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CHRISTIAN, Anges
CARTWRIGHT, Thomas
Jan. 22, 1791
Thomas Masten
Thomas Masten is identified as the Bondsman - This information found and provided by USGenWeb Project internet site.
Sumner County Tennessee
Marriage Records 1787-1838
In God We Trust
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I have used Appalachian Aristocracy a lot. I am becoming more and more skepticle about the Red Wolf messages. I still think he really believes what he offers but in going back over his messages from early 2000 and up I think he is to inflexable and does not like to acknowledge he might be wrong. The Christian Family Chronicles are also based too much on Oral History. But we should keep in mind that bot Red Wolf and Agness Pearlman did not have the same means to discover the facts as we do today so it is really difficult to fault them for relying so much on Oral History.
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It the story of Jenny Wiley. I think it was Mastin Christian was an Indian
fighter. He helped to find Jenny My grandparents were first cousins. So
must not have been froened on too much.
Annie
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> Looking at the situation from a diff. angle. I checked on the
> relationship of Rebecca Christian to the Christian family. Rebecca
> Christian and Addison B. Christian were both grandchildren of Thomas
> Bailey Christian. I believe that would have made them first cousins? such
> a marriage would have been frowned upon in the white society but does
> anyone have an opinion on how it have been viewed within the Cherokee or
> Shawnee society? Or, did everyone know that Addison Attie Bailey
> Christian was not of the NA blood line and it was not a problem????
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> Also I did some research this weekend reviewing old messages and web
> sites that I had previously visited. One of the problems with the
> Christian name in 1770 was that no one seem to know it except for Col.
> William Christian. In the book FRONTIER FORTS OF SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA, by
> Emory L. Hamilitan and from HISTORICAL SKETCHES OF SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA,
> NUMBER 4, 1968, pages 1 to 26. There is mention of a "Fort Christian that
> was better known as Glade Hollow Fort. The fort lies between
> Dickernsonville and Lebanon (Russell Co. Va.) on Cedar Creek. The fort
> was erected in 1774. It is beleived the land may have belonged to James
> smith who disappeared from all records after 1777. After the indian
> hostilities ceased it is believed the old Glade Hollow Fort was converted
> into a church known as Glade Hollow Church (fort Christian). No one knows
> why the fort was named Fort Christian or who actually built the fort. If
> James Smith who is believed to have owned the land why wasn't !
> ! the fort called Fort Smith? Could there have been members of the
> Christian family there before James Smith and killed by indians, thus the
> Fort was named in their honor. Colonel Christian came upon the fort
> already constructed. There is no mention as to who actually named the
> fort. But one could infer that members of the Christian family had passed
> through the area in the early 1700's. I think it is safe to say that
> there are probably many restless souls resting in the fields of Virginia
> that will forever go unknown, victims of Indian Massacres. Just as there
> are many Indians souls unaccounted for.
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This is long after the fact but another really good summation of a lot of this information is on appalachianaristocracy.com
The Christian Family Chronicles and some of the J Red Wolf information is quoted there.
You can look up all of the "players" in this mystery and click back and forth between them.
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Wasn't Red Wolf's Hezekiah Whitt about 17 when he alleges the adoption occurred (1777 or 1778)?
I can see where it's possible he could be the same Hezekiah as
"Richard and Susannah Skaggs hda a son Hezekiah Whitt
born 1761, died 1846"
What else is known about THIS Hezekiah??? Did he have any relationship with Thomas Christian, and Thomas Mastin, that would have ultimately led Thomas Christian to swear they were brothers?
Also, DNA links???
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This message really doesn't belong to this thread but I wanted to make sure it got to those that have been following my work.
JRed Wolf and Agnes Peralma spent a lot of time arguing that Hezekiah Whitt was the son the Elinipsico Cornstalk and that Thomas Christian was his brother. I had mentioned that my great, great, grandmother Elizabeth Simpson had a brother by the name of John Hackman Simpson, born around 1840/44. I had not done much work on him since he stayed in Tazewell married and raised a family there, while everyone else migrated to McDowell and Wyoming Counties. I knew that JH Simpson had married a Francis Jane Whitt. Francis was born in Clinch Valley, Tazewell and died in Burkes Garden, Tazewell. So I spent some time on following her line.
