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Heres a Nicholas I found but don't know his connection to an earlier Nicholas
Choate who was born before 1775
Johnstown Cemetery, Missouri
http://205.180.85.40/w/pc.cgi?mid=13365&sid=7271
Surname F. Name Ini Gender Birth Death Relationship
Share Age
Choate Nicholas L Male Feb. 7, 1817 Sept. 18,1898 husband of Pernelia
L. Choate yes
Choate Pernelia L Female Nov. 22, 182 July 1, 1878 wife of nicholas
Choate yes
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Kennedy
To: aljo(a)intplsrv.net
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Creed Taylor or Creed Taylor DeGraffenried
Pat Kennedy here:
I've spent a couple days on the computer in trying to find records on all of this. It has become very interesting and I'm picking up bits of DeGraffenried records, here and there. I most likely will type some of those up and send out on the DeG...mail list. To let you know ----- I'm working on it.
Pat
The following informatin is from Don Boudreaux via Judy W.
As Entry appears in book:
MILHOMME, Prudence {Francois - of Illinois & Prudence CHOATE - of
Natchez} b. 15 AUG 1801, bt. 9 NOV 1802 Pats:Francois MILHOMME - of
Quebec and Catherine MINI - of Detroit; Mats:Joan CHOAT - of Virginia &
Celeste HOLSON - of Carolina. Spons:Stephen HOLSON & Celeste HOLSON.
"En una mission por abaro Bayo" {during a mission on the lower bayou}
Teche continuing at Jean Pierre HARTMAN. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE
{SM Ch.: v.5, #567}
As "translated"
MILHOMME, Prudence {[daughter of] Francois MILHOMME - of Illinois &
Prudence CHOATE - of Natchez} b. 15 AUG 1801, baptized. 9 NOV 1802 Pats
[Paternal grandparents]: Francois MILHOMME - of Quebec and Catherine
MINI - of Detroit; Mats [Maternal grandparents]: Joan [John] CHOAT - of
Virginia & Celeste HOLSON - of Carolina. Spons [Sponsors or
godparents]: Stephen HOLSON & Celeste OLSON. "En una mission por abaro
Bayo [Teche]" {during a mission on the lower bayou} Teche continuing at
Jean Pierre HARTMAN. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE {SM Ch.: v.5,
#567} [The priest's name was Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE] [The original
records are written in French and are from the records of the Catholic
Church (St. Marin deTours) in St. Martinville, LA . Volume 5, and #567
is either the record number or the page number...I am not sure of
which].
First Generation
1. Prudence CHOATE.
Prudence married Francois MILHOMME II. on 8 Apr 1790 in St. Martinville,
, La..
They had the following children:
2 F i. Celeste MILHOMME was born about 1794 in St. Martinville, La. and
was christened on 17 Jun 1795 in St. Martinville, La..
3 F ii. Prudence MILHOMME was born on 15 Aug 1801 in St. Martinville, ,
La. and was christened on 9 Nov 1802 in St. Martinville, , La..
Appendix A - Notes
1. Prudence CHOATE
Daughter of Jean (John) CHOATE and Celeste OLSTOWN
SOURCE: Marriage Records transcription: Southwest Louisiana Records
by Rev. Donald J. Hebert volume 1A; page
182 & 570
1S. Francois MILHOMME II.
Son of Francois MILHOMME II and Catherine MYNI
SOURCE: Marriage Records transcription: Southwest Louisiana Records
by Rev. Donald J. Hebert volume 1A; page
182 & 570
2. Celeste MILHOMME
SOURCE: Christening Records transcription: Southwest Louisiana
Records by Rev. Donald J. Hebert volume 1A; page
570
3. Prudence MILHOMME
SOURCE: Christening Records transcription: Southwest Louisiana
Records by Rev. Donald J. Hebert volume 1B, page
522 GP
Who were the parents of the David Choate, Sr. identified below?
Thanks
Doyle T. Brittain
----- Original Message -----
From: <LarkinP(a)aol.com>
To: <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: [CHOATE] David Choate Jr. Texas
> There is more on David Choate at below website, not my line but I do a
lot
> of Texas research so I see Choate's mentioned frequently.
> David Choate Sr.(d. 1845 Harris Co. TX ) & Sarah A.M. Clark Choate
(parents
> of six Children) > David Choate Jr.( b. 1811 Louisiana - buried Voth,
Hardin
> County TX )Texas Revolutionary Veteran (Battle of San Jacinto) - Brother ?
> Thomas J. Choate
> http://www.sanjacinto-museum.org/kemp/v151.html
>
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For my Northern Choate Cousins (Should we consider DNA testing?)
There is an Alonzo Choate's widow down in this Wyoming Co., NY post that came
across my screen. I don't have the faintest idea who any of these people
are. But I trust one of you does.
