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Carmine CIAVARELLA, b. 16 Jul 1865, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA, d. 2 Jun
1945, prob. San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
m(1). Caterina FAGGIANELLA(I), b. ca 1865, d. 10 Nov 1914, San Marco in
Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Antonio CIAVARELLA, b. 1 Sep 1885, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Emanulle CIAVARELLA, b. 5 Feb 1890, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Guiseppi CIAVARELLA, b. 15 Mar 1893, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA, d.
pos. young
Luigi (Louis) CIAVARELLA, b. 15 Mar 1893, San Marco in Lamis, ITA, d. 16
Apr 1959, Glendive. Montana, bur. Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 17 Mar 1917, Mandan, Morton, ND, Rosa SWINDLING, b. 14 Feb 1900,
Flasher, ND, (dau. of Martin S(CH)WINDLING and Anne ____), d. 16 May 1972,
bur. Mandan, Morton, ND
Herman (Carmine, Sonny) Peter CIAVARELLA, b. 29 Jan 1918, Mandan,
Morton, ND, d. 11 May 2001, Mandan, Morton, ND.
m. 3 Dec 1941, Adelaide SCHAUSS, b. 1 Feb 1924
CH: 6
Michael CIAVARELLA, b. 03 Jan 1920, Mandan , Morton, ND, d. 15 Feb
1920, Mandan , Morton, ND
Antonio (Tony) CIAVARELLA, b. 22 Jul 1921, Mandan, Morton, ND
m.5 Feb 1944, Agnes ____, b. 1 Jul 1921, Elgin, ND
CH: 3
Kathrine (Katie) CIAVARELLA, b. 9 Nov 1922, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 30 Jun 1948, Adam BERNHARDT, b. 14 Dec 1919, d. 20 Oct 1972
Leonard (Lenny) CIAVARELLA, b. 13 Jul 1926, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 17 Apr 1948, Rosemary NEEDHAM, b. 29 Oct 1928
Dorothy (Dolly) CIAVARELLA, b. 23 Jan 1928, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 21 Jun 1950, Ralph WEBER, b. 5 Jul 1924, (son of John WEBER and
____ ____)
Cecelia CIAVARELLA, b. 25 Mar 1930, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 17 Oct 1950, Herman DOSCH, b. 27 Mar 1930
Joseph (Joe) CIAVARELLA, b. 5 Dec 1932, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 8 Jun 1957, Mandan, Morton, ND, Betty ____, b. 23 Sep 1938
CH: 4
Donna May CIAVARELLA, b. 24 Jun 1938, Mandan, Morton, ND
m(1) 19 Jan 1959, in Mandan, Morton, ND, Leo MILLER, b. 16 Sep
1932, St.Anthony,ND
CH: 3
m(2) 15 Sep 2000, in Mandan, Morton, ND, James Otto Mayor, b. 16
May 1938, Carbondale, Jackson, IL
Kenneth (Kenny) CIAVARELLA, b. 19 Sep 1943, Mandan, Morton, ND
m. 22 Jun 1967, Bismarck, Burleigh, ND, Valeria ____, b. 22 Jun
1943, d. ?? Feb 2000
CH: 2
Rachele CIAVARELLA, b. 1 Apr 1897, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Ciro CIAVARELLA, b. 01 Jun 1899, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Leonardo CIAVARELLA, b. 27 Feb 1902, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA, d.
24 Jun 1919
Michele CIAVARELLA, b. 11 Feb 1905, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
m(2). Marie Carmela GRAVINA, b. 20 Feb 1880, d. 03 Jan 1948, San Marco in
Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Giuseppe CIAVARELLA, b. 21 May 1916, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Michelina CIAVARELLA, b. 29 Sep 1918, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Antonio CIAVARELLA, b. 1 Feb 1921, San Marco in Lamis, Foggia, ITA
Have a nice Summer!
Donna Mayor <swindling(a)aol.com>
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I would like to know if anyoneWould have the correct name (in Italian) for
the town hall in San Marco in Lamis And also the address ..
