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Hi Berlene,
Lake Geneva Wisconsin,but brn and raised in the Mountians of Harlan Co Ky
near the Cumberland Gap.
Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
Hi Roy,
Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel Choate
and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I had.
I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane
Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried to
follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book "Choates
of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they
married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's sister
Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't traced
these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on
toward the West.
Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to
Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship
Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi
Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee
but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information as
of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have connections
with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
Talk to you later,
BTW: Where do you live?
Berlene
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
Berlene,
Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my lines
from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
Street,Davidson.
Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!,
Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out
TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel &
Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
Roy.
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Roy here again,
Somewhere buried in my notes I have a message that stated Ellender &
Nicholas Kelly left KY for TN.
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy" <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> Hey Berlene,
> Thanks for the info,and will run with it. Have you any id where in Ky they
> were?. I'am gonna put the names out there,and hope they land somewhere.
>
> Hey how is the weather down your way. I used to live close to the OK
> border
> near the Durant OK area.
> Stayed a few years in Gainesville TX, and several in Sherman TX,had to
> leave when my Drywall work went to pot.
>
> Keep in touch.
>
> Roy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
> To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
>
>
> Hi Roy,
>
> Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel
> Choate
> and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I
> had.
>
> I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane
> Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried
> to
> follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book
> "Choates
> of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they
> married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's
> sister
> Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't
> traced
> these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on
> toward the West.
>
> Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to
> Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship
> Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
>
> I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi
> Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee
> but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information
> as
> of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have
> connections
> with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
>
> Talk to you later,
>
> BTW: Where do you live?
>
> Berlene
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
> Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
>
>
> Berlene,
> Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my
> lines
> from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
> Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
>
> My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
> Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
> Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
> Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
>
> Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
> Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
> Street,Davidson.
>
> Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!,
> Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out
> TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
>
> Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel
> &
> Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
>
> Roy.
>
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Berlene,
Could this Christopher be in the same Choate line who was in
Sullvan/Washington Co TN late 1700's,and with a possible Gdaughter Prudence
Choate Dykes. Did hear that a Richard from the same line went into KY. Don't
quote me,but I believe that Prudence father was also a Richard Choate. Also
was told that Ellender was the younger sister to Prudence Dykes who was in
the same area Warren/Marion Co TN,at the same time as my Ellender.
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy" <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> Hey Berlene,
> Thanks for the info,and will run with it. Have you any id where in Ky they
> were?. I'am gonna put the names out there,and hope they land somewhere.
>
> Hey how is the weather down your way. I used to live close to the OK
> border
> near the Durant OK area.
> Stayed a few years in Gainesville TX, and several in Sherman TX,had to
> leave when my Drywall work went to pot.
>
> Keep in touch.
>
> Roy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
> To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
>
>
> Hi Roy,
>
> Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel
> Choate
> and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I
> had.
>
> I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane
> Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried
> to
> follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book
> "Choates
> of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they
> married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's
> sister
> Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't
> traced
> these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on
> toward the West.
>
> Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to
> Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship
> Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
>
> I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi
> Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee
> but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information
> as
> of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have
> connections
> with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
>
> Talk to you later,
>
> BTW: Where do you live?
>
> Berlene
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
> Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
>
>
> Berlene,
> Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my
> lines
> from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
> Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
>
> My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
> Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
> Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
> Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
>
> Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
> Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
> Street,Davidson.
>
> Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!,
> Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out
> TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
>
> Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel
> &
> Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
>
> Roy.
>
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Roy,
The Ann Ardunel, Maryland Christopher Choate is supposed to be the Patriarch of all the "southern" Choates. He himself didn't leave Maryland.
I have a Prudence Dora "Prudy" Choate d/o of Thomas Kyle Choate and Elizabeth Renfro. Prudy married Stokely Choate on December 30, 1828 in Lawrence County, Tennessee (found on Ancestry.com in Tennessee Marriages). Prudy's parents were also married in Lawrence County, Tennessee.
Now this is where I get discombobulated....I don't know who Stokely connects to. I have looked at the trees on-line but it appears that there is a lot of misinformation. I do know that Stokley and Prudy were supposed to be cousins but don't know if 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
Maybe somebody on the Choate list can tell us who belongs to who and what source they have to "proof" the relationship.
Berlene
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:47 PM
Berlene,
Could this Christopher be in the same Choate line who was in
Sullvan/Washington Co TN late 1700's,and with a possible Gdaughter Prudence
Choate Dykes. Did hear that a Richard from the same line went into KY. Don't
quote me,but I believe that Prudence father was also a Richard Choate. Also
was told that Ellender was the younger sister to Prudence Dykes who was in
the same area Warren/Marion Co TN,at the same time as my Ellender.
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy" <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> Hey Berlene,
> Thanks for the info,and will run with it. Have you any id where in Ky they
> were?. I'am gonna put the names out there,and hope they land somewhere.
>
> Hey how is the weather down your way. I used to live close to the OK
> border
> near the Durant OK area.
> Stayed a few years in Gainesville TX, and several in Sherman TX,had to
> leave when my Drywall work went to pot.
>
> Keep in touch.
>
> Roy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
> To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
>
>
> Hi Roy,
>
> Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel
> Choate
> and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I
> had.
>
> I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane
> Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried
> to
> follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book
> "Choates
> of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they
> married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's
> sister
> Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't
> traced
> these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on
> toward the West.
>
> Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to
> Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship
> Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
>
> I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi
> Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee
> but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information
> as
> of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have
> connections
> with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
>
> Talk to you later,
>
> BTW: Where do you live?
>
> Berlene
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
> Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
> To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
>
>
> Berlene,
> Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my
> lines
> from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
> Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
>
> My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
> Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
> Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
> Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
>
> Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
> Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
> Street,Davidson.
>
> Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!,
> Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out
> TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
>
> Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel
> &
> Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
>
> Roy.
>
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Hey Berlene,
Thanks for the info,and will run with it. Have you any id where in Ky they
were?. I'am gonna put the names out there,and hope they land somewhere.
Hey how is the weather down your way. I used to live close to the OK border
near the Durant OK area.
