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Hi, All! I was working on taxes today and came across this site:
http://www.unclaimed.org/offices/index.html
It is for unclaimed money located in each state. You might want to
try it. We found some in NY. I found it interesting that there are
Chumbley/Chumleys listed in MO and LOTS listed in CA. It was fun!
Who knows you might actually find some!
Good Luck and God Bless,
Cyndi
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Surnames: D R Y E R, C H U M B L E Y, C R A B T R E E, H A L E Y,
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Hi, All! I had sent a query about Polk County, MO Tax Records
requesting a lookup for Slatten, Chumbley, and Goodman listings of
various spellings. This is the answers I have received:
1841 only a William Goodman
1844 only Sampson Goodman
1848--Sampson Goodman was the only one found.
1854 Tax book no Chumbly any spelling
Sampson Goodman in S 5,T 31 R 24
no Slatten
1861 Tax book --Sampson Goodman was found also F.M. Goodman. No other
of
your names.
Good Luck and God Bless,
Cyndi
Finally! Here is my genealogy for this subject. Besides a lot of
personal research in courthouses, libraries, personal interviews, Bible
records, etc., a lot of this information has been contributed by so many
nice people. I owe a great thanks to them and to this wonderful mail
list. I am sure there are errors in this material and I will certainly
welcome all corrections, sources, any additional information you might
be able to contribute.
JOHN CHUMLEY OF SAN AUGUSTINE COUNTY, TEXAS
John Chumley left Missouri in the year A. D. 1815. He was on his way to
Texas during the battle of New Orleans. He crossed the Red River and
settled at Pecan Point in the year 1815. Some of the persons who came
at the same time were Peter Young Willoby (?), Pool, single men Martin
Varner, John Jones, David McCoy, Sherman, Issac Jackson and Chandler.
They remained there several years. (Papers Concerning Robertson's Colony
in Texas compiled and edited by Malcolm D. McClean, Vol. VII and VIII.)
In 1818 John Chumley was located on a tract of land north of the Red
River between Clear Creek and Garland Creek in what was called Old
Miller County, The Territory of Arkansas. In the year 1821 a petition
was signed by many settlers and sent to the United States Government
asking that their lands not be given to the Choctaw Nation of Indians
for settlement. John Chumley and David McCoy, who had married John
Chumley's daughter Gincy, were among those who signed of this petition.
He then purchased land located South of the Red River and a little
Northeast of the town of Jonesborough from Adam Lawrence in the year
1822. He already had settled on and claimed title to a contiguous tract
of land. In 1825 his name appeared on another petition to the
government regarding settlement of lands Miller County, Territory of
Arkansas. ("The Territorial Papers of the United States, The Territory
of Arkansas" , compiled and edited by Clarence Edwin Carter - Vol. XIX,
1819-1825 and Vol. XX, 1825-1829. Also, " Six Months from Tennessee" by
Skipper Steely.) According to a land survey done for John Chumley on
April 30, 1830, he was in San Augustine County, Texas. He filed for an
original land grant for this acreage and was granted the land by the
State of Texas on February 1, 1838. There was not enough land in this
tract to satisfy original settlers rights to land grants and John
Chumley was granted another league of land on the Little Brazos River
(located in Robertsons Colony lands) and later one (1) league of land
in what is presently known as Fisher County, Texas. It is not believed
that John Chumley ever lived on either of the latter two land grants.
He died in San Augustine County on February 14, 1859.
The following information has been derived from personal research of
Federal census and library records, personal research and family
knowledge from other descendants of John Chumley's family:
DESCENDANTS OF JOHN CHUMLEY
Generation No. 1
John Chumley - b ca 1770-1775 in VA d Feb 14,1859
San Augustine Co, TX.
Source: Family Bible of Lucinda Chumley
1st marriage possibly Feb 11, 1893, Halifax Co, VA,
to Elizabeth Mayes
2nd marriage possibly June 14, 1800, Halifax Co, VA,
to Isabell Boyd
3rd marriage possibly to Delilah Russell
Source: Marriages Nos 1 and 2 recorded in Early Marriages
Halifax County, VA. 3rd marriage unknown but passed
down by descendants of John and Delilah.
Children of John Chumley:
a. Sarah Chumley, b ca 1795 VA
(Possibly daughter of Elizabeth Mayes)
b. Gincy McCoy, b ca 1801 VA or TN
(Possibly daughter of Isabell Boyd)
Children of John Chumley and Delilah Russell are:
a. Armstead Chumley, b ca 1806 AK;
d 1850-1860 Angelina Co, TX
b. Hannah Chumley, b ca 1812 AK;
d June 05, 1871, San Augustine Co, TX
c. Thomas Chumley, b ca 1817 TX;
d. November 03, 1893, San Augustine Co, TX
d. Alexander Chumley, b ca 1827, AK:
d. April 27, 1861, San Augustine, Co, TX
e. Gardner Chumley, b September 29, 1830 TX;
d. June 18, 1898, Milam Co, TX
f. Drury (Drewery) Chumley, b January 08, 1832, TX;
d. January 06, 1906, San Augustine Co, TX.
