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Surnames: church, barnes, hale, brown
Classification: Query
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I am also researching this line. My great-grandmother was Sarah Elizabeth Church Hale, daughter of William and Hailey/Halie Barnes Church. Would love any information anyone has on this line.
Thanks!!
6th ANNUAL "YANKEE JOHN" CHURCH FAMILY REUNION
Saturday, August 5, 2006 will mark the sixth year that descendants of "Yankee John" Church will descend upon Jefferson, North Carolina to visit family and friends. The hundreds of participants attending the reunion over the past few years have met family members they didn't know they had and made new friends in an area of the country known for it's beauty and hospitality. Family members from California to Florida and from Washington state to Chesapeake, Virginia will again exchange genealogical information about Church ancestors. All Church descendants are welcome. Some of the festivities will include "campfire story tellin'', mountain music, dinner at Shatley Springs and an old fashioned 'Pot Luck' dinner Saturday.
E-mail Richard Church, rlchurch(a)cox.net or Dave Church, dchurch40(a)adelphia.net for more information and directions to the reunion site.
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Surnames: Nobbley/ Nobley
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I am looking for information on Agnez (Nobbley) Church. On her Parents Maude Annis Nobbley born Nov 2 1885 And Wilber Nobbley around 1880-1885. Any info please contact me. Thanks.
I saw a post that said that Yankee John church died April 1,1811. Would
anyone know who found that information or where they found it? Thanks,Ross
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Looks well researched. Website is: http://members.tripod.com/reggie_owen_1/myfamilytree/id19.html
Reggie Owen Family Tree
YANKEE JOHN CHURCH HISTORY PG
maternal great great great great great grandfather
PERSONAL INFORMATION AND HISTORY
Born on July 11, 1732 in Sheffield, Mass. (No proof)
Died on April 1, 1811 in Wilkes County, NC
Married?
Name of spouses: (1)Stamper? (2) Jane Andrews
Name of children:(1) Amos, John, Benjamin, Phillip, Martha, Elijah, Elisha, Joel, Aaron*: (2) Gabriel, Betsy, Massey and Anna
Name of parents: John Church and Thankful? No proof!
U.S. military service record: Revolutionary War
Places lived: Sheffield, Mass.?, Virginia, Rowan County, NC,Ashe County and Wilkes County, NC.
Total 14 Children. John moved from Virginia to Rowan County, NC in 1760 and from Rowan to Wilkes County, NC in 1773.
PART A -- THE FAMILY AND DESCENDANTS OF JOHN CHURCH 1
by John Scalf
CHAPTER I - YANKEE JOHN (1734-1806)
John Church I (Yankee John) lived in Rowan County, North Carolina by 1760. The Revolutionary War pension application for his son John II listed this county as his place of birth in that year. John's name appears on a 1761 list of taxable living in a section of Rowan County that is now in Davie County. This listing was certified by the county court on 8 Oct 1761.
Unfortunately, nothing is known about Yankee John prior to 1758. The pension application of his son Amos stated that he (Amos) was born in Virginia in the year 1758. No established area of residency has yet been discovered in that state. Many Church family researchers have speculated that the family probably was migrating south at the time of this birth and did not establish permanent residency in the state of Virginia. Some descendants have known him as Yankee John, thereby indicating the possibility that his origins were further to the north. The Virginia problem is complicated by the loss of all early records in several counties of that state.
There are other references to the presence of John I in Rowan during the 1760's. On 3 Oct 1764 A summary of claim made to the county during the year was entered into the court minutes. John Church had received ten shillings bounty money for bringing in a wolf scalp during the year. It is interesting to note that the same listing contains an identical payment to Daniel Boone, making a personal acquaintance between them a distinct probability.