Stayed a few years in Gainesville TX, and several in Sherman TX,had to
leave when my Drywall work went to pot.
Keep in touch.
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
To: <choate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
Hi Roy,
Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel Choate
and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I had.
I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane
Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried to
follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book "Choates
of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they
married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's sister
Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't traced
these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on
toward the West.
Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to
Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship
Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi
Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee
but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information as
of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have connections
with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
Talk to you later,
BTW: Where do you live?
Berlene
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
Berlene,
Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my lines
from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
Street,Davidson.
Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!,
Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out
TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel &
Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
Roy.
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Hi Roy,
Still plugging away I see. I have been working on Iredell and Emanuel Choate and my Kelly/Kelley lines lately and ran into something that I forgot I had.
I do have an Ellender Choate b. abt. 1794 d/o Richard Choate and Ann Jane Lowe who married Nicholas Kelly (pretty close to Riley). I haven't tried to follow this family but according to Ms. Irene Choate Williams' book "Choates of the South", Nicholas and Ellender moved down into Kentucky after they married. That is all she had about Ellender and Nicholas. Ellender's sister Sarah m. William Walker who also moved into Kentucky. Since I haven't traced these two families, I don't know if they stayed in Kentucky or moved on toward the West.
Richard was born, raised and died in Maryland but does connect back to Christopher Choate of Ann Arundel County, Maryland of the "Good Ship Cecilius" through his Christopher's son Edward Choate and Eleanor Savage.
I don't know who Nicholas Kelly belongs to but just found out that my Levi Kelly m. Rebecca Ann Ross and she is supposed to be a full-blood Cherokee but haven't received a response to how the person knows this information as of yet but will let you know. If Rebecca is a Ross, she may have connections with John Ross and the Silas Choate family.
Talk to you later,
BTW: Where do you live?
Berlene
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
Subject: [CHOATE] Choate & kin
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:15 AM
Berlene,
Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my lines from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
Street,Davidson.
Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!, Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel & Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
Roy.
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Berlene,
Noticed the name Ellis. I also have the name connected somewhere in my lines from Marion,Warren,Grundy,
Coffee,Sequatchie Co's of Tn,and possible Dekalb,Etowah Co AL.
My direct line, Bast,Bost,Bond,Chadwick,Choate,Coffelt,
Goodhart,Hodgins,Hodgens,Higins,Hugins?,Keel/Keele,Moreland,Langford,Lankford,
Richmond,Seitz,Sitz,Sitze,Sights,Sides,Sites,Vaughan,
Vaughn,Willson,Wilson.
Some connected families, Poe,Tate,King,Evans,McCorkle,
Shadrick,Nunly,Thompson,Dykes,Meeks,Lawson,Hatfield,
Street,Davidson.
Other names I have heard mentioned in the lines !SOMEWHERE!, Sanders,Brown,Ellis,Morton,Jones,Gross,and more thru out TN,AL,LA,TX,possible AR,MO,and OK.
Hey even saw somewhere my GGGfather named Rev William Keele was named Keel & Kell,also GGGfather Thomas Vaughn was called Vann.
Roy.
Dodie,
Is your brothers name Charles? What age group is your dad in? And where are
you located? I don't mean to be so personal, but I had a cousin who had a
daughter named Dorothy and a son named Charles and I believe he was in the
service in CA at the time. He came back to TN and had two other children and named
them the same names. And the girl here was called Dottie/Dodie. I know this
sounds strange, but when I asked him why he did that, he told me that he
loved his first two children so much, he had 2 more named the the same and that
made him feel closer to the ones he no longer saw..
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Hi all,
I have had some trouble with this puter,and just now realized that when I
sent a message or a reply that was going thru,but my puter was telling me
that they wasn't sent.
Sorry if anyone received several messages with the same subject.
I believe most went to Berlene?.
Roy.
---- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Wille" <aljo(a)cableone.net>
To: <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [CHOATE] appology
>I apologize for the duplicate messages of the past few days. The first one
>was sent out Thursday morning and never did appear to be sent since I
>didn't get a copy back. That evening I sent it again with same results.
>All my other mail was working just fine so I tried again..........long
>story short they apparently got hung up in a virus or spam trap somewhere
>because after talking to my server they all appeared at once along with
>about 50 other pieces of mail. I maintain a list for another name and have
>never had this happen before. Once again, sorry for any inconvenience.
> Judy Wille
>
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Roy,
Your messages came through rapidly but I would have to do a refresh to actually find them or they would come through as already having been read...spooky...maybe it has something to do with the "Conflicker" virus?
BTW, I said that James Sanders and Emanuel Choate were at "Point Pleasant"....NO, WRONG AGAIN....they were involved with the "PILOT POINT" battle...Sorry, I have been doing so much reading about the Choate/Sanders/Cherokee/Choctaw/Wyandot historys all the names and time periods are beginning to fuse together :-))
I sure have been having a lot of "Senior Moments" lately. Just call me Dingbat.
Berlene
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com> wrote:
From: Roy <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] appology
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:06 PM
Hi all,
I have had some trouble with this puter,and just now realized that when I
sent a message or a reply that was going thru,but my puter was telling me
that they wasn't sent.
Sorry if anyone received several messages with the same subject.
I believe most went to Berlene?.
Roy.
---- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Wille" <aljo(a)cableone.net>
To: <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [CHOATE] appology
>I apologize for the duplicate messages of the past few days. The first one
>was sent out Thursday morning and never did appear to be sent since I
>didn't get a copy back. That evening I sent it again with same results.
>All my other mail was working just fine so I tried again..........long
>story short they apparently got hung up in a virus or spam trap somewhere
>because after talking to my server they all appeared at once along with
>about 50 other pieces of mail. I maintain a list for another name and have
>never had this happen before. Once again, sorry for any inconvenience.
> Judy Wille
>
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> CHOATE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes
> in the subject and the body of the message
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I apologize for the duplicate messages of the past few days. The first one was sent out Thursday morning and never did appear to be sent since I didn't get a copy back. That evening I sent it again with same results. All my other mail was working just fine so I tried again..........long story short they apparently got hung up in a virus or spam trap somewhere because after talking to my server they all appeared at once along with about 50 other pieces of mail. I maintain a list for another name and have never had this happen before. Once again, sorry for any inconvenience.
