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Sharon and All,
This same person had contacted me and the following is the info she
sent when I asked for more (she gave me permission to forward it):
I HAVE VERY LITTLE INFO ABOUT MY FATHER AND HIS FAMILY. HERE'S WHAT I
DO HAVE.
MY FATHER'S NAME WAS JOHN WESLEY DENISON. BORN NOV. 17, 1903 IN MINE LA
MOTTE, MO. HIS FATHER'S NAME WAS ALSO JOHN WESLEY DENISON. HE MARRIED
A SUZIE (SUSIE) ELIZABETH? SHE WAS FULL BLOODED CHICKASAW (BUT FOUND A
JOHN W. DENISON MARRYING A FULL BLOODED CHOCTAW WOMAN ON DAWES FINAL
ROLL DATED 1896
WITH 3 SONS ALSO LISTED WITH THEM. NOT SURE IF THEY ARE MY
GRANDPARENTS, BUT VERY POSSIBLE. MARY WAS INTERCHANGEABLE FOR
ELIZABETH, OR SO I'VE BEEN TOLD.)
MY FATHER TOLD ME SEVERAL YEARS, BEFORE SHE PASSED AWAY, THAT OUR DAD'S
LINE ORIGINATED FROM ENGLAND.
MY GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY WHEN MY FATHER WAS A SMALL BOY. MY FATHER
WAS AROUND THE MIDDLE SON OF TEN CHILDREN. WHEN MY GRANDFATHER PASSED
AWAY, SUSIE PLACED CHILDREN IN ORPHANAGE, SO SHE COULD FIND ANOTHER MAN.
MEN BACK IN THOSE DAY'S DIDN'T WANT A WOMAN WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S
CHILDREN. SHE WAS ALSO INDIAN, SO EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND A MAN.
WHEN SHE WOULD FIND ONE,
SHE GRADUALLY RETURNED CHILDREN TO HER HOME. WITH EACH MAN, THEY EITHER
LEFT OR DIED AND THE PROCESS WOULD REPEAT IT'S SELF. ONE AND I BELIEVE
THE LAST MARRIAGE, WAS TO A CHUMBLY (CHUMBLEY.) SHE HAD CHILDREN FROM
EACH MAN.
WHILE MY FATHER WAS IN THE NAVY, HE LISTED HIS HALF-SISTER, ELIZABETH
CHUMBLEY AND HIS MOTHER SUZIE ELIZABETH CHUMBLEY AS PEOPLE TO CONTACT IN
CASE OF EMERGENCY. THEY WERE NOTED AS LIVING IN ILLINOIS AROUND 1924/5.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
KD
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Ford <denleeford(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:50 AM
Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Fw: chumbly surname
>Hi all,
>
>Can anyone help this person?
>
>Sharon
>
>----------
>> From: HONKQUACK(a)aol.com
>> To: denleeford(a)worldnet.att.net
>> Subject: chumbly surname
>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:23 PM
>>
>> hi, found your surname registry on rootsweb homepages. i notice you
have
>a
>> Chumbly listed in MO, USA. would you happen to have a Denison listed
in
>your
>> surnames also, maybe an aunt, uncle, cousin, etc.?
>> my father's name was john Denison. his father's name was john
Denison.
>he
>> married a full blooded Indian woman by the name of susie (Susie) ?.
when
>her
>> husband, john Denison passed away she eventually married a man with
>surname
>> Chumbly
>> thanks for any info, help you can give.
>> kd
>
>
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Hi all,
Can anyone help this person?
Sharon
----------
> From: HONKQUACK(a)aol.com
> To: denleeford(a)worldnet.att.net
> Subject: chumbly surname
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:23 PM
>
> hi, found your surname registry on rootsweb homepages. i notice you have
a
> Chumbly listed in MO, USA. would you happen to have a Denison listed in
your
> surnames also, maybe an aunt, uncle, cousin, etc.?
> my father's name was john Denison. his father's name was john Denison.
he
> married a full blooded Indian woman by the name of susie (Susie) ?. when
her
> husband, john Denison passed away she eventually married a man with
surname
> Chumbly
> thanks for any info, help you can give.