Janet Hunter (a Southern Choate)
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Source: FARGO-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Benjamin F. FARGO - Warsaw, Wyoming co., NY
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Surnames: Fargo, Chapman, Day, Kimball, Mason, Choate, Seaver, Whalan, Cook,
Bloomfield, Hatch, Blowers, Webster, Truesdell, Stimson
Classification: Biography
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xcV.2ACEB/101
Message Board Post:
Source: Biographical Review of the Leading Citizens of Livingston and
Wyoming Counties, New York, (Boston, Biographical Review Publishing Company,
1895)
Page 162
BENJAMIN F. FARGO, a retired business man of Warsaw, N.Y., now engaged as a
collector, was born one mile and a half north of the village, on June 10,
1817. His paternal grandfather, Nehemiah FARGO, was born in Connecticut,
January 10, 1764, and came to Wyoming County in 1804, having lived in
Sandisfield and Great Barrington, Mass., and at Green River and in Genesee,
N.Y. His wife, Mary CHAPMAN, was the mother of five sons and three
daughters, of whom a little boy of four was drowned and a little girl died at
three years of age. The others all grew to maturity, and became heads of
families. Silas, the eldest, living to be ninety-four. Mrs.. FARGO, who was
born on Christmas Day, 1764, died December 12, 1839. Mr.. FARGO died on
October 13, 1828.
His son David, the father of Benjamin F., was a native of Montville, Conn.,
in which town he was born October 31, 1786. He was married twice. His first
wife, Miss Bethia DAY, to whom he was married on September 9, 1810, lived
only four years thereafter. She was a daughter of Elkanah DAY, who came to
Warsaw from Attleboro, Vt., in 1806, and bore her husband two children, a son
who died at three years of age and a daughter, Polly, who became the wife of
Mr.. Chauncey KIMBALL, and died at Baraboo, Wis., in 1890. The second wife,
Mrs.. David FARGO, was Phoebe MASON. Mr.. FARGO was a farmer at what was
then known as the Four Corners, in the town of Warsaw. Here most of his life
was spent, and here were born his ten children, of whom six sons and two
daughters reached maturity. They were: David Mason FARGO, who died in
Kansas in 1890, leaving a family; Benjamin F., whose name heads this memoir;
Darius C., a resident of Santa Cruz, Cal, who is noted for his natural
mechani!
cal talent; Myron I., a farmer of Attica; Francis F., who died in Buffalo in
1890, aged sixty-eight; Adeline, the widow of Alonzo CHOATE, of Connecticut;
Harrison, who served three years in the late Civil War, and died in Olean,
N.Y., at fifty-six years of age; and Harriet, the widow of Charles L. SEAVER,
residing in Connecticut. Harrison FARGO had two children by his second wife,
Miss Laura WHALAN. One daughter Florence, is a book-keeper in Glover's
dry-goods store; the other, Florine, in Wellsville, N.Y., has remarkable
musical talent. Mrs.. Phoebe FARGO died January 21, 1850, aged fifty-eight.
Her husband survived her five years, dying May 16, 1855 at sixty-nine year of
age. Mr.. FARGO was noted for his strong religious faith, his pious and
conscientious life, and his remarkable knowledge of the Scriptures. He was
many years an official in the Baptist church of his town. he was not lacking
in practical capacity, and left an estate of fifteen thousand dollars to be !
divided among his heirs.
Benjamin F. FARGO left the district school at eighteen, and studied for two
terms at the Wyoming Academy, after which he learned the trade of
wool-carding and cloth-dressing under his brother-in-law, Mr.. Chauncey
KIMBALL. In 1839 he went to Springville, Erie County, where he was employed
in the cloth factory owned by E.W. COOK, in which firm he became a partner
two years later. he came to Warsaw from Springville in 1849, and engaged in
mercantile business with his brother Francis F. FARGO, under the firm name of
F. F. Fargo and Co., which in 1851 was changed to B. F. Fargo & Co., Francis
F. FARGO leaving the business, and his father David, and his uncle, Allen
FARGO, entering the firm. When the father died, in 1855, Benjamin F. FARGO
became sole owner of the business and added thereto trade in country produce,
which he bought in the neighborhood and shipped to new York City. In 1870 he
built the brick block at No. 21 Main Street which has been occupied by the
printing o!
ffices of the Democratic Organ of Warsaw. After using part of this building
for a year, Mr.. Fargo leased it for a term of five years to James E. BISHOP
at five hundred dollars per year, retaining the upper floor for offices. In
1876 he again used this building as a grocery store, which he conducted for
ten years, finally giving it up to the management of his son, Charles H., who
had been his salesman and book-keeper. Mr. FARGO now devotes himself to
collecting, and besides holding the office of School Collector is very
successful in urging claims for the merchants of the vicinity.
he was married in Springville, September 11, 1841, to Miss Maria L.
BLOOMFIELD, the only daughter of her parents, Jervis and Salena (HATCH)
BLOOMFIELD. Her father was a magistrate of Springville, and belongs to an
old and long-established family there. One of her brothers, Hiram, a farmer,
died at sixty-eight years of age. The other two are David C., of Westfield,
and Homer, who lives in California. Mr. FARGO has lost one daughter, May S.,
who died at fifteen years of age, in May, 1877. His other children are:
Charles H., who is married, and has a little daughter of six years, called
Mabel, and lives in Warsaw, and Helen M. FARGO, also a resident of Warsaw.