Judy Wille
So did I...but at different times...I was wondering the same thing myself.
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Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Choate History handed down by Pleasant Alonzo Choate
To: choate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 9:17 PM
I got 5 copies of this, why?
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The following is a copy of the Choate History given to me by my grandfather Pleasant Alonzo (Lon) Choate son of Jeff Choate and Mary Francis Smith.
I have been able to find most of the information already recorded on Rootsweb but I still can't connect my greatgrandfather to any of it. Can anyone help ?
Does anyone recognize any of this ?
THE NAME AND FAMILY OF CHOATE
The names of CHOATE and CHUTE are believed to have been of common origin and derived from the residence of their first bearers at a place called Chute in Wiltshire, England. Certain historians, however, state that the name of Choate was of Dutch origin and was taken by its first bearers from their residence at a place of that name in the Netherlands. According to this theory the name was originally found in the form of Van Choate. Since definite proof cannot be obtained for either of these assertions, it is more generally assumed that the first theory is correct and that Choate is a corrupted form of Chute.
These names are found in ancient British and early American records in the various spellings of Choat, Chote, Chott, Chotte, Chewt, Chewte, Chutt, Chutte, Choote, Choot, Chut, Chute, Choate, and numerous others, of which the last two forms mentioned are those most generally accepted in America today.
Families bearing these names were to be found at early dates in the English Counties of Somerset, Essex, Kent, Suffolk, Norfolk, Hants, Surrey, and London. They were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yeomanry of Great Britain.
One of the earliest records of the Chute family of England is that of one Alexander Chewte or Chute of Somersetshire about the year 1268, who was the father of a son named John and probably of another named Richard. John married Jane Broomfield and was the father by her of Edward, who was the father by his wife Christiana Chiddock of Phillip, James, and Anthony, of whom the first married a daughter of Sir John Brittan and had issue by her of George and Jane. George became the father by his wife, a Miss Faril whom he married about 1344, of a son Ambrose, who married Amabel Chittester and was the father of Edward and Christian, of whom the first was married about 1379 to Dionis Sturton, by whom he had issue of Henry, William, and Anthony.
Of these, it is known that William died without issue; that Anthony married a daughter of Sir John Clifton and became the father of Christopher and Robert, of whom the first made his home in Hertfordshire and probably left issue there; and that Henry (eldest son of Edward and Dionis) married a Miss Hasherfield and was the father by her of a son named Robert. The latter became the father by his wife, Alice Bartley, of Charles, who was the father by his wife (a Miss Chang) of a son named Edmond, who was the father of Robert, who married Jane Lucas and was the father of Oliver, Charles, and William, of whom Charles married a Miss Crips and was the father of Anthony and Phillip.
Of these last two brothers, Phillip married a Miss Coolpepper or Culpepper and had issue of George, Edward, and Anthony, of whom the first is known to have settled in County Kent. Anthony (the elder brother of Phillip) married a Miss Gee and had issue of Anthony, William, Christopher, and Lionel, of whom the last married a Miss Greene and had issue of Lionel, George, Charles, and Judith, of whom the first emigrated to America about 1635 and will be mentioned again later.
Of the name of Choate in England only a few records have been found and these are fragmentary. Among them, however, are those of a Choate who was a church warden in Essex County about 1500; those of John Choate of County Suffolk about the middle of the sixteenth century, who is thought to have had a daughter named Elizabeth in 1589; those of John Choat of Essex County in the early seventeenth century, who was the father by his wife Susanna in the year 1621 of a son named John, and in 1625 of a son named Edmund; those of Richard Choat, who was the father in Essex County in the early seventeenth century of Annie and Henry; those of Joseph and John (son of Edward) Choat of County Essex in 1632; those of the brothers Joseph and Matthew Choat of County Essex in 1635 ; and those of Robert Choate of County Essex about the same time, who was the father by his wife Sarah John, Elizabeth, and Marie, of whom the first was baptized in 1624 and is believed by some historians to have been the emigrant John Choate who came to America in 1643.
While it is not entirely clear in every case from which of the numerous lines of the family in Great Britain the first emigrants of the name to America traced their descent, it appears from old records that the Choates and Chutes were among the earliest settlers in colonial America.
The before-mentioned emigrant Lionel Chute, who came from England to America in 1635, or shortly thereafter, settled at Ipswich, Mass. According to records, he was the ancestor of most of the Chutes who are living in America today. By his wife, Rose Baker, he had a son named James, who was born in England and came with his parents to America. This James married a Miss Epes and became the father by her of an only son, named James, who removed to Rowley and was married in 1673 to Mary Wood. By her he was the father of Elizabeth, Ann, Lionel, James, Thomas, Mary, Martha, Ruth, and Hannah.
The emigrant John Choate, who came from England to America about l643 at the age of nineteen, settled at Ipswich, Mass., and is believed to have been the ancestor of the majority of the Choates of America. By his wife Anne or Ann he was the father of John, Margaret, Samuel, Mary, Thomas, Sarah, Joseph, and Benjamin.
John eldest son of the emigrant John Choate, married four times. By his first wife, Elizabeth Graves, whom he married in 1684, he was the father of John, Anne, and Sarah; by his second wife, the widow Elizabeth Giddings, whom he married in 1690, he had further issue of Robert, Samuel, Ebenezer, Nehemiah, , and Humphrey. By his third wife, the widow Sarah Perkins, whom he married in 1723, and his fourth wife, the widow Prudence (nee Woodward) Marshall, whom he married in 1728, he had no further children.
Samuel, second son of the emigrant John, was married in 1688 to Mary Williams, by whom he had issue of Mary (died young), Samuel, Sarah, Mary, Stephen, William, Elizabeth, Margaret, and John.