> kd
Hi Eddie,
I am planning on being there along with every Chumney in my family (almost). My
mother is flying up from Texas, my cousin from California, my uncle and aunts from
Memphis will all be there. Bells on every toe, even. Will be glad to meet you
and yours.
See you then cousin,
Vicki Hols-Hartness
EDWARD L CHUMNEY wrote:
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> >From: "Nell Thomason" <billnell(a)flash.net>
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> >I have forgotten-- when and where is the reunion? NT
> >
>
> June 12th, Scotts Hill, TN. For more info, call Leland Chumney
> at: (901) 968-5458
>
> I plan on being there along with my parents. Is anyone else
> from the newsgroup going to be there?
>
> Eddie Chumney
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Date: 15 April 1999, 11:45:31 EDT
From: CHUMBLEY at INTERNET
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CHUMBLEY-D(a)rootsweb.com
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>From: "Nell Thomason" <billnell(a)flash.net>
>To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Thanks to the volunteers
>
>I have forgotten-- when and where is the reunion? NT
>
June 12th, Scotts Hill, TN. For more info, call Leland Chumney
at: (901) 968-5458
I plan on being there along with my parents. Is anyone else
from the newsgroup going to be there?
Eddie Chumney
For your enjoyment:
>From HISTORY OF PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY, VIRGINIA, from its Earliest
Settlements through its Establishment in 1754 To its Bicentennial Year
by Herbert Clarence Bradshaw, the Dietz Press, Incorporated, Richmond,
Virginia:
"Among the games of ante-bellum days were chumney, cat, and bandy.
Chumney was similar to baseball, played with two teams, with batters,
pitchers, catchers, and fielders. The pitcher tried to pitch a good
ball, and the batter tried to knock the solid rubber ball out of sight.
A runner had to be hit when in motion to down him, and to go around the
ring, which was larger than a baseball diamond, twice was 'a real
accomplishment.' It required four players to play 'cat.' Pitchers
threw to batters, and the aim was to catch the batter out. Then pitcher
and batter exchanged places. Bandy was played with hickory or dogwood
sticks, used to try to force a small block of wood to the team's goal.
It was a fast, rough game, and bones were sometimes broken. It was the
only dangerous game of the day. Jumping, wrestling, boxing, running,
kite-flying, marble-shooting, and skating - in season - were other
sports for boys and young men."
In 1971 a friend of mine corresponded with a Mildred Steltzner who was
Editor of Hunting for Ancestors, a column carried in The
Kenbridge-Victoria Dispatch and The Charlotte Gazette.
She had in her family line : Ann Elizabeth White, born December 15,
1814, Lunenburg County, VA., died Eagle Lake, Colorado County, TX,
August 17, 1881. Buried Lakeside Cemetery. Married John Hamlin II on
January 25, 1835 in Lunenburg County, VA.
Her daughter, Martha White Hamlin, born 1843, Stoddard County, MO, died
July 14, 1927, Eagle Lake, Colorado County, TX. Married William
Montrevale Chumney January 27, 1863, Lunenburg County, VA. Children
were: William Hamlin Chumney, Mary Blanch Chumney, Aubrey Byrd Chumney,
Blanche Chumney, Annie Chumney, Mattie Grace Chumney, Inez Chumney, Ruby
Louise Chumney, and JOHN MATTHEWS CHUMNEY, born March 25, 1882,
Matthews, Colorado County, TX, died February 19, 1964, Eagle Lake,
Colorado County, TX. John Matthews Chumney married Lula Hartt July 12,
1916, Lovelady, TX. No children.
I don't know if this family information has been posted before nor do I
know whose line this might be. Hope it will be of use to someone.
Jo Collier
Glenda...There is a detailed account in the 1978 History of Dent County of
the tornado that destroyed the village of Condray. The author, S.H. Lay,
wrote it for the Salem News in response to the mention of that event in the
June 5, 1967 edition of the same paper.
