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I am new to the Claiborne mailing list. And I would appreciates any
help.
I do not know and I am searching for the parents of Mary Claiborne [sp]
who married John Whitworth probably c 1688/9 in VA..
All I know is that John was born 1673 in King and Queen Co, VA.
gen # 1 John Whitworth and Mary Claiborne had one known child,
Thomas , b 1690.
gen # 2 Thomas b c 1690 : d 1764, VA married Mary Winston.
[also parents unknown]
Thomas Whitworth and Mary Winston had 6 known children.
gen # 3
a. Thomas
b. Catherine Mary
c. Mary
d. WILLIAM - this is my line - b c 1732 Amelia co. VA - which I
have down to myself.
e .Samuel
f. John
If any of these names are familiar to you. please write me. I would be
happy to share and would
love to find out more about Mary Claiborne.
Laverne Raisch < boblarai(a)juno.com >
Try the book "Claiborne of Virginia, Descendants of Col. Wm. Claiborne" by
Dorman and Smith. There is a lot of information on your family there BUT the
father of your Daniel is not listed as Thomas but unknown. It does say Mary
Ann Fontaine Maury married Daniel who died about 1786.
The book can be either purchased or ordered from inter library loan.
Good luck.
MJZ
Matt Maury
_matt_maury(a)hotmail.com_ (mailto:matt_maury@hotmail.com) wrote
Looking for all info on Mary Ann Maury and Daniel Parke Claiborne. Mary Ann
is my 5th great aunt and I have little info on this line of my family. Mary
Ann is the daughter of Matthew Maury and Mary Anne Fontaine. Daniel Parke is
the son of Thomas Claiborne and Anne Fox. Mary Ann and Danile had 4 kids:
Mary Ann Claiborne
Matthew Maury Claiborne
Hannah Claiborne
Dorthea Claiborne
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Looking for all info on Mary Ann Maury and Daniel Parke Claiborne. Mary Ann is my 5th great aunt and I have little info on this line of my family. Mary Ann is the daughter of Matthew Maury and Mary Anne Fontaine. Daniel Parke is the son of Thomas Claiborne and Anne Fox. Mary Ann and Danile had 4 kids:
Mary Ann Claiborne
Matthew Maury Claiborne
Hannah Claiborne
Dorthea Claiborne
Any help would be appreciated.
Matt Maury
matt_maury(a)hotmail.com
Kelley Davenport-Can you post some info on your Claibourn's? I also have
Claibourn's from Tn, Ark, and NC, decendents of Ephriam "Clayborn" /"Claibourn"
and Mary "Polly" Browning. I'd be happy to share if we have a connection.
Evelyn
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i am searching for my husbands grandmother who we are not sure came from tn, georgia,nc,ark her name is mamie claibourne,from what my husband knows was full blooded cherokee.and mamie had a husband by the name of buford davenport.
if anyone has any info on my husbands grandmother please feel free to e mail me.
mrs.kelley davenport jr
Hi, I recently rece'd this email fr a friend who had
recd it fr the late Paul Tobler.
Its probably old news to some, but would like some
opinions on the other daughter, who might she be.
Does anyone have all the children of Wm Claiborne and
Jane Butler? Would you mind sharing please by posting
or direct me where to find them accurately.
Also how does one subscribe to this Claiborne
Newsletter? It sounds rather interesting. thanks for
any assistance, MW
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MW-The late Paul Tobler sent me this, we know from
this, Wm Claiborne had two daughters.
I subscribe to the Claiborne Newsletter. In the
Winter 2005 issue John Fredrick Dorman and Claiborne
T. Smith suggested these corrections.
They maintain that Mary Claiborne was a sister to the
famous Wm. Claiborne and not a daughter. GC
4
There is proof that William Claiborne, Col. Secty
and Elizabeth Jane Butler had 2 daughters with the
known one being Jane Butler Claiborne who married
Thomas Brereton
NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY RECORDSSTATE OF VIRGINIA
Deeds & Orders 1650 - 1652, pg. 36
-William Claiborne 1648
Whereas there are certain debts and other things due
to me at Chichecon (i.e. Chicacone) and other places
up the Bay. These presents are to appoint and
authorize my kinsman Mr. Samuel Smith to ask and
receive as also to implead and acquit and compound
for any the said debts with any persons inhabitants
or beings in the said places and in particular as
being guardian unto my two daughters I do hereby
authorize the said Samuel Smythe to take all those
cattle at Chiceon into his custody for their use and
to receive a heifer due from the estate of James
Cloughton for a bull he killed of theirs witness
hereunto my hand and seal this second day of April
1648
Witness: Christopher Williams
W. Claiborne
2nd daughter born before 1648 and probably about 1638.
Paul
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I also have this bit of information....
William Harris, who in 1667 had died a decade earlier,
was the first name on the list behind Claiborne's,
followed by John Phipps and William Morris. Does this
mean they all made the voyage, or is it just an
example of the flagrant abuse of the headright system
that was common at that time? I now tend to interpret
this as being the latter. It just doesn't make sense
William Harris would go back to England with
Claiborne. If Claiborne was going to be gone for nine
months, he would need William Harris to remain in
Virginia to manage the plantations on the Peninsula.
