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Searching for descendants of Robert and Ruth Christy
They lived in Philadelphia. Robert passed away in 1828. Its believed Ruth moved to South Jersey. Possible lived with her parents. Other surnames: Wheaton, McPherson, Berrryman,Bateman. Family ties to Edwin (Edmund) P. Christy, Christy Minstrels.
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Surnames: christie christy mudge smith
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Looking for information regarding the children & parents of Thomas Christie & Sarah Smith. Both born in Ireland, lived in Michigan and had the children (partial list):
Edward
Thomas
Robert m. Ruth Mudge
Dickson m. Ester
Hester m. Walker Smith
Dear listers,
I am looking for the "needle in a haystack". Does anyone out there in
Christy land know about a Joseph E. Christy born 5 Mar 1805 in PA.
Married 2 Mar 1826, don't know where
Moved from PA to Fisher, Champaign County, Illinois in 1865
Died 26 Nov 1866 in Beekman Cemetery, Fisher, Champaign County, Illinois.
I'm looking for details on his wife and children and if possible, I'd like
to know who his father and mother were.
Please help if you can.
Thanks,
Patrick
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Forgive me this is my third posted reply to your query, but I noticed that I typed my email address incorrectly. The correct address is HowellMA55(a)msn.com. Hope to hear from you soon.
There seem to have been several Robert Christie's in the last half of the
1700's and the first half of the 1800's:
Robert Christie and Elizabeth
Lambert had a child John christened
1 Sep 1735 North Farnham Parish,
Richmond, Virginia
There is the Robert Christie in DAR records:
CHRISTY, Robert
Birth: ST 1750
Service: SC
Rank: 1Lt
Death: GA 3 Apr 1801
Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No
Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No
Spouse: (1) Ann Elizabeth Marshall
Robert Christie, Jr., (1787-1822), married Hannah Rahn who was daughter of
Jonathan Rahn, (Revolutionary Soldier (1762-1840), Effingham County,
Georgia, served as corporal, 1nd Co., Reg. of Ga.), and his wife Christiana
Buntz (1763-1824).
Another Robert Christie was Sheriff in Baltimore MD in 1776. He was a
loyalist, and was run out of town after refusing to read the declaration of
Independence from the courthouse steps because it might cause a public
disturbance. This Robert Christie was also a successful merchant. After
selling his holdings for some 20,000 pounds, he returned to Glasgow,
Scotland.
Brunswick County, VA, Will Book 2. By: Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr
#155. "Will of Robert (x) CHRISTIE 15 Jan 1749 27 March 1750
Of St Andrews Parish. 'sick and weak in body'
To my 2 sons William & Jesse CHRISTIE - my 200 acres where I now live &
William to have the plantation where I now live.
To my son William - my feather bed & furniture that I purchased from
William LAWRENCE, a young mare, etc.
To my daughter Anne - a young mare, 1 cow & calf, 1 sow & pigs.
To my son Jesse - a mare, 1 cow, 1 cow & calf, 1 sow & pigs.
To my loving (blank) - a mare, 1 cow & calf, 1 sow & pigs.
To my wife - lend to her all the rest of my estate during her life & at her
decease to be divided among all my children.
Other legacies & provisions.
Ex: William SAMFORD, John LAMBERTH.
Witnesses: Hugh WILLIAMS, Samuel CENTALL, William LAMBERTH, Jr.
Probate indicates that William SAMFORD refused to execute; on 25 Sep 1750
William SAMFORD qualified to execute."
And there is the Robert Christie that is a part of my line:
In Edgefield District, SC on 22 July in 1788, Robert Christie witnessed the
will of Sampson Pope. Mr. Pope leaves everything to his wife Susannah,
sons Solomon and Jacob, and grandson Sampson. Asa Samford, Jesse Samford
also witnessed the will. Robert's witness is "his mark", a large cross "
+". This may indicate he was unable to write his name. Sampson Pope's
estate appraisal showed goods and chattels worth $125.36, certified by
Valentine Corley, Aaron Etheridge, and James Blalock.
On 15 April, 1789, Benjamin Tutt and Barbary, his wife, sold to Robert
Christie for 30 pounds 135 acres, granted on 31 Aug 1774. The property was
located on Indian Creek, a branch of the Little Saluda River. Witnessed by
Gabriel Tutt and James Tutt, who swore an oath on 10 Oct 1789 before
Russell Wilson, JP.
Robert Christie died in about 1823 without a will in Edgefield, South
Carolina. His property was auctioned off, and the proceeds distributed
among his heirs. Listed in the distribution are:
Susanah Christie, his widow, who received $332.66,
John H. Smith, husband of daughter Martha Christie, received $76.14,
Josiah A. Christie, son, received $76.14,
Simean Christie, son, received $76.14,
Liheu Christie Administrator to [Iamue?] Crow, $76.14,
William Christie Administrator to Simean Christie, $68.52.
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I am a direct desendant of the Christy's you mentioned. Benjamin & Lydia
had four children, Robert, Mary, Edmund and Lydia. Benjamin's father was
Robert Christy was born about 1766 in Ireland and died 2/19/1826 in
Philadelphia. If any of this is helpful to you please feel fre to email me.
