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Author: JAYMEDINC
Surnames: Claiborne, MacAlpin
Classification: queries
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http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.claiborne/226/mb.ashx
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I haven't found anything saying that fashion designer Liz Claiborne (my 7th cousin, 3x removed) is related to the first Scottish King, Kenneth MacAlpin (my 39th great grandfather). But I connected a couple family trees that I found on the internet and this is what I have come up with.
Anne Elisabeth Jane "Liz" Claiborne -> Omer Villere Claiborne -> Ferdinand Francois Claiborne -> William Charles Cole Claiborne, Jr. -> Governor William Charles Cole Claiborne, Sr. -> William Claiborne -> Nathaniel Claiborne -> Thomas Claiborne, Jr. -> Thomas Claiborne, Sr. -> Jane Elizabeth Boteler -> John Boteler -> Cressett St. John -> Anne Neville -> Thomas Neville -> Isabel Griffen -> Catherine Curzon -> Alice Willoughby -> Robert Willoughby -> Margaret de Freville -> Baldwin de Freville -> Joyce de Botetourte -> John de Botetourte -> Thomas de Botetourte -> John de Botetourte -> King Edward I -> King Edward III -> King John -> King Henry II -> Empress Matilda -> Queen Matilda -> King Malcolm III -> King Duncan I -> Princess Bethóc -> King Malcolm II -> King Kenneth II -> King Malcolm I -> King Donald II -> King Constantine I -> King Kenneth I
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Author: JAYMEDINC
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Classification: queries
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http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.claiborne/225.1.1.1/mb.ashx
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We are back in! Turns out that descendants of the Honorable William Claiborne, Sr. (the former Virginia Colony Secretary of State and Jamestowne Ancient Planter) are still linked to the Scottish throne though William's wife Jane Elizabeth Boteler, as she is a descendant of Kenneth MacAlpine. I stumbled on this last tonight when I was researching my cousin President Lyndon Baines Johnson's ancestors. I saw that he was a descendant of King Edward I, who I then discovered to be a descendant of King Kenneth I. Now through this I have been able to calculate Kenneth I as my 39th great grandfather. It seems that many of the monarchs are also descendants of French Kings (but I have yet to research into any of that, other than King Robert II being my 32nd great grandfather).
This is my revised lineage that leads to the Scottish monarchy.
Elizabeth Claiborne -> Thomas Claiborne, Sr. -> Jane Elizabeth Boteler -> John Boteler -> Cressett St. John -> Anne Neville -> Thomas Neville -> Isabel Griffen -> Catherine Curzon -> Alice Willoughby -> Robert Willoughby -> Margaret de Freville -> Baldwin de Freville -> Joyce de Botetourte -> John de Botetourte -> Thomas de Botetourte -> John de Botetourte -> King Edward I -> King Edward III -> King John -> King Henry II -> -> Empress Matilda -> Queen Matilda -> King Malcolm III -> King Duncan I -> Princess Bethóc -> King Malcolm II -> King Kenneth II -> King Malcolm I -> King Donald II -> King Constantine I -> King Kenneth I
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Author: JAYMEDINC
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All is not lost! Although they aren't direct ancestors, I just found a link to the monarchy again. King Kenneth I is my "23rd great grandfather of wife of 2nd cousin 12x removed", instead of being my 37th great grandfather as previously thought. Maybe more research will link him to blood and not just through a marriage.
Also, I learned tonight that the Honorable William Claiborne, who I mentioned in this thread, makes his descendants eligible to join the Jamestown Society as he was an "Ancient Planter".
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Author: JAYMEDINC
Surnames: Claiborne, Cleburne, McAlpin
Classification: queries
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Last week when I found my connection to William Claiborne, I found something saying Edmund was William's father and I researched Edmund's lineage up to Kenneth McAlpin, the first King of Scotland. But today I found this link saying that it is an "error" to list Edmund as William's father. http://oursoutherncousins.com/CLAIBORNE FAMILY.pdf
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Author: JAYMEDINC
Surnames: Claiborne, Pauley, Caldwell, Hardwick, Sullivan, Sullivant
Classification: queries
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http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.claiborne/8.29.31.32.2/mb.ashx
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I just found out last week that William Claiborne, the former Secretary of State of the Virginia Colony, is my 10th great grandfather. Does the National Society of the Claiborne Family Descendants have a Facebook page? If not, it should. I'd be interested in learning more about the Claiborne Clan.
My tree, starting with my late great grandmother: Kate Pauley -> James Conway Pauley -> Margaret E Caldwell -> Francina Selena Hardwick -> Rachel Sullivan -> Charles Sullivant -> Owen Sullivant II -> Elizabeth Claiborne -> Thomas Claiborne -> Honorable William Claiborne, Sr. -> Mayor Thomas Claiborne, Jr. -> Thomas Claiborne, Sr.
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Author: JAYMEDINC
Surnames: Claiborne, Sullivant
Classification: queries
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Bad news! It is mentioned in this document that it is an "ERROR" stating that Edmund and Grace are the parents of William Claiborne. This ruins the line to the throne. http://oursoutherncousins.com/CLAIBORNE FAMILY.pdf
But this still leaves Secretary of State William Claiborne as a direct ancestor and his wikipedia page is worth reading. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Claiborne
He isn't a monarch, but his history is very cool none-the-less.
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