This is the obituary of Sarah Condray that appeared in the Salem Monitor on
April 27, 1893, p.3, col. 3:
Mrs. T.H. Condray, wife of superintendent Condray of Hawkins Bank, died
Sunday night from injuries received in the cyclone that wrecked the little
village of Condray recently. She was only slightly injured in the hand and
arm by the wreck of her house, but blood poison set in and caused her
death. Whe was a most estimable lady and her death has caused heartfelt
sorrow among those who knew her in this county. The Monitor joins Mr.
Condray's many friends in offering sympathy in this great bereavement.
I got this obit from the Missouri State Historical Society Library, which
has many newspapers on microfilm. I'm sure you could get an account of the
tornado in an earlier edition of the Monitor from them also.
Sarah was the mother of my great-grandmother, Susan Condray Rhinehart. My
mother recalled that Grandma Rhinehart was always upset by approaching
thunderstorms.
Regards, Nancy Kendrick
NANCY L. KENDRICK wrote:
>
> Glenda...There is a detailed account in the 1978 History of Dent County of
> the tornado that destroyed the village of Condray. The author, S.H. Lay,
> wrote it for the Salem News in response to the mention of that event in the
> June 5, 1967 edition of the same paper.
>
> This is the obituary of Sarah Condray that appeared in the Salem Monitor on
> April 27, 1893, p.3, col. 3:
>
> Mrs. T.H. Condray, wife of superintendent Condray of Hawkins Bank, died
> Sunday night from injuries received in the cyclone that wrecked the little
> village of Condray recently. She was only slightly injured in the hand and
> arm by the wreck of her house, but blood poison set in and caused her
> death. Whe was a most estimable lady and her death has caused heartfelt
> sorrow among those who knew her in this county. The Monitor joins Mr.
> Condray's many friends in offering sympathy in this great bereavement.
>
> I got this obit from the Missouri State Historical Society Library, which
> has many newspapers on microfilm. I'm sure you could get an account of the
> tornado in an earlier edition of the Monitor from them also.
>
> Sarah was the mother of my great-grandmother, Susan Condray Rhinehart. My
> mother recalled that Grandma Rhinehart was always upset by approaching
> thunderstorms.
>
> Regards, Nancy Kendrick
Thanks for the information. I will pass it along to Arvie.
Thanks,
Glenda Bales Mounger
>
> > Hello everyone on the Chumley line that are in the state of
Texas.
>
> > Please write about this bill, we need your help.
>
> > Glenda
>
>
> > Hello everyone!
>
> > I am forwarding this e-mail from Jack Brissee, Chair, FGS/NGS
Records
> > Preservation Committee. We need to send letters ASAP! I know as
> > genealogists we can and will make a difference!
>
> > Thank all of you for your help in this matter of great concern.
>
> > Paula Parke, Texas State Genealogical Society, District
Representative
> > for Collin, Dallas, Ellis, Fannin, Grayson, Hunt, Kaufman,
Rockwall
> > Counties
>
> > 19 April 1999
>
> > The Honorable Florence Shapiro
> > Chair, Senate Committee on State Affairs
> > P.O. Box 12068
> > Capitol Station
> > Austin, TX 78711
>
> > Dear Senator Shapiro:
>
> > I am writing on behalf of genealogists in Texas and nationwide
with
> > respect to House Bill 836, an act relating to access under the
public
> > information law to birth and death indexes. HB 836 has been
referred to
> > the Senate Committee on State Affairs, but as far as I can
determine,
> > has not yet been scheduled for public hearing or committee
action. I
> > urge you to ensure that a full public hearing on this bill is
conducted,
> > one for which genealogists are given adequate notice and at which
they
> > have full opportunity to testify.
>
> > The bill was introduced with the purpose of clarifying the right
of
> > public access to indexes of birth and death records. The records
> > themselves are closed for 50 and 25 years, respectively (Sec.
552.115,
> > Government Code), but the Code makes no mention of indexes. HB
836, as
> > introduced stated that birth or death indexes are "public
information
> > and available to the public." The House Committee on Public
Health
> > adopted an amendment to the bill which would make the indexes
"available
> > to the public upon the anniversary of the date on which the
record
> > becomes public..." (emphasis added) thus completely reversing the
> > purpose of the bill as introduced. This totally contrary version
of HB
> > 836 is the way in which it passed the House and has been referred
to
> > your committee. I am unable to find any record of the basis for
this
> > remarkable change, and genealogists learning of it have been, to
say the
> > least, shocked.
