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I have looked and found no Pennsylvania Chronisters who served in the Revolution or in the War of 1812. There are no bounty land application files, no pension files, and not even any service records for any Pennsylvania Chronisters in the Federal Government records at NARA. Also, the "Pennsylvania Archives" book series, which contains early records of the State of Pennsylvania, has muster rolls for Pennsylvania soldiers, both in the Revolution and 1812. I didn't find any Chronisters listed there, either.
There are only a few Chronisters who served in 1812, and they were in other states. There is record of only two Chronisters serving in the Revolution, both of them in NC. Neither one died in the Revolution.
If Levi Chronister had a grandfather and a brother to that grandfather serving in those wars, it wasn't on the Chronister side of his family.
Also, the wife of Jonas Chronister is listed in this book, and also on her tombstone, as "Margaret". But on a notice for the estate settlement of her grandfather, Adam Sowers, in 1837, she is listed as "Rebecca married to Jonas Chronister". I would be interested if anyone has checked any other original sources to see if we are talking about two wives for Jonas, or if it is one woman named either "Rebecca Margaret" or "Margaret Rebecca".
Does the author of: "History of York County" offer any specific sources or details about the claims that are made? I have been told that this book is completely unsourced.
Candy,
Your reference to the Gettysburg Compiler and Republican Compiler newspapers
made me do a quick check for Magdalena spelled different ways. There was
one and only one listing for a mention of a Magdalena Chronister, but it was
from an edition of the Gettysburg Times published on 10 Dec 1934.
Since you are correct that Magdalena is a rather unusual Chronister first
name, I checked the reference anyway, and made an exciting discovery... It
seems that the Gettysburg Times published a column in their paper called
"Out of the Past" which reprinted local news and announcements from exactly
100 years earlier.
In the "Out of the Past" column for December 10, 1934, appeared the
following:
"On the 20th ult., by the Rev. D. Gottwald, George Mumma, of Hamilton
township, to Miss Magdalena Chronister, of Latimore township."
George Mummert's wife, Magdalena, is, indeed, Magdalena Chronister, probably
the daughter of John and Christina Chronister, who lived in Latimore
township in 1834. John Chronister was raised in the farmhouse of his
grandfather, immigrant Johannes Chronister, which is a historic residence
still standing and occupied, adjacent to the Lower Bermudian Cemetery.
Now look what you've done, I'm probably going to be up all night looking at
the "Out of the Past" column on ALL of the available editions of the
Gettysburg Times!
Peg
Candy,
I tried to take that George Mummert, age 40 in 1850, through the later
census years. I found them with consistent ages in 1860 and 1870, but 1880
has them living alone with ages that are way off the mark. In 1880, George
is 54 and Magdalene is 59. George should have been about 70, Magdalena
about 64. There were a lot of George Mummerts, but unless there was another
one who married someone named Magdalene, this 1880 is probably them, with
the ages a gross error on the part of the census taker. It might have even
been a guess, and the family wasn't actually visited.
As for "Magdalena Chronister" marrying a George Mummert--I can't document it
one way or the other. She could have been a widow, but I don't see any
children from a first marriage living with them in 1850. There was a
Magdalena Chronister who would have been the right age to be this one, and
her family lived in Reading Township in 1830. She was a child of John
Chronister. John made his will on May 23, 1851. In it, he mentions his
wife, "Christina", and children, "Polly, Jacob, Elizabeth, David, Magdalena,
John, and Rachel". These children would have all been grown at the time
that John made his will, but unfortunately, the will does not give the
married names of the daughters. I can't say if this Magdalena married a
Mummert or not.
There are some Mummert researchers on the York and Adams County lists. I
would try posting your query there.
Peggy Reeves
having fun reading census information, trying to follow
ancestors ...
came across this little gem:
1850 Reading, Adams, PA
George Mummert 40 (looks like Mumerts, but I know who George is)
Lenah 34
Margaret 14
?Mniah? 12 (possibly Maria, Unice ?)
Lavina 10 (alternate spelling Lovina)
Caroline 7
Amos 2
they're next door to my 4g-grandmother Mary (Mummert)(Bucher)Baker and
her second husband John Baker
George is Mary's brother, as delineated in their father's
(Samuel M. Mummert) will; Mary is cited as "Polly" in the will
also, Samuel's will specifically mentions Margaret, daughter
of Samuel's son George, and mentions Lovina who will at
that time (1846) go to live with Samuel's soon-to-be-widowed
wife Catherine
according to unsourced information:
George Mummert b. 25 Sep 1810 d. 15 Nov 1880
(son of Samuel M. Mummert and Catherine Heltz)
m. on 20 Nov 1834
Magdalena Chronister b. 11 Jan 1816 d. 5 Feb 1887 in Reading
the only trouble ? I can't find any record of a
Magdalena Chronister ... and seems no one on the list has
discussed her
could she have been the widow of a Chronister? or one of the
"unnamed daughters" that Peggy was talking about ?
