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Hello. I have direct decendents from Western Pennsylvania
with the last name Christian. My paternal grandfather was John James Christian from the Pittsburg area...I was having a hell of a time trying to find anything beyond that until I found his marriage certificate just tonight that listed his parents last name as Skistemas from Poland. Still researching why/where the last name change came into effect.
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Author: pchristian48
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My relatives are from the nanticoke area. The names were Stanley and Mary Christian (Husband and wife, both from Poland) and their kids Anthony, Frances, Sophia, Stella, Leonard, Charlie, Edward, Walter....?
Any other Christian families in the Pennsylvania area?
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There are Christian families in Schuylkill County, possible all descended from a John Christian.
Born about 1800-1820 were Daniel, John, William, Jacob and Benjamin Christian. These four were perhaps brothers and it is not clear where they were born but they and there descendants generally had a presence in the Pottsville area of Schuylkill County in the 1800s.
I am descended from Jacob and Mary although Jacob had 3 or 4 wives.
I am interested in corresponding with any descendants or folks who may have information on these families or connections thereto.
Earl Hoffman
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> My relatives are from the nanticoke area. The names were Stanley and Mary Christian (Husband and wife, both from Poland) and their kids Anthony, Frances, Sophia, Stella, Leonard, Charlie, Edward, Walter....?
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This is the first I had heard of this. But wanted proof of the children.
That he was indeed Cornstalk. Yes I would love to have the place you found
the infro. Annie
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> My understanding is that Hezekiah Whitt was the brother of my ancestor
> Thomas Bailey Christian. When they were orphaned by the murder of their
> father Ellipsico they were adopted by mr Mastin (along with two additional
> siblings) who gave Hezekiah the name Whitt. Thomas Bailey Christian's
> surname was unchanged. What I read said that Thomas was a witness because
> not only did he know Hezekiah but they were brothers.
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> I am new at geneology. If you would like the source where I found that
> information I will dig it up for you. I would welcome any tips about what
> the etiquette or protocol is for documentation or forwarding information.
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Rejoining the conversation...
I have communicated with two main correspondents: one who believed the Cornstalk story, the other didn't. Both promised to send me their proofs (they said they had copies of documents, not links to a website) sometime last year. I never got any of it.
I am aware of the gedcoms, the werelate site, the transcription of Hezekiah Whitt's will in which he includes a bequest to "my brother Thomas Christian," and the older Whitt's pension, where Thomas says he was an orphan. In short, the pension application is the only part of the entire story I can verify, or prove that anyone else has verified.
To asmcj: you asked about etiquette. It's not very formal on message boards. But when you pass along information taken from somewhere else, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell us where! When questions arise, other researchers will be able to duplicate and decide for themselves. Off message boards, don't copy someone else's gedcom without documentation.
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Author: MrsCatherinedeeAuvil
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There were (at least) 2 Hezekiah Whitts at that time in the Indian Creek area of Tazewell, Virginia. One was a friend of Thomas Mastin (who adopted our Thomas Bailey Christian).
And the story passed down in the family is that Thomas Mastin named one of the orphans after Hezekiah Whitt #1.
You can follow the links where I have all the notes we have found and we keep them at WeRelate.
http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Christian_(13)
Catherine dee Auvil
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Is the Christian Chronicles a website or newsletter or something that I can access and "join"?
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Author: asmcj
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My understanding is that Hezekiah Whitt was the brother of my ancestor Thomas Bailey Christian. When they were orphaned by the murder of their father Ellipsico they were adopted by mr Mastin (along with two additional siblings) who gave Hezekiah the name Whitt. Thomas Bailey Christian's surname was unchanged. What I read said that Thomas was a witness because not only did he know Hezekiah but they were brothers.
I am new at geneology. If you would like the source where I found that information I will dig it up for you. I would welcome any tips about what the etiquette or protocol is for documentation or forwarding information.
Many thanks!
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thank you!
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If Thomas and Hezekiah were brothers. Did Hezekiah take the name of Witt
because he was raised by the Witts. Thomas was raised by Thomas Mastin. Why
did he take the name of Christian. Was he really the grandson of Indian
Chief Cornstalk?
Annie
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:44 PM
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I would like to jump in with some information, hope you don't mind. My line
descends from Thomas Christian (Tazewell County, Virginia) Please note the
will left by Hezekiah N. Whitt. The will names his brother Thomas B.