Francis Jane Elizabeth Whitt 1845-1925
Daughter of William Gibson Whitt and Sarah Ann Lockhart
Married John Hackman Simpson
William Gibson Whitt 1825-1897
Born Clinch Valley, died, Burks Garden, Tazewell
Son of Archibald Whitt
Archibald Whitt 1763-1831
Married Hanna Low
Archibald was born in SC and died in Montgomery Virginia
Son of Richard Whitt & Susanna Skaggs
Father of Hezekiah Whitt born in 1796
Richard Whitt 1725-1812
Born in South Carolina, died in Montgomery Virginia
Married Susannah Skaggs
Son of Richard Witt (Whitt)
Richard and Susannah Skaggs hda a son Hezekiah Whitt
born 1761, died 1846
Richard Whitt 1680-1764
Born in Charles City Virginia, died Bute North Carolina
Married Mary Kimbro
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Richard Oney Whitt 1725-1769
Born in Charles City, Virginia, died in Bute NC
Reportedly married Regina Whitt, 1736 a 11 year old girl.
richard Oney Whitt also reported to have married a Elizabeth Liptrot, date unk.
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Richard Oney Whitt & Mary Kimbro had a son Hezekiah Whitt born Augusta Virginia, 1730, Died 1790 Rutherford NC
I am hopeing that someone will challenge my findings and either prove or find them false.
I believe that Hezekiah "Low Hauk" Whitt was not the son of Elinipsico Cornstalk, but the child of a white family by the name of WHITT, and had somwhow become separated from the family and ended up in the hands of Cornstalks family. Who fortunatly aplparently took very good care of him and treated him as one of their own.
While this does not make the connection between my family and the Thomas Bailey Family, it does add credence to the possibility that The Christian Family Chronicles and the Oral History of Red Wolf are not entirely correct.
It also makes me related to the Hezekiah Whitt family at least by marriage.
It may also help support my claim that Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian and I share the same DNA. If I can show that Hezekiah was not the son of a NA then it would be easy to say that neither was Thomas Christian.
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This message really doesn't belong to this thread but I wanted to make sure it got to those that have been following my work.
JRed Wolf and Agnes Peralma spent a lot of time arguing that Hezekiah Whitt was the son the Elinipsico Cornstalk and that Thomas Christian was his brother. I had mentioned that my great, great, grandmother Elizabeth Simpson had a brother by the name of John Hackman Simpson, born around 1840/44. I had not done much work on him since he stayed in Tazewell married and raised a family there, while everyone else migrated to McDowell and Wyoming Counties. I knew that JH Simpson had married a Francis Jane Whitt. Francis was born in Clinch Valley, Tazewell and died in Burkes Garden, Tazewell. So I spent some time on following her line.
Francis Jane Elizabeth Whitt 1845-1925
Daughter of William Gibson Whitt and Sarah Ann Lockhart
Married John Hackman Simpson
William Gibson Whitt 1825-1897
Born Clinch Valley, died, Burks Garden, Tazewell
Son of Archibald Whitt
Archibald Whitt 1763-1831
Married Hanna Low
Archibald was born in SC and died in Montgomery Virginia
Son of Richard Whitt & Susanna Skaggs
Father of Hezekiah Whitt born in 1796
Richard Whitt 1725-1812
Born in South Carolina, died in Montgomery Virginia
Married Susannah Skaggs
Son of Richard Witt (Whitt)
Richard and Susannah Skaggs hda a son Hezekiah Whitt
born 1761, died 1846
Richard Whitt 1680-1764
Born in Charles City Virginia, died Bute North Carolina
Married Mary Kimbro
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Richard Oney Whitt 1725-1769
Born in Charles City, Virginia, died in Bute NC
Reportedly married Regina Whitt, 1736 a 11 year old girl.
richard Oney Whitt also reported to have married a Elizabeth Liptrot, date unk.
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Richard Oney Whitt & Mary Kimbro had a son Hezekiah Whitt born Augusta Virginia, 1730, Died 1790 Rutherford NC
I am hopeing that someone will challenge my findings and either prove or find them false.
I believe that Hezekiah "Low Hauk" Whitt was not the son of Elinipsico Cornstalk, but the child of a white family by the name of WHITT, and had somwhow become separated from the family and ended up in the hands of Cornstalks family. Who fortunatly aplparently took very good care of him and treated him as one of their own.
While this does not make the connection between my family and the Thomas Bailey Family, it does add credence to the possibility that The Christian Family Chronicles and the Oral History of Red Wolf are not entirely correct.
