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Author: Kennith_Simpson
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Today I received my DNA test results back from 23andMe. The test results confirm that there is no Native American DNA in my blood line on either side. Therefore any Native American ancestry in my family would only be possible if it is by marriage and not by actual blood line. Both ancestry.com and 23andMe stipulate 0% NA DNA results in all of my tests. I am still waiting on the results for DNA matches and will keep everyone informed.
What this means in a nutshell is that any one related to Thomas Bailey Christian the reported adopted son of Thomas Mastin would not be NA on the paternal side. Any Native American ancestry could only come down through the maternal side. Since the BETA ancestry test included both the maternal and paternal side it would also mean that Mastin Harman Christian nor his wife Jane McKinster had NA DNA. It would also mean that Louisa Katherine Harman did not carry any NA DNA. Any children of these men who had different mothers could still carry NA DNA from their maternal side.
Me, my father Addison D. Simpson son of Jerry Mastin Simpson son of John Walden Simpson, son of Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian son of Mastin Christian, son of Thomas Bailey Christian, are not or were not of Native American Descent. Thomas Bailey Christian was not the son of Chief Cornstalk or his son Elinispisco, and his mother was not of NA ancestry either. BETA DNA testing would have shown any NA DNA on either side of Thomas Bailey Christian.
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Author: Ashlandgirl
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Hi again,
Sorry it took so long to reply but I have a lot going on at home right now. I have read your posts and I am going to try and share what I have learned. I don't know if I am related to your Webb's or not but I don't think so. Here is what I believe:
Richard Whitt and Susannah Skaggs had a son named Hezekiah. That is the Hezekiah Whitt that married Rachel Skaggs. If the oral tradition of J. Red Wolf (cited on other web sites) is correct, Rachel is not a Skaggs by blood. That is an English name that was given to her after she was brought to live with the settlers after Cornstalk's death. Hezekiah N. Whitt (Low Hawk) was said to be named after Rachel's husband because her husband was a friend of Thomas Mastin and had served in military campaigns with him. The daughter of Hezekiah Whitt and Rachel Skaggs that was named Susannah Whitt married a Joseph Webb. I am descended through their son, Hezekiah Jackson Webb. He married Mary Jane Thompson. One of their son's is my grandfather.
The story here is going to be difficult to sort out because there is more than one Hezekiah Whitt, Richard Whitt, and Rachel Skaggs plus there are Susannahs all over the place. I have read one online account where a woman named Rachel Skaggs may have been a white captive of one Native American group but was later returned. I don't believe this is my Rachel because I think that Rachel married someone else. I have seen trees here that list people other than Cornstalk and one of his wives as the parents of my Rachel. I think there is significant confusion about all of this. This is why I intend to keep all of my trees private until I can research enough documentation to have some confidence about the trees that I post.
The oral tradition in my family is fairly weak. My mother remembers being told by her father's sister-in-law, long after my grandparents were gone, that she had a Cherokee ancestor. For some reason, my mom believed that the ancestor was on her mother's side but she can't remember clearly. My grandmother's ( my mother's mother) family is impossible to trace for reasons I won't go into. It makes more sense that my great aunt by marriage would have been researching her own husband's family and not her sister-in-laws family that can't be traced. I hope that won't confuse the results here. Hezekiah and Rachel are on my mother's father's side. I am not familiar with what DNA can and can not tell us in terms of our relations that are only a few generations back. I don't know if it will matter that I have both male and female ancestors between Rachel and myself. I don't know what DNA test I should order or whether or not it will shed any light on this question of the descendants o!
f Chief Cornstalk. It is possible that my father has distant Native American ancestors as well, though this is undocumented. Any suggestions? Feel free to contact me through the private messaging system here.
Yesterday, I came across a curious little nugget. I found an 1820 census document for a Hezekiah Whitt of Tazewell County that listed 2 of the 3 people living in the house as "foreigners- not naturalized". Is this our Hezekiah? I wonder if they were trying to hide from the rolls that would get members of his household sent on the Trail of Tears. What's the story there?!
In the meant time, I will continue to search for any records that may shed some light on this and I will be happy to share what I find.
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Author: Kennith_Simpson
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I am showing Susannah Skaggs as being the daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Moredoct, (Moredock). If Susannah Skaggs is related to Rachel then she would not be NA She would be the daughter of James Skaggs not Cornstalk. I have a confirmed BETA DNA match that shows my ancestry going back to Lydia Skaggs as being my 5th great-grandmother and James Skaggs as being my 6th great-grandfather This line proceeds down through Louisa Katherine Harman my 4th great-grandmother and Mastin (Maston) (sp), Christian as my 3rd great-grandfather. So both of my lines the Simpson line and the Christian line married into the Skaggs family and the Whitt family.
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Author: Kennith_Simpson
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I just read your post today. It is really helpful that we can actually include relatives to Hezekiah Whitt and Rachel Skaggs in this thread. I took the 23andMe DNA test and was hoping to be able to post the results here but it seems to be taking forever to get any results back. I just received notice that they were having trouble isolating sufficient DNA to run my test and were redoing it. It is taking weeks to get this done. Very frustrating.
I am really intrigued about your relationship to the Webb family. Are you by any chance related to Rhoda Elizabeth Webb, she was about 1/2 to 2/3 Cherokee. She was the daughter of George Webb. Rhoda Elizabeth Webb married a Cherokee Indian that took the name of John Ailes Webb in order to give their children a white man's last name. John disappeared around 1850 in the area of Tazewell Virginia. In 1850 my great, great, grandfather married Rhoda E. Webb and they moved to Wyoming County where they raised her children. It is thought that all of her children were the product of her Indian Husband but there is some thought that one or two of them may have been fathered by John Walden Simpson her white husband, due to the fact that John disappeared and the exact date is unknown.
Also my great, great Uncle John H. Simpson (Elizabeth's brother) married a Frances Jane Elizabeth Whitt, 1864/1866, Tazewell Virginia. Frances Whitt was the daughter of William Gibson Whitt and Sarah Ann Lockhart. Frances Whitt was born in Clynch Valley, Tazewell, 1845. The line appears to go like this:
Richard Oney Witt, 1680, Charles City Virginia, Married Mary Kimbro 1700, Married in Laurens SC, 1700.
They had Richard Whitt, 1725-1812 and Hezekiah Whitt, 1730-1790. Richard married Susannah Skaggs, around 1755.
Richard Whitt and Susannah Skaggs had Archibald Whitt 1763-1831 born in SC.
Archibald Whitt had several wives, one was Frances Jacobs, Archibald and Frances had William Gibson Whitt, which brings us around to Frances Whitt who married my great, great, uncle.
Hope this made sense.
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Author: jlchris64
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Sidney, is my Great grandfather, I am trying to find out who his mother and father are.
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