Thomas third son of the emigrant John, was married in 1690 to Mary Varney, by whom he was the father of Anne, Thomas, Mary, John, Abigail, Francis, Rachel, Ebenezer, and Sarah. There were no children by his second wife, the widow Mary Calef, whom he married in l734, nor by his third wife the widow Hannah Burnham, whom he married in 1743.
Joseph, fourth son of the emigrant John, had issue by his wife Rebecca (surname unknown) of Rebecca, Susanna, and Daniel.
Benjamin fifth and youngest son of the emigrant John, married Abigail Burnham in 1707. He was the father by her at Kingston, N.H., where he made his home, of Jonathan, Abigail (died in infancy), another Abigail, Benjamin (died in infancy), another Benjamin, Lucy, Ruhamah, Jeremiah, Abigail, and Joseph.
Among the others of the names of Chute and Choate who were to be found at early dates in America, were Thomas Chute, who came from London, England, to Portland, Me., in the early eighteenth century and was the father by his wife Mary Abagail and others; one Humphrey Choate (ancestry uncertain), who is held by some family historians to have been the son of a deserter from a British man of war and to have resided at Essex, Mass. in the early seventeenth century, and who was the father there of Thomas and Humphrey both of whom left numerous issue : and Samuel Choate (ancestry unknown) of Charlestown, Mass., before 1759, who was married in that year to Susanna Pierce, by whom he was the father of Samuel (died young), James, Susanna (died young), another Samuel, Rebecca, another Susanna, Polly, Nancy, and Mille.
The descendants of these and other branches of the family in America have scattered into all parts of the country and have aided as much in the advancement of American civilization as their forbears did in its founding and establishment on this continent. They have been characterized in general by tenacity of purpose, energy, and a humanitarian interest in their fellow men which has led some of the family into the fields of medicine, literature, and statecraft.
Among those of the names of Chute and Choate who fought in the War of the Revolution were Captain Daniel and Privates David, James, Josiah or Joseph, and Thomas Chute, of Massachusetts; Captains Daniel and Thomas. Lieutenants John, Samuel, and Joseph. Ensign Humphrey, Sergeants William, Thomas, Isaac, and Jeremiah, Corporal Nehemiah, and Privates Aaron, Abram, David, Dudley, Eben or Ebenezer, Elnathan, Ephraim, Francis, Jabez, James, Jonathan, Josiah, Robert, Simeon, and Solomon Choate, of Massachusetts; and numerous others from the other New England, Middle, and Southern States.
John, Anthony, Henry, Edward, Robert, Charles, distinguished themselves in America in more recent times are the following:
Rufus Choate (1799-1859), of Massachusetts, jurist.
Joseph Hodges Choate (1832~1917), of Massachusetts, lawyer and diplomat.
Robert Burnett Choate (b. 1898), of Massachusetts, editor.
Charles Lionel Chute (b. 1882), of Massachusetts, social worker.
Arthur Lambert Chute (1869-1934), American surgeon.
One of the most ancient and most frequently used of the coats of arms of the ancient English family of Chute,
Judy Wille
The following is a copy of the Choate History given to me by my grandfather Pleasant Alonzo (Lon) Choate son of Jeff Choate and Mary Francis Smith.
I have been able to find most of the information already recorded on Rootsweb but I still can't connect my greatgrandfather to any of it. Can anyone help ?
Does anyone recognize any of this ?
THE NAME AND FAMILY OF CHOATE
The names of CHOATE and CHUTE are believed to have been of common origin and derived from the residence of their first bearers at a place called Chute in Wiltshire, England. Certain historians, however, state that the name of Choate was of Dutch origin and was taken by its first bearers from their residence at a place of that name in the Netherlands. According to this theory the name was originally found in the form of Van Choate. Since definite proof cannot be obtained for either of these assertions, it is more generally assumed that the first theory is correct and that Choate is a corrupted form of Chute.
These names are found in ancient British and early American records in the various spellings of Choat, Chote, Chott, Chotte, Chewt, Chewte, Chutt, Chutte, Choote, Choot, Chut, Chute, Choate, and numerous others, of which the last two forms mentioned are those most generally accepted in America today.
Families bearing these names were to be found at early dates in the English Counties of Somerset, Essex, Kent, Suffolk, Norfolk, Hants, Surrey, and London. They were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yeomanry of Great Britain.
One of the earliest records of the Chute family of England is that of one Alexander Chewte or Chute of Somersetshire about the year 1268, who was the father of a son named John and probably of another named Richard. John married Jane Broomfield and was the father by her of Edward, who was the father by his wife Christiana Chiddock of Phillip, James, and Anthony, of whom the first married a daughter of Sir John Brittan and had issue by her of George and Jane. George became the father by his wife, a Miss Faril whom he married about 1344, of a son Ambrose, who married Amabel Chittester and was the father of Edward and Christian, of whom the first was married about 1379 to Dionis Sturton, by whom he had issue of Henry, William, and Anthony.
Of these, it is known that William died without issue; that Anthony married a daughter of Sir John Clifton and became the father of Christopher and Robert, of whom the first made his home in Hertfordshire and probably left issue there; and that Henry (eldest son of Edward and Dionis) married a Miss Hasherfield and was the father by her of a son named Robert. The latter became the father by his wife, Alice Bartley, of Charles, who was the father by his wife (a Miss Chang) of a son named Edmond, who was the father of Robert, who married Jane Lucas and was the father of Oliver, Charles, and William, of whom Charles married a Miss Crips and was the father of Anthony and Phillip.
Of these last two brothers, Phillip married a Miss Coolpepper or Culpepper and had issue of George, Edward, and Anthony, of whom the first is known to have settled in County Kent. Anthony (the elder brother of Phillip) married a Miss Gee and had issue of Anthony, William, Christopher, and Lionel, of whom the last married a Miss Greene and had issue of Lionel, George, Charles, and Judith, of whom the first emigrated to America about 1635 and will be mentioned again later.
