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I guess you'd just have to read through the whole site *G* Or search
for specific names.
Berlene Jacques wrote:
>Hi Barbara,
>
> Thanks for the stories...very interesting but I sure wish there was a little bit more about the people these Choate men lived around.
>
> I am also happy to see some activity on this list....it has been too quiet for so very long.
>
> Query.... Does anyone know anything about these Choate people?
>
> I am searching for the family of Charles Rufus Choate b. ca. 1875 and his sister Mollie (Mary?) E. b. ca. 1899/70. They were born in Tennessee. They may have had sisters named Alice and Mattie.
>
> I am also trying to find the family of Austin Choate of Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee. Austin m. Susan E. Lunsford. The census states that Austin was b. ca. 1840 in Tennessee. Possible brothers of Austin may be Gabriel and Laten/Lathan Choate. There is also the possibility that Austin was the uncle of Charles and Mollie Choate listed above.
>
> Berlene Jacques
>Barbara <brivas1(a)cox.net> wrote:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
>
>*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
>*Date: March 28, 1938*
>*Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
>*Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
>*Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
>*Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
>*Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
>*Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
>*Place of Birth: Mississippi*
>*Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
>*Mother: Lydia Simmons*
>*Place of birth: Mississippi*
>*Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
>*Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
>*Interview #10386*
>
>*My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in the
>migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
>Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
>Choate, was a white woman.*
>
>*They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
>near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857. We
>lived in a little log cabin.*
>
>*There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
>schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
>
>*There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
>traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
>
>*I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home just
>after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
>and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever since
>about 1855.*
>
>*There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
>folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
>from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
>
>*Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
>seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
>these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
>of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
>Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
>March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men came
>and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors' cabins
>looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
>feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
>One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
>
>*There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
>hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
>
>*There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
>killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
>would go.*
>
>*My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty good
>sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
>widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When we
>were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
>unknown in our country for many years.*
>
>*I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
>year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
>
>*I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
>take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number of
>days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
>
>*The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
>were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
>keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
>protect us.*
>
>*Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was ready
>to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
>eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
>stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a brush
>fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
>and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
>three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
>eat green corn.*
>
>*At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
>years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name, and
>a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
>
>*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz
>
>
>>06-1999.*
>>
>>
>
>
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The names keep repeating, and I thought someone might be able to tie the
main branch into these.
Marjorie Kinkade wrote:
>How interesting those stories are - Thank you for sending them
>Marj Kinkade - from the Northern branch
>On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Barbara wrote:
>
>
>
>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
>>
>>*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
>>*Date: March 28, 1938*
>>*Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
>>*Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
>>*Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
>>*Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
>>*Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
>>*Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
>>*Place of Birth: Mississippi*
>>*Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
>>*Mother: Lydia Simmons*
>>*Place of birth: Mississippi*
>>*Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
>>*Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
>>*Interview #10386*
>>
>>*My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in
>>the
>>migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
>>Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
>>Choate, was a white woman.*
>>
>>*They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
>>near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857.
>>We
>>lived in a little log cabin.*
>>
>>*There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
>>schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
>>
>>*There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
>>traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
>>
>>*I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home
>>just
>>after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
>>and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever
>>since
>>about 1855.*
>>
>>*There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
>>folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
>>from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
>>
>>*Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
>>seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
>>these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
>>of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
>>Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
>>March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men
>>came
>>and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors'
>>cabins
>>looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
>>feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
>>One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
>>
>>*There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
>>hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
>>
>>*There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
>>killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
>>would go.*
>>
>>*My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty
>>good
>>sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
>>widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When
>>we
>>were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
>>unknown in our country for many years.*
>>
>>*I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
>>year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
>>
>>*I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
>>take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number
>>of
>>days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
>>
>>*The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
>>were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
>>keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
>>protect us.*
>>
>>*Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was
>>ready
>>to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
>>eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
>>stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a
>>brush
>>fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
>>and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
>>three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
>>eat green corn.*
>>
>>*At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
>>years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name,
>>and
>>a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
>>
>>*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
>><mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
>>
>>
>>
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>
It might depend upon how poor they were and at what stage during the war.
Roy&Cindy wrote:
>Hi all Choate researchers,
> Could some tell me if the Lighthorsemen/Mounted Militamen wore
>uniforms?,and what coror were they.
> I have a picture of my GGfarther Allen Bond, or his father wearing a
>uniform. Allen was believed to be from Natives American( Choctaw) descent
>brn abt 1850 AR, after 1900 place unk.