No land records for John have been uncovered in the Rowan records. However, many early settlers were living on land considered theirs but land that was never registered at the courthouse. He must have been a landowner. The colonial custom of putting orphans in the hands of community members required that the overseeing adult be part of the landed gentry. The court minutes of 15 Apr 1767, record a summons issued to John Church to bring into the next court Sarah Burch an orphan to be dealt with legally. The 16 Jul 1767 court ordered that Rachal Burch be apprenticed to John till she attains to the age of 18 years she being 14 years and 5 months old, and the Master is to give the said apprentice a suite freedom cloath and a colt and calf and a spinning wheel. The last entry relative to this matter occurred in the 4 Nov 1774 session when John Church was requested to come to the next court and explain why he had not freed "...his indentured servant Rachel Burch, agreeable to law."!
John had moved his family to the New River area of Wilkes County in 1773.
Only one other reference to John has been found in the Rowan records. On Wednesday, 14 Nov 1770, he recorded his personal livestock mark as, "a crop in the left ear." Thus, it is apparent that John was a part of the land owning planters of early Rowan life. He owned some livestock and was certified as a legal representative of the county court.
Amos, presumably the oldest son, stated that the family lived in Rowan from l760 to l773 when they moved to Wilkes County. Thus, the legal documents pertaining to John after that date are to be bound in the Wilkes's records. In l772, Surry County has been formed from Rowan. This new county contained the area where John moved. This was later to be in Wilkes which was created in l778.
An excellent article by William Doub Bennett dealing with the settlement problems of the New River area was published in the Feb. l984 issue of the North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal. Bennett reported that Granville Grants of land were made in the western part of the state until the death of Lord Granville which led to the closing of that office in l763. He further states that:
"From that time until 1778, when the State of North Carolina assumed title to all vacant lands and began issuing grants, it was impossible to obtain title to vacant land in Ashe County. The lack of title to land in western North Carolina was such a problem, that the North Carolina Assembly passed the following resolution on 19 Aug 1778. Whereas there are so few persons in Wilkes, Burke, Washington and Surrey Counties who have obtained Titles to their Lands, that legal juries cannot be obtained. Resolved therefore that Reputable House Holders in the aforesaid Counties be and are hereby to be capable of Acting as Jury Men upon all occasions within their respective Counties."
Undoubtedly John Church was caught in the dilemma described above. Wilkes County land entry # 731 indicates that Benjamin Cleveland entered on 2 Jan 1779 100 acres on the waters of New River, the Little Fork of Pine Swamp, including the plantation whereon John Church now lives. Benjamin Cleveland's name was marked out and John Church's name was written over it in the entry book. Presumably John had moved his family there in 1773, was unable to enter the land originally, failed to do so promptly with the opening of the state land office, and was preempted by Cleveland. Some type negotiation allowed the entry to revert to John's name since his improvements (houses, barns, etc.) were noted on the original entry. This land, which would later fall in Ashe County when it was formed in 1801, was deeded to John by the state on 6 May 1782.
The 1782 deed reported above indicated that the Church home was still maintained on Pine Swamp through that date. It is important to note here that it appears that John later moved his family to land across the crest of the Blue Ridge in or near the present Summit community on property that remains in Wilkes County today. This move took place prior to the 1801 formation of Ashe County for his post-1801 legal documents are to be found in the Wilkes records. The original Pine Swamp site was sold by John in 1802 to John Judd for 100 pounds as recorded in the Ashe records. John had entered and received one other 100 acre tract on New River in 1785. He sold this land to David Owen for 200 pounds in 1794. On 18 May 1789 he received two grants of 100 acres each on Lewis Fork. One of these tracts began at a chestnut on the top of the mountain and was located on the North Fork of Lewis Fork. This piece he sold to Elijah Church in 1795 for 12 pounds. The other tract was probably the o!
ne on which he lived at his death. At least there is no record of his selling it. John made one other land purchase in Wilkes. In 1795 he bought another tract on Lewis Fork from William Floid for 20 pounds. He sold this in Oct of 1805 to Elizabeth Blackburn for 40 pounds. That document was the last legal transaction known regarding John Church I. The following is a summary of his various land deals in Ashe and Wilkes Counties.
