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Donnelly's works can be purchased from her. She has an email address and a
snail mail address-I just can't remember either, but someone on the list can
publish it to the list. I found a copy of Webb's book in a library. It is
not very long.
The bigger issue has always been tying the Cissell line of John Cissell, the
MD immigrant, to the Cecil line in England. I would love to know the names
of the source documents that your great aunt has for this, who she has as
John Cissell's parents and grandparents.
Thanks!
MELISSA THOMPSON ALEXANDER
ma.da(a)gte.net
edmonds, washington, usa
-----Original Message-----
From: Cecil, Sarah [mailto:scecil@stites.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:08 AM
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Information!
Okay, after begging my great-aunt to release what she had of our family
history, I finally have something! Since I have been bugging everyone on
this list for information, I thought I'd offer to share what I have now.
There are several handwritten charts, and information about the
Cecil/Cissell line going back to when the name was originally Sitsylt. The
Coat of Arms is also included.
Please let me know if you would like me to mail you copies of anything. The
information includes:
John Cissell 1658 (to Md from Wales), wife Mary. Children John, William,
Thomas, Richard, Robert, Edward, James.
If you trace my line, starting with my father, it looks like this -
Fred J. Cecil, Jr., s/o Fred J. Cecil Sr., s/o Curtis Cecil, s/o Charles
Napoleon Cissell, s/o Linus Cissell, s/o Joseph Cissell, s/o Ignatius
Cissell Sr., s/o James Cissell, s/o John Cissell.
Works cited include "Colonial Settler" by Mary Louise Donnelly; "A Centenary
of Catholicity in Kentucky, 1884" by Webb; "Dictionary of Names of the
United Kingdom"; "The Cecils of Hatfield House" and an ancient manuscript
published in 1563 by Lloyd and republished in 1812.
If ANYONE knows how I could get copies of these works, please let me know.
Also, not that I have been able to be more specific about my family line, if
anyone has ANY information they could share with me I would really
appreciate it.
Thanks!!
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Well, I do not have the John Webster Jones application to the PA Sons of the
Revolution, my cousin has that at the moment. But I do have his first
cousin's application, which reads the same. The scanned copy is not very
legible, so I will snail-mail you a copy of it tomorrow. Meanwhile, here is
what is listed on the applications/affidavits:
Carroll Harrison Jones b. May 18, 1898 Balto. Md.
son of John McNamara Jones b. March 25, 1860 Hollywood, MD and Nellie H.
Miller b July 24, 1857 Baltimore, MD
son of John Ireland Jones b. Sep. 19, 1829 St. Mary's Co., MD d.February 17,
1871 and Mary Jane Cecil b. February 17, 1832 St. Mary's Co. MD.
daughter of John Cecil b. 1805 St. Mary's Co., MD and M.A.C.(Caroline) Magill
b. 1805-1810 St. Mary's Co., MD
son of John Cissell b. Oct 15, 1757 St. Mary's Co., MD and Susannah Thompson
b. c1760 St. Mary's Co., MD
son of John Cissell d. St. Mary's Co. MD (Will prob. 2/22/1793) and Henrietta
__?__ b. St. Mary's Co., MD (married at St. Andrew's Ch., St. Mary's Co. bef
1745)
son of Arthur Cissell d. St. Mary's Co., MD (Will prob. 1737) and Mary, said
to be dau. of Ethelbert Doyne and wife Jane Sanders
***************
Also says that John Cissell was "Private, Third Company, Captain Barton
Lucass, January 20, 1776, Maryland Militia; Private, same company, Major
Mordecai Gist commanding "Maryland Four Hundred", at Battle of Long Island,
Aug. 27, 1776.
The folliwing is a memorandum of the documentary or other authority for the
foregoing line of descent:
- Date of license of marriage of John I. Jones-Brumbaugh, Vol. I, p.361;
Census of 1860
- Marriage of John Cissell-Brumbaugh, Vol. I, p.329; Census of 1840
- Land Record, Annapolis, Lib. 29, p. 229, Mar.6, 1822; St. Andrew's Ch.
Record. p.36; Will of Richard Thompson.
- St. Andrew's Church Register, p. 36 at Md. Historical Library; Will of John
Cissell.
- Will of Arthur Cissell, Annapolis, Lib. 27, F.355, prob. Nov. 5, 1737
Lynell Kirk Nelson
AGenFool(a)aol.com
Here is a wonderful 2nd source on some of this information.
MELISSA THOMPSON ALEXANDER
ma.da(a)gte.net
edmonds, washington, usa
-----Original Message-----
From: AGenFool(a)aol.com [mailto:AGenFool@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:59 PM
To: jlambert(a)northwestern.edu
Cc: ma.da(a)gte.net
Subject: Cissell information
Well, I do not have the John Webster Jones application to the PA Sons of the
Revolution, my cousin has that at the moment. But I do have his first
cousin's application, which reads the same. The scanned copy is not very
legible, so I will snail-mail you a copy of it tomorrow. Meanwhile, here is
what is listed on the applications/affidavits:
Carroll Harrison Jones b. May 18, 1898 Balto. Md.
son of John McNamara Jones b. March 25, 1860 Hollywood, MD and Nellie H.