Of the name of Choate in England only a few records have been found and these are fragmentary. Among them, however, are those of a Choate who was a church warden in Essex County about 1500; those of John Choate of County Suffolk about the middle of the sixteenth century, who is thought to have had a daughter named Elizabeth in 1589; those of John Choat of Essex County in the early seventeenth century, who was the father by his wife Susanna in the year 1621 of a son named John, and in 1625 of a son named Edmund; those of Richard Choat, who was the father in Essex County in the early seventeenth century of Annie and Henry; those of Joseph and John (son of Edward) Choat of County Essex in 1632; those of the brothers Joseph and Matthew Choat of County Essex in 1635 ; and those of Robert Choate of County Essex about the same time, who was the father by his wife Sarah John, Elizabeth, and Marie, of whom the first was baptized in 1624 and is believed by some historians to have been the emigrant John Choate who came to America in 1643.
While it is not entirely clear in every case from which of the numerous lines of the family in Great Britain the first emigrants of the name to America traced their descent, it appears from old records that the Choates and Chutes were among the earliest settlers in colonial America.
The before-mentioned emigrant Lionel Chute, who came from England to America in 1635, or shortly thereafter, settled at Ipswich, Mass. According to records, he was the ancestor of most of the Chutes who are living in America today. By his wife, Rose Baker, he had a son named James, who was born in England and came with his parents to America. This James married a Miss Epes and became the father by her of an only son, named James, who removed to Rowley and was married in 1673 to Mary Wood. By her he was the father of Elizabeth, Ann, Lionel, James, Thomas, Mary, Martha, Ruth, and Hannah.
The emigrant John Choate, who came from England to America about l643 at the age of nineteen, settled at Ipswich, Mass., and is believed to have been the ancestor of the majority of the Choates of America. By his wife Anne or Ann he was the father of John, Margaret, Samuel, Mary, Thomas, Sarah, Joseph, and Benjamin.
John eldest son of the emigrant John Choate, married four times. By his first wife, Elizabeth Graves, whom he married in 1684, he was the father of John, Anne, and Sarah; by his second wife, the widow Elizabeth Giddings, whom he married in 1690, he had further issue of Robert, Samuel, Ebenezer, Nehemiah, , and Humphrey. By his third wife, the widow Sarah Perkins, whom he married in 1723, and his fourth wife, the widow Prudence (nee Woodward) Marshall, whom he married in 1728, he had no further children.
Samuel, second son of the emigrant John, was married in 1688 to Mary Williams, by whom he had issue of Mary (died young), Samuel, Sarah, Mary, Stephen, William, Elizabeth, Margaret, and John.
Thomas third son of the emigrant John, was married in 1690 to Mary Varney, by whom he was the father of Anne, Thomas, Mary, John, Abigail, Francis, Rachel, Ebenezer, and Sarah. There were no children by his second wife, the widow Mary Calef, whom he married in l734, nor by his third wife the widow Hannah Burnham, whom he married in 1743.
Joseph, fourth son of the emigrant John, had issue by his wife Rebecca (surname unknown) of Rebecca, Susanna, and Daniel.
Benjamin fifth and youngest son of the emigrant John, married Abigail Burnham in 1707. He was the father by her at Kingston, N.H., where he made his home, of Jonathan, Abigail (died in infancy), another Abigail, Benjamin (died in infancy), another Benjamin, Lucy, Ruhamah, Jeremiah, Abigail, and Joseph.
Among the others of the names of Chute and Choate who were to be found at early dates in America, were Thomas Chute, who came from London, England, to Portland, Me., in the early eighteenth century and was the father by his wife Mary Abagail and others; one Humphrey Choate (ancestry uncertain), who is held by some family historians to have been the son of a deserter from a British man of war and to have resided at Essex, Mass. in the early seventeenth century, and who was the father there of Thomas and Humphrey both of whom left numerous issue : and Samuel Choate (ancestry unknown) of Charlestown, Mass., before 1759, who was married in that year to Susanna Pierce, by whom he was the father of Samuel (died young), James, Susanna (died young), another Samuel, Rebecca, another Susanna, Polly, Nancy, and Mille.
The descendants of these and other branches of the family in America have scattered into all parts of the country and have aided as much in the advancement of American civilization as their forbears did in its founding and establishment on this continent. They have been characterized in general by tenacity of purpose, energy, and a humanitarian interest in their fellow men which has led some of the family into the fields of medicine, literature, and statecraft.
Among those of the names of Chute and Choate who fought in the War of the Revolution were Captain Daniel and Privates David, James, Josiah or Joseph, and Thomas Chute, of Massachusetts; Captains Daniel and Thomas. Lieutenants John, Samuel, and Joseph. Ensign Humphrey, Sergeants William, Thomas, Isaac, and Jeremiah, Corporal Nehemiah, and Privates Aaron, Abram, David, Dudley, Eben or Ebenezer, Elnathan, Ephraim, Francis, Jabez, James, Jonathan, Josiah, Robert, Simeon, and Solomon Choate, of Massachusetts; and numerous others from the other New England, Middle, and Southern States.
John, Anthony, Henry, Edward, Robert, Charles, distinguished themselves in America in more recent times are the following:
Rufus Choate (1799-1859), of Massachusetts, jurist.
Joseph Hodges Choate (1832~1917), of Massachusetts, lawyer and diplomat.
Robert Burnett Choate (b. 1898), of Massachusetts, editor.
Charles Lionel Chute (b. 1882), of Massachusetts, social worker.
Arthur Lambert Chute (1869-1934), American surgeon.
One of the most ancient and most frequently used of the coats of arms of the ancient English family of Chute,
Judy Wille
The following is a copy of the Choate History given to me by my grandfather Pleasant Alonzo (Lon) Choate son of Jeff Choate and Mary Francis Smith.
I have been able to find most of the information already recorded on Rootsweb but I still can't connect my greatgrandfather to any of it. Can anyone help ?
Does anyone recognize any of this ?
