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Barbara,
I know that I copied the Goodman tax pages a few years ago, naturally I
can't seem to locate them now. Have to go down the the LAFHC tomorrow to
replace the large package of napkins that we used during the seminar when
we ran out, and also to pick up some of my displays. It will take a couple
of trips. Will try to take the time to look up the info again.
As I recall, there was 1 or 2 entries for a Sarah Goodman. Didn't know
whether or not she is ours.
Sharon
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> From: Megerstch(a)aol.com
> To: denleeford(a)worldnet.att.net; CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman Probate Packet
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 3:43 PM
>
> The only Polk Co. tax info I have at the moment concerns J. H. (Harve)
Lyngar.
> On the DAR Library shelves are Polk Co. assessors books for 1861, 1865,
1869.
> The next time I go, I will get copies of pages for Goodman, Chumbley,
etc.
> (I'm not sure how soon that can be as I am in the midst of preparinga
major
> lecture presentation which must be ready by the 10th; a research day
will be
> my reward for getting it finished!)
>
> Barbara Meger
Dear Cousins,
I was wondering if we have enough information spread among us all to make
it worthwhile to collate it all and put it onto a CD-ROM. I would be glad to
enter the data and format it as necessary and to make the CD-ROMs myself
here on my machine. If we did this, we would have, I think, a pretty good
baseline on which to build.
The CD-ROMs themselves only cost about $2.00 or so, or say about $4.50
including printed labels, "jewel" boxes, padded envelopes, and shipping. The
best part of this idea may be that when we have more information, all we
have to do is put the CDs back through the machine and write the new data on
them. We ought to be able to make an update every 4 to 6 months or so as we
collect ever more information.
Please excuse me if I'm repeating something you already know, but
perhaps I should mention that each CD will store 650 MBytes. This is the
equivalent of 1000 copies of Moby Dick. So we can keep writing new updates
for quite a while before we fill up our CDs and need to make totally new
ones.
Questions arise:
1. Where would you like for the information to start?
2. Perhaps with John Chumbley of Amelia County, VA, who married Martha, and
who died in 1780?
3. Earlier?
4. All the way back to the good ship Charitie in 1624?
5. How far forward would you like for us to go?
6. Would you like for us to try for a completed tree down to present-day
newborns?
7. Are you running Windows? What version of Windows?
8. Are you using a Macintosh? What version of the Mac-OS?
9. What format should this data be kept in?
10. Family Tree Maker?
11. Simple pages of text?
12. New relational database? (I could write it.)
13. Is there a format recommended by the Mormon Church?
14. Should we use that one?
15. How often should we try to update?
16. Should we include photographs?
17. Scanned copies of family bibles?
18. Does the project seem worthwhile to you?
19. Do you think we have enough information to start?
20. Would a cost of $3.00 to, say, $4.50 be about right for the original CD?
21. Does a cost of, say, $1.50 for packing and reshipping updates sound
reasonable?
22. What is the extent of your own data that you would be willing to share?
23. What form is it in? Paper? Computer file?
24. Who are other Chumbley researchers outside our little group whom we
should contact?
If you don't mind, could you please give your answers to these questions
and send them back to me? I can then collate all our opinions and send out
a summary.
Also, if you don't mind, could you indicate any personal information you
might want to as to where you live and other contact information. I'm
uncomfortable with asking for full addresses and phone numbers because of
all the strange things going on here on the Internet, but if we knew at
least each other's state and maybe city, we could get a better idea of which
resources might be available to whom.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and to consider the proposal.
Love to all from your cousin,
Jim
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CHUMBLEY-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 98
Today's Topics:
#1 [CHUMBLEY-L] Family name [Boogeyloo(a)aol.com]
#2 Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman P ["Sharon Ford" <denleeford@worldnet]
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:06:46 EDT
From: Boogeyloo(a)aol.com
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Family name
>
>Am trying to find any information on the parents of Larkin C Chumley. I know
>that the father's name was John, and that John had two other sons named
>William and Coleman. I also know that they started out in Virginia
>(Pittsylvania Co.) and were originally from England. But need more than that
>to continue my research. I would appreciate any help...all I need is a lead.