Generation No. 2
Sarah Chumley (John) was born ca 1795 in VA. Married
Thomas Monroe Scott April 21, 1816 in Cadron Twp.,
Arkansas Co, AK Territory.
Children of Sarah Chumley and Thomas Scott are:
a. Nancy Scott, b ca 1819; m. John Richards
b. William M. Scott, b ca 1822; m. Nancy Hunt
c. Rebecca Scott, b ca 1826; m 1st _____ Martin,
2nd Garrison Anderson
Gincy Chumley (John) was born ca 1801 in VA or TN. Married David McCoy.
Children of Gincy Chumley and David McCoy are:
a. John McCoy, b ca 1822 (? a son?)
b. Frances McCoy, b ca 1823
c. Stephen R. McCoy, b ca 1828
d. Nathan McCoy, b ca 1834
e. T. T. McCoy, b ca 1838 (female)
f. Malissa A. McCoy, b ca 1841
Armstead Chumley, b ca 1806 in AK, d ca 1850-1860 in Angelina County,
TX. He
married Harriett Bridges November 12, 1837 in San Augustine County, TX.
Children of Armstead and Harriett Bridges are:
a. Martha Chumley, b ca 1832
b. Thomas Chumley, b ca 1834
c. John Chumley, b ca 1836
d. James Alexander Chumley, b ca 1841
e. Mary M. Chumley, b ca 1844
f. Clanrid Chumley, b ca 1851
Hannah Chumley was b ca 1812 in AK, d June 05, 1871 in San Augustine
County,
TX. It is thought she married a man named C. Boone. The only record
found
Hannah and the children lived with John Chumley and went by the name
of Chumley
Children of Hannah Chumley are:
a. Aaron Chumley, b ca 1836
b. Thomas Monroe Chumley, b ca April 23, 1838
Thomas Chumley b ca 1817 in TX, d November 03, 1893 in San Augustine
County,
TX. He married Nancy Willingham February 27, 1843 in San Augustine
County, TX.
Children of Thomas Chumley and Nancy Willingham are:
a. James Robert (Bob) Chumley, b ca 1844
b. Sarah Isabella Chumley, b ca 1845; md George W. Thompson
June 29, 1965
c. John Chumley, b ca 1847
d. Mary Chumley, b ca 1849
e. Susan Chumley, b ca 1851; md Kenneth L. Berry
f. Amanda E. Chumley, b ca 1852; md Rufus Loggins January 13, 1871,
San Augustine County, TX
g. Easter Chumley, b ca 1853; md Richard (Dick) Rash, July 31, 1872
h. Eliza Chumley, b ca 1855; md Charlie Epps, March 01, 1871
i. Henderson Chumley, b August 23, 1856, San Augustine County, TX;
d March 04, 1935, San Augustine County, TX; md (1) Victoria
Henry; md Missouri (Zou) Hardy
j. Thomas Alexander Chumley, b February 22, 1858; d March 28,
1904; md Evalyn Frances Haygood.
k. Isaac Chumley, b May, 1860
l. William Crouch Chumley, b September 08, 1862; md Sally Asborn
Hardy, January 18, 1883
m. Genia Chumley, md Bill McKinney
n. Jackie Chumley, md John Hardy
Gardner Chumley was born September 29, 1830, in San Augustine County,
TX.
and d June 18, 1898, Milam County, TX. He married Lucinda Bullock,
November 11, 1847, in TX
Children of Gardner Chumley and Lucinda Bullock are:
a. Jane Chumley, b November 08, 1848, San Augustine County, TX
b. John A. Chumley, b February 28, 1850, San Augustine County, TX;
d January 30, 1877, Milam County, TX; m Mary M. Eubanks, August
13, 1875, Bell County, TX
c. Russell D. Chumley, b January 10, 1852, San Augustine County,
TX; md Daisie Parker, March 20, 1881, Milam County, TX
d. William Chumley, b December 31, 1853; d July 04, 1870,
Milam County, TX
e. Lizabeth Chumley, b July 31, 1856, Milam County, TX;
d November 24, 1886, Bell County, TX; md William L. Harris, June
18, 1874, Bell County, TX
f. Joseph G. Chumley, b September 15, 1858, Milam County, TX;
d January 18, 1929, Angelina County, TX; md Alice Estes,
September 07, 1882, Yarrelton, Milam County, TX
g. Josephine Chumley, b September 15, 1858; d November 14, 1868,
Milam County, TX
h.. Zorah Chumley, b January 31, 1862, San Augustine County, TX;
d May 12, 1912, Falls County, TX; md Lee Peters
i. Ben F. Chumley, b May 25, 1864; d January 01, 1941;
md Louis Odom, November 22, 1893
j. Sam Houston Chumley, b April 17, 1866, San Augustine County, TX;
d March 07, 1944, Big Spring, Howard County, TX; md Sarah
Elizabeth Coleman, December 12, 1889, Houston County, TX
Drury Chumley was b January 08, 1832, in San Augustine County, TX;
d January 06, 1906 in San Augustine County, TX. He married Martha
Jane Hale September 15, 1853 in San Augustine County, TX.