Date Bought Acres Date Sold Location
6 May 1782 100 16 Aug 1802 Pine Swamp - New River
18 May 1789 100 16 Nov 1795 N. Fork - Lewis Fork
18 May 1789 100 Ft.of Mtn.- Lewis Fork
22 Sep 1785 100 20 Sep 1794 S. Fork - New River
16 Sep 1795 100 31 Oct 1805 N. Fork - Lewis Fork
A 1782 tax list of Captain Cleveland's district of Wilkes County contains the following entries for John Church, Senr.:
400 acres, value 80 pounds
4 horses and mules: value 24 pounds
13 cattle, value 13 pounds
Total value: 117 pounds
This is just one of several that I was able to find through Google.
Found at this website -
http://www.maynor.net/Genealogy/church.html
(I don't know if all the underlined words will still be clickable once I copy it to the email message.)
[Click on gedcom at bottom of screen for sources and lateral branches.]
JOHN ("YANKEE JOHN") CHURCH (1732-1806)
-b. 1732, Sheffield, Massachusetts
-moved to Virginia in the mid-1750s and then to North Carolina in 1760
-m. ? STAMPER and later JANE ANDREWS, daughter of James and Sarah Andrews of Rowan County, NC
-d. 1806, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-children of John and first wife: AMOS CHURCH; JOHN CHURCH; BENJAMIN CHURCH; <>; MARTHA CHURCH (PARSONS); ELIJA CHURCH; ELISHA CHURCH; JOEL CHURCH; AARON CHURCH
-children of John and Jane: ANNA CHURCH (BYERS); GABRIEL CHURCH; ELIZABETH (BETSY) CHURCH (TRIPLETT); MASSEY CHURCH (PARSONS)
AARON CHURCH (1786-1846)
-b. 1786, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-m. NANCY OWENS, b. c1781, living with daughter Rachael Dancy at age 89 in 1870
-d. 1846, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-children of Aaron and Nancy: ALEXANDER CHURCH; ENOCH CHURCH; MARTIN CHURCH;RACHAEL CHURCH (DANCY); CATHERINE CHURCH (WHEELER); LARKIN CHURCH; ELIZABETH CHURCH; JESSE CHURCH; RODA CHURCH; MARY ANN CHURCH (WHEELER)
RACHAEL CHURCH (DANCY) (1810-1895)
-b. December 28, 1810, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-m. ISHAM DANCY, July 28, 1831, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-d. April 14, 1895, Mulberry (Wilkes County), North Carolina
-son out of wedlock: ALFRED CHURCH, b. c1829, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-children of Rachael and Isham: ALEXANDER B. DANCY; MARY ANN DANCY; DAVID DANCY; MARTIN DANCY, CALVIN DANCY; AMANDA CAROLINE DANCY; LAURA JANE DANCY
ALFRED CHURCH (c1829-1863)
-b. c1829, Wilkes County, North Carolina
-according to a bastardy bond dated 5 May 1829, the father of Alfred Church was RICHARD WHEELER
-moved to Jackson County, Alabama
-m. LOUISA J. STUART, b. c1832, Tennessee
-d. November 23, 1863, Atlanta (Fair Ground Hospital #1)
-children of Alfred and Louisa: DAVID CHURCH; RACHAEL CHURCH (apparently died in childhood); METILDA CAROLINA CHURCH (COLLIER); AMANDA JANE CHURCH (STONER); . Louisa had another child, MOLLIE CHURCH (WIGINTON) (LACKEY), born several years after Alfred's death.
-served in the Civil War in AL 18th Bn. Vol., Co. A; died of pneumonia
(Louisa Stuart Church also died several years later. David went to live with William and Mary Ann Harris in Big Coon, Alabama; Metilda went to live with Valentine and Kezia McCollum near Pisgah, Alabama; Amanda Jane and Mollie went to live with Linsey and Elizabeth Wheeler near Pisgah, Alabama; Rachael apparently died sometime before 1870.)