>My mother had been researching, but is now very ill, and can no longer do it.
>I would love to help her add to our family tree. I thank you for any
>information you could give me, if any.
>Dennise Faulkner
>
Dennise,
At my Chumbley/Chumley/Chumney Website, I have listed some of those
people who are doing family research on these surnames. On of the
researchers is Don Chumley. Don's great-grandfather was Larkin C Chumley.
You may also find interesting the following Website:
http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/mercer/chumley.lc.txt
This web page states the following:
Larkin C Chumley was born in Pittsylvania County, Va, October 10,
1814 and was the son of John Chumly, native of Virginia, who had three
children, William, Colman and subject, who was the eldest. The family
came originally from England. Mr. Chumley, the subject of this sketch,
came to Kentucky when thirty-five years old, and settled in Mercer
county. He married Miss Elizabeth Montgomery, the daughter of William
Montgomery by whom he had nine children, all living, but one, as
follows: William T, Mary A, Nancy P, Charlotte, Robert, John, James
and Lucy. His wife died and he again married, this time to Martha
Adams, by whom he had five children, viz: Frank L, George C, Benjamin,
Edward and Cordelia. Mr. Chumley, his wife and nine of the children
belong to the Baptist Church.
How are you related to this line? If you can give me this info,
I will include you on my Web page as a Chumley researcher. Because
Don Chumley did the same thing, I am able to communicate to you that
Larkin is Don's great-grandfather.
Does this info help any?
Eddie Chumney
I have added a history by Bertha C. Chandler from a publication that
includes a wonderful sketch of the formation of several counties in the
Northern Neck of Virginia with some family information including
Stone/Harper/Paine/Carter and other families who may have settled 1650-1700 in
the Northern Neck of Virginia.
The site is located at:
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5273/rappa.htm
Let me know what you think.
Joe Payne
Knoxville, TN
Cyndi,
Is there a typo on the date for "our" John Chumley? There is no will for
him, but there is an "inventory" (SL 898,386 Tennessee, Claiborne Co.,
County Court Clerk Inventories of Estates 1855-1865 p. 186) and the
"Settlement of the Estate of John Chumbley" ( SL 898,386 p 75). I mailed
copies of these to you in Nov. or Dec. of last year.
Sharon
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> From: galati4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
> To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Fw: TN Wills
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 7:26 PM
>
> Hi, All. Another quick one! I just received the following
> information from a look-up I requested a while ago! I hope it helps!
> Cyndi
>
> "Tennessee Wills and Administrations 1779-1861"
> >
> > Chumbley, Joseph 1843 wb-f-186* (Hn) C!app, Lewis 1848 wb-10-51 (K)
> > Chumbly, William 1832 wb497 (WI) Clardy, Benjamin 1842 wb-3-0 (Sm)
> > Chumley, Bailard 1849 wb-~164 (WI) Clardy, James 1841 rb-k-300 (Mt)
> > Chumley, Daniel 1846 wb-#150 (Wi) Clardy, Lucinda B. 1852 wb-7-0
> (Sm)
> > Chumley, John 18507 ib-1-186 (CI) Clardy, Micheai 18477 wb-lB-46
> (,4,)
> > Chumley, Richard 1861 wb-#133 (WI)
> >
> >
> > > Hi! Can you check the surname
> > >Chumbley/Chumley/Chumly/Chumbly/Choomley + for me please?
> > > Thank You,
> > > Cyndi
> > > galati4(a)galstar.com
> > >
> >
>
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Hi again,
Got disconnected while trying to edit my message. To repeat, did Barbara
post some tax info on Lyngars or Goodmans? Can't remember! I'm "brain dead"
right now after the 3-day seminar. I know I have some tax info, but can't
get to it tonight, because I would waken my husband. I'll try to remember
tomorrow.
Sharon
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> From: galati4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
> To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman Probate Packet
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 3:06 PM
>
> Hi, All. I just have a minute since my husband's 90 year old (91
> Sunday) grandmother (yes, I do plan on picking her brain for when I
> start doing his side of the family and I do have a tape recorder
> ready to go:)) will be here soon and I am still working on "building"
> her a downstairs bedroom! Any way I just got a letter from the
> Greene County Probate and they found no record of Sampson Goodman.