Mrs. Maria L. FARGO died in 1875 at the age of fifty years; and Mr. FARGO was
again married on November 11, 1879, to Mrs. Calista BLOWERS, daughter of John
and Betsy (WEBSTER) TRUESDELL. Mrs. FARGO has lost two children of her
former marriage -- a son, Galusha W. BLOWERS, a volunteer in the Commissary
Department o!
f the Nineteenth New York Cavalry, under Captain STIMSON, who served but a
few months, and came home to die of consumption, August 2, 1862, at the early
age of twenty-two years; and Pauline BLOWERS, who died November 27, 1865,
aged twenty-four.
Mr. and Mrs. FARGO were formerly members of the Baptist church, but have
since joined the Congregationalist, in which church the former is now a
Deacon. Mr. FARGO is a stanch Republican, and has filled many offices in
Warsaw, among which inspector of elections, town Collector, and Constable may
be noted. For twelve years he was Secretary and Treasurer of the Water and
Gas Works, in which he owned stock. Mr.. Benjamin F. FARGO has been one of
the successful citizens of a town remarkable for having been the birthplace
of some of New York's best types of Northern character.
THIS INFORMATION COULD WELL BE OF INTEREST TO MEMBERS OF BOTH LIST, PLEASE
ADDRESS FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS SUBJECT TO BOTH LIST , JUDY WILLE
PAT (de Graffenried list) THESE ARE THE "CREED TAYLORS I SHOW IN MY RECORDS
I am not seeing any dates for this event. I have Creed Taylor's born 1766
and 1807 that link with my de Graffenried line and other (Creed Taylor -
first names) with sir names de Graffenried, Street, Strong and
Woodson..........do you suppose any of these might be the same as the Creed
Taylor of this event.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Kennedy <pat-igree-kenn(a)charter.net>
To: <DEGRAFFENREID-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Two Choate murders
> Pat Kennedy here:
>
> This is soooooooo interesting and I will do some other checking in my
> records.
>
> In looking in the Rootsweb WorldConnect...for a Creed Taylor. Just Creed
> Taylor...not.....Creed Taylor DeGraffenried. A number of Creed Taylors
are
> listed. The best connection that I could see in a brief checking of the
> records was:
>
> JTAYLOR [John Taylor jwesleytaylor(a)aol.com] listing.....
>
> James Creed Taylor b: 15 Jan 1851 DeWitt Co, TX d: 27 Dec 1875
> DeWitt Co, TX
> father: Pitkin B. Taylor
> mother: Susan Day Cochren
>
> [Taylor FTW]
> Jim was also a vitim of the Sutton-Taylor feud but, not before he and Bill
> Talor executed Jack Helm & Bill Sutton. Their exploits did not end the
feud
> however, it continued into the 20th century.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --
>
> In the info HISTORY OF DEWITT CO., TX (below)
> Jack Helm is listed, but no mention of Bill Sutton (that I see.)
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> Also in the charting:
>
> Mary DeGraffenried
> father: Christopher DeGraffenried
> mother: Hannah Sarton
> md: Creed Taylor
> [his second md.....# 1 md: Sally Woodson
> ----------------------------
>
> other charts:
>
> Goodbread ---- surname is interesting to follow along with the Taylor
line.
> --------------------
>
> So maybe there is some connection "away back" ......as CREED TAYLOR
> DEGRAFFENRIED is such an interesting name?????
>
> Waiting to hear from others on this???
> Pat Kennedy
> pat-igree-kenn(a)charter.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aljo" <aljo(a)intplsrv.net>
> To: <DEGRAFFENREID-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:29 AM
> Subject: Fw: [CHOATE] Two Choate murders
>
>
> > DOES THIS SOUND LIKE OUR CREED TAYLOR ??????????????
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: blkirkland <blkirkland(a)prodigy.net>
> > To: <CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHOATE] Two Choate murders
> >
> >
> > > HISTORY OF DeWITT COUNTY records the following regarding the
> > > above John CHOATE and his cousin Crockett CHOATE and their
> > > involvement in the Taylor-Sutton Feud:
> > > "To The People of Texas:
> > > "As there has been so much aid by the people of the State
> > > regarding my operations, and as many know not of what they
> > > speak -- attributing to me motives that are false -- I take
> > > this occasion of enlightening the law abiding citizens as to
> > > what I have done, and why I did it. About the first of June
> > > I was duly summoned by the military authorities, through
> > > Captain C S Bell, special officer, to assist in arresting
> > > desperadoes in Texas known as the 'Taylor party.' We found
> > > the party near the rancho of Mr Creed TAYLOR, and attempted
> > > to arrest them. We succeeded in wounding one, Spencer by
> > > name, the other effecting an escape. I now proceeded in
> > > company with Bell to the city of Austin, where I received
> > > emphatic orders to arrest the party. On my return home I
> > > found that about forty had collected, in open defiance of
> > > the law, determined to resist the legal authorities of the
> > > State. I immediately proceeded to summon good citizens to
> > > assist me in the capture. The sheriff of DeWitt County,
> > > James Francis BLAIR, accompanied me, myself being deputy
> > > sheriff. Both our lives had been threatened by these
> > > desperadoes, as well as the lives of all those cooperating
> > > with me for their arrest. Mr. JACOBS, the sheriff of Goliad
> > > County, had just been killed by members of this same party.