Children of Drury Chumley and Martha Jane Hale are:
a. Mary Chumley, b October 29, 1854; d August 27, 1921; md James
(Jim) Ferguson, December 31, ____
b. Ellen Chumley, b April 23, 1857; d May 14, 1937; md John Pickard
c. William (Willie) Alexander Chumley, b February 01, 1861;
d December 29, 1940; md Nannie E. McCall, January 15, 1881
d. Drewery Chumley, Jr., b September 27, 1867; d September 21, 1950;
md (1) Frankie Berry; md (2) Nan Berry
e. Martha Jane Chumley, b May 28, 1869; d March 20, 1914;
md Taylor T. Haygood
f. Annie Eugenia Chumley, b October 23, 1872; d June 15, 1957;
md John Warren Haygood
g. Sam Gardner Chumley, b May 26, 1875, San Augustine County, TX;
d February 18, 1955, Houston, Harris County, TX;
md Bessie Elizabeth Golden, February 06, 1906, Houston,
Harris County, TX
h. Joseph Charles Chumley, b January 12, 1877; d December 04, 1962;
md Virginia Maud Warren, November 1899.
i. Jonnie Chumley, b ______________ (died young)
j. Tommie Chumley, b _____________ (died young)
Submitted to Jo M. (Chumley) Collier
I have a copy of a record from San Augustine:
State of Texas, County of San Augustine, December Term 1859
Alex Chumley and Thomas Chumley petitioned the court for division of
property. There belonged to said estates 1172 acres of land lying in San
Aug. Co. and fourteen negroes.
They state: "And that Gardner Chumley, Hannah Boone, Drewy Chumley of the
Co. of San Aug. in said state. And the heirs of Armstead Chumley, Deceased
(who was a son of the said John Chumley Dec'd) Viz: Martha Chumley, Thomas
Chumley, Jr., John Chumley Jr. and James A. Chumley, Jr., all of the County
of Angelina in said State, Gincy McCoy daughter of the said John Chumley who
intermarried with David McCoy of the county of Shelby in said State. And the
heirs of Sarah Scott, Deceased, who was a daughter of the said John Chumley
decd. and who was intermarried with one Thomas Scott now deceased. The
heirs of the said Sarah Scott are Rebecca Anderson wife of Oarrison (?)
Anderson of Panola County in said State, Nancy Richards wife of John
Richards whose residence is to your petitioners unknown. And the heirs of
William Scott deceased who was a son of said Sarah Scott who was the
daughter of the said Chumley, Decd, viz: Elizabeth Scott, Ann Scott,
Isabelle Scott and Thomas Scott (who are minors under the age of 21 years
and without Guardians)..." In acknowledging service, Gincy McCoy signed
with her mark.
In Probate Court in January Term AD 1860:
"And comes Alex Chumley & Thomas Chumley leave of the Court being first had
& obtained and file their Amended Petition and allege that Alex Chumley,
Thomas Chumley, Gardner Chumley, Drury Chumley, Hannah Boone, Gincy McCoy,
the heirs of Armstead Chumley Decd. and the heirs of Sarah Scott Deceased
are the legal heirs and representative of the Estate of John Chumley Decd
and are entitled to distributive shares in said Estate share and share
alike. And further that Alex Chumley, Thomas Chumley, Gardner Chumley,
Drewy Chumley, Hannah Boon and the heirs of Armstead Chumley Decd are the
legal heirs and Representatives of the Estates of John & Delilah Chumley
Decd. and are entitled to distributive shares in said estates share and
share alike. And for further Amendment would allege that Gincy McCoy and
the heirs of Sarah Scott are kindred by the half blood and are only entitled
to half shares in said Estates; they pray therefore that the said Estates of
John & Delelah Chumley Decd. be divided into Two Equal shares and that one
of said shares be divided equally between the heirs and legal
representatives of John Chumley decd. that is to say Thomas Chumley, Alex
Chumley, Gardner Chumley, Drury Chumley, Hannah Boon, Gincy McCoy the heirs
and legal representatives of Sarah Scott Decd. and the other half to be
divided between the heirs and legal representatives of John & Delelah
Chumley Decd. that is to say Thomas Chumley Alex Chumley Gardner Chumley
Drury Chumley, Hannah Boon & the heirs and legal representatives of Armstead
Chumley, Decd. this Amendment made and file to the Original Petition herein
filed."
