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Author: Allyn271
Surnames: Clancy, Moffitt, Hart, Shea, Healy
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Well, your version is fairly accurate, but needs just a bit of tweeking. Baby Catharine died at Lislary on 13 Nov. 1879, of heart disease. My grandmother was the second Catharine in the family, born here 1885.
I have never been able to verify the emigration date/s of the three brothers; best guestimate would be 1870. John was married here in June of 1871. Michael was a witness at a Hart wedding here in February 1871. Thomas was a brakeman on the Atlantic and Great Western Railroad in June of 1872 when he was involved in a minor railroad accident, and was still here in February of 1873 when he was fined for disorderly conduct in downtown Meadville. However, he returned to Ireland between 1873 and 1874, and married at Grange in 1875. He stayed in Ireland another five years, returning to the US with wife Bridget and small son Patrick, arriving at the port of New York, from Liverpool, on 26 April 1880, ship Britannic.
I did not have Patrick's children, so thank you for that information.
To muddy the waters, other Clancy family members came here, too. Catharine Clancy, sister of John Clancy (father of the four boys) was here in Meadville by 1860, as a single woman; by 1861 she was married to John Shea. At Catherine's death, her survivors were listed as dau. Johanna DeVore, two nephews - Thomas Clancy and Patrick Hart - and a niece Catherine (Hart) Ryland
(wife of William Ryland). This would imply that Patrick Hart's mother was a Clancy. However, baptismal records from Sligo indicate that his parents apparently were Michael Hart and Mary Healy. Thomas Clancy's children called Patrick Hart "Uncle Hart;" they knew he was not their uncle but knew he was a relative. Something to ponder . . .
And distant relative John Clancy (born 17 March 1794, parish of Ahamlish, Co. Sligo,) and his wife Margaret Healy (born 10 Sept. 1798, Co. Leitrim) were in New York in the mid 1820's, and came to this area in the mid 1840's.
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Author: tpkennedy2000
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Could you check if this information is correct so far. Patrick Clancy married Dorothy Freel in 1809. Their son John Clancy of Lislary married Bridget Feeney in early 1840s. They had known family of 4 boys :- Thomas Clancy born 1850 who married Bridget Moffitt in Grange Chapel on 17 January 1875. They had two children born in Lislary, Patrick Clancy born 12 November 1875 and Catherine Clancy born 27 October 1877. Only one child (Patrick) emigrated with them to PA about 1880 so I take it that Catherine died an infant. They are your direct ancestors ? Two other sons of John and Bridget also emigrated to PA. ( Their names are John and Michael Clancy). I take it that those three sons (Thomas, John, Michael) never saw their parents or their native land again. The 4th son, Patrick Clancy (Bd. 30 January 1842) stayed in Lislary, married Honor Heraghty on 04 March 1867. Patrick and Honor had 4 known children :- John Glancy born 09 January 1868. Michael Glancy born 18 May 1869. Brid!
get Glancy born 22 November 1870. Anne Clancy born 09 September 1874.
Hopefully this will check out with you as correct. Next I will try and find out what became of those 4 Clancys last mentioned (ie. John, Michael, Bridget and Anne.). Its a real puzzle trying to sort this out. There may well be a link between them and my Clancys/Glancys of Breaghwy and Lislary.
When I'm back in Dublin this coming winter I must go into the National Archives and look up the Lislary Clancys there, that is if they are there. You mentioned something about the Bishop of Elphin refusing to allow the records to be viewed. I think Christy Jones is still bishop there. I could get on to him and see what the story is. I only started on my Clancy genealogy last June when I should have started about 35 years ago. However we will see where it takes us.
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Author: Allyn271
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You are correct, the grandfather of Patrick and the other three boys was also Patrick Clancy (son of John Clancy). He married, in 1809 (actual date is questionable, have seen both 2 Feb. 1809 and 9 Dec. 1809), Dorothy Freel (dau. of John Freel) - 4th degree of consanguinity, but haven't been able to go back far enough to figure that one out. It is very frustrating not to have access to RC records from this area, but I understand the priest/bishop refused to allow the records to be microfilmed.
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Author: tpkennedy2000
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I will see if I can find out anything more about Patrick Clancy. He most like inherited the plot of land from his father in Lislary. Capt. James Jones was the landlord of that area about that time. As Patrick was the oldest son he would almost certainly have been called after his paternal grandfather. In Ireland in those days and up to recently, the first male child of the oldest son was always given the name of his grandfather. In my case from me it goes Tadhg(Thady) to John to Thady to John.
I cannot go back any further but I know that the next one back is Thady Kennedy.
The Clancys as you probably know come from Co. Leitrim, originally MacLannchadh then MacClanchy then Clancy and Glancy. They were traditionally allied to O'Rourke of Breffny (Co. Leitrim). In 1588 three ships from the Spanish Armada were wrecked on Streedagh Strand, not far from Breaghwy and Lislary. Over 1000 spaniards drowned or were killed by the English. Capt. Cuellar and some others made their way to McClancys dun or castle. Cuellar gives a very interesting account of life at that time. You can Google up the Spanish Armada. I dont know if Cuellars account is online.