> > > Finding that I was ready and determined on action, they
> > > divided, separating in squads of from five to fifteen. I
> > > proceeded in pursuit of the strongest of these bands,
> > > commanded by Jim BELL, a noted desperado of DeWitt County.
> > > I succeeded in capturing him and more, who were afterwards
> > > killed in attempting to escape from the authorities.
> > >
> > > "About this time the PEACES - the murderers of JACOBS - were
> > > arrested but subsequent effected an escape. One STAPP was
> > > killed in attempting to do so. The PEACES proceeded to the
> > > rancho of JOHN CHOATE, in San Patricio County, stating to
> > > CHOATE that they were pursued by a 'vigilance committee,'
> > > and that they came to him for protection. JOHN CHOATE now
> > > went to the ranch of Joe TUMLINSON of DeWitt County, fifty
> > > or seventy-five miles from his home, and informed Captain
> > > TUMLINSON that he had left the Peace boys at his house, and
> > > that he had loaned them one hundred and fifty dollars with
> > > which to effect an escape to Galveston. CHOATE insisted
> > > that TUMLINSON should join him; said he had a band well
> > > fortified at his house, fully able to whip Jack HELM
> > > anywhere. CHOATE also avered that HELM was a d_ _ d rascal,
> > > and had joined the Yankees for popularity, and that he could
> > > not raise over thirty men, and they only Dutch and Yankees.
> > > TUMLINSON told CHOATE that he knew HELM to be a good man,
> > > acting under proper authority, and that he intended to
> > > co-operate with him; that he knew the PEACES to be murderers
> > > and thieves; that he had hunted them, and would do so again.
> > > Becoming convinced that Joe TUMLINSON was not his man,
> > > CHOATE proceeded to the ranch of Creed TAYLOR, about fifty
> > > miles distant, where he remained about three days, when he
> > > came to the neighborhood of Yorktown, in company with four
> > > or five desperadoes, Hayes TAYLOR among the number. CHOATE
> > > now sent word to TUMLINSON if he did not join him he would
> > > be killed, and that the Yankees had offered twelve hundred
> > > dollars reward for him, for the supposed killing of STAPP.
> > > TUMLINSON replied that if he had done anything wrong he was
> > > willing to surrender to the proper authorities of his
> > > country, but would have nothing to do with CHOATE or any of
> > > his gang. CHOATE replied that TUMLINSON must risk the
> > > consequences of his folly. CHOATE now went by the house of
> > > Jim BELL, and took the clothing and other effects of the
> > > PEACE boys to his house in San Patricio County. Here he met
> > > the PEACES, FULCORD, the BROOLANS, DOUGHTYS, GORMANS,
> > > PERRYS, and about forty two others, all known desperadoes,
> > > and many having indictments against them for thieving.
> > > CHOATE informed them that Jack HELM would be upon them, and
> > > that they must prepare for a fight. The house was fortified
> > > and put in condition for a regular siege, having loop-holes
> > > cut on all sides and secret passages connecting from room to
> > > room. They had one keg of powder, five hundred shotgun
> > > cartridges, two hundred Spencer rifle cartridges,
> > > preparations for receiving five hundred gallons of water,
> > > provisions, and all that was necessary for conducting a
> > > siege fifty days for fifty men. I had with me one hundred
> > > and twenty-five of the best citizens of the country.
> > > Arriving at CHOATE's a little after day, expecting to have a
> > > fight one hundred desperadoes, I immediately proceeded to
> > > carry the house by storm. I had one man killed and two
> > > wounded in the attack. CROCKETT and JOHN CHOATE were
> > > killed, and two others wounded. CHOATE perfidiously
> > > attempted to shoot me after he had surrendered, and was
> > > killed by myself in defense of my lie. I now made all
> > > necessary preparations for interring the dead, which was
> > > done. And right here let me nail to the counter those lies
> > > that allege that my men disturbed any of Mrs CHOATE's
> > > property or the property of any one else. They did no such
> > > thing. I encamped in the neighborhood of San Patricio, and
> > > conferred with Captain SMITH at Corpus Christi. I now
> > > proceeded to Yorktown, and sent a report to Helena. I was
> > > met at Yorktown by C S BELL, and disbanded my force until I
> > > could find out the whereabouts of the Taylors. Spent three
> > > days in this matter, collected my men about twenty-five, and
> > > proceeded to the forks of the San Antonio and Guadalupe
> > > rivers, where I succeeded in arresting the HOGANS, who were
> > > members of the same party. I now sent the prisoners to
> > > Helena under charge of Tom FLEMMING and six others. I then
> > > proceeded in pursuit of the TAYLORS. At Yorktown I met
> > > Bell, and detailed fifteen men to accompany him, stating to
> > > the boys that Captain BELL was a good and true man, and
> > > would lead them. I remained in camp with the remainder of
> > > my men, to attract attention while BELL could operate. The
> > > next morning I took up the line of march for Creed TAYLOR's,
> > > followed by one hundred men. I proceeded by a circuitous
> > > route up the Sandies, arresting al persons that I
> > > suspicioned, and cutting off all means of escape. I arrived
> > > within seven miles of the house, when I received
> > > intelligence of the fight with the TAYLORS. I here disbanded
> > > my men, after complimenting them for their orderly conduct,
> > > gentlemanly bearing, and devotion to the law of the country.