Appears the estate was valued at $18,014.05.
The next time I get to San Aug. I will see if there are any Panola and
Shelby County Cemetery records which list dates of death for any of the
above.
Shirley Smith
Shirley, I live on the Sabine River north of Greenville, Texas. We can hop
over the Sabine about 6 miles north of our home. We still have a number of
people, who go to church with us, who never learned to play cards or
dominoes because they were not allowed in the home. We are planning a trip
to Tenn this summer, we may have to make another one down toward Houston.
When my husband points the car toward Tenn nothing but a Dairy Queen stops
him- cold drink and a rest room. So we will make 2 trips. Again, I love
your writings and plan to make copies for my grand sons. < Nell
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>
>X-Message: #2
>Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:24:29 EST
>From RChum69266(a)aol.com
>To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Richard Chumbley Lineage & Questions
>
>To all.
>
>
>His Father: *John Henry (Thomas) Chumbley born 1809
> in Amelia, Giles, VA
> died 1855
> married Malinda Sharp; October 1830; ,,TN
> Children:(F) Elinor born 1832
> (M) William born 1834
> (M) John born 1836
> (M) Vardman
> (M) *Samuel Clemens Chandler born 25 March 1843
> (F) Margaret born 1846
> (F) America born 4 March 1851
>
>His Father: *Robert Chumley born 1780
> died 18 January 1853 in , Polk, MO
> married Betsy Elizabeth Ford; about 1803; ,,Virginia
> Children:(M) Andrew born 18 February 1803
> (M) Lewis born 1808
> (M) *John Henry born 1809
> (M) Charles Ballard born 1814
> (M) Brittain born 1815
> (F) Sarah born 1819
> (F) Malinda
> (F) Elizabeth (Eliza)
> (F) Emily
>
>I have his Father listed as: *John Chumley born
> died December 1780
> married Martha ; about 1771;
> Children I have listed are:(M) John born 4 December 1760
> (F) Anne
> (F) Francis
> (F) Martha
> (M) *Robert born 1780
> (M) William
>
>I know there are some mistakes. I have not had the chance to update my
>database with the information you all have supplied....I'm still wading
>through a lot of it at the moment. I figured I would get this out ASAP. Most
>of this information was handed down to me from my Aunt Madge (Madge Louise
>Chumbley/Bledsoe); coming from Family Bibles, death certificates, marriage
>certificates, gravestones, birth certificates, etc.
>
>I'm fairly sure of my lineage through Robert Chumley and Betsy Elizabeth Ford
>(Robert's wife). It is Robert's parental information that I am unsure of....I
>list
>John Chumley and Martha (maiden name unknown).
>
>Looking at Eddie Chumney's information, and the that of Cynthia and Cyndi, I
>have concluded the following:
>
>Robert Chumley may be the son of John Chumley and Elizabeth Dickens.
>
>That leaves the following without siblings or parents:
>
If this is the case which SEEMS to be, the father of Robert Chumley
who married Betsy Ford is John Chumley who married Elizabeth Dickens. His
father is John Chumley who married Martha (Lockett).
>
>Anne Chumley married John Miles
>Francis Chumley married Moses Lewelling
>Martha Chumley married William Rutledge
>William Chumley
>
>Any suggestions, opinions, corrections ???
>
>Thanks,
>
>Richard C. Chumbley, Jr.
>Newton, Kansas
>
Ann and Martha seem to be the daughters of John Chumley and Martha
(Lockett). The Francis Chumley who married Moses Lewelling is still a
mystery to many because it SEEMS that the Francis Chumley who is listed
on the Will of John Chumley MAY have married Judith and lived most of his
life in Pittsylvania Co, VA. There seems to be a female Francis and a
male Francis. My best guess is that the Francis who is listed in the Will
of John Chumley is male because it seems that the males were listed
first and then the two daughters, Ann and Martha.
