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I am researching the Chrisman family from Wayne Co. Ky. Anyone out there
researching Chrisman's in Wayne Co.?
I would like to hear from anyone researching any Chrisman lines to trade
info.
Joe Chrisman
Winfield, Ks.
bigjoec(a)horizon.hit.net
The following was forwarded on one of my other lists. Looks like it is
worth passing on.
Please don't ask me questions about it, as what you see below is all I
know. It appears to have been forwarded a couple of times already, and I
am unable to determine who originated this information.
Helen Crisman
hcrisman(a)juno.com
__________________________________
<<
Good Morning everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and spent the
day
at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on some
information to everyone.
Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male between
the
age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The information
found on the card was provided by the individual himself. The
registration
cards vary in information depending on the individual draft board. But
by
and large the cards include: The full name of the person (this means
first,
full middle name, any additional middle names and last name); the
current
address of the man; his age; his birthdate (some include his place of
birth); whether he is a US citizen or a naturalized citizen (some ask if
his
father was a naturalized citizen and his father's race); his race; his
occupation; where he is employed (name of employer); address or location
of
employment; name and address of his next of kin; some cards ask if the
man
is married or single and how many people he supports. The card is signed
by
the draftee. On the back of the card his physical description is noted:
Height is broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards give
the
actual height in feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although
some
cards list actual weight along with the build; color of eyes and hair;
any
deformities or injuries are listed (such as one arm missing, blind in
one
eye, etc); the name and address of the draft board and the date.
When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA
branch
the LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are hundreds
and
hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and filmed them -
in
state order. However, within each state the cards were filed by draft
board,
not by county or by draftee. This makes the searching of the microfilm
difficult to say the least.
The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box
after it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and
thousands of cards into - state and then COUNTY order and then in
alphabetical order by surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends
deserve
all the kudos we can give them for this monstrous task.
So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm
you
can order copies of the original cards from NARA. if you know the county
your ancestor lived in between 1917-1918.
And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data
bases, however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname
WHITE
found in McIntosh Co, OK and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so don't
depend on that site. I was told yesterday that some reps from Ancestry
had visited the archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about filming the
cards, took one look at the hundreds and hundreds of boxes and simply
left.
For copies: Send a letter requesting copy(s) to:
NARA
Southeast Region
1557 St. Joseph Ave
East Point, GA 30344
In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft
application
Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the state and the
county. If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a given surname, ask
them the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them to let you know the
copying cost. In your letter be sure and say you want a copy of the
FRONT
and BACK of the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the return of you
copies.
The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents
for
the front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the difference
is
to be given to the Friends of the Archives, because after all they did
all
this wonderful hard work for you <VBG>
And feel free to pass this on to any of the lists you are on. >>
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Hi to all,
There are more than just a few of the us in the Cressman Association
who use the spelling of Crisman, Crissman, and Chrisman. Cressman
is just the more prevalent translation of the original German name of Cr��mann.
One doesn't want to overlook Kressman, Crossman, and the like when reseaching
either!
I have a message board and website on the Crisman name that gives a little background
information and a family chart. Anyone interested may check it out at:
http://www2.netcom.com/~martiekr/genealogy.html
Perhaps someone on the list can help with some names I have been searching for.
Very happy to see this and the related lists.
Mary Crisman
On 08/12/99 21:22:29 you wrote:
>
>Hello Everyone:
>
>The following was received from the Cressman Famiy Assn. For those not
>familiar with this group, they are all related descendants of the
>Crossmann (with umlaut) family of Pfungstadt, Germany. They have done a
>vast amount of research on their line. A few of their descendants are
>now using the CRISMAN, CRISSMAN, and I believe even the CHRISMAN
>spelling.
>
>If anyone is interested in that family, please feel free to send your
>questions to one of the surname lists, as we have some of their
>descendants out there "lurking" and "listening".
>
>Thanks for the input, Richard.
>
>Helen Crisman
>List-Owner
>----------------------------------------------------------
>
>--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
>From: RWS232(a)aol.com
>To: hcrisman(a)juno.com
>Subject: Re: CHRISMAN / CHRISTMAN / CRISMAN Surname Lists
>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:47:42 EDT
>Message-ID: <515e363.24e292ae(a)aol.com>
>
>Perhaps you know of or might be interested in the Cressman Family
>Association
>that holds an annual family reunion in the fall of each year. This year
>it is
>being held in Trappe, Pa.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Richard W. Schrack
Hello Everyone:
The following was received from the Cressman Famiy Assn. For those not
familiar with this group, they are all related descendants of the
Crossmann (with umlaut) family of Pfungstadt, Germany. They have done a
vast amount of research on their line. A few of their descendants are
now using the CRISMAN, CRISSMAN, and I believe even the CHRISMAN
spelling.
If anyone is interested in that family, please feel free to send your
questions to one of the surname lists, as we have some of their
descendants out there "lurking" and "listening".
Thanks for the input, Richard.
Helen Crisman
List-Owner
- --------------------------------------------------------
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: RWS232(a)aol.com
To: hcrisman(a)juno.com
Subject: Re: CHRISMAN / CHRISTMAN / CRISMAN Surname Lists
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:47:42 EDT
Message-ID: <515e363.24e292ae(a)aol.com>
Perhaps you know of or might be interested in the Cressman Family
Association
that holds an annual family reunion in the fall of each year. This year
it is
being held in Trappe, Pa.
Sincerely,
Richard W. Schrack
--------- End forwarded message ----------
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Hi, Everyone:
Another message from your friendly List-Owner. I promise this is the
last time I will send the same message to all three lists at the same
time. Unfortunately, we still have a few folks who are subscribed to
only one or two of the lists.