Pictures:
Graves of Nancy Owens Church and Rachael Church Dancy
Amanda Jane Church Stoner
Amanda and Metilda Church
David Church
Metilda and Joe Collier
Metilda Church Collier and Florence Stoner Mason
Metilda Church Collier
Metilda Church Collier with Bob Maynor
Grave of Mollie Church Wiginton Lackey
Letter:
Letter from Rachael Church Dancy, 1887
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Hello
Thanks for the info. Could you tell me where you were able to find the date
that Yankee John Church died? thanks
>From: "Rita Guzzo" <rita.guzzo_47(a)verizon.net>
>Reply-To: CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [CHURCH] Another Yankee John Church website
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:08:09 -0400
>
>Looks well researched. Website is:
>http://members.tripod.com/reggie_owen_1/myfamilytree/id19.html
>
>Reggie Owen Family Tree
>
>
>
>YANKEE JOHN CHURCH HISTORY PG
>
>maternal great great great great great grandfather
>
>
>
>
>PERSONAL INFORMATION AND HISTORY
>
>Born on July 11, 1732 in Sheffield, Mass. (No proof)
>
>Died on April 1, 1811 in Wilkes County, NC
>
>Married?
>
>Name of spouses: (1)Stamper? (2) Jane Andrews
>
>Name of children:(1) Amos, John, Benjamin, Phillip, Martha, Elijah, Elisha,
>Joel, Aaron*: (2) Gabriel, Betsy, Massey and Anna
>
>Name of parents: John Church and Thankful? No proof!
>
>U.S. military service record: Revolutionary War
>
>Places lived: Sheffield, Mass.?, Virginia, Rowan County, NC,Ashe County and
>Wilkes County, NC.
>
>Total 14 Children. John moved from Virginia to Rowan County, NC in 1760 and
>from Rowan to Wilkes County, NC in 1773.
>
>PART A -- THE FAMILY AND DESCENDANTS OF JOHN CHURCH 1
>
>by John Scalf
>
>
>
>CHAPTER I - YANKEE JOHN (1734-1806)
>
>John Church I (Yankee John) lived in Rowan County, North Carolina by 1760.
>The Revolutionary War pension application for his son John II listed this
>county as his place of birth in that year. John's name appears on a 1761
>list of taxable living in a section of Rowan County that is now in Davie
>County. This listing was certified by the county court on 8 Oct 1761.
>
>Unfortunately, nothing is known about Yankee John prior to 1758. The
>pension application of his son Amos stated that he (Amos) was born in
>Virginia in the year 1758. No established area of residency has yet been
>discovered in that state. Many Church family researchers have speculated
>that the family probably was migrating south at the time of this birth and
>did not establish permanent residency in the state of Virginia. Some
>descendants have known him as Yankee John, thereby indicating the
>possibility that his origins were further to the north. The Virginia
>problem is complicated by the loss of all early records in several counties
>of that state.
>
>There are other references to the presence of John I in Rowan during the
>1760's. On 3 Oct 1764 A summary of claim made to the county during the year
>was entered into the court minutes. John Church had received ten shillings
>bounty money for bringing in a wolf scalp during the year. It is
>interesting to note that the same listing contains an identical payment to
>Daniel Boone, making a personal acquaintance between them a distinct
>probability.
>
>No land records for John have been uncovered in the Rowan records. However,
>many early settlers were living on land considered theirs but land that was
>never registered at the courthouse. He must have been a landowner. The
>colonial custom of putting orphans in the hands of community members
>required that the overseeing adult be part of the landed gentry. The court
>minutes of 15 Apr 1767, record a summons issued to John Church to bring
>into the next court Sarah Burch an orphan to be dealt with legally. The 16
>Jul 1767 court ordered that Rachal Burch be apprenticed to John till she
>attains to the age of 18 years she being 14 years and 5 months old, and the
>Master is to give the said apprentice a suite freedom cloath and a colt and
>calf and a spinning wheel. The last entry relative to this matter occurred
>in the 4 Nov 1774 session when John Church was requested to come to the
>next court and explain why he had not freed "...his indentured servant
>Rachel Burch, agreeable to law."!