Eddie Chumney
Nell, thanks so much for saying so! Mr. Noble does such a fine job on these
articles about "the olden days"! San Augustine is in East Texas, north of
Beaumont about 90 miles, I suppose,near the Sabine River which divides Texas
and Louisiana. It's east of Nacogdoches, TX. Nacogdoches, TX and
Natchitoches, LA. are equal distances from the River and there's a great
Indian history behind that! You had to cross the Sabine to get to Texas, so
even tho San Aug. is a small town today, it did a booming business when
Texas was being settled, and you paid customs there!
Living in LA, where we have had horse racing for years and all sorts of
gambling in various places over the years, it's so hard for me to imagine
anyone being charged with the playing of cards!!! And in a common gambling
house! I tho't that was one of the "rules of the West", you HAD to play
cards, according to all the old movies. At any rate, I winced when I read
of poor Alexander's fate!
Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Nell Thomason <billnell(a)flash.net>
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Fw: San Augustine, TX Infamous Love-Chumley Fight
>I read and copied all 4 sendings. Just great. Where is San Augustine, Tx?
>Did this Chumbley come from Wilson Co? Thank you, Nell
>
>
> To: sacsmith(a)usunwired.net
> Subject: Re: Love-Chumley Fight
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 5:10 PM
>
>
> > The remaining two paragraphs of the newspaper article state:
>
> > Love was devoted to the public, serving as alcalde of San
Augustine even =
> > before it was officially recognized by the Mexican
Government; he served =
> > as customs collector for two years at President Houston's
request; he =
> > served as primary judge and then as chief justice two
separate terms. =
> > He was an office in the Masons and a trustee of the Wesleyan
College. =
> > Perhaps John Salmon (Rip) Ford, who knew Love personally,
described him =
> > the best:
> > Judge John G. Love was on the bench in the San Augustine
district during =
> > the existence of the Provisional government. He was a
gentlemen of =
> > sterling worth. He never permitted selfish considerations to
stand in =
> > the way of a faithful performance of duty. He was one of
those patriots =
> > who live without ambition and die without reproach. He left
behind...a =
> > useful and well-spent life. A noble epitaph from a man who
knew and =
> > understood "sterling worth" and assigned it only to those who
had earned =
> > it.
>
> > There is an edited copy of the indictment and bond which
appeared in the =
> > Tribune:
> > INDICTMENT
> > In the Name and by the Authority of the State of Texas
> > In District Court for San Augustine County and State of
Texas, at the =
> > Spring Term in the year of our Lord, Eighteen Hundred and
Fifty-Nine:
> > The Grand Jurors of San Augustine County upon their oath
present that =
> > John E. Love, on the first day of April in 1859, did play at
a game with =
> > cards, and the Grand Jury upon their oath do further present
that John =
> > E. Love on the first day of April 1859, did play at a game
with cards in =
> > a common gambling house then there used and occupied for the
purpose of =
> > gambling contrary to the peace and dignity of the state.
> > Richard Waterhouse, Foreman of the Grand Jury
>
> > BOND
> > The State of Texas - County of San Augustine
> > Know all men by these present, that Alexander Chumley is held
and firmly =
> > bound unto the State of Texas in the sum of Two Hundred
dollars, dated =
> > this 22nd day of June AD 1859.
> > The condition of the above bond is issued a certain capias
commanding =
> > the sheriff of said county to take the body of Alexander
Chumley and him =
> > safely keep so that he personally appear before the Honorable
District =
> > Court of San Augustine, on the sixth Monday after the fourth
Monday in =
> > August AD 1859, to answer an indictment charging him with
playing cards =
> > in a common gambling house.
> > Alexander Chumley (Seal)
> > Richard Waterhouse (Seal)
> > John E. Love (Seal)
>
> > A summons was issued by the district clerk Robert W. Martin,
ordering =
> > Anthony A. Burrus to appear in court and testify on behalf of
the =
> > defendants, William Hollis and wife, and John G. Love.
Summons was =
> > issued in April of 1848
>
> > As I see it, the sixth Monday after the fourth Monday in
August takes =
> > you to October, this bond was set in June, so I'd love to
know the =
> > reason for such a lengthy delay! John Chumley was a farmer
and =
> > Alexander may well have been needed around the house and
fields until =
> > harvest!=20
>
> > Shirley Smith
>
>
>
Hi all,
I received the Web address for the following database a couple of days ago:
http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records
As I understand it, each month Sierra features a different historic
searchable database, and this month is the War of 1812. Unfortunately there
is only a few days left, but it is certainly well worth checking out.