Your ggrandmother's account is correct. The kelp she gathered is called carrigeen moss. (carrigeen means "little rock" in Irish). It was laid out in the field in the sun to bleach. When it had turned white, it was gathered up and boiled (I think). It was then squeezed through a cloth. The resulting white paste was let cool and then eaten. Very nutritious. There were probably different recipes for it also. Regards, Tadhg
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Author: Allyn271
Surnames: Clancy, Heraghty, Healy
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The brother who stayed in Ireland was Patrick Clancy, baptised 30 Jan. 1842. And yes, he seems to have been the oldest of the known four brothers. He married 4 March 1867, Honoria Heraghty, d/o Francis Heraghty and Anne Healy. I don't have any information about his children.
My great-grandmother told stories about collecting kelp as a young woman in Lislary. I gather you have to go through a process of bleaching the stuff in the sun.
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Author: tpkennedy2000
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Hi Karen, I am still interested in the information you have on James Clancy from Doonshaskin as my Clancys come from there and the nearby townlands of Breaghwy and Lislary. If there is any info I can pass on to you, I will gladly do so. You could email me direct : tpkennedy2000(a)hotmail.com . Thanks. Tadhg Kennedy
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Author: tpkennedy2000
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Hi Mickey, I'm not sure if your recent Aug post was also for me. It will be difficult for you to trace John Clancy from Sligo or Leitrim. There are loads of them. My mother was Bridget Clancy, her father was Thomas Clancy, his father was Michael Clancy and they are connected to a few John Clancys, some of them in Scotland. I'm having difficulty trying to sort them out and I originally come from Sligo. The records are scarce or non existant before the 1820s. Best wishes.
Tadhg Kennedy. tpkennedy2000(a)hotmail.com
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Author: tpkennedy2000
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Hi Annette, Just reading through some of your posts. The right to seaweed was important especially between 1840 and 1870. The Irish starved and died in those years and seaweed nourished many of them.They ate dillisk, carrigeen moss, crannac and slough (spellings vary) and combined with shellfish, it saved many of them. We all know now of the benefits of seaweed and no seaweed is poisoness. I ate it as a child a long, long time ago.
You mention 3 brothers who emigrated to PA. Do you happen to know the name of the one who stayed behind on the land holding (usually the oldest brother). Same email tpkennedy2000(a)hotmail.com. Best wishes. Tadhg Kennedy
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Author: clancy31186
Surnames: Clancy / Golden
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I am the one of 3 great grandsons of John and Delia Golden Clancy. The other are Terry (Tulsa, Okla) and Pat (deceased). My father is Patrick Clancy 3301 S Pittsburg, Tulsa Ok, a robust, clear headed 87 year old. dos not use computers but will speak with you at 918-743-1331. I can help you contact another great grandson. Tom Clancy, who is president of He is descended form Tom, of course.
I think Tom Patrick and John worked together in Pat's store in Sherman and Andrew. I have a 1908 picture of Pat and his baseball team.
You have the 12 siblings correct
John married Delia in Ireland and left with her brother Patrick Golden to establish themselves in the US. Delia refused to consummate the marriage until he brought her to the states.
Patrick Golden was in the Union Army. I have a picture of him when he was older wearing his medals.
Ettie married Roy Clark an oil driller. She, Roy, Pat, his wife Marie (my grandmother) and Charlie lived in tents, working the oilfields of Texas.
Charlie was a rough character who died when hit by a train in Springfield Illinois.
Many of the family is buried there.
My dad has a sister LaVerne (Clancy) Leigh, in Springfield
Laverne had 2 daughters Sandra and Linda (deceased)
Linda married Arne Puls of Springfield, Ill (Christopher/Erin/and a young boy whose name escapes be
Regards,
Tim Clancy
Tallahassee, FL
clancy311(a)comcast.net
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Author: clancy31186
Surnames: Clancy / Golden
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I am the one of 3 great grandsons of John and Delia Golden Clancy. The other are Terry (Tulsa, Okla) and Pat (deceased). My father is Patrick Clancy 3301 S Pittsburg, Tulsa Ok, a robust, clear headed 87 year old. dos not use computers but will speak with you at 918-743-1331. I can help you contact another great grandson. Tom Clancy, who is president of He is descended form Tom, of course.
I think Tom Patrick and John worked together in Pat's store in Sherman and Andrew. I have a 1908 picture of Pat and his baseball team.
You have the 12 siblings correct
John married Delia in Ireland and left with her brother Patrick Golden to establish themselves in the US. Delia refused to consummate the marriage until he brought her to the states.
Patrick Golden was in the Union Army. I have a picture of him when he was older wearing his medals.
Ettie married Roy Clark an oil driller. She, Roy, Pat, his wife Marie (my grandmother) and Charlie lived in tents, working the oilfields of Texas.
Charlie was a rough character who died when hit by a train in Springfield Illinois.
Many of the family is buried there.
My dad has a sister LaVerne (Clancy) Leigh, in Springfield
Laverne had 2 daughters Sandra and Linda (deceased)
Linda married Arne Puls of Springfield, Ill (Christopher/Erin/and a young boy whose name escapes be
Regards,
Tim Clancy
Tallahassee, FL
clancy311(a)comcast.net
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