>
> > The change to the purpose of HB 836 is quite incomprehensible and
is
> > certainly contrary to the basic thrust of Chapter 552, Public
> > Information, of the Government Code, which proclaims the
principle that
> > public records should be open to the public unless there is very
good
> > reason to close them, and which places the burden of proof on
those who
> > would seek closure. The indexes involved provide but limited
personal
> > information (name, county and date of birth or death, and the
file
> > number of the birth or death record) thus posing no threat to
privacy.
> > The limited information is, however, important to genealogists
and
> > others who have legitimate reasons to know the dates and general
> > locations of the birth and death of persons in their family
lines. I am
> > therefor appealing to you and your committee to ensure that the
right
> > of genealogists and other members of the public to access to
these
> > indexes is protected.
>
> > With sincere appreciation for your consideration.
>
> > Respectfully,
>
>
>
> > John A. Brissee
> > Chair, Joint Committee on Records Preservation and Access,
Federation of
> > Genealogical Societies and the National Genealogical Society
> > 529 Echo Valley Road, Brooklyn, WI 53521 Fax: 835-9750
E-mail:
> > jbrissee(a)execpc.com
>
>
>
> > This message is from the RECORDS PRESERVATION AND ACCESS
COMMITTEE of the
> > FGS and NGS
>
> > By now you have probably heard something about Texas House Bill
386, an act
> > relating to access under the public information law to birth and
death
> > indexes. This bill, if passed into law, would close birth and
death indexes
> > for 50 and 25 years, respectively, following the event. The
attachment to
> > this message provides detailed information.
>
> > Mic Barnette alerted me to this situation. He has taken action to
pass the
> > word and to encourage Texans to write the Chair of the Texas
Senate
> > Committee on State Affairs in an attempt to have the bill changed
or
> > defeated. I am contacting you to encourage the involvement of the
Texas
> > State Genealogical Society and the Dallas Genealogical Society in
this
> > effort. We would specifically urge that your members write Sen.
Florence
> > Shapiro, Chair of the State Affairs Committee, members of the
committee,
> > and the state senators for their districts to ask that there be a
full
> > hearing at which genealogists have the opportunity to testify
before any
> > further action is taken on HB 386. Letters, messages and phone
calls should
> > be civil, rational, and should ask for sensible action such as
early
> > notification of hearings and the opportunity to testify.
>
> > Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> > Jack Brissee, Chair, FGS/NGS Records Preservation and Access
Committee
Dear All,
Just some new information, general for all of us to use. Our Geno. soc.
presented a prog form Leslie Smith Collier on Estates Sale.
I will attempt to give you'all a quick run down for most of this will be
taken from my notes, cannot always read what I put down.
Estate Sales of Personal Property of dec. person
*Heir buys against his share*. (Cyndi I think you ask why a wife
would buy her own tea pot).
Attended primarly by family member and neighbors.
(Fair way to dist estate)
Outsiders who purchase must pay.
Real estate is usually not included.
Who might have an estate sale?
Ancestors who died with or without a will.
Families across the southern and middle region of the U.S.
Time ranging from the mid 1700's thur the mid 1800's.
Ancestors with some possessions.
Where are the records? Sorry I did not get all of this copyed.
At the county courthouse.
In the minutes of the county court.
In the case file.
To effect. evulate transcribe the sale list.
Set up information under headings.
Items number on the the list.
Buyers surname.
Buyers first name.
Buyers age.
Name of the item. (This helps estab. possibly what business or
what business they might not have been in).
Catog. of item.
Purchase amount. (This will give you the names of the big spenders).
Total spent by each purchase.
Comment space.
1. Widow.
2. Older Adult Children.
3. Close neighbors.
4. Less close neighbors.
On the age of males in Tenn. only taxable the yr at age 21, must have
turned 21 before March 15, to be taxed and consid. adult, in Tenn.