> > > Taking ten men, I proceeded to Helena, where I met Majors
> > > CROSLAND and CALLAHAN, Lieutenant THOMPSON, and other
> > > gentlemen, who approved of all I had done.
> > >
> > > "I and my men are ready at all times to act with the legal
> > > authorities of my country in the enforcement of law and
> > > suppression of crime. I am a citizen of DeWitt County --
> > > deputy sheriff -- and am opposed to mob law; but I am ready
> > > to give assistance to the authorities, either civil or
> > > military, to arrest thieves and desperadoes who defy the
> > > laws, either in Texas or any other part of the United
> > > States, regardless of all threats, and the desperado my
> > > enemy, which is the only guaranty that I desire to know Thai
> > > I am right. JACK HELM."
> > >
> > > A newspaper reporter identified only as 'A.H.B.', provided a
> > > version of the vigilante work of the spring of 1869 which
> > > was printed in the San Antonio Daily Express. By reputation
> > > CHOATE entertained men at his ranch of 'more than doubtful
> > > character' and HELM sent him word that 'he would shelter
> > > whom he pleased' and if HELM did pay a visit 'They would be
> > > warmly received.' The result was that HELM and Company did
> > > pay the CHOATES a visit. CROCKETT CHOATE reportedly killed
> > > one of the vigilantes and wounded several before he himself
> > > was killed. Another CHOATE companion was SKIDMORE and he
> > > was seriously wounded. JOHN CHOATE was willing to surrender
> > > if terms could be arranged and stepped onto the porch for
> > > that purpose, Mrs. CHOATE's arms around him. The talk
> > > turned to shooting but "...being encumbered by his wife's
> > > embrace he failed to draw in time. The clear shots from HELM
> > > and TUMLINSON's pistols rang out and Mrs. CHOATE held
> > > nothing but her husband's corpse.
> > >
> > > "F.O. SKIDMORE, the visitor, also left an account of the
> > > bloody August 3rd. He described himself as an intimate
> > > friend of the family, relating how the HELM party charged
> > > the house at daybreak. One KUYKENDALL of the HELM party was
> > > shot by CROCKETT CHOATE. HELM informed Mrs. CHOATE that
> > > anyone who wished to surrender could and they would not be
> > > harmed." but when the battle was over, CROCKETT CHOATE
> > > and his 51 year old cousin were both dead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Judy W. found this additional information:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrefugi/brands01.htm
Refugio County, TX.
Registered Owners of Brands
Book A, Pages 1 through 5
Book A, Page 1 Date Registered
Choate, John Aug. 12, 1856
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrefugi/Marriages04.htm
Marriages
The following marriages have been abstracted from handwritten record
books in Refugio County.
Book A - Pages 41 through 50
Pg - 45
Groom - John Choate
Resident of - San Patricio County
Bride - Miss Catherine A. Dickey
Resident of - San Patricio County
Date Married - 15 May 1865
Performed by - Wm. P. McGrew, Chief Justice of Refugio County
Other Information - Filed 16 May 1865
Hi all,
This appeared on the McCurtain Oklahoma list. Roberson Choate marries Hattie
Wesley 1910s. I don't have the faintest idea who he is, besides being a
Southern Choate cousin I imagine...Hope someone was looking for a missing
sibling!
Janet Hunter
=====================================================================
Source: OKMCCURT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [OKMCCURT] McCurtain County folks went to Pushmataha County to get
married
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Classification: Marriage
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SaB.2ACI/1445
Message Board Post:
Hi McCurtain County,
I am transcribing marriage records at Pushmataha County, Oklahoma. There is
so many grooms & brides who are from McCurtain County, who traveled to
Pushmataha County to get married. Here is list of names who got married in
Pushmataha County. To find out more, please visit Pushmataha Archive site.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/pushmataha/marriages/marriages.html
This is from Book 3, 1916-1919.
AUSTIN, Felker - Miss Ida Tims
BALENTINE, J. B. - Miss Era Williams
CEPHAS, Wilbon - Miss May Lina McKenzie
CRADDOCK, J. W. - Miss Delia Hill
EDWARDS, J. O. - Miss Katherine Sessions
FORBES, William E. - Mrs. Tama Taylor
HARRISON, T. - Miss Inez G. Spencer
HOLLEY, W. E. - Miss Panny Marie Hill
LOMAN, Miss Annie - George Lowe
SAMIS, Miss Litty - Ellias Noah
THORNTON, Mrs. American - J. R. Corry
WESLEY, Mrs. Hattie - Roberson Choate
I am sure there are more in Book 1, 1907-1912 and Book 2, 1912-1916. I am
letting you know so you can be aware of this. On Pushmataha Archive, the
marriage records is on-line...from 1907 to 1919. Keep this in mind in case
other researchers is hunting for the marriage license.