>Thanks very much,
>Shadrach.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barbara" <brivas1(a)cox.net>
>To: "CHOATE LIST" <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:58 AM
>Subject: [CHOATE] Christopher Columbus Choate
>
>
>
>
>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
>>
>>*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
>>*Date: March 28, 1938*
>>*Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
>>*Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
>>*Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
>>*Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
>>*Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
>>*Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
>>*Place of Birth: Mississippi*
>>*Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
>>*Mother: Lydia Simmons*
>>*Place of birth: Mississippi*
>>*Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
>>*Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
>>*Interview #10386*
>>
>>*My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in the
>>migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
>>Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
>>Choate, was a white woman.*
>>
>>*They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
>>near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857. We
>>lived in a little log cabin.*
>>
>>*There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
>>schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
>>
>>*There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
>>traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
>>
>>*I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home just
>>after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
>>and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever since
>>about 1855.*
>>
>>*There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
>>folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
>>from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
>>
>>*Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
>>seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
>>these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
>>of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
>>Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
>>March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men came
>>and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors' cabins
>>looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
>>feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
>>One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
>>
>>*There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
>>hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
>>
>>*There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
>>killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
>>would go.*
>>
>>*My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty good
>>sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
>>widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When we
>>were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
>>unknown in our country for many years.*
>>
>>*I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
>>year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
>>
>>*I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
>>take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number of
>>days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
>>
>>*The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
>>were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
>>keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
>>protect us.*
>>
>>*Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was ready
>>to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
>>eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
>>stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a brush
>>fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
>>and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
>>three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
>>eat green corn.*
>>
>>*At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
>>years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name, and
>>a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
>>
>>*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
>><mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
>>
>>
>>
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>>CHOATE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes
>>in the subject and the body of the message
>>
>>
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How interesting those stories are - Thank you for sending them
Marj Kinkade - from the Northern branch
On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Barbara wrote:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
>
> *Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
> *Date: March 28, 1938*
> *Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
> *Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
> *Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
> *Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
> *Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
> *Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
> *Place of Birth: Mississippi*
> *Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
> *Mother: Lydia Simmons*
> *Place of birth: Mississippi*
> *Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
> *Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
> *Interview #10386*
>
> *My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in
> the
> migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
> Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
> Choate, was a white woman.*
>
> *They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
> near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857.
> We
> lived in a little log cabin.*
>
> *There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
> schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
>
> *There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
> traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
>
> *I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home
> just
> after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
> and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever
> since
> about 1855.*
>
> *There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
> folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
> from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
>
> *Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
> seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
> these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
> of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
> Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
> March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men
> came
> and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors'
> cabins
> looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
> feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
> One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
>
> *There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
> hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
>
> *There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
> killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
> would go.*
>
> *My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty
> good
> sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
> widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When
> we
> were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
> unknown in our country for many years.*
>
> *I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
> year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
>
> *I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
> take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number
> of
> days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
>
> *The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
> were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
> keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
> protect us.*
>
> *Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was
> ready
> to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
> eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
> stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a
> brush
> fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
> and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
> three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
> eat green corn.*
>
> *At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
> years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name,
> and
> a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
>
> *Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
> <mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
>
>
>
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> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> CHOATE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
Hi all Choate researchers,
Could some tell me if the Lighthorsemen/Mounted Militamen wore
uniforms?,and what coror were they.
I have a picture of my GGfarther Allen Bond, or his father wearing a
uniform. Allen was believed to be from Natives American( Choctaw) descent
brn abt 1850 AR, after 1900 place unk.
Thanks very much,
Shadrach.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara" <brivas1(a)cox.net>
To: "CHOATE LIST" <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:58 AM
Subject: [CHOATE] Christopher Columbus Choate
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
>
> *Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
> *Date: March 28, 1938*
> *Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
> *Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
> *Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
> *Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
> *Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
> *Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
> *Place of Birth: Mississippi*
> *Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
> *Mother: Lydia Simmons*
> *Place of birth: Mississippi*
> *Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
> *Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
> *Interview #10386*
>
> *My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in the
> migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
> Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
> Choate, was a white woman.*
>
> *They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
> near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857. We
> lived in a little log cabin.*
>
> *There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
> schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
>
> *There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
> traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
>
> *I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home just
> after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
> and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever since
> about 1855.*
>
> *There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
> folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
> from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
>
> *Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
> seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
> these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
> of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
> Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
> March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men came
> and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors' cabins
> looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
> feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
> One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
>
> *There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
> hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
>
> *There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
> killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
> would go.*
>
> *My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty good
> sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
> widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When we
> were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
> unknown in our country for many years.*
>
> *I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
> year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
>
> *I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
> take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number of
> days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
>
> *The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
> were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
> keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
> protect us.*
>
> *Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was ready
> to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
> eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
> stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a brush
> fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
> and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
> three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
> eat green corn.*
>
> *At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
> years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name, and
> a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
>
> *Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
> <mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
>
>
>
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Hi Barbara,
Thanks for the stories...very interesting but I sure wish there was a little bit more about the people these Choate men lived around.