> John had moved his family to the New River area of Wilkes County in
>1773.
>
>Only one other reference to John has been found in the Rowan records. On
>Wednesday, 14 Nov 1770, he recorded his personal livestock mark as, "a crop
>in the left ear." Thus, it is apparent that John was a part of the land
>owning planters of early Rowan life. He owned some livestock and was
>certified as a legal representative of the county court.
>
>Amos, presumably the oldest son, stated that the family lived in Rowan from
>l760 to l773 when they moved to Wilkes County. Thus, the legal documents
>pertaining to John after that date are to be bound in the Wilkes's records.
>In l772, Surry County has been formed from Rowan. This new county contained
>the area where John moved. This was later to be in Wilkes which was created
>in l778.
>
>An excellent article by William Doub Bennett dealing with the settlement
>problems of the New River area was published in the Feb. l984 issue of the
>North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal. Bennett reported that
>Granville Grants of land were made in the western part of the state until
>the death of Lord Granville which led to the closing of that office in
>l763. He further states that:
>
>"From that time until 1778, when the State of North Carolina assumed title
>to all vacant lands and began issuing grants, it was impossible to obtain
>title to vacant land in Ashe County. The lack of title to land in western
>North Carolina was such a problem, that the North Carolina Assembly passed
>the following resolution on 19 Aug 1778. Whereas there are so few persons
>in Wilkes, Burke, Washington and Surrey Counties who have obtained Titles
>to their Lands, that legal juries cannot be obtained. Resolved therefore
>that Reputable House Holders in the aforesaid Counties be and are hereby to
>be capable of Acting as Jury Men upon all occasions within their respective
>Counties."
>
>Undoubtedly John Church was caught in the dilemma described above. Wilkes
>County land entry # 731 indicates that Benjamin Cleveland entered on 2 Jan
>1779 100 acres on the waters of New River, the Little Fork of Pine Swamp,
>including the plantation whereon John Church now lives. Benjamin
>Cleveland's name was marked out and John Church's name was written over it
>in the entry book. Presumably John had moved his family there in 1773, was
>unable to enter the land originally, failed to do so promptly with the
>opening of the state land office, and was preempted by Cleveland. Some type
>negotiation allowed the entry to revert to John's name since his
>improvements (houses, barns, etc.) were noted on the original entry. This
>land, which would later fall in Ashe County when it was formed in 1801, was
>deeded to John by the state on 6 May 1782.
>
>The 1782 deed reported above indicated that the Church home was still
>maintained on Pine Swamp through that date. It is important to note here
>that it appears that John later moved his family to land across the crest
>of the Blue Ridge in or near the present Summit community on property that
>remains in Wilkes County today. This move took place prior to the 1801
>formation of Ashe County for his post-1801 legal documents are to be found
>in the Wilkes records. The original Pine Swamp site was sold by John in
>1802 to John Judd for 100 pounds as recorded in the Ashe records. John had
>entered and received one other 100 acre tract on New River in 1785. He sold
>this land to David Owen for 200 pounds in 1794. On 18 May 1789 he received
>two grants of 100 acres each on Lewis Fork. One of these tracts began at a
>chestnut on the top of the mountain and was located on the North Fork of
>Lewis Fork. This piece he sold to Elijah Church in 1795 for 12 pounds. The
>other tract was probably the o!
> ne on which he lived at his death. At least there is no record of his
>selling it. John made one other land purchase in Wilkes. In 1795 he bought
>another tract on Lewis Fork from William Floid for 20 pounds. He sold this
>in Oct of 1805 to Elizabeth Blackburn for 40 pounds. That document was the
>last legal transaction known regarding John Church I. The following is a
>summary of his various land deals in Ashe and Wilkes Counties.