> They did note to check Dade and Polk Counties. I have checked Polk,
> but will check Dade when the time permits! One thing I did notice is
> that he is listed on the Census as renting. Is it possible that he
> didn't have anything left to Probate? My family tends to give
> everything away before they die, unless it is sudden (with his age
> and having survived both wives that is doubtful). They have always
> said this way the government doesn't get anything! I have also had
> no luck with obits listed for him. It seems that there aren't any
> surviving Walnut Grove or Ash Grove papers from that time and
> Springfield didn't have it listed in the index. Any other ideas for
> information for him? I wasn't as interested in his will because we
> have his children pretty well documented, but it seems that an obit
> would be the biggest help for finding a clue to who his parents were.
> A death record would be even better, but it doesn't appear that they
> registered his death in Polk or Greene County. I just had a thought!
> WOW!! That light bulb does work sometimes! Since his wives had
> died and he was renting what is the chance that he went to live with
> one of his children until he died? I would think it would be a
> pretty good chance! So now not only do I need to check Dade, but
> also Lawrence County for obits and death records! Where else where
> the kids at the time?
> Cyndi
>
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Am trying to find any information on the parents of Larkin C Chumley. I know
that the father's name was John, and that John had two other sons named
William and Coleman. I also know that they started out in Virginia
(Pittsylvania Co.) and were originally from England. But need more than that
to continue my research. I would appreciate any help...all I need is a lead.
My mother had been researching, but is now very ill, and can no longer do it.
I would love to help her add to our family tree. I thank you for any
information you could give me, if any.
Dennise Faulkner
Cyndi,
You must remember many, many people did not make out wills; they just
never got around to it, they had no property, and they simply did not want
to think about death. To many people, even today, making out a will just
makes them feel that they are just that much closer to death and are just
not ready to deal with it. Their feelings were, you make out a will, you
die. You don't make out a will, you postpone the inevitable.
If Sampson was renting, the chances of there being any probate records
are very slim. It sounds like there was no property. What we want to know
is, "why?" Forget probate for now and go for tax records and deeds. Didn't
Barbara post some tax info? Was that on LyngarWe still want to know what
property he owned and when, where & to whom he sold it. He could have sold
it to one of his kids, and like you say, maybe ended up living with one of
his children. But, I doubt that he was living with family if the records
shows he was "renting."
----------
> From: galati4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
> To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman Probate Packet
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 3:06 PM
>
> Hi, All. I just have a minute since my husband's 90 year old (91
> Sunday) grandmother (yes, I do plan on picking her brain for when I
> start doing his side of the family and I do have a tape recorder
> ready to go:)) will be here soon and I am still working on "building"
> her a downstairs bedroom! Any way I just got a letter from the
> Greene County Probate and they found no record of Sampson Goodman.
> They did note to check Dade and Polk Counties. I have checked Polk,
> but will check Dade when the time permits! One thing I did notice is
> that he is listed on the Census as renting. Is it possible that he
> didn't have anything left to Probate? My family tends to give
> everything away before they die, unless it is sudden (with his age
> and having survived both wives that is doubtful). They have always
> said this way the government doesn't get anything! I have also had
> no luck with obits listed for him. It seems that there aren't any
> surviving Walnut Grove or Ash Grove papers from that time and
> Springfield didn't have it listed in the index. Any other ideas for
> information for him? I wasn't as interested in his will because we
> have his children pretty well documented, but it seems that an obit
> would be the biggest help for finding a clue to who his parents were.
> A death record would be even better, but it doesn't appear that they
> registered his death in Polk or Greene County. I just had a thought!
> WOW!! That light bulb does work sometimes! Since his wives had
> died and he was renting what is the chance that he went to live with
> one of his children until he died? I would think it would be a
> pretty good chance! So now not only do I need to check Dade, but
> also Lawrence County for obits and death records! Where else where
> the kids at the time?
> Cyndi
>
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The only Polk Co. tax info I have at the moment concerns J. H. (Harve) Lyngar.
On the DAR Library shelves are Polk Co. assessors books for 1861, 1865, 1869.