THE NAME AND FAMILY OF CHOATE
The names of CHOATE and CHUTE are believed to have been of common origin and derived from the residence of their first bearers at a place called Chute in Wiltshire, England. Certain historians, however, state that the name of Choate was of Dutch origin and was taken by its first bearers from their residence at a place of that name in the Netherlands. According to this theory the name was originally found in the form of Van Choate. Since definite proof cannot be obtained for either of these assertions, it is more generally assumed that the first theory is correct and that Choate is a corrupted form of Chute.
These names are found in ancient British and early American records in the various spellings of Choat, Chote, Chott, Chotte, Chewt, Chewte, Chutt, Chutte, Choote, Choot, Chut, Chute, Choate, and numerous others, of which the last two forms mentioned are those most generally accepted in America today.
Families bearing these names were to be found at early dates in the English Counties of Somerset, Essex, Kent, Suffolk, Norfolk, Hants, Surrey, and London. They were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yeomanry of Great Britain.
One of the earliest records of the Chute family of England is that of one Alexander Chewte or Chute of Somersetshire about the year 1268, who was the father of a son named John and probably of another named Richard. John married Jane Broomfield and was the father by her of Edward, who was the father by his wife Christiana Chiddock of Phillip, James, and Anthony, of whom the first married a daughter of Sir John Brittan and had issue by her of George and Jane. George became the father by his wife, a Miss Faril whom he married about 1344, of a son Ambrose, who married Amabel Chittester and was the father of Edward and Christian, of whom the first was married about 1379 to Dionis Sturton, by whom he had issue of Henry, William, and Anthony.
Of these, it is known that William died without issue; that Anthony married a daughter of Sir John Clifton and became the father of Christopher and Robert, of whom the first made his home in Hertfordshire and probably left issue there; and that Henry (eldest son of Edward and Dionis) married a Miss Hasherfield and was the father by her of a son named Robert. The latter became the father by his wife, Alice Bartley, of Charles, who was the father by his wife (a Miss Chang) of a son named Edmond, who was the father of Robert, who married Jane Lucas and was the father of Oliver, Charles, and William, of whom Charles married a Miss Crips and was the father of Anthony and Phillip.
Of these last two brothers, Phillip married a Miss Coolpepper or Culpepper and had issue of George, Edward, and Anthony, of whom the first is known to have settled in County Kent. Anthony (the elder brother of Phillip) married a Miss Gee and had issue of Anthony, William, Christopher, and Lionel, of whom the last married a Miss Greene and had issue of Lionel, George, Charles, and Judith, of whom the first emigrated to America about 1635 and will be mentioned again later.
Of the name of Choate in England only a few records have been found and these are fragmentary. Among them, however, are those of a Choate who was a church warden in Essex County about 1500; those of John Choate of County Suffolk about the middle of the sixteenth century, who is thought to have had a daughter named Elizabeth in 1589; those of John Choat of Essex County in the early seventeenth century, who was the father by his wife Susanna in the year 1621 of a son named John, and in 1625 of a son named Edmund; those of Richard Choat, who was the father in Essex County in the early seventeenth century of Annie and Henry; those of Joseph and John (son of Edward) Choat of County Essex in 1632; those of the brothers Joseph and Matthew Choat of County Essex in 1635 ; and those of Robert Choate of County Essex about the same time, who was the father by his wife Sarah John, Elizabeth, and Marie, of whom the first was baptized in 1624 and is believed by some historians to have been the emigrant John Choate who came to America in 1643.
While it is not entirely clear in every case from which of the numerous lines of the family in Great Britain the first emigrants of the name to America traced their descent, it appears from old records that the Choates and Chutes were among the earliest settlers in colonial America.
The before-mentioned emigrant Lionel Chute, who came from England to America in 1635, or shortly thereafter, settled at Ipswich, Mass. According to records, he was the ancestor of most of the Chutes who are living in America today. By his wife, Rose Baker, he had a son named James, who was born in England and came with his parents to America. This James married a Miss Epes and became the father by her of an only son, named James, who removed to Rowley and was married in 1673 to Mary Wood. By her he was the father of Elizabeth, Ann, Lionel, James, Thomas, Mary, Martha, Ruth, and Hannah.
The emigrant John Choate, who came from England to America about l643 at the age of nineteen, settled at Ipswich, Mass., and is believed to have been the ancestor of the majority of the Choates of America. By his wife Anne or Ann he was the father of John, Margaret, Samuel, Mary, Thomas, Sarah, Joseph, and Benjamin.
John eldest son of the emigrant John Choate, married four times. By his first wife, Elizabeth Graves, whom he married in 1684, he was the father of John, Anne, and Sarah; by his second wife, the widow Elizabeth Giddings, whom he married in 1690, he had further issue of Robert, Samuel, Ebenezer, Nehemiah, , and Humphrey. By his third wife, the widow Sarah Perkins, whom he married in 1723, and his fourth wife, the widow Prudence (nee Woodward) Marshall, whom he married in 1728, he had no further children.
Samuel, second son of the emigrant John, was married in 1688 to Mary Williams, by whom he had issue of Mary (died young), Samuel, Sarah, Mary, Stephen, William, Elizabeth, Margaret, and John.
Thomas third son of the emigrant John, was married in 1690 to Mary Varney, by whom he was the father of Anne, Thomas, Mary, John, Abigail, Francis, Rachel, Ebenezer, and Sarah. There were no children by his second wife, the widow Mary Calef, whom he married in l734, nor by his third wife the widow Hannah Burnham, whom he married in 1743.
Joseph, fourth son of the emigrant John, had issue by his wife Rebecca (surname unknown) of Rebecca, Susanna, and Daniel.
Benjamin fifth and youngest son of the emigrant John, married Abigail Burnham in 1707. He was the father by her at Kingston, N.H., where he made his home, of Jonathan, Abigail (died in infancy), another Abigail, Benjamin (died in infancy), another Benjamin, Lucy, Ruhamah, Jeremiah, Abigail, and Joseph.