I am also happy to see some activity on this list....it has been too quiet for so very long.
Query.... Does anyone know anything about these Choate people?
I am searching for the family of Charles Rufus Choate b. ca. 1875 and his sister Mollie (Mary?) E. b. ca. 1899/70. They were born in Tennessee. They may have had sisters named Alice and Mattie.
I am also trying to find the family of Austin Choate of Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee. Austin m. Susan E. Lunsford. The census states that Austin was b. ca. 1840 in Tennessee. Possible brothers of Austin may be Gabriel and Laten/Lathan Choate. There is also the possibility that Austin was the uncle of Charles and Mollie Choate listed above.
Berlene Jacques
Barbara <brivas1(a)cox.net> wrote:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
*Date: March 28, 1938*
*Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
*Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
*Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
*Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
*Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
*Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
*Place of Birth: Mississippi*
*Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
*Mother: Lydia Simmons*
*Place of birth: Mississippi*
*Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
*Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
*Interview #10386*
*My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in the
migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
Choate, was a white woman.*
*They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857. We
lived in a little log cabin.*
*There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
*There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
*I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home just
after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever since
about 1855.*
*There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
*Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men came
and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors' cabins
looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
*There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
*There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
would go.*
*My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty good
sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When we
were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
unknown in our country for many years.*
*I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
*I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number of
days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
*The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
protect us.*
*Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was ready
to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a brush
fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
eat green corn.*
*At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name, and
a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz
> 06-1999.*
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http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatewalter.html
*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
*Date: May 5, 1937*
*Name: Walter Choate*
*Post Office: Bradley Bolinger, Oklahoma*
*Date of Birth: May 9, 1877*
*Place of Birth: near the town no of Erobe, Oklahoma*
*Father: Henry Choate*
*Place of Birth: Choctaw Nation*
*Information on father: near Ft. Gibson*
*Mother: Martha Nolan Choate*
*Place of birth: near Ft. Gibson*
*Information on mother: Part Chickasaw Indian 1/2 and White 1/2.*
*(Note: these percentages hard to read because of type face.)*
*Field Worker: Bradley Bolinger*
*My father's name was Henry CHOATE, a half-blood Choctaw Indian. His
birth place was near old Fort Gibson.*
*My mother - Chickasaw and White - I do not remember just where she was
born. My father and mother died when I was pretty young. We lived in
their life-time in the eastern part of what is now Latimer County. My
father was U.S. Deputy Marshal, handling only Indian affairs in this
territory.*
*I was a boy living in this country, now Latimer County, when the first
Railroad came through. They called it then the Choctaw road. Later of
course the Rock Island Railroad Company took it over. There was a Stage
Line starting at Fort Smith, Arkansas, and making a stop at what was
known as Riddle Station 2 1/2 miles east of where Wilburton now is. This
State Line was going southwest making one more stop in this country at
Mt. Station, 10 miles southwest of new Wilburton. It went on southwest
to Old Boggy Depot on Boggy Creek in what is now Atoka County. It was
run long before any railroad came through this country.*
*I used to visit the Indian Courthouse which was located about 2 miles
southwest of Wilburton. It was built of hewed logs, and was about 16
foot square. An Indian Judge, Jury, sheriff and all Indian help presided
at this court. They were very strict on the Indian race in regards to
stealing and killing. I remember attending a trial of an Indian there
who had stolen a horse. The Indian was notified by the Indian sheriff's
force and he appeared there on the morning of the day of his trial. They
tried this Indian and found him guilty. After the trial they immediately
carried him outside and one Indian deputy took hold of his right arm and
another took the left hand arm. They marched the prisoner up to a good
sized tree that stood in the yard; placed the prisoner's breast up
against the tree and each deputy pulled an hand an arm straight out in
front and held it there while the whipping was being put on the
prisoner's bare back. The number of lashes was according o the offense
he had committed.*
*The people that lived in this country in those days could go out and
find a piece of land that was open enough to farm a little without doing
much clearing; they would just build them a log house, settle down and
go to work, with a small tax to the Indian Department. We had to travel
a long ways to the only Grist mill there was in the country. Some times
it would take two or three days to make the round trip as there were no
roads around this country then.*
*About all the pleasure the settlers would have would be Indian ball
games and stomp dances through the country.*
*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
<mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatejulius.html
*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
*Date: July 26, 1937*
*Name: Julius Choate*
*Post Office: Nashoba, Oklahoma*
*Date of Birth: January 1874*
*Place of Birth: Nashoba, Oklahoma*
*Father: Lumey Choate*
*Place of Birth: Nashoba, Oklahoma*
*Information on father:*
*Mother: Elizabeth Choate*
*Place of birth: Mt. Zion, near Bethel, Oklahoma*
*Information on mother:*
*Field Worker: Johnson H. Hampton*
*Interview #6982*
*I was born in January, 1874, near what is now Nashoba, Oklahoma, on
Little River.*
*My father's name was Lumey CHOATE, and my mother's name was Elizabeth
Choate. My father was raised near Nashoba but my mother was raised near
Mount Zion Church which is in McCurtain County.*
*My father was in the Civil War but I don't know in what company he was.