Sincerely,
Teresa Young
Pushmataha County
I read once of a Choate who was captured while fighting in the war for Texas independence. He was sentenced to be executed before a Mexican firing squad but was released after he gave a Masonic sign of distress. Does anyone know the full name of this Choate?
Doyle T. Brittain
Hi Doyle
I don't know about a Choate, but I do know that there is a similar story about Santa Anna. After he was captured, most wanted to hang him. He also gave a Masonic sign and Houstin and the others let him go.
There is a story about the Civil War, but it concerns the Withrow family. One of the brothers was "slow", and an officer mistreated him. I don't remember off-hand if the other brothers killed the officer or just hit him. One was taken prisioner, and at some
time, the tent was slit, and a horse was waiting for him.
Barbara
"Doyle T. Brittain" wrote:
> I read once of a Choate who was captured while fighting in the war for Texas independence. He was sentenced to be executed before a Mexican firing squad but was released after he gave a Masonic sign of distress. Does anyone know the full name of this Choate?
>
> Doyle T. Brittain
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I know I put this link up for you all after Judy W sent it to me
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ammons/ChampionChoate.htm
It's very well-written and has some information I've never seen before.
But do be careful. The author did not properly cite his sources and was
rather careless in how he referenced some of them. I know he took some
information directly from my own webpage and did not even credit it, but
tried to use my source as his own, still without proper citation. I
did write to him, but got a rather haughty reply suggesting that I knew
nothing about "newspapers" and that I should be "genuinely grateful that
(he) would take enough interest to make their ancestors known outside
their own families."
This is just one of the things that make me so hesitant to put all my
information on the web. I enjoy sharing with family, new and old. I
dislike it though when someone takes your information and tries to pass
it off as their own. Or puts it on the websites that garner it and then
sell it. (I'm not naming them but there is at least one very notorious
one). Equally, when someone shares their information with me, I ask if
I can put it on my website and I try very hard to give credit to them as
the informants. I don't deny that sometimes I might slip up, but I try
not to.
Oh. He also said the only criticism he got was from me and another
Choate. Guess we Southern Choates still bristle, even if we are a
couple of generations away. *L*
There is more on David Choate at below website, not my line but I do a lot
of Texas research so I see Choate's mentioned frequently.
David Choate Sr.(d. 1845 Harris Co. TX ) & Sarah A.M. Clark Choate (parents
of six Children) > David Choate Jr.( b. 1811 Louisiana - buried Voth, Hardin
County TX )Texas Revolutionary Veteran (Battle of San Jacinto) - Brother ?
Thomas J. Choate
http://www.sanjacinto-museum.org/kemp/v151.html
Hello Cousins,
I pulled out of the archives some interesting information on David Choate I
posted two years ago, early on the Brazos River...I'll just paste it in.
Speaks for itself. Janet Hunter
CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 3)
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:48:30 -0500
From: Janet Hunter <JHunter(a)ibgc.com>
To: CHOATE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: TX -- Dewitt Colony -- David Choate
Fellow Choate Researchers, Especially Texans:
In looking around for my children's paternal ancestors from Gonzales TX I
somehow or other hit upon this wonderful website for early Texas pioneers --
Sons of Dewitt Colony. It has more links, more documents, more everything
than I've seen on similar sites, but then I primarily just research in
VA,MD,TN, and NC, I don't really get around much.
This is the URL:http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/dewitt.htm
It has a great search engine, in the left hand frame for any names (scroll
down to search).
The following what I found when I looked for Choates. Three entries. The
last two referred to David Choate Jr, part of the forces at the Battle of
San Jacinto. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THIS DAVID?
This item was from the Reminiscences of Dilue Rose Harris. It is REAL
interesting. It refers to a Mr. Choate, who seems to be quite a good fellow
(maybe from the North <grin>), First, he cautions against "disarming the
garrison". Second, it says he is real popular because he has lots of
daughters (therefore lots of suitors for the daughters I assume). It says
he needs a bigger wagon to take them around. He sounds like a regular
fellow. Wonder if he is the David at the Battle of San Jacinto a few months
later?
<begin insert of excerpt>
June, 1835.-School and War. School commenced the first of June. There were
only ten pupils, three girls, six boys and one young man, Harvey Stafford.
The teacher boarded around among the neighbors. We had been going to school
two weeks when there was another excitement. Father went to Harrisburg and
found the men making threats against the garrison at Anahuac. Mr. Andrew
Briscoe had a large stock of goods there, and it was the chief port of entry
east of the Brazos. Captain Tenorio, the Mexican custom house officer, would
not allow him to sell goods without a permit from the custom house. When
father left Harrisburg the men and boys were drilling and threatening to
disarm the garrison. Mr.CHOATE, Dave Harris, and father advised them not to
do it, as Stephen F. Austin was a prisoner in Mexico, and it might endanger
his life.