Here are the Chumley listings that I found:
Edmund Chumley 7 Reg't (Saunder's) Virginia Militia
Edmund Chumney 7 Reg't (Saunder's) Virginia Militia
Edward Chumley 7 Reg't (Gray's) Virginia Militia
Edward Chumney 7 Reg't (Gray's) Virginia Militia
James Chumley 4 Reg't Virginia Militia
Joseph Chumley Coffee's Reg't, Cav., W. Tennessee Vols
Joseph Chumbley Coffee's Reg't, Cav., W. Tennessee Vols
Robert Chumley 8 Reg't (Wall's) Virginia Militia
Thomas Chumney Capt. Jeter's Co., Art'y, Virginia Militia
Edmund, Edward and Joseph appear to be duplicate info with different
spelling in the surname.
There were 506 of Fords and they only print the first one hundred. By
typing only the first letter of for a given name, I was able to retrieve a
list of names whose given name began with that letter...e.g. "T" there were
28 records, "S" there were 30 records. The "J"s you had to break up
because there were 138 of them. It's a little time consuming, but it is
worth getting the info.
Like all data bases, it is not complete and I have no idea as to the
percentage that is missing. I have the War of 1812 military record and
bounty land info on John Lingar from the Nat'l Arch but he is not in this
data base under Lingar or Lyngar. Neverless, this is still great stuff, so
check out your surnames before the month is over.
Good luck,
Sharon
Shirley: That is so great! Thanks for posting that. I read an account
of the fight in G. L. Crocket's "Two Centuries in East Texas" but this
one is much much better. As Shirley Martin said in her essay - ".....a
skeleton dancing" and we always think movies are" put on" but it sounds
just like a movie plot to me. Did you know that the bowie knife
Alexander Chumley was stabbed with is in the musuem at the San Jacinto
monument which is located on the ship channel in Houston, Harris County,
Texas. I have tried several times to see it so I could take a picture
of it. It was on display at one time in the musuem. But they say they
have so many articles like that they never can find them when you ask to
see them. What a shame! Jo Collier
Shirley,
Hi! It seems that the mail program sent them in MIME format again.
It isn't rootsweb except for the fact that they don't accept MIME.
My problem with rootsweb and my server had to do with the way they
read the number coding on an incoming e-mail. Rootsweb was able to
finally get in touch with them and they worked it out! :) Any way
when a message comes in with this message to you the listowner also
gets a copy. I just cut out all of the MIME stuff and forward it on
to the list. This message was wonderful! It was so interesting! I
love hearing "old West" stories and it is even better because it
involved family (no matter how many times removed-still family)!
Thank You!
Cyndi
> > I just completed a 3-part posting from the San Augusitne
Tribune, using =
> > my regular e-mail and it returned it saying I wasn't using
the right =
> > format. I haven't changed a thing in my regular typing. Is
this =
> > rootsweb or is it me ? I tho't I could just sit down and
type as long =
> > as my message wasn't too long! That's why I put it in three
parts!
>
> > I can't tell you how much I don't want to type it all over
again! I =
> > WILL, it's worth reading, I just wonder, in light of someone
else's =
> > recent woes, if it WAS me or if it was rootsweb. Someone
from the =
> > Chumbley mail list, please let me know!
> > Thanks! Shirley Smith sacsmith(a)usunwired.net=20
>
> To: sacsmith(a)usunwired.net
> Subject: Re: San Augustine, Tx. Infamous Love-Chumley Fight, Part 3
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 9:57 PM
>
> > Continuing...
> When the firing stopped, most pistols out ammunition, "...Chumley
(still =
> mobile) made for his horse about seventy yards distant."
>
> Horton Wood, Love's brother-in-law, ran to Love's body where he
grabbed =
> Love's large Bowie knife and raced after the retreating Chumley. =
> Chumley turned and fired, missing Wood but hitting a bystander
across =
> the street. Chumley fired a second time but by then "Wood was upon
him, =
> and knocking down the pistol with his left hand received the bullet
=
> through his thigh, and having caught Chumley by the collar, drove
the =
> eight inch blade of the knife down by the collar bone and to the
hilt, =
> then twice back of the shoulder blade also to the hilt." Both men
fell =
> to the ground and by the time Wood had regained his feet, Chumley
was =
> dead.
>
> Out of this gun battle, called the Love-Chumley fight, several
kinsmen =
> were wounded, some in multiple places, but only two were killed,
John E. =
> Love, Sr. and Alexander Chumley - the two who had started the
shootout =
> initially. John Chumley, who had died at the age of eighty-four,
two =
> years, earlier, didn't have to bear the burden of burying his son,
but =
> John G. Love, at age seventy-four, did have to stand on his son's =
> graveside and say goodbye.