The next time I go, I will get copies of pages for Goodman, Chumbley, etc.
(I'm not sure how soon that can be as I am in the midst of preparinga major
lecture presentation which must be ready by the 10th; a research day will be
my reward for getting it finished!)
Barbara Meger
Sharon and All,
Hi! I am sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant was that the Census
showed him renting in 1880, Rebecca Delk Goodman died in (great now I
can't find the date, but I think it was about a year before
Sampson's), so maybe after she died Sampson moved in with one of the
kids. If he was only renting at the time there wasn't as much to
keep him there. If he died at one of the kids houses in another
county maybe there would be an obit and death record for him there.
Look at Samuel Chumbley if I hadn't hooked up with you I wouldn't
have had any reason to look for a death in CA. His married life was
spent and documented in MO, his wife and he were both buried there.
I probably would have figured that he was just some how missed for
whatever reason. Any way I am not supposed to be doing this. I just
had to send a "quick" answer.
Bye,
Cyndi
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> From: Sharon Ford <denleeford(a)worldnet.att.net>
> To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman Probate Packet
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 4:03 PM
>
> Cyndi,
> You must remember many, many people did not make out wills; they
just
> never got around to it, they had no property, and they simply did
not want
> to think about death. To many people, even today, making out a will
just
> makes them feel that they are just that much closer to death and
are just
> not ready to deal with it. Their feelings were, you make out a
will, you
> die. You don't make out a will, you postpone the inevitable.
> If Sampson was renting, the chances of there being any probate
records
> are very slim. It sounds like there was no property. What we want
to know
> is, "why?" Forget probate for now and go for tax records and deeds.
Didn't
> Barbara post some tax info? Was that on LyngarWe still want to know
what
> property he owned and when, where & to whom he sold it. He could
have sold
> it to one of his kids, and like you say, maybe ended up living with
one of
> his children. But, I doubt that he was living with family if the
records
> shows he was "renting."
>
> ----------
> > From: galati4 <galati4(a)galstar.com>
> > To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Sampson Goodman Probate Packet
> > Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 3:06 PM
> >
> > Hi, All. I just have a minute since my husband's 90 year old (91
> > Sunday) grandmother (yes, I do plan on picking her brain for when
I
> > start doing his side of the family and I do have a tape recorder
> > ready to go:)) will be here soon and I am still working on
"building"
> > her a downstairs bedroom! Any way I just got a letter from the
> > Greene County Probate and they found no record of Sampson
Goodman.
> > They did note to check Dade and Polk Counties. I have checked
Polk,
> > but will check Dade when the time permits! One thing I did
notice is
> > that he is listed on the Census as renting. Is it possible that
he
> > didn't have anything left to Probate? My family tends to give
> > everything away before they die, unless it is sudden (with his
age
> > and having survived both wives that is doubtful). They have
always
> > said this way the government doesn't get anything! I have also
had
> > no luck with obits listed for him. It seems that there aren't
any
> > surviving Walnut Grove or Ash Grove papers from that time and
> > Springfield didn't have it listed in the index. Any other ideas
for
> > information for him? I wasn't as interested in his will because
we
> > have his children pretty well documented, but it seems that an
obit
> > would be the biggest help for finding a clue to who his parents
were.
> > A death record would be even better, but it doesn't appear that
they
> > registered his death in Polk or Greene County. I just had a
thought!
> > WOW!! That light bulb does work sometimes! Since his wives had
> > died and he was renting what is the chance that he went to live
with
> > one of his children until he died? I would think it would be a
> > pretty good chance! So now not only do I need to check Dade, but
> > also Lawrence County for obits and death records! Where else
where
> > the kids at the time?
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
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Hi, All. Another quick one! I just received the following
information from a look-up I requested a while ago! I hope it helps!