>
>Date Bought Acres Date Sold Location
>
>6 May 1782 100 16 Aug 1802 Pine Swamp - New River
>
>18 May 1789 100 16 Nov 1795 N. Fork - Lewis Fork
>
>18 May 1789 100 Ft.of Mtn.- Lewis Fork
>
>22 Sep 1785 100 20 Sep 1794 S. Fork - New River
>
>16 Sep 1795 100 31 Oct 1805 N. Fork - Lewis Fork
>
>A 1782 tax list of Captain Cleveland's district of Wilkes County contains
>the following entries for John Church, Senr.:
>
>400 acres, value 80 pounds
>
>4 horses and mules: value 24 pounds
>
>13 cattle, value 13 pounds
>
>Total value: 117 pounds
>
>
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Thanks, I'd appreciate being able to compare and share notes. My address is danabsgr(a)aol.com.
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Thank you! Milas and Sidney were brothers to my grandfather, George Washington McGuire. My grandmother's name was just listed as "Church" on his death certificate. I will be glad to e-mail you with the information that I and my daughter have on the family.
Richard
I am also trying to find who Yankee John's first wife was. That is going to
be a tough one. Aslo I am trying to find when and wehre Jane Andrews died
and why her children were living with her in the 1810 Wilkes co NC census
but she was living alone in the 1820 census. Thanks,Rossply-To:
CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CHURCH] Benjamin Church born 1763 in Rowan co NC
>Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:50:37 -0400
>
>Thank you Ross. It appears that your persistence is finally paying off.
>That is good research. Although you didn't find the exact documents you
>were searching for, I believe your use of logic and assumption is
>justified, especially since you include all the details that led you to
>your conclusions.
>
>Thanks again. Richard Church
>
>
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Thanks Richard
If I find some more info about Benjamin Church I will let you know. I know
he was not in your direct line but it will help add information about Yankee
John's children so if someone else is searching for that info maybe it will
save them a little time. Would you know if Yankee John descended from the
Benjamin church who was the famous indian fighter or the Church who married
a Warren who came over on the Mayflower. I can't remember her first name.
Thanks,Rosslchurch(a)cox.net>
>Reply-To: CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHURCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CHURCH] Benjamin Church born 1763 in Rowan co NC
>Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:50:37 -0400
>
>Thank you Ross. It appears that your persistence is finally paying off.
>That is good research. Although you didn't find the exact documents you
>were searching for, I believe your use of logic and assumption is
>justified, especially since you include all the details that led you to
>your conclusions.
>
>Thanks again. Richard Church
>
>
>
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Seeking information on family of Ann or Elizabeth
CHURCH born abt 1536 in Felsted, Essex, England. She
married by 1560 to Thomas VESSEY. I would appreciate
any informationon either of these families.
RJThoden(a)yahoo.com
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Milas and William Sidney McGuire were sons of Thomas M. McGuire and (I have) Catherine Greer. Caty Greer was the wife of Thomas M. , but he may have had a previous wife I'm not aware of. There were other siblings also. I have more info on this family if you want to contact me privately. Sidney was not female. The Sidney McGuire who married George Brandon was from another family, unrelated to this line.