December, 1835. Everything was at a standstill and times very gloomy. The
Brazo river was so low the steamboat couldn't go up. She was to go to
Groce's ferry to a little town called Washington. There were two towns in
Austin's colony named Washington, one above San Felipe, the other on
Galveston bay. There was a new girl baby at our house born the fifth of the
month. Sister and I were very happy over the babe. Brother Granville and the
two orphan boys teased us and said we couldn't go to see the steamboat or
attend the ball, but we were so pleased with our little sister that we did
not care. Father said he was very proud of his four daughters, and that he
would be as popular as Mr. Choate when they were grown. Mr. CHOATE had
seven daughters, three of them married. Father said his only trouble was to
get a wagon to haul his daughters around.
<end>
Two other references to:
David Choate, Jr...who served in the 2nd Regiment Volunteers, Third Infantry
Company, Office of Enlisted Men, Battle of San Jacinto, April 21, 1836
Janet Hunter from snowy Alexandria VA (usually emailing from janmim(a)aol.com
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End of CHOATE-D Digest V00 Issue #3
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HISTORY OF DeWITT COUNTY records the following regarding the
above John CHOATE and his cousin Crockett CHOATE and their
involvement in the Taylor-Sutton Feud:
"To The People of Texas:
"As there has been so much aid by the people of the State
regarding my operations, and as many know not of what they
speak -- attributing to me motives that are false -- I take
this occasion of enlightening the law abiding citizens as to
what I have done, and why I did it. About the first of June
I was duly summoned by the military authorities, through
Captain C S Bell, special officer, to assist in arresting
desperadoes in Texas known as the 'Taylor party.' We found
the party near the rancho of Mr Creed TAYLOR, and attempted
to arrest them. We succeeded in wounding one, Spencer by
name, the other effecting an escape. I now proceeded in
company with Bell to the city of Austin, where I received
emphatic orders to arrest the party. On my return home I
found that about forty had collected, in open defiance of
the law, determined to resist the legal authorities of the
State. I immediately proceeded to summon good citizens to
assist me in the capture. The sheriff of DeWitt County,
James Francis BLAIR, accompanied me, myself being deputy
sheriff. Both our lives had been threatened by these
desperadoes, as well as the lives of all those cooperating
with me for their arrest. Mr. JACOBS, the sheriff of Goliad
County, had just been killed by members of this same party.
Finding that I was ready and determined on action, they
divided, separating in squads of from five to fifteen. I
proceeded in pursuit of the strongest of these bands,
commanded by Jim BELL, a noted desperado of DeWitt County.
I succeeded in capturing him and more, who were afterwards
killed in attempting to escape from the authorities.
"About this time the PEACES - the murderers of JACOBS - were
arrested but subsequent effected an escape. One STAPP was
killed in attempting to do so. The PEACES proceeded to the
rancho of JOHN CHOATE, in San Patricio County, stating to
CHOATE that they were pursued by a 'vigilance committee,'
and that they came to him for protection. JOHN CHOATE now
went to the ranch of Joe TUMLINSON of DeWitt County, fifty
or seventy-five miles from his home, and informed Captain
TUMLINSON that he had left the Peace boys at his house, and
that he had loaned them one hundred and fifty dollars with
which to effect an escape to Galveston. CHOATE insisted
that TUMLINSON should join him; said he had a band well
fortified at his house, fully able to whip Jack HELM
anywhere. CHOATE also avered that HELM was a d_ _ d rascal,
and had joined the Yankees for popularity, and that he could
not raise over thirty men, and they only Dutch and Yankees.
TUMLINSON told CHOATE that he knew HELM to be a good man,
acting under proper authority, and that he intended to
co-operate with him; that he knew the PEACES to be murderers
and thieves; that he had hunted them, and would do so again.
Becoming convinced that Joe TUMLINSON was not his man,
CHOATE proceeded to the ranch of Creed TAYLOR, about fifty
miles distant, where he remained about three days, when he
came to the neighborhood of Yorktown, in company with four
or five desperadoes, Hayes TAYLOR among the number. CHOATE
now sent word to TUMLINSON if he did not join him he would
be killed, and that the Yankees had offered twelve hundred
dollars reward for him, for the supposed killing of STAPP.
TUMLINSON replied that if he had done anything wrong he was
willing to surrender to the proper authorities of his
country, but would have nothing to do with CHOATE or any of
his gang. CHOATE replied that TUMLINSON must risk the
consequences of his folly. CHOATE now went by the house of
Jim BELL, and took the clothing and other effects of the
PEACE boys to his house in San Patricio County. Here he met
the PEACES, FULCORD, the BROOLANS, DOUGHTYS, GORMANS,
PERRYS, and about forty two others, all known desperadoes,
and many having indictments against them for thieving.