How is the list organized?
All itms purchased by a sinle buyer are listed together next to his
or her name.
Inv. order with name of buyer given next to the item pruchased.
Categorizing the items sold-
Remember you invent these & may change them at will. (Leslie suggest
you put them to graphs, ha, ha, me.??????) Oh well, some of you all can
do it, it really helps you to see everything.
Occupation
Farm
Animal
Domestic
Education
Personal
Miscellaneous
Run two different printouts
One list sorted by category of items.
This list describes the deceased and his family.
A second list sorted by buyer.
This list describes each individual buyer.
A list of inv. of his goods and chattels.
Occupation
Lifestyle
Maintance his own household
Rich or of modest means
Literate
Is there "girl stuff"(On this did one male buy all girl stuff)and
who was it, could be buying for female heir.
A slave owner
Military regalia (This on Leslie's showed there were no guns in
the house even though her anc. could have been in the AR, as
it turned out they were Quakers)
Personal items
What is misssing
Fine tune and re-sort
Focus on the buyers as a group?
Total # of purchaseers? Men? Women?
With the decendent's surname?
Names with more than l buyer?
First names that mirror the ancestor's family?
Ages of purchasers?
Members both the nuclear and extended family?
Neighbors or close associates?
Any one missing who should be there, but is not?
Sound the alert-who might be heirs?
Begin by looking for patterns:
Who has the decedants' surname?
How much does each spend?
In what order do they buy?
Leslie will give us a real handout next mo. but I hope this might help
some of you on reading some of your wills and estate sales. The less
amount of real estate someone has the more prev. you will find an estate
sale for there poss. Start looking.
Don't know how many of you all already had this information.
Arvie gave me this today, and she did not ever rec. a copy of this, do
any of you have this.
Will of Robert Chumley, Roll #71-CV4MS-2325 R-A. She said the last R.
could be a P, she could not read it. Dent Co., Mo.
Also Sarah Ann Condray and I think Arvie said her husband was killed in
a Tornado that came thru Mo., could there be any old news papers on
this??
Also was in the Lib. waiting for DRT meeting, found book, TENNESSEE
WILLS AND ADM 1779-1861 by Sistler
It stated most of this is on file at the Tenn state arv.
Also a note by Sistler: It sould be remembered inc. that wills and
other estate records are not always found in the county where the dec.
had lived.
Chumbley, Joseph 1843 will book-f-186* (Hn. Co.)
William 1832 will book-#97 (Wilson Co., 1802)
Chumley, Ballard 1849 will book-#164 (Wilson Co.,)
Daniel 1846 Will book-#150 (Wilson Co., )
John 1850? Inv. Book-1-186 (Claib. Co.)
Richard 1861 will book=#133 (Wilson Co.)
The * and ? were put down when a number or letter could not be read.
Do any of you have these papers?????? Please note all where listed in
Wilson, with the exception of Jospeh and John.
If you have any questions on the estate sale let me know I possibly
could answer a few questions, I know without seeing the visual it would
not be totally clear.
Always,
Glenda
Shirley,
Hi! I know, copies are expensive! The 83 pages are $30. I sure
hope they are worth it! I find it interesting that the West is more
expensive than the East. When I have sent for records in TN and KY they
are incredibly cheap, but when I send to MO or OK they are the same as
TX. I'll let you all know what is in the pages as soon as I receive it.
Cyndi
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Smith <sacsmith(a)usunwired.net>
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Pension Files
>Please also let us know how much it is per page or per whatever after
the
>$10.00 - 40 pages! Finding all this gets to be quite expensive.