As most you know Benjamin Church who was born in 1763 in Rowan co NC and the
son of Yankee John Church is probaly the least researched of all of Yankee
John's children. For anyone who is interested I have found a little more
info and hope to find more. We know he left NC and went to SC. We know he
went to Georgia by 1818 because he is listed in the 1818 Franklin co Ga tax
digest. Habersham co Ga was formed from Franklin co Ga and he is listed in
the 1820 Habersham co Ga census. We know he won land in Early co and Appling
co Ga in the 1820 Georgia land lottery. Georgia had a number of land
lotteries from 1805-1832 to try and get people to settle the state. Most
peopl.e just got one draw to try and win usually about 200 acres of land but
since Benjamin church won two peices of property meaning he had two draws to
win this might mean that he was a Revolutionary War soldier because they
were the few that got two draws. This is where researchers lose track of
Benjamin Chruch. I was able to find a reference to Benjamin Church losing a
piece of property in 1829. It was lot 95 auctioned off at the courthouse in
Fayette co Ga in 1829. Fayette co Ga was out in the middle of no where in
1829. IT was the frontier with indians every where and since their land had
been bought or taken they were not very happy so unless someone won land in
Fayette co Ga in the 1821 Ga land lottery when land in Fayette co Ga was
given to fortunat drawers there would really have been no reason for someone
to pack up and go to the frontier. I caould not find where he had won land
in the Ga land lottery in Fayette co Ga or any of the surrounding areas. I
thought maybe he was renting land from someone hwo had won it or bought it
in Fayette co but could not find any records of that either. Then I ordered
the 1826 Fayette co Ga tax digest film from the LDS library and found that
he was paying taxes on land located in district 9 lot 71 in Fayette co. I
still have not been able to find any records showing he purchased the
property. In 1828 Campbell co Ga was formed from Fayette co Ga and his land
was in the part of Fayette co that became Campbell co Ga. I was able to find
the exact location of his property. This is where it gets interesting. Most
of you have seen my queries about a Jane Church who married Solomon ray in
1829 in Henry co Ga. Henry co Ga was next to Henry co Ga. I had an idea that
Jane Church was the daughter of Benjamin Church. Jane and Solomon married in
1829 and in the 1830 Campbell co Ga census Benjamin is listed with two
daughters living with him both about Jane's age. The earlier census reports
showed he had three daighters about Jane's age so it there were three
daughters and Jane got married there should have been two daughters left and
there were but still I needed more proof Jane was Benjamin's daughter. The
orphans of Solomon Ray who died in 1813 won land in the 1821 Ga land lottery
in Fayette co Ga in 1821 but in the 1827 Ga land lottery they won land again
but the records said they were living in DeKalb co ga. I could not find any
records showing they had sold their land in Fayette co and gone to DeKalb co
Ga. I was able to find that DeKalb co ga was formed in 1822 from Fayette co
Ga. The area their land was located in Fayette co became DeKalb co Ga in
1822. That would explain why the orphans of Solomon Ray Sr were living in
DeKalb co Ga in 1827 when they won land again in the 1827 Ga land lottery. I
was thinking that if I could find where Benjamin Church's land was located
and where the orphans of Solomon Ray's property was located and if they were
very close then that would be enough proof that Solomon Ray Jr (one of the
orphans of Solomon Ray Sr) and Jane Church met because they lived so close
to each other. The problem was that Benjamin Church's property was in
Campbell co Ga in 1829 and it looked like the orphans of Solomon Ray's
property was in DeKalb co until I researched it some more and found that the
part of DeKalb co Ga where the orphans of Solomon Ray Sr's property was
located became Campbell co Ga in 1828 when Campbell co Ga was formed so both
lots were in Campbell co ga in 1828. The orphans of Solomon ray lived in
district 14 lot 131. The possibility that Benjamin Church and the orphans of
Solomon Ray lived close to each other was looking better but still Campbell
co Ga was a fairly big county and they could have lived ten to fifteen miles
apart. I located both properties on a map showing districts and lot numbers
and they lived one half to one mile apart. That is prooof enough for me that
Jane Church was benjamin Church's daughter. I am working with the Georgia
Archives and we are trying to find when Benjamin church swold his land and
who he sold it to if he sold it or if he died was there a will or letters of
administration to see when and wehre he died. I will keep yu posted if I am
abel to find that information. Since Benjamin Church had two other daughters
living with him in the 1830 Campbell co Ga census I tried to find marriage
records for Church girls in that area in the 1830's but there were none so I
still do not know what Benjamin Church's other two daughter's name were. He
did have a son named Gabriel B Church born in 1802. I found that the B stood
for Benson so maybe Benson was the maiden name of the wife of Benjamin
Church. I don't know. Benson is traditionally a last anme. This was not the
Gabriel Church who was the son of Yankee John Church and Jane Andrews. I
don't mean to bore anyone with the details of my research but I find it very
interesting and I hope you do to. Thanks,Ross
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Surnames: Church, Shea, Sheehan, Burrows, Preston, Bustillo, Judkins
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Walter H. Church Jr. passed away on April 23, 2006, in Sarasota, Fla., under hospice care.