If you are not subscribed to all three lists, you will be missing out on
some of the fun. So - check the bottom of your message and see which
list you are on, and subscribe "soonest" to the ones you are missing.
A few ground rules:
We're all familiar with the usual rules of "Netiquette", which will apply
here as well. It is better if we remember to use CAPS for surnames, as
they are easier to spot.
When sending in a post, please send it to only one list. You may choose
your favorite spelling. It won't matter which list, as we'll all see it
anyway - if we're subscribed to all three lists.
Remember that the most effective queries include not only names, but
dates and locations, as best they are known. If you're looking for John
Chrisman, it helps to include his wife's name, if known, or the names of
the children, as there were probably a zillion or so John Chrismans
around.
Replies to posts may be sent directly to the individual seeking the
information. However, it may be more beneficial to everyone if replies
are sent via the lists. You might hold the ONE clue that makes a
connection for someone else who is just lurking out there.
To get us started, I'd like to ask those who have previously posted
messages to the list to please post them again. You have a much wider
readership now, so may get more help than you did before.
I'd also like to ask everyone to post some basic information about your
own "C" (or "K") line (how's that for dodging spelling??). You don't
need to include your entire genealogy, but do let us know where you are
in your research.
Example:
Ours is the Elisha Crisman line. He lived in Chester Co., PA from about
1750-1830. Mary _____ , his wife at the time of his death, may have been
a second wife. If so, who was the mother of his children? Who were his
parents? Major stone walls here.
One son, Thomas (ca 1793-1834) went to WV, where he died; his descendants
went on to OH and ultimately IA, MO, CO, CA and various other points
west. Elisha's other children stayed in Chester Co.
Elisha's eldest son, James (ca. 1778-1871), had several children. Three
of James' sons left Chester Co - William went to Mifflin Co. PA; and
James and Elisha to AL and GA. Some of their descendants went on to TX.
James' daughter, Hannah, married a Baum. This couple went to Utah with
Brigham Young.
Some of the descendants of these families now use the CRISSMAN or
CHRISMAN spelling.
-----------
There's more, of course, but this is already a long message - and there
are others on the lists who will be wanting to talk about some of these
same families.
So - consider this the firing of the starter's gun. Let's see those
posts, and begin finding those elusive ancestors and meeting new
cousins!!
Helen Crisman
hcrisman(a)juno.com
List-Owner
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Mark,
I think you've added not just one, but four more variations on the
spelling of our name. Your version reminds me of a little story you
might enjoy.
While on a trip to Germany a few years ago, we stayed overnight in
Saarbrucken. I've long since learned to automatically spell out my name
if it is to be written correctly - which is what I started to do when we
checked into the hotel. The desk clerk interrupted me, saying: "I know
how to spell that name!", and proceeded to write KRISSMANN.
Well, at least it proves one thing - the name is well known in Germany,
regardless of how it is spelled!
Helen Crisman
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:49:44 -0400 milez <milez(a)concentric.net> writes:
>Actually, the spelling of my last name may represent a sixth
>variation!
>
>KRISMAN
>
>Our family is of German origin. (I have also seen it spelt KRISMANN,
>KRISSMAN, and even KRISCHMAN.)
>
>I know of at least one other Germanic "Krisman" family, that had their
>name Anglicized to "Chrisman" by North American immigration. Has
>anyone
>else's family experienced this?
>
>Best Regards,
>Miles Krisman
>
>
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Actually, the spelling of my last name may represent a sixth variation!
KRISMAN
Our family is of German origin. (I have also seen it spelt KRISMANN,
KRISSMAN, and even KRISCHMAN.)
I know of at least one other Germanic "Krisman" family, that had their
name Anglicized to "Chrisman" by North American immigration. Has anyone
else's family experienced this?
Best Regards,
Miles Krisman
Hi, Everyone:
I want to introduce myself as the new "list-owner" for the following
three lists:
CHRISMAN-L CHRISTMAN-L CRISMAN-L
I'm new at this "list management" business, so please bear with me until
I learn all this technical stuff. Meanwhile, there are a few other
things that we need to do to get the ball rolling.
We all know from experience that the variant spellings of the name run
all through our individual lines, and that we all really do need to be
talking to each other in order to get the most benefit. Thus it would be
nice if we could find a way to consolidate these three lists into one
master list. I have tried to find out more about this from Rootsweb, and
will continue to pursue it.
Meanwhile, it appears that we will have to deal with three lists. So, I
would like to suggest that all of you subscribe to all three lists, so as
not to miss out on anything just because of an alpha character or two.
As long as everyone is on board and following the same procedures, we
shouldn't have any spam problems.
If everyone is subscribed to all three lists, all of us will all see all
the messages. Anyone wishing to respond to a message can "reply" to a
message on any one list. Or, anyone may initiate a message to the one
list of their favorite spelling. If we are all subscribed to all the
lists, it won't matter which list your message goes to. It will not be
necessary to send three messages.
I recently wrote to some of you and asked you to join all three lists.
So many of you did that we've nearly doubled the number of subscribers!
This time around, you will be getting three copies of this message. This
allows me to reach all the people who were already subscribed to only
one of the lists, and also confirms to you that you are receiving
messages on all three lists.
As soon as everyone is on all the lists, I'll be sending out another
message to help get us started with the good stuff!
Subscription procedure for all lists is the same:
Send a message to
CHRISMAN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
(or CHRISTMAN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
or CRISMAN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com)
that contains (in the body of the message) the command
subscribe
and no additional text.
You will receive a welcome message confirming that you are on the list.
>From then on, any messages will come in on your e-mail automatically.
The welcome message will also explain other mail list options, including
"digest mode" and how to unsubscribe.
Helen Crisman
hcrisman(a)juno.com
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