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About a week ago I received a documentFrom .San Marco in lamis .I know some
of the information is really wrong .I would llke to know if someone can
translate a letter for me from Engish to Italian ,Thank You so much ...Donna
Buona Pasqua!
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I have a bit of good news to pass along to any of you who wonder if you will
EVER get help finding your family .Well I wrote to the Civil Authority last
yr.in Sept and got no answer .on March of this yr .About a month ago I sent
another one And lo and behold I heard from them yesterday . I also found some
infro on my own .So hang in there If you are looking they do answer (even tho
they said my grandma was 5 yrs when she had a baby ) they are not always
right of course but than neither am I )I am gonna write and asked them again
..just thought you would like this little bit of infor.
Buona Pasqua!
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We just received Stato Di Famiglia Integrale.In the column
Stato Civile There are three differant abbreviations, what looks like "Cgt, "
"Nub," "Ved ." Does anyone knows
what these mean ?
Several of the thirteen names have dates of death. Does that mean the others
are alive {several were born in the nineteen century }?
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A friend gave this to me ,it was taking off of pie
1. Find all the oral information you can from your relatives ASAP,
before it is lost. So many people fail to start this vital step until
they are older and have lost this source of information. It should
almost be required in high school that each person get this information
to set aside. If I had done this before I was 16 I would have the
missing piece that has stopped me from tracing my great-grandmother's
family, the location of her birth in Italy. You can get forms to help
organize this information from any
genealogical group, i.e. the LDS Family History Centers (FHCs). Call a
local LDS church or 800-346-6044 to find the location of nearest FHC to
you. What is of more importance that just names, places, and dates is
stories about the people. These will never be available from any other
source. Find out about their childhood, how they met, married, worked,
immigrated, did in the war, etc. This is the most fun part and will give
you clues to how to find more information. Don't be too narrow in your
search. Include all possible relatives as you great-grandparents' cousin
may lead you to the families place of origin in Europe.
2. GET THAT BOX OF UNLABELED PHOTOS DOWN FROM THE ATTIC. Go
through all those unlabeled photos and have each one labeled with the
names, date, place, and related information to why it was taken (visit of
relative, wedding, death??). This is a good way to aid in "1" above. A
very important point to remember is that people do not memorize dates,
BUT THEY REMEMBER EVENTS AS THEY RELATED TO THEIR OWN AGES. For example
I could not tell you when my great- grandfather died, but I know I was 16
when he died and I was born in 1945; so, 1945 + 16 = 1961! Get copies
made of key photos. People are always so afraid of loosing a photo. It
took me 15 years to find out my dad's cousin actually had a photo of my
great grandparents taken in 1895 but he was afraid of loosing it. I got
a copy made and enhanced and distributed dozens of copies. I did this
single step with the grandmother of my cousins' wife, "who didn't know
much". It took us four hours to label and organize all the photos and by
then I had the family history back to 1835, with the key fact that all
the males came from one town in the hills of Slovania. I asked her how
long the family lived in that town and she said, "My great-grandfather
told me our family was running from the Turks 400 YEARS AGO and when we
stopped running we started farming." That person passed away shortly
after that evening session, and all that information would have been lost
if I had not talked my cousin into spending four hours doing this.
3. Get copies of all old documents held by your family and translations
of those in a different language. Learn a little of that language
yourself, i.e the months and how to count.
4. Bug people in the internet, like me, you might get at least some of
your family history handed to you on a silver platter.
STEPS BEFORE SEARCHING OVERSEAS
All of the above can be done quickly and cheaply both in money and time
and should be done ASAP. Now comes the harder part. Throughout the
below work, keep in mind that the key piece of information needed before
searching overseas is LOCATION.