Christian, his sister Sarah Adkins. Will of Hezikiah N Witt, In the name
of God, Amen, June 21, 1815. I, Hezekiah N. Whitt, of the County of
Tazewell, being in perfect health and mind do hereby make testimony. It is
my will that all just debts and funeral charges in full be paid. I leave to
my brother, Thomas B. Christian, all my apparel, both linen and woolen, and
my horses and oxen. I leave to my sister, Sarah Adkins, £70, to be paid by
my brother Thomas B. Christian, and two silver salt cellars and pots. It is
also my will that my burying place be for ever kept and be appropriated for
that use and none other, and I hereby devise the said burying ground,
containing three acres and 1/2, for as to be the burying place for all my
descendants, and my wife Hannah shall allow to be there buried. Last be
known it, I leave to my wife, Hannah Whitt, 1/2 of two lots lying at Indian
Creek, in Tazewell County, on the south side of the River, and now in
occupation of Moses Christian; also all my estate at Sinking Waters, while
she remains my widow, and she is to pay all my just debts and funeral
charges. "I leave to my brother, Thomas B. Christian, my gold ring and my
morters, and to him £100, he paying to the Patron or Lord of the Manor 5
bushels of wheat". I leave to my brother, Thomas B. Christian, after my
wife's death or marriage, all the rest of the farm, and he is to pay to my
sister, Sarah Adkins, £50, and to all my nephews and nieces, £5, and to the
Patron or Lord of the Manor 5 bushels of wheat. I make my wife executor.
Hezekiah N. Whitt In the witness of William Davis & Thomas B. Christian
Will was executed September 18, 1817, 15 days after the death of said
Hezekiah Whitt. Signed in authority of the State of Virginia by Leonard S.
Harper
In God We Trust
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> There was a William McGuire who, along with Thomas Christian, signed their
> names certifying that they knew Hezekiah Whitt for Whitt's Revolutionary
> War pension application. This Wm McGuire was apparently a pastor.
> I am also descended from Thomas Christian through his son Mathias and
> Mathias' son George R. Christian. :-)
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There was a William McGuire who, along with Thomas Christian, signed their names certifying that they knew Hezekiah Whitt for Whitt's Revolutionary War pension application. This Wm McGuire was apparently a pastor.
I am also descended from Thomas Christian through his son Mathias and Mathias' son George R. Christian. :-)
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Author: MrsCatherinedeeAuvil
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Here is a copy of the original genforum post Date: December 31, 2000 at 10:19:53
Genforum message # 1207
http://genforum.genealogy.com/christian/messages/1207.html
Hi all you Christian researcher!
This Christian line is well documented. I explored it trying to fit in my Lewis Jefferson Christian b. 1810 in TN?, m. Lavina Frazier, d. 1896 in Gentry Co., MO. Here is some info from Ms. Branch, the editor of the Christian Chronicals. She is answering some questions about contemporary Thomas Christian's and describing the difference. Hope this clears up some for you all.
Dear Linda and other Christian Cousins:
The following is being sent to all of you who received information that "Old Lewis' brother Nathaniel settled in Tazewell Co., VA . . ."
Not so! Or at least I have never seen any evidence that would substantiate such a move. Indeed, I have written numerous letters within the last year showing that Nathaniel Christian's son Thomas was not the one who settled in Tazewell Co., VA. Where on earth is all this erroneous and dubious information coming from?
Thomas Christian, progenitor of Tazewell Co., VA, was born about 1770-a boy of only 9 years of age when Nathaniel Christian's estate was settled in Montgomery Co., VA. A 9-year-old boy would have been too young to have served as security of his father's estate. Nathaniel Christian's son Thomas, born about 1750-57, was one of the securities of Nathaniel's estate (along with Thomas' brother-in-law William Boydston); and, of course, as a 22 to 29-year-old was quite old enough to serve in such a capacity. Nathaniel's son Thomas was living in Cocke Co., TN, in 1830 at the same time the other Thomas was living in Tazewell Co., VA. The U. S. census as well as other records document their presence and approximate ages. It is my guess that because, as court records reveal, Thomas of Tazewell was "an orphan," someone simply assumed that he must have been Nathaniel's son, but that simply was not the case.
As for Nathaniel Christian: Following are a few documented events of his life:
Nathaniel was born between 1723-1733 since he was named as underaged son in 23 October 1743 Goochland Co., VA, will of father, Thomas Christian.
Nathaniel married Jane ??Ewing?? about 1747.
Nathaniel's daughter Elizabeth Christian was born 1748.
Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was born 1750-57.
Nathaniel was listed as tithe in Lunenburg Co., VA, in 1752 as was his brother Thomas.
Nathaniel purchased 175 acres (of 225) on Cub Creek in Lunenburg Co., VA, 1 July 1754. Brother Thomas was witness to the purchase..
Bedford Co., VA, was formed from part of Albemarle and Lunenburg 1753-4.
Brother Thomas in Bedford Co., VA, by 25 November 1760.
Nathaniel's son Isham was born about 1760.
Nathaniel sold 175 acres on Cub Creek of Lunenburg Co., VA, 12 March 1762 with brother Thomas as witness.
Nathaniel made entry of 400 acres in Bedford Co., VA, lower side south of Blackwater on Hastie's & Smith's lines beginning at Irwin's corner red oak under Smith's Mountain 28 February 1763.
Nathaniel's son Anthony was born about 1765.