Among the others of the names of Chute and Choate who were to be found at early dates in America, were Thomas Chute, who came from London, England, to Portland, Me., in the early eighteenth century and was the father by his wife Mary Abagail and others; one Humphrey Choate (ancestry uncertain), who is held by some family historians to have been the son of a deserter from a British man of war and to have resided at Essex, Mass. in the early seventeenth century, and who was the father there of Thomas and Humphrey both of whom left numerous issue : and Samuel Choate (ancestry unknown) of Charlestown, Mass., before 1759, who was married in that year to Susanna Pierce, by whom he was the father of Samuel (died young), James, Susanna (died young), another Samuel, Rebecca, another Susanna, Polly, Nancy, and Mille.
The descendants of these and other branches of the family in America have scattered into all parts of the country and have aided as much in the advancement of American civilization as their forbears did in its founding and establishment on this continent. They have been characterized in general by tenacity of purpose, energy, and a humanitarian interest in their fellow men which has led some of the family into the fields of medicine, literature, and statecraft.
Among those of the names of Chute and Choate who fought in the War of the Revolution were Captain Daniel and Privates David, James, Josiah or Joseph, and Thomas Chute, of Massachusetts; Captains Daniel and Thomas. Lieutenants John, Samuel, and Joseph. Ensign Humphrey, Sergeants William, Thomas, Isaac, and Jeremiah, Corporal Nehemiah, and Privates Aaron, Abram, David, Dudley, Eben or Ebenezer, Elnathan, Ephraim, Francis, Jabez, James, Jonathan, Josiah, Robert, Simeon, and Solomon Choate, of Massachusetts; and numerous others from the other New England, Middle, and Southern States.
John, Anthony, Henry, Edward, Robert, Charles, distinguished themselves in America in more recent times are the following:
Rufus Choate (1799-1859), of Massachusetts, jurist.
Joseph Hodges Choate (1832~1917), of Massachusetts, lawyer and diplomat.
Robert Burnett Choate (b. 1898), of Massachusetts, editor.
Charles Lionel Chute (b. 1882), of Massachusetts, social worker.
Arthur Lambert Chute (1869-1934), American surgeon.
One of the most ancient and most frequently used of the coats of arms of the ancient English family of Chute,
Judy Wille
Hi Berlene,
You are correct. Susannah Langford is the same person as Susannah Lankford
Dyke,spelled both ways,some of my relatives went by Langford,and some
Lankford
GO FIGURE. Susannah father was a James Lankford from Surry Co NC abt
1760/90's. I believe he was my GGGGfather's brother. Ishom father was also
spelled Dyches.
John Seitz was the brother to my GGGGfather William Seitz/Sitz who married
ELENOR CHOATE. Most had their names changed to Sitz when they moved to
Dekalb/Etowah Co AL, also some was spelled Sides even in Warren Co TN as of
1820's.
Roy
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From: "Berlene Jacques" <tawquish(a)yahoo.com>
To: "Choate" <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: [CHOATE] For Roy ~ I made another Boo-Boo
Roy,
I was looking at the Tree of Doris Purcell and discovered that Isham Dykes
m. Susannah LANGFORD not Lankford. Doris hasn't updated her tree since 2007
but she does leave this note "Always glad to help in research" and she
stated that she spent 14 years researching the Purcell/Dykes/ West lines.
Her e-mail addy is
dopurcell at verizon dot net
You might want to contact her if she still around, she may have your
information for you.
Also she names John Seitz as the s/o Andrew Seitz...this is probably the
same Andrew Seitz that Silas owed money to when he emigrated West. Doris
stated that this family moved to Etowah, Alabama from North Carolina.
Berlene
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The following is a copy of the Choate History given to me by my grandfather Pleasant Alonzo (Lon) Choate son of Jeff Choate and Mary Francis Smith.
I have been able to find most of the information already recorded on Rootsweb but I still can't connect my greatgrandfather to any of it. Can anyone help ?
Does anyone recognize any of this ?
THE NAME AND FAMILY OF CHOATE
The names of CHOATE and CHUTE are believed to have been of common origin and derived from the residence of their first bearers at a place called Chute in Wiltshire, England. Certain historians, however, state that the name of Choate was of Dutch origin and was taken by its first bearers from their residence at a place of that name in the Netherlands. According to this theory the name was originally found in the form of Van Choate. Since definite proof cannot be obtained for either of these assertions, it is more generally assumed that the first theory is correct and that Choate is a corrupted form of Chute.
These names are found in ancient British and early American records in the various spellings of Choat, Chote, Chott, Chotte, Chewt, Chewte, Chutt, Chutte, Choote, Choot, Chut, Chute, Choate, and numerous others, of which the last two forms mentioned are those most generally accepted in America today.
Families bearing these names were to be found at early dates in the English Counties of Somerset, Essex, Kent, Suffolk, Norfolk, Hants, Surrey, and London. They were, for the most part, of the landed gentry and yeomanry of Great Britain.
One of the earliest records of the Chute family of England is that of one Alexander Chewte or Chute of Somersetshire about the year 1268, who was the father of a son named John and probably of another named Richard. John married Jane Broomfield and was the father by her of Edward, who was the father by his wife Christiana Chiddock of Phillip, James, and Anthony, of whom the first married a daughter of Sir John Brittan and had issue by her of George and Jane. George became the father by his wife, a Miss Faril whom he married about 1344, of a son Ambrose, who married Amabel Chittester and was the father of Edward and Christian, of whom the first was married about 1379 to Dionis Sturton, by whom he had issue of Henry, William, and Anthony.
Of these, it is known that William died without issue; that Anthony married a daughter of Sir John Clifton and became the father of Christopher and Robert, of whom the first made his home in Hertfordshire and probably left issue there; and that Henry (eldest son of Edward and Dionis) married a Miss Hasherfield and was the father by her of a son named Robert. The latter became the father by his wife, Alice Bartley, of Charles, who was the father by his wife (a Miss Chang) of a son named Edmond, who was the father of Robert, who married Jane Lucas and was the father of Oliver, Charles, and William, of whom Charles married a Miss Crips and was the father of Anthony and Phillip.
