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Author: MHead63
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Hi Geoff,
Thank you for all this information. I am amazed at this discovery.
I feel I may have to do a few amendments. Just goes to prove you can't believe all you find on the Internet that is posted there by other people.
Yes, please send me the the copies of the other certificates. That would be great.
I will email you at your adress if you dont mind It is on the first reply to my Wolvey query
Many thanks,
Marianne
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Author: geoffreyforrest1
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Hi Marianne,
I feel bad for not warning you, but you'd already ordered the certificate...
Joseph Clamp actually married Catharine FIELDS in Radford on 19 May 1841. The GRO index gives his name as Josiah, but the certificate itself clearly shows as Joseph. The GRO reference is Jun 1841 Radford Vol 15 Page 913. I can send you a copy of the certificate if you don't want to order another. It gives Joseph Clamp as of full age, widowed, lace maker. It also gives his father as John Clamp, Hosier.
Thomas Clamp also remarried (Mary HALL died in 1844). He married Mary BURN in Nottingham on 21 Nov 1851. Again, I can send you a copy of the certificate or you can order your own. The GRO reference is Dec 1851 Nottingham Vol 15 Page 1164. Thomas is described as of full age, widowed, lace maker. He also gives his father as John Clamp (deceased), Hosier. Tasty information!
Happy New Year
Geoff
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Author: MHead63
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Hi Geoff,
Well that was a shock!!! I pre-empted the certificate arriving soon and went to Nottingham Archives.
As you will know the Joseph Clamp who married Catherine Staples isn't the same one who married Harriet Greenshields.
I did find Joseph and Harriet's marriage in 1823 in Nottingham , St Marys church, and also bap for Reuben Theodore Clamp bap 27 October 1830 in the same church, son of Joseph and Harriet. Joseph is noted as Lace maker.
Also found Thomas Clamp married Mary Hall, both of Attenborough 24 Aug 1828 witnesses Benjamin Porter and Samuel Soar, in Bramcote.
I will have to do some alterations to my tree.
Just goes to show you shouldn't trust anything you see on the Internet put there by other unknown people.
Check it all yourself...
Cheers
Marianne
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Author: geoffreyforrest1
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Hi Marianne,
Argentina is a first for the Clamp family! Plenty went to Canada, though, including Albert Edward Clamp's brother. John James Clamp married his first cousin Eliza Craigie and they moved to British Columbia. There may still be some descendents there.
Has your friend considered doing a DNA test?
The Barwell connection is worth checking out, thanks for the information.
Best, Geoff
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Author: MHead63
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Hi Geoff,
This a fascinating tree. I think the Wolvey mentioned on the census is pretty good evidence that this is all correct. I did find Thomas , but it must have been on the 1851 census. Both Thomas and Joseph were Lacemakers.
No dont tell me the details on the certificate.
I am researching for Peter Clamp, an old school friend, who now lives in Canada. I am near Nottingham.
Peter's ancesters were ,
Joseph Clamp and Harriet Greenshield,
John Greenshield Clamp and Jane Stavely,
Joseph Clamp and Ellen(akaHelen) Johnson
Albert Edward Clamp and Emily Austin
Jose Alfredo Clamp and Kathleen Sellars. Jose was born in Argentina
They were mostly in Nottingham , then London, then back to Nottingham
Well, Thanks for your help. I will try to help crack this puzzle.
I did find an odd baptism for an Elizabeth Clamp born to a John and Mary Clamp in the parish of Barwell in 1793, just over the border in Leicestershire, It fits in very well with the sequence of baptisms at Wolvey.
But still no marriage for a John and Mary at that village either.
Keep trying,
Cheers
Marianne
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Author: geoffreyforrest1
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Hi Marianne,
I have a copy of that marriage certificate - do you want me to tell you what it says, or would that spoil the surprise?! I haven't found any direct evidence that Joseph was born in Wolvey, just circumstantial. But his brother Thomas Clamp, who also moved to Nottingham, gave his place of birth as Wolvey in the 1861 census.
William Clamp moved to Warwick, and then later to Bermondsey in South London.
I have had contact with a number of descendents of Joseph Clamp and Harriet Greenshields, especially through their eldest son Joseph Greenshields Clamp. Many of his descendents moved to the USA and Australia. I'd be interested in learning where you fit into this - I may be able to save you some time and energy.
As far as I know, nobody to date has managed to break the Wolvey barrier, and discovered where John and Mary came from. But we keep trying!
Geoff
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Author: MHead63
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Hi Geoff,
I am tracing the Clamp family for a direct descendent of Joseph Clamp who married Harriet Greenshields in Nottingham in 1823.
Apart from a tree online stating that Joseph was born in Wolvey I have no direct proof of this.I have recently sent for the marriage cert for Joseph when he remarried Catherine Staples in 1847, in Nottingham. That will give me the name of Joseph's father which might help in identifying his origins, when it arrives after Christmas.
What info do you have on your William Clamp? Where did he go?
There seem to be no other Clamps in Wolvey except for this family of 7 baptisms between 1795 and 1809. The parents marriage I cant find anywhere.
I look forward to hearing of any more info you may have.
Cheers
Marianne
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Author: geoffreyforrest1
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Hi
I'm also interested in the Clamps of Wolvey - I am descended from one of the children, William. Unfortunately the original parish registers do not give any additional information. If you are interested I can send you other information I have about the family - just send me your email address. However, to date I have not found any clues as to where they came from. Please let me know if you find any!
Geoff Forrest
geoffreydforrest(a)gmail.com
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Author: MHead63
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Hi,
John and Mary Clamp baptised seven children in Wolvey, Warwickshire between 1796 and 1809.
There are no other Clamp names on the IGI in this village. Where did they come from?
Has anyone access to the original baptism registers which might give a clue as to the origin of this couple.
Cheers
MHead
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