Cyndi
"Tennessee Wills and Administrations 1779-1861"
>
> Chumbley, Joseph 1843 wb-f-186* (Hn) C!app, Lewis 1848 wb-10-51 (K)
> Chumbly, William 1832 wb497 (WI) Clardy, Benjamin 1842 wb-3-0 (Sm)
> Chumley, Bailard 1849 wb-~164 (WI) Clardy, James 1841 rb-k-300 (Mt)
> Chumley, Daniel 1846 wb-#150 (Wi) Clardy, Lucinda B. 1852 wb-7-0
(Sm)
> Chumley, John 18507 ib-1-186 (CI) Clardy, Micheai 18477 wb-lB-46
(,4,)
> Chumley, Richard 1861 wb-#133 (WI)
>
>
> > Hi! Can you check the surname
> >Chumbley/Chumley/Chumly/Chumbly/Choomley + for me please?
> > Thank You,
> > Cyndi
> > galati4(a)galstar.com
> >
>
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James Farmer wrote:
Eddie,
Glad to get your reply.The research on our family was done by
relatives living in California and Oklahoma.
It came to me by way of a cousin that lives nearby.So I'll write it
the way it's given here.
Chumley Family History
Our family in this country started this way.Three brothers,the
youngest in their family,who would not inherit any of the family's
Iron Works in England came to this country in the late 1700's (1785
1790).They initialla settled in Giles County,Virginia but
later separated.George Chumley settled in Pennsylvania.Robert
Chumley,could have been William Robert Chumley,went to Tennessee and
settled on Gap Creek at the foot of the south side of the Cumberland
Mountains.Baxter Chumley,called Buck,
the other brother and our ancestor,settled in the Greenville District
of South Carolina.
A few years after they moved to the United States the brother left in
England died,so the three pooled their money and bought
passage for the oldest brother ,George,to return to England to
liquidate the estate then share equally with his younger brothers.
Robert and Buck met him in Charleston,South Carolina,but he refused to
recognize them.
Baxter Chumley:We do not know the port that he sailed from,but it is
believed he entered this country at Charleston,South Carolina.We do
not know his date of birth or death.He married Charlotte Gilbreath and
they had 5 children.We believe Baxter
and Charlotte died in South Carolina.
Children:
1.George K. Chumley born:1798 died:4 Oct 1870 Spartanbourg, S.C.
2.John Chumley
3.Ollie Chumley(daughter) married a Dr.Trail
4.Mariah Chumley married Bill Wofford
5.William Young Chumley born:23 Aug 1815 Spartanbourg,S.C.source Est
from census died 25 Apr 1898 Dekalb County,Alabama
(note):some of the papers I recieved indicate there could have been as
many as 10 children.According to the census records
beginning in 1810 through 1840.A search of Spartanburg S.C. Cemetary
Survey revealed George Chumley died on Oct 4 1870
at the age of 72.Two of his daughters are buried in the same
cemetary:"Daughter of George K. & S.E. Chumley, born March 24
1865,died January 24 1886";"Bertha,Daughter of George K. & S.E.
Chumley died, October 17 1882."
There was no record of the burial place for Baxter or Charlotte.
The three youngest sons ,William Young, John W.,and R.E. moved to
Alabama aroung 1840. All three are buried at Providence
Hill Missionary Baptist Church Cemetary in Dekalb County,Alabama.
As you can tell Eddie this is somewhat confusing.Sorry I didn't get
back with you sooner,but I,m in the Alabama National Guard
and I had drill this weekend.In answer to your question,I live in
Attalla,Alabama about 65 miles North-North-East of Birmingham,
Alabama.This is about 10 miles from Dekalb County.I tried to access
your web site but Geocity's home page said your web site
didn't exist.This is not the first time this has happened on web sites
I know existed.Go figure.
Get back with me if you find out anything or if I can be of any help.
Originally I was trying to find out something about the family in
England,but I really didn't know where to start.Without knowing where
they came from in England or the name of the family ironworks.
I forgot to tell you how I was related to the Chumley family.Baxter >Chumley;gggg grandfather,William Young Chumley;ggg
grandfather,Doctor Benjamen Franklin Chumley;gg grandfather,Sidney >Rufus Chumley;g grandfather,Madison B.
Chumley;grandfather,Dorothy A. Chumley;mom.
I was wondering if the various spellings of the Chumley name could stem >from the fact that some of the ancestors
could not read or write?One of the papers I have is a copy of a census >record f Alabama and it stated that William Young
couldn't.That's all for now,talk to you later.
Again let me know if you find out anything.Take care.