Pittsylvania formed from Halifax adjacent Bedford 1766-7; county boundaries in state of flux for several years.
Nathaniel was on list of tithables in Pittsylvania 1767.
Nathaniel attended Bedford Co., VA, court in August 1768 (28 miles from home).
Nathaniel entered 400 acres Poison Fork of Bull Run in Bedford Co., VA, adjacent
his own lines & Swanson's 4 April 1769.
Nathaniel's daughter Drucilla was born about 1769.
Brother Thomas allowed 30 miles to Bedford Co., VA, Courthouse March 1771.
Nathaniel living in Pittsylvania Co., VA, 22 July 1773
[Note: Nathaniel's home location in Pittsylvania Co., Va, straddled Bedford Co., VA, near where his brother Thomas lived on Staunton River in Bedford.]
Nathaniel was assigned 400 acres on East River below Five-Mile Fork, 3 Miles from Mouth in Montgomery Co., VA, by James Adair about 1777.
Daughter Elizabeth married William Boydston 1777 in Montgomery Co., VA,
In 1777/1778 Nathaniel Christian and William Boydston swore allegiance to Militia in Montgomery Co., VA.
Sometime after 1777 and before November 1781, Nathaniel's brother Thomas died, apparently in Bedford Co., VA.
Nathaniel died intestate and estate was administered in Montgomery Co., VA, 2 March 1779. Widow Jane was named as administrator with son Thomas and son-in-law William Boydston as security.
As heir under laws of primogenitor, eldest son Thomas inherited 400 acres on East River in Montgomery Co., VA, which he assigned to brothers Isham and Anthony Christian 3 April 1786. By 18 September 1799 Nathaniel's son Thomas Christian was of Cocke Co., TN
As for "Old Lewis Christian": The progenitor Lewis Christian of Hawkins Co., TN, was born between 1750 and 1760, obviously much too young to have been the brother of Nathaniel. Nathaniel's brother Lewis (aka Louis) was born between 1722 and 1743 since he was an underaged son named in the Goochland Co., VA, 23 October 1743 will of Thomas Christian. Although I do not have the same degree of documentation about Nathaniel's brother Lewis, I believe he may have been the Lewis Christian, also of Bedford Co., VA, who died shortly before July 1785, only a few years after his presusmed brothers Nathaniel and Thomas. Please note, however, that such a relationship is speculation since I have not yet followed the early Lewis year by year.
One final comment: I believe that the Thomas Christian of Tazewell Co., VA, was probably related in some way to this family; however, I do not have any documentation that proves such a connection. Was he perhaps a son of David Christian, another son named in the 1743 will of Thomas Christian?
I welcome your input and evaluation of the above information.
Agnes Branch Pearlma
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Author: asmcj
Surnames: Christian, McGuire, Tazewell VA
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Hello, this letter is also reprinted on geneology.com and on appalachianaristocracy.com. Neither website provides the original source of the letter.
Not sure if this is helpful. appalachian aristocracy does have some fairly comprehensive information of the Cornstalk line.
If you ever find the original source of the letter I would be thrilled to hear about it. I am descended from Thomas Bailey Christian and have only just begun researching my ancestors.
My grandmother Izora Christian, whose family had long been setteled in Greenbrier County WV, married George Perry McGuire who was born in Tazewell, VA. I never understood how my granddad "found" that particular corner of Greenbrier County (Falling Creek area) because it is VERY remote. Finding Thomas Bailey Christian in the Tazewell area was an "aha" moment and I now wonder whether the Christian and McGuire families knew each other, and if that was how my granddad McGuire eventually made his way to Greenbrier County where he worked for my Great-granddad Bailey Christian. If you would share any information you might have about the Thomas Bailey branch of the Christians, or any possible connection to the McGuires of Tazewell VA, I would be grateful.
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I am trying to connect the dots for my genealogy research. I have a death certificate showing that a Attie Christon was the father of John W. Simpson. John W. Simpson's mother was Betsie Simpson. Apparently she never married Mr. Christian and whne John was born gave him her maiden name. I am unable to locate any information on Attie Christan. I believe Betsie Simpson was actually Elizabeth Simpson and John W. Simpson was named after Elizabeth's father John W. Simpson. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The only thing I have is that he was Baptized on March 16, 1861 in Prospect, NS at Our Lady of Mount Carmel.
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Author: topher1069
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Looking for info on my 1st cousin, 5 times removed. John Everett CHRISTIAN (son of Edward Christian and Frances White), born 16 Feb 1862, Prospect, NS and died 18 Nov 1933, Victoria, BC. He came to BC in 1895 and may have been married once and had John and Donald [they were listed as children at his time of death].
He did marry Gladys Maude CAMERON 11 Feb 1919, Victoria, BC. She was born in 1884, Victoria, BC and died Victoria, BC and they had Phyllis and Creta / Greta.
Any help would be appreciated :)
Chris
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