Georgia is
>MOST expensive...I just paid $25.00 for copies of muster roll
>records...three xeroxed pages, legal size...that DID include
research...big
>deal! I furnished all the information! Death certificates in Texas
are
>$9.00, certified, most of the time all we need or want is a copy or
what is
>referred to as "a true copy", we don't need certified, also marriage
license
>records are $5.00 up. ONE isn't bad, no one can balk at that, but after
>you've been at this a good while, it all mounts up, doesn't it? Got a
great
>death certificate the other day,Not a Chumley line, by the way, but
for
>those of you with a great sense of humor...Name of Father:
Moore
>(which, of course, I knew, I provided THAT MUCH) Maiden Name of Mother
>Unknown, Places of birth for both Unknown!!!! I realize the people
giving
>the "information" are responsible and that is MOST AGGRAVATING!!! But
we
>still have to pay $9.00 for a certified copy and not $2.00 or $3.00
for a
>true copy. Or just plain old $1.00 for a xerox copy! Did some really
NOT
>know the answers or were they just being evasive or were they
suspicious of
>the person asking the questions? This is 1913-1918 era. I can
understand
>them being wary of the census taker and all, and times certainly were
>different! Any way, just my 2 cents worth. I know this isn't the
forum
>for it, but can anyone out there tell my why they got rid of the cent
sign
>over the number 6 and replaced it with the rooftop? What are we going
to do
>w/ a rooftop? I know certain programs can be made to make the 1/4 and
1/2
>signs, but I'd still refer to have that all the time instead of
preferred
>programs. Just wondering. Shirley
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Galati 4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
>To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 6:49 AM
>Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Pension Files
>
>
>>Hi, All! Those of you that have ever sent to the National Archives
for
>>records might find this helpful. When I sent for Samuel Chumbley's
>>records I received 40 pages. I was sure there was more so I wrote
them
>>a letter to ask how to get the additional files. I finally received
an
>>answer! The $10 you send in only covers 40 pages of copies. Any more
>>than that are put in a separate file. There is actually a Form 80-A
>>that is "National Archives Citation For Remaining Documents--Pension
>>File". There are an additional 83 pages in his file! They do not
copy
>>the pages until they receive your money. It takes 8-10 weeks. I will
>>let you know what I receive when the file comes!
>> Cyndi
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>
Please also let us know how much it is per page or per whatever after the
$10.00 - 40 pages! Finding all this gets to be quite expensive. Georgia is
MOST expensive...I just paid $25.00 for copies of muster roll
records...three xeroxed pages, legal size...that DID include research...big
deal! I furnished all the information! Death certificates in Texas are
$9.00, certified, most of the time all we need or want is a copy or what is
referred to as "a true copy", we don't need certified, also marriage license
records are $5.00 up. ONE isn't bad, no one can balk at that, but after
you've been at this a good while, it all mounts up, doesn't it? Got a great
death certificate the other day,Not a Chumley line, by the way, but for
those of you with a great sense of humor...Name of Father: Moore
(which, of course, I knew, I provided THAT MUCH) Maiden Name of Mother
Unknown, Places of birth for both Unknown!!!! I realize the people giving
the "information" are responsible and that is MOST AGGRAVATING!!! But we
still have to pay $9.00 for a certified copy and not $2.00 or $3.00 for a
true copy. Or just plain old $1.00 for a xerox copy! Did some really NOT
know the answers or were they just being evasive or were they suspicious of
the person asking the questions? This is 1913-1918 era. I can understand
them being wary of the census taker and all, and times certainly were
different! Any way, just my 2 cents worth. I know this isn't the forum
for it, but can anyone out there tell my why they got rid of the cent sign
over the number 6 and replaced it with the rooftop? What are we going to do
w/ a rooftop? I know certain programs can be made to make the 1/4 and 1/2
signs, but I'd still refer to have that all the time instead of preferred
programs. Just wondering. Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Galati 4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 6:49 AM
Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Pension Files
>Hi, All! Those of you that have ever sent to the National Archives for
>records might find this helpful. When I sent for Samuel Chumbley's
>records I received 40 pages. I was sure there was more so I wrote them
>a letter to ask how to get the additional files. I finally received an
>answer! The $10 you send in only covers 40 pages of copies. Any more
>than that are put in a separate file. There is actually a Form 80-A
>that is "National Archives Citation For Remaining Documents--Pension
>File". There are an additional 83 pages in his file! They do not copy
>the pages until they receive your money. It takes 8-10 weeks. I will
>let you know what I receive when the file comes!