James Farmer
507 8th. Ave.S.W.
Attalla,Alabama 35954
Hi, All. I just have a minute since my husband's 90 year old (91
Sunday) grandmother (yes, I do plan on picking her brain for when I
start doing his side of the family and I do have a tape recorder
ready to go:)) will be here soon and I am still working on "building"
her a downstairs bedroom! Any way I just got a letter from the
Greene County Probate and they found no record of Sampson Goodman.
They did note to check Dade and Polk Counties. I have checked Polk,
but will check Dade when the time permits! One thing I did notice is
that he is listed on the Census as renting. Is it possible that he
didn't have anything left to Probate? My family tends to give
everything away before they die, unless it is sudden (with his age
and having survived both wives that is doubtful). They have always
said this way the government doesn't get anything! I have also had
no luck with obits listed for him. It seems that there aren't any
surviving Walnut Grove or Ash Grove papers from that time and
Springfield didn't have it listed in the index. Any other ideas for
information for him? I wasn't as interested in his will because we
have his children pretty well documented, but it seems that an obit
would be the biggest help for finding a clue to who his parents were.
A death record would be even better, but it doesn't appear that they
registered his death in Polk or Greene County. I just had a thought!
WOW!! That light bulb does work sometimes! Since his wives had
died and he was renting what is the chance that he went to live with
one of his children until he died? I would think it would be a
pretty good chance! So now not only do I need to check Dade, but
also Lawrence County for obits and death records! Where else where
the kids at the time?
Cyndi
Hi Joe,
Glad you have signed on. I am descended from Robert Chumley's
daughter Elizabeth (Eliza as our family knew her) through James Harvey
Lyngar,Andrew Chumley Lyngar,Walter Noble Lyngar,Helen Merle Lyngar and
me: Robert Edward Kennedy.
Elizabeth Chumley married James Harvey Lyngar: Children
John Franklin Lyngar m.Anna Willard, Missouri A.V. Long
Andrew Chumley Lyngar b. Oct 18,1845 d.Oct 23,1906 m.Adeline Camila
Spivey.
Wiley Lyngar b. Nov.18,1847 d. Mar.10,1850
Emily E. Lyngar b.Aug.2,1849 d.Dec.27,1852
Harriet Orlena Lyngar b.Jan. 1,1853 d.Mar.19,1922
Fannie Josephine Lyngar b.Mar.25,1856 d.Sept.25,1857
William V. Lyngar b. Nov.13,1860 d.Sept.11,1870
Sarah Chumley married John Lingar
John Lingar was the older brother of James Harvey Lyngar. John
stayed in Tenn. and James Harvey Lyngar came to Greene Co., Mo.
Elizabeth's sister, Malinda Slatten and their father,Robert Chumley,all
came to Mo.,probably together. James Harvey also had a sister,Sarah
Lyngar,who married Sampson Goodman who also moved to the same area in Mo.
and lived but a few miles away.
After Elizabeth died in 1870 Malinda,who was widowed moved in as
housekeeper for James Harvey Lyngar. This shown on the 1870 or 1880
census.
Robert Chumley,Elizabeth Chumley Lyngar and Malinda Chumley
Slatten are all buried in the King Family Cemetery in Polk Co.,Mo. about
a mile and a half from the Lyngar farm.
This just bare bones info. my cousins and I have more details if
they are of interest. Glad to make contact with you.
Bob Kennedy
Chaimanar(a)juno.com
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Bob,
I did have the Lynger information but must have entered it after I had created
the Chumbley page. I have quite an extensive Goodman database but found no
Sampson or Samuel other that the one who married Sarah Linger.
Glad we could connect with some mutual information. I thought my cousins in
Fla would be signed on but evidently they aren't. I will have to email them
with the new contacts.
Joe Payne
Knoxville, TN
Dear Ones,
I am truly mortified with embarrassment for having gotten caught
writing in the unseemly and non-gentlemanly way in which I referred to my
spelling checker as a "Yankee." Although none of the dear people on our
Chumbley/Chumley/Chumbly/Chumney group here who are from north of the
Mason-Dixon line would ever recognize that word as an insult, I must confess
freely and openly to having meant it "a little less than kind," as Uncle
Bill once wrote in _Hamlet_. Sigh.
