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What other sources are there for John Christmas's wife having the last name Border? I've shown the marriage record to a friend, and she agrees that the C of Christmas, is the same letter which begins the name of John's wife.
John Cook
On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:00 PM, Shirley McNeely <alabamakinchaser(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Is this documented?
-----Original Message-----
From: DAVID-MARION ACHURCH
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:53 AM
To: christmas(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHRISTMAS] connection of Thomas Cross Christmas back to 1493
Hello all, these are more details of the connection of Thomas Cross
Christmas back to 1493
I think I have the top of the Thomas Cross Christmas tree. His father was
Charles Goodman Christmas (#1533) and his mother was Mary Cross (#1534).
Charles Goodman Christmas' father was Goodman (Gad) Christmas (#1531) and
his mother (Unknown #176) was Nancy or Anne Duke. Goodman Christmas' father
was Richard Christmas (#223) (c-1590 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England) and
mother was Mary Elizabeth Goodman. Richard Christmas' older brother was
John (#222) (c-1587 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England). John may have gone to
USA with his brother as there is a death listed in Virginia. John and
Richard Christmas' father was John (#220)(born 1552 in Worplesdon, Surrey,
England) and mother was Agnes Border (#221) and they were married in 1575 in
Worplesdon.
John had a younger sister, Jone,#224 born 1554, and a younger brother,
Robert #235 b-1558. John had two older brothers: William #214 b-1545 and
Thomas #219 b-1549. The oldest boy, William, married in 1565 Joan (Jone)
Purs b-1550. They had 3 girls and then William died in 1576. His brother,
Thomas, married his brother's widow, Joan in 1576 and had 4 children – of
which I am a descendant of Thomas and Joan's son, Thomas.
Back to John #220(b-1552) Christmas – his father was Thomas Christmas
#212(1522-1587) a clothier of Guildford and his mother was Joan Inwood #213
(1531-1592). Thomas's father was Henry Christmas #2794 (1492 or 1493-1550)
and mother, Julia #2795, who had married in 1514. The existing tree info
for John #220 and his father and grandfather on the family tree called:
Henry Christmas (1492 -1550), Guildford, Cy of Surrey, England, m. Julia.
These are the gggg grandparents of Sir Thomas Christmas, City of Waterford,
Cy Waterford, Ireland.
Sincerely, Marion Achurch (nee Christmas)
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Is this documented?
-----Original Message-----
From: DAVID-MARION ACHURCH
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:53 AM
To: christmas(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHRISTMAS] connection of Thomas Cross Christmas back to 1493
Hello all, these are more details of the connection of Thomas Cross
Christmas back to 1493
I think I have the top of the Thomas Cross Christmas tree. His father was
Charles Goodman Christmas (#1533) and his mother was Mary Cross (#1534).
Charles Goodman Christmas' father was Goodman (Gad) Christmas (#1531) and
his mother (Unknown #176) was Nancy or Anne Duke. Goodman Christmas' father
was Richard Christmas (#223) (c-1590 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England) and
mother was Mary Elizabeth Goodman. Richard Christmas' older brother was
John (#222) (c-1587 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England). John may have gone to
USA with his brother as there is a death listed in Virginia. John and
Richard Christmas' father was John (#220)(born 1552 in Worplesdon, Surrey,
England) and mother was Agnes Border (#221) and they were married in 1575 in
Worplesdon.
John had a younger sister, Jone,#224 born 1554, and a younger brother,
Robert #235 b-1558. John had two older brothers: William #214 b-1545 and
Thomas #219 b-1549. The oldest boy, William, married in 1565 Joan (Jone)
Purs b-1550. They had 3 girls and then William died in 1576. His brother,
Thomas, married his brother's widow, Joan in 1576 and had 4 children – of
which I am a descendant of Thomas and Joan's son, Thomas.
Back to John #220(b-1552) Christmas – his father was Thomas Christmas
#212(1522-1587) a clothier of Guildford and his mother was Joan Inwood #213
(1531-1592). Thomas's father was Henry Christmas #2794 (1492 or 1493-1550)
and mother, Julia #2795, who had married in 1514. The existing tree info
for John #220 and his father and grandfather on the family tree called:
Henry Christmas (1492 -1550), Guildford, Cy of Surrey, England, m. Julia.