> Cyndi
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>
Hi, All! Those of you that have ever sent to the National Archives for
records might find this helpful. When I sent for Samuel Chumbley's
records I received 40 pages. I was sure there was more so I wrote them
a letter to ask how to get the additional files. I finally received an
answer! The $10 you send in only covers 40 pages of copies. Any more
than that are put in a separate file. There is actually a Form 80-A
that is "National Archives Citation For Remaining Documents--Pension
File". There are an additional 83 pages in his file! They do not copy
the pages until they receive your money. It takes 8-10 weeks. I will
let you know what I receive when the file comes!
Cyndi
Rootsweb Sponsor
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D R Y E R, G O O D M A N, H A L E Y,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie Chumney <chumney(a)bright.net>
To: chumbley-l(a)rootsweb.com <chumbley-l(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 5:10 PM
Subject: {not a subscriber} A Chumley researcher
>venita blue wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eddie,
>>
>> My name is Venita Blue and I am researching the Chumley line (my
>> husbands family). I have run across your webpage on geocity today and
>> have found some listing of my family. I was wondering if you have any
>> more information that is not on this page. I am a direct descendant
of
>> John and Delilah Chumley. I assume that Johns parents are Richard and
>> Grace Milam Chumley Please verify this for me and do you have any
>> more information on this line. I'll close till I hear from you
>>
>> Venita Blue
>>
>
>
> Venita,
>
> From the best of my research, John's parents are Richard and Grace
>Milam Chumley. All of the information that I have on Richard and Grace
>Milam and John and Delilah Chumley is listed at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2175/chumney.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2175/chumney_researchers.html
>
>
> There are several Chumley researchers who are related to John
Chumley
>and Delilah Russell. Actually, I have ALOT of information about this
>family at my Webiste.
>
> I would also encourage you to join the Chumley/Chumbley/Chumney
>newsgroup. There are several members of this newsgroup who would be
>related to you. The address is: (chumbley-l(a)rootsweb.com).
>
> Can you please send me how you are related to John and Delilah
>Chumley? I will add this information to my Webpage when I receive it
and
>put it together with others who are related to John and Delilah Chumley
>for the benefit of other Chumley researchers.
>
> Your very distant cousin,
>
> Eddie Chumney
>
Eddie,
I ordered the microfilm for Tn. for the census records.However, i was unable
to accomplish my mission. I have been ill since 12 Feb and am not showing
any signs of getting back on my feet soon. I still have to get my house on
the market to sell and need to do it two months ago. If there is someone
who can researcfh sooner than I, please let them. It may take me 2-3 months
to get out of here at the rate I am going. I am just sorry that it is
taking so long.
I am looking forward to meeting you at the reunion in June.
Your cousin,
Jo Ann Aaron-Crosby
Dear Cousins,
This is my second installment to Eddie Chumney's project to catalog all the
US Census data for our Chumney/Chumley/Chumbley families. I realize that I
skipped over the 1870 and 1880 Censuses for Alabama. I'll return to fill
those in later.
