel & Mary, b. 8 Apr 1733
>
> [note: this is the date we have for the birth of Abijah LEE - was his
> name misread & transcribed as Abigail? I have notes that this
> same information is found an article from NEHGR reprinted on the
> Genealogies of Connecticut Families CD, and Families of Early
> Guilford.]
>
> LEE, Levi, son of Lemuel/Samuel & Mary, b. 23 July 1739; d. 14
> Dec 1746
>
> LEE, Abijah, s. of Abijah & Abiel/Abigail, b. 20 Aug 1764
>
> LEE, Abner, son of Abijah & Abiel, b. 20 Feb 1759
>
> LEE, Ame, dau of Abijah & Abiel, b. 13 Jan 1753
>
> LEE, Hannah, dau. of Abijah & Abiel, b. 12 Nov 1754
>
> LEE, Lemuel, son of Abijah & Abiel, b. 30 Aug 1756
>
> LEE, Lucretia, dau. of Abijah & Abigail, b. Jun 5, 1766
>
> LEE, Mary, dau of Abijah & Abiel, b. 17 Dec 1760
>
> LEE, William Henry, s. of Abijah & Abiel, b. 22 Oct 1762
>
>
> Jane
>
>
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Jane,
I am in the process of cleaning out some long overdue email messages. I
just reread this and had a thought. Perhaps they did read the name wrong
but if so they also changed the sex of the child. Could it be possible that
there were twins? Abigail and Abijah? I have no information of this, just
this question
Bob Letson
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To: <CLARK-WM-HADDAM-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 10:27 PM
Subject: LEE family of Middletown
>
> I found the following transcriptions today from the Barbour
> Collection, reprinted in The Connecticut Nutmegger, Vol 24, No. 1,
> June 1991, p. 88-89; Births - Town of Middletown:
>
> LEE, Abigail, dau of Lemuel/Samuel & Mary, b. 8 Apr 1733
>
> [note: this is the date we have for the birth of Abijah LEE - was his
> name misread & transcribed as Abigail? I have notes that this
> same information is found an article from NEHGR reprinted on the
> Genealogies of Connecticut Families CD, and Families of Early
> Guilford.]
>
> LEE, Levi, son of Lemuel/Samuel & Mary, b. 23 July 1739; d. 14
> Dec 1746
>
> LEE, Abijah, s. of Abijah & Abiel/Abigail, b. 20 Aug 1764
>
> LEE, Abner, son of Abijah & Abiel, b. 20 Feb 1759
>
> LEE, Ame, dau of Abijah & Abiel, b. 13 Jan 1753
>
> LEE, Hannah, dau. of Abijah & Abiel, b. 12 Nov 1754
>
> LEE, Lemuel, son of Abijah & Abiel, b. 30 Aug 1756
>
> LEE, Lucretia, dau. of Abijah & Abigail, b. Jun 5, 1766
>
> LEE, Mary, dau of Abijah & Abiel, b. 17 Dec 1760
>
> LEE, William Henry, s. of Abijah & Abiel, b. 22 Oct 1762
>
>
> Jane
>
>
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I have copied an index to sources mentioning William Clark and William
Clarke. If anyone on the list has access to the sources mentioned
perhaps you would be good enough to fill in the details.
1.The first listing is the author and the name of the publication 2.
Name of Passenger. 3. Age (if given) 4. Place of arrival. 5. Year of
Arrival. 6. Page number on which this name is listed.
One: Hotten "The original lists of persons of quality".
Wm. Clark age 19, Barbados, 1635, p 74
Wm. Clark age 27, Virginia, 1635 p. 79
Wm. Clark, age 18, Virginia, 1635 p. 84
Wm. Clark , age 1, Virginia, 1635 p. 113
Two: Tepper, "Passengers to America"
Wm. Clark, 27, Virginia, 1635, p. 84
Wm. Clark, 19, Virginia, 1635 p. 87
Wm. Clark, 1, Virginia, 1635 p. 94
Next are all listing with the spelling William Clarke.
One: Bristol "and America"
Wm. Clarke, age not given, America, between 1654-1663, page 30
Wm. Clarke, age not given, Barbados, between 1654-1663 page 64 and also
p68
Wm. Clarke,age not given, Barbados, 1663-1679, page 113
Two: Banks "The Winthrop Fleet of 1630"
Wm. Clarke, age not given, Mass. 1630, Wife: Elizabeth, age not given,
page 64
Three: Banks "The Planters of the Commonwealth"
Wm. Clarke, age not given, Salem, Mass.
1630 p. 69
Wm. Clarke, age not given, Mass. 1633-34, page 111
Four: Banks "Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants"
Wm. Clarke, no age given, New England, 1620-1650, page 109
Wm. Clark, no age given, New England
1620-1650, page 122.
Five: Boyer "Ship Passenger Lists National and New England"
Wm. Clarke, age 19 New England, 1635
Wife Sarah, no age given, Son William, age 1 yr., page 138
Wm. Clarke, age 27, Virginia, 1635, p. 138
Wm. Clarke, no age given, Boston, Mass. 1630, Wife Clara Elizabeth,no
age given, page 140
Wm. Clarke, no age given, New England, 1633, page 144
Six: Cook "Fenwick, Adams Hedge and Champneys of Salem, NJ
Wm. Clarke, no age given, Virginia, 1623, page 185
Seven: Greer "Early Virginia Immigrants 1623-1666.
Wm.Clarke, no age given, 1637, Virginia, page 67
Wm. Clarke, no age given, 1653, Virginia, page 68
Wm. Clarke, no age given 1654, Virginia, page 68
Wm. Clarke, no age given, Virginia, 1655 page 68
Eight: Gwynn "Documents Relating to the Irish in the West Indies"
Wm. Clarke, age 25, Virginia, 1623, page 166
Nine: Hotten "The Original Lists of Persons of Quality"
Wm. Clarke, age 20, St. Christopher, 1634, page 153
Wm. Clarke, no age given, Virginia,1623, page 186
Wm. Clarke, age 25, Virginia, 1624, page 243
Wm. Clarke, age 20, Virginia, 1624, page 256
Ten: Jester & Hiden "Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia"
Wm. Clarke, age 25, Virginia, 1623, page 48
Wm. Clarke, age 20, Virginia, 1623, page 61
Eleven: Tepper "Passengers to America"
Wm. Clarke, age 20, St. Christopher, 1633, page 52
Wm. Clarke, age 19, Barbados, 1635, page 65
Wm. Clarke, no age given, New England, 1633, page 75
Wm. Clarke, age 27, Mass., 1635, page 108
Wm Clarke, age 19, Mass. 1635, page 108.
End of Listings for the 1600's for Wm. Clark and Wm. Clarke.
Nancy Vogt
I am looking for the death date of Levere Clark who died around 1920 in
New York city. He was a pattern maker. His wife married name was
Lucinda Doggett Clark who was born in New York City around 1848. Three
daughters: Clara Louise Clark artist b.1880:
Florence Ethel Clark b. 1885, secretary on Wall St. when young: Bessie
Clark b. 1889, worked in telephone co when young.
I also would like to know who Clarissa Seacore Lyvere was. She was
married to John Lyvere: Buried in St. Peter's Church cemetery in
Westchester---on Westchester Ave. in 1881. They are all good Huguenot
names and I hope someone can help me. I can share what I have on the
family with you. Thanks, Aud