It also makes me related to the Hezekiah Whitt family at least by marriage.
It may also help support my claim that Addison "Attie" Bailey Christian and I share the same DNA. If I can show that Hezekiah was not the son of a NA then it would be easy to say that neither was Thomas Christian.
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Looking at the situation from a diff. angle. I checked on the relationship of Rebecca Christian to the Christian family. Rebecca Christian and Addison B. Christian were both grandchildren of Thomas Bailey Christian. I believe that would have made them first cousins? such a marriage would have been frowned upon in the white society but does anyone have an opinion on how it have been viewed within the Cherokee or Shawnee society? Or, did everyone know that Addison Attie Bailey Christian was not of the NA blood line and it was not a problem????
Also I did some research this weekend reviewing old messages and web sites that I had previously visited. One of the problems with the Christian name in 1770 was that no one seem to know it except for Col. William Christian. In the book FRONTIER FORTS OF SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA, by Emory L. Hamilitan and from HISTORICAL SKETCHES OF SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA, NUMBER 4, 1968, pages 1 to 26. There is mention of a "Fort Christian that was better known as Glade Hollow Fort. The fort lies between Dickernsonville and Lebanon (Russell Co. Va.) on Cedar Creek. The fort was erected in 1774. It is beleived the land may have belonged to James smith who disappeared from all records after 1777. After the indian hostilities ceased it is believed the old Glade Hollow Fort was converted into a church known as Glade Hollow Church (fort Christian). No one knows why the fort was named Fort Christian or who actually built the fort. If James Smith who is believed to have owned the land why wasn't !
the fort called Fort Smith? Could there have been members of the Christian family there before James Smith and killed by indians, thus the Fort was named in their honor. Colonel Christian came upon the fort already constructed. There is no mention as to who actually named the fort. But one could infer that members of the Christian family had passed through the area in the early 1700's. I think it is safe to say that there are probably many restless souls resting in the fields of Virginia that will forever go unknown, victims of Indian Massacres. Just as there are many Indians souls unaccounted for.
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I have a few Christians from Ontario, none that you list ring a bell.
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Nice message, thanks. I have come to feel very sorry for Cornstalk and his entire family. It must have been very difficult for them, being well respected within their own tribes and at the same time helping the white man. Even when there were serious hostilities they choose to take the side of the white man.
I would like to ask your opinion on something that I have noticed a lot in my research. In a lot of articles Chief Cornstalk and his son are mentioned as guests of the fort who were trying to help the white man. In some articles they are listed as prisoner, or being held as hostages, to prevent attacks. Does any one know the tgruth?
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I have read part of it. It is very interesting but consider this. Grenadier was his sister and she was very helpful to the whites, before and after the attacks. But with her being blood related to Cornstalk she would have had contact with the rest of his kin folk tribe ete. So why would Cornstalks sister turn his children over to the white men no matter how well she was liked. If she was afraid for the safety of the children she could have taken or sent them deeper into Indian Country where they would be with their own kind and away from much of the fighting. It would be a very, very rare instance where whites would raise Indian children. On the other hand the NA's did take white children captive at just about every opportunity. If the children were white or part white, I can understand how Grenadier could have feaared for their safety after the murder of Cornstalk and his son. Grenadier may have in fact been instrumental in telling Thomas Msatin and his men about!
the children in the first place. After the murder of Chief Cornstalk and his son the Indians were outraged and new Indian Wars were started. I would be more inclined to believe that Grenadier was afraid for the children safety in the hands of the Indians. Being Cornstalks sister she would have had first hand knowledge of them. It could also be a way for her to keep her good standing with the whites at the fort by basically turning in the children.
I think that both the white man and the native American believed that blood was thicker than water. If these children were of native blood the tribe would not let them go that easily.
A new point that has not been raised. The Indians were on the war path after the murder of Cornstalk and his son, whites were being killed as well as Indians. If these children were of Indian blood, especially if they were the children of Chief Cornstalk or his son. The whites outside the influence of Thomas Mastin would have turned on the children they would not have accepted them into their society so easily. remember that Hezekiah Whitt would have been 17. The white man would have seen him as a threat. After all prior to the Fort Randolph experience had not Chief Cornstalk himself been involved in at least two atrocities involving the massacre of white men woman and children.
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So much for me taking a break while waiting for my DNA results.