Of these last two brothers, Phillip married a Miss Coolpepper or Culpepper and had issue of George, Edward, and Anthony, of whom the first is known to have settled in County Kent. Anthony (the elder brother of Phillip) married a Miss Gee and had issue of Anthony, William, Christopher, and Lionel, of whom the last married a Miss Greene and had issue of Lionel, George, Charles, and Judith, of whom the first emigrated to America about 1635 and will be mentioned again later.
Of the name of Choate in England only a few records have been found and these are fragmentary. Among them, however, are those of a Choate who was a church warden in Essex County about 1500; those of John Choate of County Suffolk about the middle of the sixteenth century, who is thought to have had a daughter named Elizabeth in 1589; those of John Choat of Essex County in the early seventeenth century, who was the father by his wife Susanna in the year 1621 of a son named John, and in 1625 of a son named Edmund; those of Richard Choat, who was the father in Essex County in the early seventeenth century of Annie and Henry; those of Joseph and John (son of Edward) Choat of County Essex in 1632; those of the brothers Joseph and Matthew Choat of County Essex in 1635 ; and those of Robert Choate of County Essex about the same time, who was the father by his wife Sarah John, Elizabeth, and Marie, of whom the first was baptized in 1624 and is believed by some historians to have been the emigrant John Choate who came to America in 1643.
While it is not entirely clear in every case from which of the numerous lines of the family in Great Britain the first emigrants of the name to America traced their descent, it appears from old records that the Choates and Chutes were among the earliest settlers in colonial America.
The before-mentioned emigrant Lionel Chute, who came from England to America in 1635, or shortly thereafter, settled at Ipswich, Mass. According to records, he was the ancestor of most of the Chutes who are living in America today. By his wife, Rose Baker, he had a son named James, who was born in England and came with his parents to America. This James married a Miss Epes and became the father by her of an only son, named James, who removed to Rowley and was married in 1673 to Mary Wood. By her he was the father of Elizabeth, Ann, Lionel, James, Thomas, Mary, Martha, Ruth, and Hannah.
The emigrant John Choate, who came from England to America about l643 at the age of nineteen, settled at Ipswich, Mass., and is believed to have been the ancestor of the majority of the Choates of America. By his wife Anne or Ann he was the father of John, Margaret, Samuel, Mary, Thomas, Sarah, Joseph, and Benjamin.
John eldest son of the emigrant John Choate, married four times. By his first wife, Elizabeth Graves, whom he married in 1684, he was the father of John, Anne, and Sarah; by his second wife, the widow Elizabeth Giddings, whom he married in 1690, he had further issue of Robert, Samuel, Ebenezer, Nehemiah, , and Humphrey. By his third wife, the widow Sarah Perkins, whom he married in 1723, and his fourth wife, the widow Prudence (nee Woodward) Marshall, whom he married in 1728, he had no further children.
Samuel, second son of the emigrant John, was married in 1688 to Mary Williams, by whom he had issue of Mary (died young), Samuel, Sarah, Mary, Stephen, William, Elizabeth, Margaret, and John.
Thomas third son of the emigrant John, was married in 1690 to Mary Varney, by whom he was the father of Anne, Thomas, Mary, John, Abigail, Francis, Rachel, Ebenezer, and Sarah. There were no children by his second wife, the widow Mary Calef, whom he married in l734, nor by his third wife the widow Hannah Burnham, whom he married in 1743.
Joseph, fourth son of the emigrant John, had issue by his wife Rebecca (surname unknown) of Rebecca, Susanna, and Daniel.
Benjamin fifth and youngest son of the emigrant John, married Abigail Burnham in 1707. He was the father by her at Kingston, N.H., where he made his home, of Jonathan, Abigail (died in infancy), another Abigail, Benjamin (died in infancy), another Benjamin, Lucy, Ruhamah, Jeremiah, Abigail, and Joseph.
Among the others of the names of Chute and Choate who were to be found at early dates in America, were Thomas Chute, who came from London, England, to Portland, Me., in the early eighteenth century and was the father by his wife Mary Abagail and others; one Humphrey Choate (ancestry uncertain), who is held by some family historians to have been the son of a deserter from a British man of war and to have resided at Essex, Mass. in the early seventeenth century, and who was the father there of Thomas and Humphrey both of whom left numerous issue : and Samuel Choate (ancestry unknown) of Charlestown, Mass., before 1759, who was married in that year to Susanna Pierce, by whom he was the father of Samuel (died young), James, Susanna (died young), another Samuel, Rebecca, another Susanna, Polly, Nancy, and Mille.
The descendants of these and other branches of the family in America have scattered into all parts of the country and have aided as much in the advancement of American civilization as their forbears did in its founding and establishment on this continent. They have been characterized in general by tenacity of purpose, energy, and a humanitarian interest in their fellow men which has led some of the family into the fields of medicine, literature, and statecraft.
Among those of the names of Chute and Choate who fought in the War of the Revolution were Captain Daniel and Privates David, James, Josiah or Joseph, and Thomas Chute, of Massachusetts; Captains Daniel and Thomas. Lieutenants John, Samuel, and Joseph. Ensign Humphrey, Sergeants William, Thomas, Isaac, and Jeremiah, Corporal Nehemiah, and Privates Aaron, Abram, David, Dudley, Eben or Ebenezer, Elnathan, Ephraim, Francis, Jabez, James, Jonathan, Josiah, Robert, Simeon, and Solomon Choate, of Massachusetts; and numerous others from the other New England, Middle, and Southern States.
John, Anthony, Henry, Edward, Robert, Charles, distinguished themselves in America in more recent times are the following:
Rufus Choate (1799-1859), of Massachusetts, jurist.
Joseph Hodges Choate (1832~1917), of Massachusetts, lawyer and diplomat.
Robert Burnett Choate (b. 1898), of Massachusetts, editor.
Charles Lionel Chute (b. 1882), of Massachusetts, social worker.
Arthur Lambert Chute (1869-1934), American surgeon.
One of the most ancient and most frequently used of the coats of arms of the ancient English family of Chute,
Judy Wille