He was born on December 8, 1917, the third son of Walter and Agnes Shea Church, in Royal Oak, Michigan. In 1921, his family located to the Plattsburgh area, where Mr. Church attended local schools. After graduating from St. John's Academy, Mr. Church attended St. Bonaventure College in Olean, followed by his enlistment in the U.S. Army. He served as a commissioned officer in an armored unit in the Pacific theater of World War II. He also served as an officer instructor during the Korean conflict.
Mr. Church was an integral member of many family businesses, including Church Oil Company and Plattsburgh Motor Service, with several affiliated locations throughout upstate New York, as well as PLMOSE, Inc., a real estate holding company.
Mr. Church participated in many civic and fraternal organizations. He was a charter member and past president of the Chazy Lions Club, a life member of the Elks Club and was appointed by Gov. Nelson Rockefeller to the first Board of Trustees of Clinton Community College.
Mr. Church enjoyed several sports in his younger years, especially bobsledding with his older brother, Joseph, at Mt. Van Hoevenburg, as well as golfing at Bluff Point.
Mr. Church is survived by his wife of 62 years, Mary (Sheehan); son Walter H. Church III and wife, Nancy, of Plattsburgh; daughter Deborah Kern of Middletown, RI; daughter Pamela Church and husband, Edward Burrows, of Venice, FL; daughter Keven Preston and husband, Martin, of Gansevoort, NY; and daughter Stacey Bustillo and husband, Felipe, of Lenexa, KS. He is also survived by siblings Joan Church of Chazy, Robert Church of Chazy, and Susan Judkins of Plattsburgh as well as nine grandchildren, one great-grandchild, and several nieces and nephews.
Mr. Church was predeceased by his parents as well as brothers John, Joseph, Thomas, and Charles.
At the request of the family, services were private. The National Cremation Society of Sarasota was in charge of all arrangements. Memorial donations in memory of Walter H. Church, Jr. may be made to a Hospice organization of your choice or Masses may be said in his name.
Sadly we say "goodbye and job well done" to another of America's "Greatest Generation."
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Surnames: Church
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Norwalk Union Cemetery headstone inscription reads:
Marion Church, 1860 - 1942.
Hope this helps someone.
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Norwalk Union Cemetery headstone inscription reads:
Frederick, son of Samuel & Mary Church, 3/14/1832 - 4/23/1865.
Hope this helps someone.
Hi all
I am related to a family of Church's and several appear to have links with
Burbage, Wiltshire.
John Church (b 1768 Burbage) m Betty Westbury
Son John Church (b 1797 Burbage) m Ann Rutt
Son David Church (b 1830 Burbage) m Amelia Lawrence
Son Charles Henry Church (b 1864 Burbage) m Emma Eastman
Son Albert Sidney Church (b 1903 Bradfield) m Emma Didcock (my grand parents)
Does anyone else have links with these people? I'd love to hear from you.
Regards
Paula Church
Does anyone have the birth and death dates of this Benjamin Church?
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>Yes. Benjamin Church, the appointed colonel of the French Indian wars, was
>the son of Richard and Elizabeth (Warren) Church. Her father, Richard
>Warren, came to America on the Mayflower. His daughters arrived later on
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>Judy Church Jones
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> > Some time ago, someone on this group explained the relationship between
> > Benjamin Church and the Churces of Massachusetts and Plymouth. I am
> > speaking of the Benjamin Church who supposedly had something to do with
> > the death of King Philip, the leader of the Native American uprising
> > called King Philip's War. Is there someone who can explain that lineage
> > to me? Was he related to the Church who married Richard Warren's
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