I did notice that another Chronister descendant was said to be
married to _______ Hummert; would bet that is actually MUMMERT
cheers, Candy
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Surnames: Chronister Napier
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William Chronister (no middle initial and signing with his mark) created a deed of conveyance in Pope Co., AR to A.D. Chronister for his interest in lands formerly owned by Azariah Chronister. This instrument was executed on 4 Mar 1872. Margaret E. Chronister, wife of William, released her dower rights to the property on 20 May 1872 in Conway Co., AR. This deed was found in Pope Co., AR Deed Bk L:58 and 59. This is positive evidence that William M. Chronister was the son of Azariah Chronister.
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William Chronister (no middle initial and signing with his mark) created a deed of conveyance in Pope Co., AR to A.D. Chronister for his interest in lands formerly owned by Azariah Chronister. This instrument was executed on 4 Mar 1872. Margaret E. Chronister, wife of William, released her dower rights to the property on 20 May 1872 in Conway Co., AR. This deed was found in Pope Co., AR Deed Bk L:58 and 59. This is positive evidence that William M. Chronister was the son of Azariah Chronister.
Thanks. Peggy Carey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debra Blackard" <debrablackard(a)centurytel.net>
To: <CHRONISTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: [CHRONISTER] Family Group: William Nathan Chronister and Lydia Jane
Morris
>
> William Nathan CHRONISTER
> bd. 17 Mar 1857, MO[1]
> rel. Attended Mt. Home FWB Church[2]
> dd. 1 Jun 1942[3],[4]
> brd. Minnow Creek Cem, Perry Twp., Johnson, AR
> mar. 2 Jul 1874 [8]
> Lydia Jane MORRIS
> bd. 20 Mar 18552
> dd. 19 Sep 19252
> brd. Minnow Creek Cem., Perry Twp., Johnson Co., AR
>
> | James Robert CHRONISTER
> | bd. May 1875, AR
> | Thomas Henry CHRONISTER
> | bd. Sep 1877, AR
> | Aaron Columbus CHRONISTER
> | bd. abt 1883, MO
> | dd. 4 Feb 1944
> | Rebecca Surilda CHRONISTER
> | bd. 3 Aug 1885, AR[5]
> | dd. 3 Mar 1977, Perryville, Perry Co., AR[6]
> | brd. Houston, Perry Co., AR[6]
> | William B. CHRONISTER
> | bd. 15 Feb 1890
> | dd. 29 Sep 1890
> | brd. Minnow Creek Cem, Perry Twp., Johnson, AR
> | William Ira CHRONISTER
> | bd. 7 Dec 1892, Lamar, Johnson Co., AR[7]
> | occ. Public Worker[7]
> | dd. 7 Mar 1959, Paris, Logan Co., AR[7]
> | brd. Barling Cem., AR[7]
>
> 1. Pension File, James A. Chronister, #WC 127-829
> National Archives, Washington, DC
> 2. Group Photo circa 1906-10, Mt. Home FWB Church, on occasion of a debate
> between Church of Christ (Campbellite) and Free Will Baptist preachers.
> 3. Gravemarker, Minnow Creek Cemetery, S19-T10N-R22W, Johnson Co., AR.
> 4. Obituary, The Herald Democrat, Clarksville, AR, 4 Jun 1942.
> 5. 1900 Census Spadra Twp., Johnson Co., AR,
> 6. Jack Moore, desc. Of Rebecca S. Chronister Underwood.
> 7. Photocopy of published records of Smith Mortuary, Charleston, Arkansas,
> 1944 - 1993
> 8. Marriage Bk N:333, County Clerk, Johnson County, Clarksville, AR.
> 9. 1880 Census Perry Twp., Johnson Co, AR.
> 10. Jayne Greb McGuire, email 1 Sep 1998.
>
>
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Mary Lou, this still leaves you searching for the father of William J. Chronister but maybe you will find him after all.
Yes, it is unfortunate to know that all the "sound and fury" could have been avoided if I had gone on with my research in the first place. Or anyone else for that matter. It is nice when hunches and family tradition can be proven with documentation.
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Debra, I am glad you looked further, now we know. It is what I believed all along and what Randy and Cathy KNEW all along, it is too bad they received such blows to their research. May Lou Reed
I am interested in information of the brothers of Rebecca S. Chronister,
daughter of William Nathan Chronister and Lydia Jane Morris. Rebecca married
Jack D. Underwood (born Jesse Danner). Thanks. Peggy Carey
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Debra and I have continued to work on this and other Chronister mysteries, and I concur with her completely that the Pope County land records make a better case for William M. Chronister being the son of Azariah.
We know that William Jackson Chronister was in Pope County before his homestead claim, because he is in the tax records and on the census, but he apparently wasn't a landowner, so we don't know the coordinates of the land that he was living on, nor do we know who owned it. If anyone wants to help solve that problem, I think that's where we're going next.
Debra, thanks for taking time to go to the courthouse to follow the land records! The new information has helped to clarify relationships and gives us new paths to follow to help tackle some of the other Chronister lines and associated families. It is always a pleasure working with you, even when you prove our strongest and best theories to be incorrect! :o)