1. Go to a National Archive site (Washington, New York, Chicago, etc)
and use the SOUNDEX to find your family in each ten year census they were
here, keeping and eye out for other possible relatives. This provides
vital information on FAMILY GROUPINGS and other relatives. It also
provides approximate ages, how long some one was married, how long they
have been in America, occupation, relationship to head of household,
worth, if they could read and write, etc. Take all this with a grain of
salt as one does not know who provided the information and there were
problems when a Polish census taker did and Italian neighborhood. You
should get familiar with soundex codes and keep a list of them. At an
actual archives, this can be done in one or two days by someone who knows
what they are doing. If you can not visit an actual archives, then you
must do this through ordering films at a FHC. This is infinitely slower
and does cost a lot more in time and money. The archives's use is free
and I can go through a dozen films in a day when I am hot. Each film
will cost about $4 to order and two weeks to get at a FHC. The problem
may be that you do not know what the next film will be until you see the
first one, then its another $4 and two weeks, etc. Make copies of the
family pages if possible. If not, make sure to copy all information
available.
2. Check all your deceased relatives that could have drawn social
security in the FHC Social Security Death Index. For $7/person,
you can obtain a copy of all the paperwork they submitted to apply
for social security, INCLUDING PROOF OF AGE. This means a birth
record in most cases. The death index will naturally give you the
approximate location and date of death, things often hard to find.
3. Order all the various birth, marriage, death and naturalization
records for your family, noting who was witnesses and God Parents.
Ask for copies of the original instead of just transcribed forms.
I find that transcribed copies miss vital information. The
witnesses for the wedding of my great grandfather, Luigi
Gentiluomo, in Brooklyn were Giuseppe & Grazia Saltalamacchia; so
what. But the actual document listed them as Giuseppe
Saltalamacchia and Grazia GENTILUOMO, with Grazia's maiden name.
This was Luigi's sister and brother-in-law.
4. Once you know about when they immigrated, check the passenger
lists to find the grouping of the family when they came. Check for
arrival information when they disembarked. This often lists the
LOCATION where they last lived and WHO IS MEETING THEM.
5. Check genealogical libraries for information already put
together on your family or related families. Genealogist love to
go out on various branches and you may find someone has already
done a lot of your family.
SEARCHING OVERSEAS (without really going there)
1. The FHCs have loads of microfilms of records from Europe that
would be a pain to find or use even if you went Europe; so, why
bother at this time. USE THE MICROFILMS. For example, they have
most of the Italian Civil records from 1809-1900, BUT THEY ARE NOT
IN ENGLISH. Would you believe Italian, but do not despair, for
most are on preprinted forms with vital information filled in the
blanks. You should be able to read names. I told you before to
learn the twelve months and counting can not be that bad. With a
dictionary you can pick up other key words and will be zipping
through the documents in know time. On the end of this paper I
have a horse sheet for Italian beginners (it is about my extent of
knowledge of Italian too.). This should get you back into the late
1700's (a person born, married or who died in 1810 has the names of
his parents on the records). In some cases, grandparents are
listed on birth records.
2. Check if the FHC or someone has a microfilm of the telephone
book of the LOCATION in Europe from which your family originated.
It does not have to be current. That will help with the spelling
of the various family names (in Italian is does not matter how it
is spelled as long as it sounds the same, i.e. Zagami = Zahami).
Now write to your distant relatives and see if one answers. I got
responses from about one in ten, but those one or two can be a big
help. Now you have a CONTACT AT THE LOCATION. If you can interest
them in the project and show them what you have from the
microfilms, perhaps they can work on the church records. I managed
to have a business trip to allowed me to stop in Messina for four
days and I stayed with my 8th cousin. You can also have them check
the library there or others for old bibles family histories, etc.
I would offer to pay them some reasonable amount. They could take
some pictures or videos of the town, a kind of tour of the
LOCATION. Anyway, with help on the church records one can usually
go back at least into the early 1700's (unless the church records
were destroyed as in one case for me).
Buona Pasqua!
Have a nice day!
Donna Mayor <swindling(a)aol.com>
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