The truth of the matter should be confessed, and anyone whose Northern
heritage was insulted by me, even though I had every expectation of not
getting caught, has every right to put me into their "kill file." In the
message posted earlier and quoted below, I had thought I was sending my
message directly to Joe, but it didn't work. I forgot to check what was
entered into the "To" slot.
A myth perpetuated for 150 years in my branch of the family speaks of a
division among our forebears: Those who supported the Southern Confederacy
are said to have adopted the "B" in our name (Chumbley), whereas those who
supported the Union dropped the "B." When I was nine or ten, this story made
a great impression on me. One of the truly sad things about research is that
it has an infuriating way of burying myths and revealing truths. I have
learned, alas, that there are actually relatives who spell their name with
the mystical "B" but who actually live in Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, and even
New York!
In my own defense, I must say that I actually do know personally
several Yankees and that I am proud to number them among my friends.
Furthermore, I have even been joyfully married for 31 years to a wonderful
woman whose only fault is that she is a Yankee, and that occurrence was not,
strictly speaking, her own fault, but rather that of her mother.
Apologies to all from your [even more distant, now] cousin,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
Hi, Joe,
It's very nice to meet you. I am descended from Robert Chumbley's son
Brittain, through Alexander, James Marion, George Alexander, Lynn Farris (my
father), and me: James Farris Chumbley (Jim). So you and I are kinfolks!
[Hmmm- My stupid Yankee spell checker just rejected the perfectly good
Confederate word "kinfolks." You'd think it would have better manners!]
Thanks for the information. Do keep in touch.
Your cousin,
Jim
Hi, Joe,
It's very nice to meet you. I am descended from Robert Chumbley's son
Brittain, through Alexander, James Marion, George Alexander, Lynn Farris (my
father), and me: James Farris Chumbley (Jim). So you and I are kinfolks!
[Hmmm- My stupid Yankee spell checker just rejected the perfectly good
Confederate word "kinfolks." You'd think it would have better manners!]
Thanks for the information. Do keep in touch.
Your cousin,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: JPayne5744(a)aol.com [mailto:JPayne5744@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 1998 11:51 AM
To: CHUMBLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHUMBLEY-L] Robert Chumbley b. 1786 in Va
Hi everyone, Joe Payne, new to the list but hopeful in finding new
relatives.
I am from Knoxville, TN and have a descendency to the Chumley family through
the above ancestor.
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5273/chumley.htm
(1) Robert1 CHUMBLEY was born in 1786 at Va, and married (2) Betsy FORD.
Robert died in Jan 1853 at Polk Co., Mo.
Children:
3 + Andrew2 CHUMBLEY b. 1804
4 + Lewis Franklin CHUMBLEY b. 1808 d.a 1880
5 + Charles Ballard CHUMLEY b. 1814 d. Feb 11 1847
6 + John Henry CHUMBLEY b. 1809 d. 1850
7 + Brittian CHUMBLEY b. 1815 d.b 1860
8 + Malinda CHUMBLEY b. 1816 d. May 1888
9 + Sarah CHUMBLEY b. 1819
10 + Elizabeth CHUMBLEY b. 1824 d. Sep 1870
Joe Payne
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Hi all, I sure don't know what happened to the address I posted
wednesday. I always try any that I put on to make sure that they work. I
tried this one also. However when I tried it today it didn't work.
?????? If you want to access the information I was trying to get
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for the problem. Andy
To correct my e-mail to Barbara re parents of Daniel, John, David and
Susannah Chumley. Sorry -Jo Collier
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Date:
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From:
Jo Collier <jomar(a)wcc.net>
To:
"Barbara F. Bonham" <bbonham(a)awod.com>
Barbara - please excuse me - I am surrounded by notes I have been
collecting for 20 years. When I mentioned the father of Daniel, John,
David and Susannah Chumley I said I thought it might have been William.
No! No! - that wasn't what I meant. Their parents were Richard and
Grace (Milam) Chumley. Richard's father might have been William and
William's father might have been the earlier Frances - so much for
thoughts!
Anyway, would love to hear from you regarding your Frances.
Jo Collier