He said that the Indian soldiers had a hard time getting by; they would
go for several days without a bite to eat except what they could get on
the road. They would kill anything they saw on the road, for they were
hungry; and not only that but they did not have sufficient bedding to
keep them warm in the night. They nearly froze when it turned cold on
them during the night. They had to build a big fire and sit around it
all night. Sometimes they had to ride without a bite to eat and several
of them did freeze during the night for they did not have bedding to
keep them warm. Father served all through the war and when the war was
over he came home. He was not married then but after he came home he
went to Mount Zion and married my mother and brought her to Nashoba,
where he made his home.*
*I don't know my grandfather nor my grandmother, but I have been told
that they came from Mississippi, I think that they located some where in
Eagle County when they first came to this country; then they moved to
what is now Nashoba, at that time it was called Nashoba County by the
Choctaws. They lived there until they died and were buried there, but as
to where they were buried in Nashoba County I don't know.*
*We traded at Fort Smith; my father and several other Indians would make
up a wagon train and start to Fort Smith. It would take them long time
to get back for they had to go slow because the roads were bad then and
the mountains were high and no roads through them hardly so it took them
a good while to get back. Their teams were oxen so they could not go
very fast; they would bring back groceries which would last us a good
while; we had to be saving with our flour and coffee and the like for it
was too far to go for them; we had flour bread and coffee only Sunday
mornings.*
*Several years after that a white man came and put up a store in the
neighborhood where we did our trading. This man ran the store for a good
many years there and finally died there and was buried there. I don't
remember his name now but he was a good white man, for at that time
there were few white people in the country and what was there were all
criminals and law breakers.*
*We had a small farm where we raised corn and garden vegetables. We used
to make all we could use; we Indians did not know how to can vegetables
so we did not have canned stuff for the winter use. We had cattle, hogs
and some ponies on the farm. We did not need a big farm we could raise
enough corn for our bread and that was about all we needed corn for, for
we did not feed our stock any corn; there were plenty of grass and cane
on the creeks for their winter feed. Cattle would stay fat all winter
and the hogs got fat on the acorns. We used to have a big acorn crop
every year, so there was no use in having a big farm at that time. The
bread we had then was corn bread made by beating it in a mortar; and
Mother used to make several kinds of corn bread made by beating it in a
mortar; and Mother used to make several kinds of corn bread and hominy
for us to eat.*
*My father never did hold any public office under the Choctaw
Government, but did serve on several juries in the Choctaw Courts; the
Choctaw court was held at Alikehi, in Nashoba County. The District was
called Apakashanabbee District, and the court was a district court. They
held the court once a year and it would last about thirty days. The
jurors would be paid $2.00 per day in scrip; Father would stay until
after the court adjourned and get his scrip for his services then he
would sell this scrip for about half the amount, losing about half of it
by selling it. There used to be some one there who would buy this scrip
then he would hold it for some time and he would get his money out for
the scrip in full in cash.*
*I served as Deputy Sheriff in this county, but it was after statehood;
for several years prior to that time I never was anything except a farmer.*
*We lived in log houses when I was a boy; in fact, all the Indians lived
in log houses, some of them would have split logs for flooring and some
of them would have a dirt floor. These log houses would have one door
and no windows, while some would cut a hole in the wall and make a
window and the shutter would be made out of some split saplings.*
*I never went to school and of course, I understand but very little
English, and can't read or write in English, but can read and write in
my own language. I have lived among my tribe of Indians all my life; my
parents were all Choctaw Indians. We never did have any trouble with
them.*
*I never played Indian ball games but I have seen them played by other