Enjoy,
Jim Chumney
Phoenix, Arizona
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The Chumneys, Chumleys, Chumbleys in the 1900 Alabama US Census are:
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Dekalb County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 66, pg, 7
Charlie Chumley, white, male, b. Jan 1879, birthplace Alabama
Elizabeth Chumley, female, b. Nov 1884, birthplace Alabama
*** Lodger with Alexander Graves ***
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Dekalb County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 65, pg 13
George W. Chumley, white, male, b. Oct 1844, birthplace Alabama
..... Ruth E., wife, b. Apr 1833, South Carolina
..... Ezra, grandson, b. Jan 1892, Alabama
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Dekalb County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 75, pg 3
John C. Chumley, white, male, b. Feb 1875, birthplace Alabama
..... Delia S., wife, b. Dec ??, birthplace Georgia
..... Charlsie E., daughter, Apr 1897, birthplace Alabama
..... May C., daughter, Dec 1897, birthplace Alabama
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Dekalb County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 65, pg 12
Polk Chumley, white, male, b. May 1850, birthplace Alabama
..... Ellen, wife, b. Dec 1851, birthplace Alabama
..... Mary, daughter, b. Sept 1875, birthplace Alabama
..... Willie, daughter, b. Dec 1881, birthplace Alabama
..... Timothy, son, b. Nov 1885, birthplace Alabama
..... Wesley, son, b. Apr 1889, birthplace Alabama
..... Conner, son, b. Apr 1891, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Etowah County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 156, pg 8
Maron B. Chumly, white, male, b. June 1852, birthplace Alabama
..... Nancy J., wife, b. Aug 1852, birthplace Alabama
..... Dowdy, son, b. June 1879, birthplace Alabama
..... Titus G., son, b. July 1882, birthplace Alabama
..... Edgar M., son, b. Feb 1888, birthplace Alabama
..... Willie A., daughter, b. May 1890, birthplace Alabama
..... Noah, son, b. Aug 1892, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Etowah County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED 156, Pg 8
Dock B. Chumley, white, male, b. June 1855, birthplace Alabama
..... May E., wife, b. Dec 1856, birthplace Alabama
..... Dactar M., son, b. Mar 1887, birthplace Alabama
..... Cid R., son, b. Jan 1890, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Etowah County, Alabama, Soundex Tape #1241887, ED 156, pg 8
William F. Chumbley, white, male, b. Jan 1873, birthplace Alabama
..... Cinthy C., wife, b. Aug 1872, birthplace Alabama
..... Joshua P., son, b. Sept 1899, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Etowah County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED156, Pg 9
Willie C. Chumley, white, male, Dec 1875, birthplace Alabama
..... Ider B., wife, Feb 1876, birthplace Alabama
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Geneva County, Alabama, 30 June 1900 , FHC Soundex Tape #1241886, ED72, Pg
27
John A. Chumney, white, male, age 40, farmer, birthplace Alabama
..... Mary E., wife, 35, birthplace Alabama
..... Robert A., son, 11, birthplace Alabama
..... Nancy J., daughter, 9, birthplace Alabama
..... Lucy J., daughter, 9, birthplace Alabama
..... Iola R., daughter, 7, birthplace Alabama
..... Walter P., son, 6, birthplace Alabama
..... John S., son, 2, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Henry County, Alabama, June 4, 1900, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED98, Pg 3
Richard Chumley, white, male, b. Nov 1831, male, farmer, birthplace
Alabama
..... Jennie, b.Mar 1873, wife, birthplace Alabama
..... Louis, son, b. Dec 1891, birthplace Alabama
..... Norma, daughter, b. Feb 1893, birthplace Alabama
..... George, son, b. Aug 1895, birthplace Alabama
..... Jenie, daughter, b. Jan 1900, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
Henry County, Alabama, June 4, 1900, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED98, Pg 3
Sarah Chumley, white, female, b. Mar 1850, farmer, birthplace Alabama
..... Johnie, son, b. July 1882, farm labor, birthplace Alabama
..... Georgia, daughter, b. Aug 1884, farm labor, birthplace Alabama
..... Ida, daughter, b. Apr 1887, farm labor, birthplace Alabama
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Henry County, Alabama, June 4, 1900, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888, ED98, Pg 3
Tiler Chumley, white, male, b. Aug 1876, birthplace Alabama
..... Corra, wife, b. Oct 1878, birthplace Florida
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Jefferson County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888 ED128, Pg 19
John R. Chumley, white, male, b. Feb 1858, birthplace Tennessee
*** Lodger with Carlos P. Owen ***
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Montgomery County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888 ED107, Pg 11
John M. Chumley, white, male, b. Sept 1865, birthplace Tennessee
..... Addie, wife, b. Jan 1873, birthplace Georgia
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Winston County, Alabama, FHC Soundex Tape #1241888 ED159, Pg 1
Fanny Chumley, white, female, b. Feb 1862, birthplace Alabama
..... Lizzie Chumley, daughter, b. Jul 1886, birthplace Alabama
============================================================
##### END 1900 Alabama Soundex for Chumneys, Chumleys, Chumbleys ####