These are the gggg grandparents of Sir Thomas Christmas, City of Waterford,
Cy Waterford, Ireland.
Sincerely, Marion Achurch (nee Christmas)
Christmas web page address: christmas.whturner.com
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Hello all, these are more details of the connection of Thomas Cross Christmas back to 1493
I think I have the top of the Thomas Cross Christmas tree. His father was Charles Goodman Christmas (#1533) and his mother was Mary Cross (#1534). Charles Goodman Christmas' father was Goodman (Gad) Christmas (#1531) and his mother (Unknown #176) was Nancy or Anne Duke. Goodman Christmas' father was Richard Christmas (#223) (c-1590 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England) and mother was Mary Elizabeth Goodman. Richard Christmas' older brother was John (#222) (c-1587 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England). John may have gone to USA with his brother as there is a death listed in Virginia. John and Richard Christmas' father was John (#220)(born 1552 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England) and mother was Agnes Border (#221) and they were married in 1575 in Worplesdon.
John had a younger sister, Jone,#224 born 1554, and a younger brother, Robert #235 b-1558. John had two older brothers: William #214 b-1545 and Thomas #219 b-1549. The oldest boy, William, married in 1565 Joan (Jone) Purs b-1550. They had 3 girls and then William died in 1576. His brother, Thomas, married his brother's widow, Joan in 1576 and had 4 children – of which I am a descendant of Thomas and Joan's son, Thomas.
Back to John #220(b-1552) Christmas – his father was Thomas Christmas #212(1522-1587) a clothier of Guildford and his mother was Joan Inwood #213 (1531-1592). Thomas's father was Henry Christmas #2794 (1492 or 1493-1550) and mother, Julia #2795, who had married in 1514. The existing tree info for John #220 and his father and grandfather on the family tree called: Henry Christmas (1492 -1550), Guildford, Cy of Surrey, England, m. Julia. These are the gggg grandparents of Sir Thomas Christmas, City of Waterford, Cy Waterford, Ireland.
Sincerely, Marion Achurch (nee Christmas)
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Very Respectfully,
Shannon
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To my cousins in the US of A: Maybe you all know this connections but I had my suspicions confirmed today. I'm still hazy on some people so feel free to direct me to information. From the top: Henry Christmas (1493-1514) m. 1514 Julia (?Lnu) had son Thomas (1522-1587)a clothier in Guildford, Surrey, England. Thomas married in 1543 to Joan Inwood who died 1592. Their children were William, Thomas, John, Jone, Robert. I desend from Thomas. Another brother, John married Agnes Border in 1575, had sons John in 1587 and Richard in 1590. Richard married Mary Elizabeth Goodman and had son Goodman (Gad) Christmas in 1616 in Leicestershire, England. I think their son was Charles Goodman Christmas who married Mary Cross who had son, Thomas Cross Christmas. Is this all old news?
My Thomas Christmas had a son Thomas in 1580, who had a son Thomas in 1622, who had a son Richard in 1661, who moved to Waterford, Ireland. He had his son Thomas in 1687 and we stayed in Ireland for 200 years before coming to Canada in 1886.
If anyone wants to correct my records, please email.
Respectfully from, Marion Achurch (nee Christmas) machur(a)shaw.ca
Hello all,
Among the "favorite" premium records Ancestry.com is providing free access
to this weekend are vital records for the Christmas families in Surrey
County, England and South Carolina, USA:
http://www.ancestry.com/cs/us/ancestry-2013
My search yielded a 1574 Surrey County, England marriage record for John
Christmas and Agnes Border, the putative British progenitors of America's
Thomas Cross Christmas line.
Happy hunting, happy holidays, and best wishes for the new year.
Very Respectfully,
Shannon
--
Mr. Shannon S. Christmas
Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist
The Christmas Collective <http://thechristmascollective.com/>
Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions
New York, NY | Washington, DC
P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687
F: 1.888.788.5984
shannon.christmas(a)thechristmascollective.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/