Indians. It sued to be rough game, that is, it looked that way to me.*
*I never saw the Indian dance - the Scalp dance or the War dance; I have
never seen them dance but it was not the war nor the scalp dances for
they tell me that they had those dances during the war.*
*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
<mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ohs/choatechristopher.html
*Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma*
*Date: March 28, 1938*
*Name: Christopher Columbus Choate*
*Post Office: Guthrie, Oklahoma*
*Residence address (or location) Masonic Home for Aged*
*Date of Birth: April 17, 1857*
*Place of Birth: Near site of Indianola, Pittsburg Co., OK*
*Father: Samuel S. Choate,*
*Place of Birth: Mississippi*
*Information on father: Half Irish, half Choctaw*
*Mother: Lydia Simmons*
*Place of birth: Mississippi*
*Information on mother: Lydia Simmons*
*Field Worker: Don Moon, Jr.*
*Interview #10386*
*My parents and brother came to Indian Territory from Mississippi in the
migration in '54. My father, Samuel S. CHOATE, was the son of an
Irishman and a full-blood Choctaw woman. My mother, Lydia SIMMONS
Choate, was a white woman.*
*They settled on the Canadian River in what is now Pittsburg County,
near the present site of Indianola at which place I was born in 1857. We
lived in a little log cabin.*
*There were no schools near enough for me to attend, so all the
schooling I ever got was what my mother taught me around a brush-fire.*
*There were no missions or churches near us, either, but sometimes
traveling preacher would come along and hold services for us.*
*I still have my mother's Bible that was sent her from the old home just
after they moved to Indian Territory; it has the family records in it
and this Bible which was printed in 1829 has been in Oklahoma ever since
about 1855.*
*There weren't very many people in our part of Indian Territory when my
folks came. There was just one white man who had come with the Indians
from Mississippi; I do not know his name.*
*Our people settled close together in what they called townships; I had
seven uncles who lived close to us. My father died before the Civil War
these uncles helped to look after my mother and us boys. About the end
of the War the Indians all left their homes and went away down on the
Red River, I think they went in October or November and stayed until
March. We were the last ones to leave our home. Some Government men came
and helped Mother to move and I remember how funny our neighbors' cabins
looked, half full of feathers. When they were leaving they emptied the
feather-ticks so that they wouldn't take up so much room in the wagon.
One of our uncles helped us move back to our home in the spring.*
*There were no towns or trading posts near us and supplied had to be
hauled from Bonham, Texas.*
*There was plenty of game of every kind and when any one killed game or
killed a hog, it was divided among all the neighbors just as far as it
would go.*
*My mother was afraid for us boys to use a gun until we were pretty good
sized, but we soon had to go to shooting game to provide food for our
widowed mother. The only guns we had were all flint-lock rifles. When we
were old enough we farmed and raised cattle, horse and hogs; mules were
unknown in our country for many years.*
*I was a member of our Council one year, but wouldn't go back the next
year; our capitol was a Tuskahoma.*
*I served for 10 years as County Ranger. The duties were to find and
take up stray stock and after keeping such strays the required number of
days, sell them and turn the money into the tribal funds.*
*The Lighthorsemen, or mounted militiamen, I guess you might call them,
were sent wherever there was any kind of trouble to protect people and
keep order. When the Council met, the Lighthorsemen were there to
protect us.*
*Each spring a stomp dance was held just before the green corn was ready
to eat. No Indian would eat any corn before this dance, nor would they
eat with anyone who did eat corn before that. For three days before the
stomp dance, all the Indians took medicine, then the Chief built a brush
fire and the Indians danced around it. Music was furnished by fiddles
and a drum and everybody sang as they danced. This dance lasted about
three days, and was supposed to keep away sickness; after this we could
eat green corn.*
*At this dance, all the boys of the tribe who were about four or five
years old were brought before the Chief and he gave each boy a name, and
a small piece of tobacco. The boy was called by that name after that.*
*Transcribed by PJ Achramowicz <PJ_Achramowicz(a)spe.sony.com
<mailto:PJ_Achramowicz@spe.sony.com>> 06-1999.*