My reason for posting these sources is because, by following up on various Cornstalk family members, and their activities and locations, it is my hope that we will find possible sources and leads to chase down that may eventually lead us to some mention of orphaned Cornstalk children that were later adopted by Thomas Mastin. And of course always hoping to find some mention of a woman named Standing Deer Bailey.
http://www.wvencyclopedia.org/articles/59:
Nonhelema was the sister of Shawnee chief Cornstalk and, as the leader of a Shawnee village near the present Circleville, Ohio, a person of importance in her own right. Because of her unusual height and fine carriage the settlers identified her as the ''Grenadier Squaw,'' in reference to the grenadiers, the finest and tallest soldiers in the British service. A Christian missionary had named her Katherine, and she was called Kate or Ketty.
She adopted the white settlers, serving as an interpreter, and in May 1776 was living at Fort Randolph, Point Pleasant, when Indians attacked. Although the Indians were driven off, Ketty learned that they intended to attack Fort Donnally, near Lewisburg. She dressed heroic Philip Hammond and John Pryor Indianstyle, and they managed to bypass the Indians and warn Fort Donnally. The attack was beaten off until a relief force from Lewisburg, led by Col. Sam Lewis and Capt. Matthew Arbuckle, relieved the fort.
Nonhelema had a daughter, Fannie or Fawney. They were observed at the meeting between Lord Dunmore, Cornstalk, Col. Andrew Lewis and others at Camp Charlotte, riding fine horses with elegant saddles. Her 1785 petition to Congress for a grant of land near her Ohio home was never acted upon. She moved to a place near Pittsburgh. Another petition on her behalf was signed by 18 white settlers but, presumably, was ignored.
Her fate and that of her daughter are unknown.
This Article was written by Joseph Crosby Jefferds Jr.
Last Revised on August 13, 2012
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There are two users who have added loads of Chalkey notes to WeRelate.
I have worked a lot on Nathaniel Christian's family at WeRelate. I urge you to join me there - anything we can find out about that family will help us with TBC.
sdsfgf - would you like us to create more threads for this topic here at Ancestry?
Please put future DNA info about TBC in the TBC DNA thread I started so we can keep it all in one place.
If anyone is interested please join the Yahoo Nikitie message board. We study everyone who lived at Indian Creek in Tazewell. You should know that we allow conjecture and brainstorming there.
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Kennith, you may have already read this. This story may be reproduced elsewhere and if so, sorry for giving you information you may already have.
But this book is reproduced in its entirety online and I assume this man's story is one of the original sources of what happened at Point Pleasant.
http://www.archive.org/stream/militiaintherevolu00mcalrich/militiainthere...
These are the firsthand accounts of Virginia Militiamen who received Revolutionary War Pensions. The accounts are fascinating, full of little details; personal acccounts of men who were with Washington when he crossed the Delaware, etc etc.
This is the account of an individual who was present at the conflict at Point Pleasant. While no mention is made of orphaned children (or STB), he does confirm that in addition to Cornstalk, Ellinipsico, and one other Indian being killed, he also says that an Indian woman (Grenadier Squaw) they understood to be the sister of Cornstalk was there but he does not say she was killed. So that does not fully corroborate J Red Wolf's story. She was clearly collaborating with the whites however even after Cornstalk and Ellinipsico were killed. In fact, it clearly conveys that she was under the protection of the whites at the fort ((she had taken shelter at the fort soon after it was erected and was still with them). Per the narrative it seems she was free to enter and leave the fort at will.
Now for the part where I start making assumptions - if she survived, and IF there were orhpaned Cornstalk children, and IF she was Chief Cornstalk's sister, this is a case where a member of the Cornstalk family clearly had friendly relations with the whites, and this is another possible avenue that the orphaned children (if any!) might have been freely handed over to the white community.
Regardless, this is a great story so if you havent read it before, enjoy!
84 VIRGINIA MILITIA IN THE REVOLUTION
Section No. 61
PRYOR, WILLIAM. Amherst, Oct. 15, 1832. Born in
Albemarle (now Amherst), about 1752. Moved to the Great
Kanawha in fall of 1773, and planted corn next spring, but was
driven back to Amherst by Indians. Was at Point Pleasant, spring
of 1775, and there saw Capt. Isaac Shelby, who had been left with
the wounded after the battle the preceding October. Early in 1776
the Indians were so troublesome that he, with many others had to
take shelter in the fort at Point Pleasant, and here substituted for
James Frazer, in the command of Capt. Matthew Arbuckle, who
was in charge of the fort. The subalterns were Lieutenants Andrew
Wallace, James Thompson and Ensigns Samuel Wood and James
McNutt. After serving out eight months for Frazer in the fall
he enlisted under Arbuckle for two years. About this time Capt.