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Please be patient with me. This is the first time I searched or replied to any message borads, I am new at this. I noticed your query, as I said I am a direct decsendant to the Christy's you are searching. I noticed you last name is Mahon. Are you related to Clara Mahon who married Edmund P Christy both from Camden, NJ. Clara Mahon was my great great grandmother. She & Edmund had 8 children. Please email me at Howellma(a)msn.com if you would like more information. I can go all the way back to Ireland. And yes I am related to the E.P. Christy who started the New Christy Minstrels.
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I am a direct desendant of the Christy's you mentioned. Benjamin & Lydia had four children, Robert, Mary, Edmund and Lydia. Benjamin's father was Robert Christy was born about 1766 in Ireland and died 2/19/1826 in Philadelphia. If any of this is helpful to you please feel fre to email me.
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Surnames: Allen,Carr,Davis,Heath,Lynn,Thomas,Walker
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All I know at this point is that the clipping, along with others realted to the Civil War were in a Family Bible maintained mostly by a family named Heath, at least during that time period. I haven't had a chance to do any research on this bible yet. Other surnames are Allen,Carr,Davis,Lynn,Thomas and Walker.
I'm going to take a crack at posting the poem as an attachment again with this message.
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Surnames: Christy
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Was able to save the .jpg of the Christy Poem image you supplied. Thanks. Any thoughts on the identity of Lizzie or place of publication of the poem? I gather that the poem was kept in Lexington, KY.
Paul Christy, g^g^grandson of Samuel Christy, WVA
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Jim . . .
I'd sure like a scan of that photo [and yours and your Dad's, too].
The movement of the Christy's is very difficult to sort out. Ours was supposedly in PA before KY, but given the necessity of moving out of harm's way . . . especially for those who continued to carry the "look" (i.e., "tanned skin," coarse, wiry hair, dark eyes, broader nose, broader lips, etc.), the need to move on might have been a common response to nosey neighbor, and would explain why so many Melungeons ended up on certain ridges . . . living in a Snuffy Smiff kind of close, high-secrecy, unwelcoming to outsiders (and "Revenuers"), etc.
There was a group (a community) in Western Ohio that are thought to be related to the Melungeons. Movement in and out of that community could account for the presence of the same family in PA, OH, and IN -- but I can't prove that assertion. For info on the Ohio "branch" of the Melungeons (or of the Brass Ankles, perhaps), subscribe to the Melungeon List (on RootsWeb) and ask for a knowledgeable Melungeon descendant to run it down to you.
I don't know the origin of that group, but it is not unreasonable to suspect that they left the low yield mountainsides in TN and KY for better top-soil, OR that their darker complexion made them unwelcome among some of their lighter kinsfolk who were more concerned with "passing" than with social justice (etc.).
This could also account for why some reports about the KY and TN Melungeons (by outsiders who visited Sneedville or Newman's Ridge, etc.) might have been so negative: Outsiders simply weren't welcome and weren't made to feel comfortable. Consequently, visitors reported that the Melungeons were anything but friendly, forthcoming, or good-natured.
But not all Melungeon families would have ended up in those KY and TN communities. The mixing in with Choctaw (for our Christy's) or other Indian groups, and the later addition of more African blood (as I suspect was true for our Christy's--considering how long the physical traces endured) -- would both have influenced whether or not such family groups would have been made welcome by established Melungeon communities that were already very sensitive to the need to conceal their ethnic identities . . . so that . . . IF a community was composed of Melungeons who (for the most part) had already become so White-looking (by inter-marriage with Whites in several succeeding generations), then newly arriving branches of the greater Melungeon "family" would probably NOT have been welcome, since their presence among the more established (and "passing") community would have the effect of causing the White neighbors on the hills, in the valleys, and in the towns, to start questioning t!
hem AGAIN about who they were and where they REALLY "came from."
Of course, that's the likely origin of the handy family myth that goes: "we're part Portuguese" [or something else] which would help them to account for the uncommonly dark complexion, curly hair, dark eyes, etc. And those with thick, black hair that wasn;t curky, but merely wavy (or practically straight) could have pointed to the Indian grandma or grandpa as the one who had originated that trait in the family gene pool.
Anyway, communities of Heberdine-looking Melungeons [i.e., with dark blue eyes, dark hair, but without the darker skin], could easily persuade new neighbors that they were Scots, "Black" Irish, Welsh, etc. Working in the coal camps would have helped, too, fopr several reasons . . . including the fact that the coal dust made all the miners look darker from the hairlide to the fingernails . . . but ALSO because mining is a venerable old Welsh profession. Moving anywhere from the coal fields was proof of one's being from a place where mining was done, and a help in being accepted. I know our people were miners.
And when a little "throw-back" was born in a relatively light-complected Melungeon community, the story of the Portuguese (or Indian) grandpa could be trotted out until the child's looks were accepted by the non-Melungeons with whom the family interacted. But you can bet that new families that all looked like the throw-backs would NOT have been welcomed with open arms . . . given the danger their presence in the community would have initiated.
If this stuff interests you at all, subscribe to the Appalachian Quarterly (Wise, Virginia), and you can read a lot of good stuff on Melungeons . . . perhaps the only group besides the Seminoles and Creoles who were "born" in America. Something to be proud of, not to run from kicking and screaming.
Curtis Christy
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Surnames: Turner, White, Canady, Christy
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My G-Grandmother was Fanny Ann Christy [b. Decatur County, Indiana] I have a picture of her- I'd say she was melungeon. I should know; my Dad and I look just like her. I think her Dad's name was Hiram. Any Christy's out there who have heard of Fanny Ann? First marriage was to a Mr. Dixon