Whether William Harris accompanied Claiborne or not,
Claiborne apparently made a visit to Willingale Doe,
perhaps to consort with Nathaniel Butler who was
trying to establish a settlement of his own on
Providence Island in the Bahamas. For whatever
reason, Claiborne was introduced to the household of
John Butler at Little Burch Hall. It was here that he
met the 21 year old Elizabeth Butler. He also met her
older brothers, John and Thomas. John Butler was the
same age as Claiborne, born 7 Dec 1600 in Roxwell
Parish (IGI C042551). Thomas Butler was slightly
younger and in 1625 had married Joan Mount-Stephen of
Stepney, who was the widow of a personal friend of
Claiborne's brother Thomas Claiborne. When Claiborne
returned to Virginia in May 1631 he was accompanied by
his own brother, Thomas Claiborne and his wife Jane,
as well as by Thomas Butler and his wife Joan. Both
families would be among the first settlers on Kent
Island. Thomas Butler would eventually return to
England, but in 1635, John Butler and his entire
family came to Virginia. John Butler brought with him
his younger sister Elizabeth, now 25. Elizabeth
Butler and William Claiborne were married at the
plantation at Kecoughtan where they continued to live
for a number of years. Capt. John Butler became the
primary official at the Kent Island settlement for
Claiborne. He died in 1642 but left a number of sons
on Kent Island.
3 June 1624 (Nugent I pg6) first land patent for
William Claiborne recorded 24 July 1621 the group of
young surveyors were ready to depart for Virginia;
William Claiborne 21, William Harris 25, John Phipps
19, and William Morris 18. The Virginia Company was
to pay the passage for Claiborne and two assistants.
Claiborne would pay for the other assistant. They had
a three year contract and their objective was to lay
out a new town at Jamestown and establish an orderly
system to provide for the individual ownership of land
in Virginia.It was for the property that would form
his first plantation at "Kecoughtan" (Elizabeth City
or later Hampton). In it Claiborne claims the patent
for transportation of three persons, William Harris
who came in the "George" in 1621 and John Phipps and
William Morris who came in the "Tyger" in 1621. All
of this information is contained within the patent
itself. These four men represent the survey crew sent
over by the Virginia Company in 1621 to start laying
out a new town at Jamestown, with William Claiborne in
the new position as Surveyor General.The obvious
connection between William Harris and William
Claiborne is with Elizabeth Butler. She was
practically the next-door-neighbor of William Harris
in Willingale Doe and then married William Claiborne
in 1635. But this connection has more to do with
explaining how William Claiborne eventually met his
wife than it does with linking him to William Harris
in 1621. In 1621, William Claiborne had not yet met
his future wife nor any of her family.
I also have this:
This info is passed down by my Butler/Boteler family
history from a book (Exact Title unknown, from the
Virginia Historical/Genealogy Library) about Butler
(Boteler) family, states pg 21:
V. Elizabeth, md William Claiborne of Virginia
(See Claiborne)."
http://www.robinsonresearch.com/states/maryland/history
states: The first white settlement was a trading post
established by William Claiborne, on Kent Island in
the bay, 1631. Lisa Cox-Black ljblack(a)prismnet.com
I also have this:
I have had a number of e-mail "battles" with J. Phil
Harris about Elizabeth �Mary� Claiborne. I showed him
where he had many holes in his thinking, but he is
really close-minded about it. I cannot understand why
he is so adamant about not wanting Robert Harris to
have married Elizabeth 'Mary Claiborne', when he
admits that Robert Harris' father was a surveryor
"partner" of William Claiborne. Your referenced note
of his stated that Claiborne only had a daughter,
Jane, but there is proof that he also had a daughter,
Elizabeth! Elizabeth's patent is in walking distance
from Robert Harris' land! There are many other
connections as well. There is no documented record of
"Mary" Claiborne because her given/legal name was
Elizabeth. Mary was simply her religious confirmation
name that she preferred to be called by. This is the
exact case of William Harris' mother-in-law, Elizabeth
"Mary" (Waters) Overton, and was not uncommon. I have
a Catholic friend who assures me that it is still a
common practice for people to use their confirmation
name among friends, but their given/legal name must be
the one recorded on legal documents. In the 1600s not
only the Catholic Church, but also the Anglican
Church, kept the practice of confirmation names.
After all of my arguments with Phil Harris, he stated
that he had no problem in Robert Harris marrying
Elizabeth Claiborne!! I was glad to see the current
Harris DNA references.
I also have this:
THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, VOL 25, Number 3, Whole
Number 99, July-September 1981, by John Frederick
Dorman that has material on the Harrises and speaks to
Mary Claiborne Rice Harris. There is no, repeat no
proof, of a connection to Wm. Claiborne, but many
alude to the connection. If you are interested in the
Society, e-mail me direct. We have over 170 members
and many are of Wm. Claiborne Line.
Duain Claiborne born19(a)voyager.net
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I am just trying to get my data correctly done, and
appreciate what assistance qualified validated
documents can provide, thanks again, MW
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