William McKee, Lt. James Gilmer, and many privates came to
Point Pleasant and were stationed under Arbuckle. Was often
sent on detail with others up the Kanawha to a plantation to get
corn, and was often a spy or on guard on the Ohio above the fort.
In the fall of 1777, Colonels Skillern and Dickinson came on an
expedition against the Shawnee towns. He met this force at the
mouth of Elk. Among others of them were James Harrison and
Micajah Goodwin. When they reached the fort, Lt. Gilmer went
over the Kanawha to shoot turkeys and was there killed by unknown
Indians. As soon as Gilmer s body was brought to the fort his men
murdered Cornstalk, his son Ellinipsico, and another Indian, these
Indians being held as hostages for the safety of the garrison and
the settlers. While Skillern and Dickenson were at Point Pleasant,
Gen. Hand, of the Continental army, came from Pittsburg and
ordered a return, saying it was too late in the season to attack
Chillicothe and other Indian towns. Hand ordered Arbuckle and
McKee to shorten the pay and daily allowance of their men, saying
they feasted too high. When this order was put into execution
almost every man in the fort shouldered his gun and put on his
knapsack, resolving to go home. But Col. McDowell told Hand
of the impolicy of such measure and obtained permission to address
the men, who on being promised their former pay and allowance,
returned to duty. He himself took no part in the mutiny. Because
of the murder of Cornstalk, the Shawnees, in the spring of 1778,
VIRGINIA MILITIA IN THE REVOLUTION 85
mustered all their strength and besieged Point Pleasant several days.
They killed Paddy Sherman and wounded Lt. Gilmer. Finding
they could not take the fort they killed all the stock of the garrison
and then started for the Greenbrier settlements. We knew of this
from the Grenadier Squaw, said to be a sister of Cornstalk. She
had taken shelter in the fort soon after its erection, and continued
with us. When her own stock was killed she went out with spirits
and became intoxicated, but overheard the Indians and told the
officers of their plans. Capt. McKee then proposed that if any
two men would go out and warn the Greenbrier people, he would
so extend their furloughs as to be equivalent to a discharge, which
itself he could not grant. John Inchminger and John Logan
accepted and started, but returned the same evening. Philip Ham
mond and myself then agreed to go, but I gave way to my older brother,
John, whom Hammond preferred and who was more experienced
in Indian w r arfare. They were dressed in Indian style by the
Granadier Squaw, and passed the Indians at some meadow about
12 miles from Donally s fort. They gave information and the set
tlers had been in the fort but a little while w r hen the Indians
attacked and a dreadful conflict ensued. Capt. Arbuckle was then
in Greenbrier visiting his family. He and Capt. Lewis raised a
company and forced their way into the fort. The Indians were
driven off with much loss and Greenbrier was thus saved. During
this expedition of the Indians, Gen. Clark stopped at Point Pleasant
on his way to take Vincennes. In the autumn of 1778, there was
a man in the fort named Morgan who had been a prisoner among
the Indians many )-ears. A squaw T with him was said to be his
wife. Morgan was in custody and ironed, and was to be taken to
his father who had offered a large reward for his return. But
finding himself lightly guarded, he and the squaw ran off and were
never again heard of. Suspecting he would reach the Indian towns
and tell that our time w T as nearly out, and that many of us would
soon leave, the officers discharged many, including myself. In 1779
was drafted from Amherst for a three months tour a little below
Richmond. He served under Capt. Samuel Higgenbotham, of Col.
Christian s regiment, and among his comrades were Zedekiah Shu-
maker, William Brown, and Samuel Allen. In 1780, he was out
three months under Capt. Richard Ballinger, serving at Fort Powha-
tan, below Richmond, now (1832), Fort Jefferson. Among his com-
86 VIRGINIA MILITIA IN THE REVOLUTION
rades this tour were an elder brother, Nicholas Pryor, and Richard
Tankersly.
Zedekiah Shumaker certified he served with declarant at Point
Pleasant and below Richmond.