>
> Shortly after the Civil War, on August 18, 1866, Love died at his
home =
> northwest of San Augustine. He had written a will five years
earlier, =
> dated September 30, 1861. He added a codicil fifteen months later
(Dec. =
> 21, 1862). It was a standard will providing the payment of all
debts =
> and disposition of his property. the property went to Margaret D.,
his =
> "beloved wife", his children, Minerva, Alexander, Emily Terrell,
Joseph =
> D. Love, Rebecca Ann Terrell, and to the grandchildren of his other
=
> three children, Caroline Irvine, John E. Love and Martha Davis. It
is =
> not known where John G. Love was buried."
> The Grand Jury indicted John E. Love for playing at cards in April,
=
> 1859.
>
> A $200.00 bond was posted by Alexander Chumley as ordered by the
Grand =
> Jury indictment for playing cards. Bond was dated June 1859.
>
> I thought this article captured the essence of "Old West" and it
tells =
> us exactly how, when and where Alexander Chumley died. He is
buried in =
> Old John Chumley Cemetery in San Augustine with his father, John =
> Chumley, and his mother, Delilah Russell Chumley. =20
>
> Shirley Smith
> To: sacsmith(a)usunwired.net
> Subject: Re: San Augustine TX Infamous Love-Chumley Fight, Part 2
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 9:57 PM
>
> Continuing
> Many years earlier, about 1848, Love's young son, John E., decided
to go =
> to California. apparently, he didn't have the ambitions or sense
of =
> responsibility of "Judge" Love and appeared to have trouble growing
up =
> in the shadow of his father's accomplishments. Also, he was
described =
> by those who knew him to be "hot-headed and impetuous." Thus, at
the age =
> of seventeen, he caught an ocean vessel and traveled to California
by =
> way thru the Gulf of Mexico. He arrived in time for the 1849 gold
rush =
> and spent three years on the Pacific coast.
>
> However, by 1859, John E. Love had matured, returned to San
Augustine, =
> married Susan V. Wood, the oldest daughter of Reuben Douglas and
Patsy =
> (Horton) Wood, and started a family. Still, he had a wild side and
had =
> accumulated a lengthy San Augustine court record of illegal gaming
and =
> playing at cards. One of his card playing friends was Alexander
(Alex) =
> Chumley.
>
> evidently this friendship turned sour in the spring of 1861, when
Love =
> and Chumley, a son of John and Delila Chumley, got into a violent =
> argument over a card game. Peace was restored, but the next day,
after =
> each man had recruited several relatives to represent his side, the
=
> fight resumed in front of the San Augustine courthouse (the
courthouse, =
> San Augustine's first, had been completed about five years
earlier.)
> Friends intervened and calm was again restored, but James W.
Bullock, =
> Alexander Horton's brother-in-law (representing Love's side) had
had too =
> much to drink and fired a shot that wounded Dod Chumley. {{This =
> introduces another Chumley, but Dod or Dodd was nickname for
someone and =
> I'll have to dig in my notes to find out which one, I think it was
=
> Thomas Monroe Chumley, but I'll check to be sure. SS}}
> As the crowd scrambled for cover, "...Love and (Alex) Chumley,
coming in =
> view of each other, commenced firing." Chumley's second shot
shattered =
> Love's right hand and "as he (Love) stooped to cock his pistol with
his =
> left hand, holding it between his knees, Chumley fired again,
shooting =
> him through the heart." A steady fusillade of gunfire had been in
=
> progress as Love went down, and Chumley had taken four shots to his
=
> body.
>
> From: CHUMBLEY-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
> To: sacsmith(a)usunwired.net
> Subject: Re: San Augustine, TX Infamous Love-Chumley Fight
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 9:57 PM
>
> This is from the July 4, 1996 edition of the San Augustine Tribune
by =
> Harry P. Noble, Jr. He writes many articles which tell of the rich
=
> history of San Augustine.
> This will probably take three parts.
> In December of 1847, John G. Love donated two shares he held in the
=
> Masonic facility, including his interest in lot 151, along with =
> improvements and payment of past due rent, to the Masonic chapter.
For =
> this contribution he was released from all future dues. A few
months =
> later, Love, Dr. Oscar Fitzallen, Stephen W. Blount, and Leonard H.
=
> Randal were appointed as a committee to collect Masonic quarterly
dues =
> that had fallen delinquent all the way back to January 1, 1846.
> Still representing William and Elizabeth Hollis in 1848, Love and
the =
> two Hollis' had a civil suit filed against them over a property
mortgage =
> held by Sebastian Francois and John P. Border. The case came to
trial =
> in October. The jury, headed by Henry H. Curl, found in favor of =
> Francois & Border and ruled the Hollis property must be sold to pay
the =
> mortgage obligation. Curl was married to the widow Hezekiah
Cartwright, =
> John Cartwright's first cousin. Anthony A. Burrus had been ordered
to =
> appear in court and testify for the defendants, Hollis' and Love.