Miller b July 24, 1857 Baltimore, MD
son of John Ireland Jones b. Sep. 19, 1829 St. Mary's Co., MD d.February 17,
1871 and Mary Jane Cecil b. February 17, 1832 St. Mary's Co. MD.
daughter of John Cecil b. 1805 St. Mary's Co., MD and M.A.C.(Caroline)
Magill
b. 1805-1810 St. Mary's Co., MD
son of John Cissell b. Oct 15, 1757 St. Mary's Co., MD and Susannah Thompson
b. c1760 St. Mary's Co., MD
son of John Cissell d. St. Mary's Co. MD (Will prob. 2/22/1793) and
Henrietta
__?__ b. St. Mary's Co., MD (married at St. Andrew's Ch., St. Mary's Co. bef
1745)
son of Arthur Cissell d. St. Mary's Co., MD (Will prob. 1737) and Mary, said
to be dau. of Ethelbert Doyne and wife Jane Sanders
***************
Also says that John Cissell was "Private, Third Company, Captain Barton
Lucass, January 20, 1776, Maryland Militia; Private, same company, Major
Mordecai Gist commanding "Maryland Four Hundred", at Battle of Long Island,
Aug. 27, 1776.
I would love to be able to share it. Email directly to me or send it to
snail mail at:
Melissa Alexander
ma.da(a)gte.net
21830 84th W
Edmonds, WA 98026
Thanks.
MELISSA THOMPSON ALEXANDER
ma.da(a)gte.net
edmonds, washington, usa
-----Original Message-----
From: AGenFool(a)aol.com [mailto:AGenFool@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:03 PM
To: CISSELL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cissell] Re: CISSELL-D Digest V01 #21
I have the application of John Webster Jones for membership to the
Pennsylvania Society of Sons of the Revolution, which lists John Cissell of
St. Mary's Co. b. Oct 15, 1757, which lists info on several generations
before and after him. If you want more info, I can send it to you.
Lynell Kirk Nelson
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I have the application of John Webster Jones for membership to the
Pennsylvania Society of Sons of the Revolution, which lists John Cissell of
St. Mary's Co. b. Oct 15, 1757, which lists info on several generations
before and after him. If you want more info, I can send it to you.
Lynell Kirk Nelson
AGenFool(a)aol.com
I am new to the list. I am looking for the parents of the John Cissell who
m. Susanna Thompson, daughter of Richard. This John Cissell was christened
in 1757 St. Mary's Co., MD, and died ca. 1835 in Nelson Co., KY. He and
Susanna had daughters Dorothy (Deruth), Janet, Nancy and son James. These
John Cissells are tough, because there were so many at the same time and
place. Any help appreciated.
Joseph Lambert
This is my CISSELL connection.
Mary Octavia CISSELL married Joseph SCHINDLER
her parents were Bernard CISSELL & Lavina RINEY
his parents were Lewis CISSELL and Anna Maria MATTINGLY
I would like to share info with anyone looking into this family.
I received info back to about 1635, but haven't been able to document it. any help would be appreciated.
Chelie
Jane~
I am part of the Cissell family. Jeremiah CISSELL is my 5g-grandfather. He is the son of John Baptist CISSELL and Rebecca ? He was born the 26th of Sept 1773 in St. Mary's Co.,MD He migrated to Kentucky sometime after his birth and before his Marriage to Mary VESSELLS on the 23rd of July 1792 in Holy Cross, Washington Co., KY. Do you have any information on this line? If so please contact me at bkbeal(a)grrtech.com. Thank you
With Pat's info (I had the Cissell side) here are their wife's and parent's
of wife-though basically, all of the sons but the last one who died young,
married sisters.
1 Thomas S MONTGOMERY b: Abt. 1792 src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: in IL ?
.. +Monica DRURY src: Pamela B Wilson pbwilson(a)mediaone.net b: Abt. 1796
src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: in IL ? m: 06 June 1814 in
Nelson Co, KY src: Pamela B Wilson pbwilson(a)mediaone.net Father: Ignatius
DRURY Source: Pamela B Wilson pbwilson(a)mediaone.net Mother: Mary Magdelen
GOLDSBOROUGH
............. 2 Ignatius Bernard MONTGOMERY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] b: 1822 in Randolph, IL src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: Bef. 1880 in Perry Co, MO
................. +Martina CISSELL aka: Martina CECIL b: 18 December 1832
in Perry Co, MO src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: 27 December 1906
src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] m: 09 October 1849 in Perry Co, MO
src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] Father: Lewis CISSELL Source: Elise
Greenup Jourdan, "Early Families of Southern Maryland", Volume 1, 1992
Mother: Ann Marie MATTINGLY Source: Randy Jones randyj2222(a)yahoo.com
............. 2 Charles H MONTGOMERY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] b: 1825 in KY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: Aft. 1860 src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org]
................. +Elizabeth Philomena CISSELL b: 19 July 1837 d: 15
October 1905 in Perry Co, MO src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] m 1: 10
January 1854 in Perry Co, MO src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] m 2: 11
January 1854 Father: Lewis CISSELL Source: Elise Greenup Jourdan, "Early
Families of Southern Maryland", Volume 1, 1992 Mother: Ann Marie MATTINGLY
Source: Randy Jones randyj2222(a)yahoo.com
............. 2 Thomas Leander MONTGOMERY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] b: 27 June 1828 in KY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: 23 November 1880 src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org]
................. +Victoria Ferdinanda CISSELL aka: Victoria CECIL b: 16
March 1843 src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: 28 January 1874 in
Perry Co, MO src: Pat Obrist (iobrist(a)mail.win.org] m: 02 October 1860 in
Perry Co, MD Father: Lewis CISSELL Source: Elise Greenup Jourdan, "Early
Families of Southern Maryland", Volume 1, 1992 Mother: Ann Marie MATTINGLY
Source: Randy Jones randyj2222(a)yahoo.com
............. 2 William Albert MONTGOMERY src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] b: 14 August 1833 src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org] d: 03 March 1852 src: Pat Obrist
(iobrist(a)mail.win.org]
MELISSA THOMPSON ALEXANDER
ma.da(a)gte.net
edmonds, washington, usa