NOTE: In a memorial of James Huston, who moved from the Cow-
pasture River to Kentucky, in 1783, and died there in 1818, aged 92, it is
stated that he was out on a scout the day before the attack on Donally s
Fort, and by means of his dog detected the approach of the Indians, and
was thus enabled to warn the settlement. Houston s wife was Nancy
McCreery, and he settled in Fayette County.
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It's easy. Just take your mouse, highlight the first 10 words in your message, right click and click COPY, then go up to your search box and paste it to it. There will be a lot of information come up on that site. Don't do like I first did though and paste it to your address bar, stick to the search bar. Sometimes I have to learn the hard way.
Ken
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I was in the same situation, I wanted to have another member of the immediate family take the Y-DNA test but I was the only family member on Ancestry.Com. ON Ancestsry.Com you can handle everything your self. Just go to the DNA box at the toolbar on top of your ancestry.Com page. It will be between Search and Collaborat. Click on DNA and where it says order test, you can order a Y-Chromosome DNA test, They will send you the test, you give it to your brother to take and then either one of you can send it back. Just make sure when you request the test you let them know it's for your brother and use your address they will put everything on your account and send you the results via the web site. They will also give you a code that you can give to your brother so he can see the results for himself. I just downloaded a copy of everything and mailed it to my brother. Because he lives in Mississippi Ancestry.Com put everything in my name but mailed the test directly to him a!
nd his wife mailed it back. It's really easy.
Ken
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Better information:
the Virginia counties and their boundaries were continually changing. In 1745 Augusta County encompassed almost all the land west of the Blue Ridge, down to the North Carolina / Tennessee line and west to the Mississippi River. The early records are dispersed among these counties and other colonial and United States jurisdictions. Pocahontas James' records can be found in Augusta, Botetourt, Greenbrier, Bath and Randolph Counties before Pocahontas County.
Chalkley, Lyman. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia. Extracted from the Original Records of Augusta County 1745-1800. Three volumes. Genealogy Publishing Co (Baltimore), 1989. Originally published in 1912.
Shuck, Larry. Greenbrier County, West Virginia Records, Vol. 1 - Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia early survey records, 1780-1799, Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia early court minutes, 1780-1801, 1811, 1817-1819, Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia court record books, 1828-1835, district court records, Botetourt, Greenbrier, Kanawha, and Montgomery counties, 1792-1797, district court deeds, Sweet Springs Virginia court house, 1789-1808, Iberian Pub. Co. (Athens, Georgia), 1988
Sparacio, Ruth. Augusta County, Virginia land tax books, 1782-1788 , 1788-1790. Compiled and edited by Ruth and Sam Sparacio, 1987 and 1997
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the Virginia counties and their boundaries were continually changing. In 1745 Augusta County encompassed almost all the land west of the Blue Ridge, down to the North Carolina / Tennessee line and west to the Mississippi River. The early records are dispersed among these counties and other colonial and United States jurisdictions. Pocahontas James' records can be found in Augusta, Botetourt, Greenbrier, Bath and Randolph Counties before Pocahontas County.
Chalkley, Lyman. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia. Extracted from the Original Records of Augusta County 1745-1800. Three volumes. Genealogy Publishing Co (Baltimore), 1989. Originally published in 1912.
Shuck, Larry. Greenbrier County, West Virginia Records, Vol. 1 - Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia early survey records, 1780-1799, Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia early court minutes, 1780-1801, 1811, 1817-1819, Greenbrier Co. (West) Virginia court record books, 1828-1835, district court records, Botetourt, Greenbrier, Kanawha, and Montgomery counties, 1792-1797, district court deeds, Sweet Springs Virginia court house, 1789-1808, Iberian Pub. Co. (Athens, Georgia), 1988
Sparacio, Ruth. Augusta County, Virginia land tax books, 1782-1788 , 1788-1790. Compiled and edited by Ruth and Sam Sparacio, 1987 and 1997
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Lyman Chalkley's Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia,[1] the definitive compilation of Augusta County records to 1800
Possible source? Have no idea where to get hold of it.
Amy
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I think its time for me to take a time out from this conversation until I get my DNA results back, which will hopefully within a month? I finally sent it in at the beginning of this week.
Thanks for all of the the information, I have learned so much from this conversation and I would like to spend some time reading up on the information you sent regarding the raids.
I will let you know what my DNA turns up. I would like to see if my brother will take a test too since my understanding is that is the best way to get the Y markers (I hope I have that right). He is not on ancestry.com so I need to find out where to purchase a test for him.
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