> Love's son-in-law of four years, Robert Adam Terrell, gave Love
full =
> power of attorney in May of 1850 to act in all matters in San
Augustine. =
> It's likely the Terrells were moving to north central Texas, the
area =
> where a county would eventually be named after him.
> James B. Johnson, District Court Clerk, filed a suit against
Love in =
> 1853. During the proceedings he asked for a disclosure of certain
court =
> records. Love eventually lost the case and was required to pay
Johnston =
> $73.15, plus $20.16 in court costs and damages.
> Love bought a Sweet Addition lot (the area immediately east of
the =
> town area as laid out by the McFarlands) for $100.00 from Iredell
D. =
> Thomas in Nov. of 1855. Four months later, Love sold 161 acres to
=
> Samuel Wilson, and two years later, in 1857, he gave two lots
located in =
> the Sweet Addition to George F. Crocket. Twelve years later,
Crocket =
> would "give" the two lots to the Episcopal Diocese to be the site
for a =
> new Episcopal church. Completed in 1870, the church (Christ
Episcopal) =
> still serves the residents of San Augustine today.
> In 1860, James H. Sharp and Milly Nolin, co-executors of the
Edward =
> Teel estate, filed a petition in the district court against Love
and =
> James Perkins. Love and Perkins won the case in April and, as =
> defendants, had to pay nothing. However, Sharp and Nolin
petitioned the =
> court again, and on October 9, 1860, they lost the case a second
time. =
> It would be interesting to read the details of this case if they
were =
> still available because the two plaintiffs filed a petition for a
third =
> time - just three days later. Although the wording of the new
petition =
> had been lost, the third time was the charm - they won! Love and
=
> Perkins were ordered to pay $146.09.
>
Richard,
Hi! No I did not tape the conversation with Doris. I took my tape
recorder, but she did not want to talk that way this first time. I will be
going back and hopefully she will feel more confortable at a later date
talking with a tape recorder going. Had you ever heard about the
Violin (Fiddle) playing??
By the way were there any messages on the list I needed to know
about today? My server has banned rootsweb and although they said
they have fixed the problem it is still not working! If anyone needs me
please respond directly to me at:
galati4(a)galstar.com
Thanks,
Cyndi
CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
> To: Cyndi Galati,
>
> Did you make a recording of your conversation with Doris ? Unless she
> doesn't like speaking with a recorder "on" it's a great way of getting and
> keeping valued information, and there's no misinterpretations. Keep in touch.
>
> Richard C. Chumbley, Jr.
> Newton, Kansas
>
>
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To: Cyndi and all
Cyndi the picture of Ed Chumbley's daughter would be my Great-Aunt Olatha
Margaret Chumbley; she passed away a few years ago. I'm still retrieving that
information from my father.
Here's what I have Olatha Margaret Chumbley,
born 5 May 1896, birthplace Ashgrove, Greene County, Missouri
died 1995 ?, place Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California
1st marriage , Gilbertson (first name unknown)
born 1892, birthplace Lyon, Caldwell County,
Kentucky
2nd marriage Chester Caswell (not Cor_well)
6 May 1933, Los Angeles County, California
I believe Olatha is also buried in Pasadena, California. This is all the
information I have on my Aunt Olatha at the moment. Still working on it....
Richard C. Chumbley, Jr.
Newton, Kansas
To: Cyndi Galati,
Did you make a recording of your conversation with Doris ? Unless she
doesn't like speaking with a recorder "on" it's a great way of getting and
keeping valued information, and there's no misinterpretations. Keep in touch.
Richard C. Chumbley, Jr.
Newton, Kansas
Hi, All! I am having problems with my server! They banned rootsweb
and I am throwing a fit! I have to wait until they open this morning to
talk to someone and it is driving me NUTS! I have subscribed to the
lists I run through this address, but it is a pain. If there are any
messages that you all think I need to see and may have missed
please forward them to me privately.
Now below is another of the messages that I was sending
to you all!
Hi, All! I was wondering if any of you know if this is true?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
According to the son of one of the 1920 Federal census enumerators,
census enumerators were paid 10 cents for every white person they
listed, and 5 cents for every person of Indian descent. If this is true, it
would certainly skew the results. Even if we assume that the
enumerators were honest, and faithfully listed all known Indians, it is
easy to see which side they would come down on when people were not sure about their background, or when the enumerator did not ask
the question, but observed that the family he was enumerating looked "white," or when he didn't ask the question because he knew the family and had always assumed them to be white. I have not
investigated to determine if this pay scheme is accurate. Does
anyone know how census enumerators' pay was calculated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
Cyndi
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