CHOATE informed them that Jack HELM would be upon them, and
that they must prepare for a fight. The house was fortified
and put in condition for a regular siege, having loop-holes
cut on all sides and secret passages connecting from room to
room. They had one keg of powder, five hundred shotgun
cartridges, two hundred Spencer rifle cartridges,
preparations for receiving five hundred gallons of water,
provisions, and all that was necessary for conducting a
siege fifty days for fifty men. I had with me one hundred
and twenty-five of the best citizens of the country.
Arriving at CHOATE's a little after day, expecting to have a
fight one hundred desperadoes, I immediately proceeded to
carry the house by storm. I had one man killed and two
wounded in the attack. CROCKETT and JOHN CHOATE were
killed, and two others wounded. CHOATE perfidiously
attempted to shoot me after he had surrendered, and was
killed by myself in defense of my lie. I now made all
necessary preparations for interring the dead, which was
done. And right here let me nail to the counter those lies
that allege that my men disturbed any of Mrs CHOATE's
property or the property of any one else. They did no such
thing. I encamped in the neighborhood of San Patricio, and
conferred with Captain SMITH at Corpus Christi. I now
proceeded to Yorktown, and sent a report to Helena. I was
met at Yorktown by C S BELL, and disbanded my force until I
could find out the whereabouts of the Taylors. Spent three
days in this matter, collected my men about twenty-five, and
proceeded to the forks of the San Antonio and Guadalupe
rivers, where I succeeded in arresting the HOGANS, who were
members of the same party. I now sent the prisoners to
Helena under charge of Tom FLEMMING and six others. I then
proceeded in pursuit of the TAYLORS. At Yorktown I met
Bell, and detailed fifteen men to accompany him, stating to
the boys that Captain BELL was a good and true man, and
would lead them. I remained in camp with the remainder of
my men, to attract attention while BELL could operate. The
next morning I took up the line of march for Creed TAYLOR's,
followed by one hundred men. I proceeded by a circuitous
route up the Sandies, arresting al persons that I
suspicioned, and cutting off all means of escape. I arrived
within seven miles of the house, when I received
intelligence of the fight with the TAYLORS. I here disbanded
my men, after complimenting them for their orderly conduct,
gentlemanly bearing, and devotion to the law of the country.
Taking ten men, I proceeded to Helena, where I met Majors
CROSLAND and CALLAHAN, Lieutenant THOMPSON, and other
gentlemen, who approved of all I had done.
"I and my men are ready at all times to act with the legal
authorities of my country in the enforcement of law and
suppression of crime. I am a citizen of DeWitt County --
deputy sheriff -- and am opposed to mob law; but I am ready
to give assistance to the authorities, either civil or
military, to arrest thieves and desperadoes who defy the
laws, either in Texas or any other part of the United
States, regardless of all threats, and the desperado my
enemy, which is the only guaranty that I desire to know Thai
I am right. JACK HELM."
A newspaper reporter identified only as 'A.H.B.', provided a
version of the vigilante work of the spring of 1869 which
was printed in the San Antonio Daily Express. By reputation
CHOATE entertained men at his ranch of 'more than doubtful
character' and HELM sent him word that 'he would shelter
whom he pleased' and if HELM did pay a visit 'They would be
warmly received.' The result was that HELM and Company did
pay the CHOATES a visit. CROCKETT CHOATE reportedly killed
one of the vigilantes and wounded several before he himself
was killed. Another CHOATE companion was SKIDMORE and he
was seriously wounded. JOHN CHOATE was willing to surrender
if terms could be arranged and stepped onto the porch for
that purpose, Mrs. CHOATE's arms around him. The talk
turned to shooting but "...being encumbered by his wife's
embrace he failed to draw in time. The clear shots from HELM
and TUMLINSON's pistols rang out and Mrs. CHOATE held
nothing but her husband's corpse.
"F.O. SKIDMORE, the visitor, also left an account of the
bloody August 3rd. He described himself as an intimate
friend of the family, relating how the HELM party charged
the house at daybreak. One KUYKENDALL of the HELM party was
shot by CROCKETT CHOATE. HELM informed Mrs. CHOATE that
anyone who wished to surrender could and they would not be
harmed." but when the battle was over, CROCKETT CHOATE
and his 51 year old cousin were both dead.
OK - I've made a webpage for Choate cemeteries. You can access it from
the main page at
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/chatmondieu/index.html
Look under Cemeteries and click on the name.
Or you can go directly to the site:
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/chatmondieu/CemChoate.html
If anyone has cemetery listings for any Choates (Southern) that they
would like me to put on that page, let me know. I"ll be glad to do it,
and reference your name.
Barbara
Judy W. supplied the following information:
She found this website that speaks of the murder of two Choates:
http://www.theoutlaws.com/lawmen3.htm
"Jack Helms, the inept Captain from the old State Police and staunch
supporter of Bill Sutton, was the District United States Marshal at the
time. He was as mean a snake as ever lived. Back during the Civil War,
he killed a black man for merely whistling a Yankee song, and in San
Patricio County in July 1869, he murdered Taylor men John Choate and his
nephew Crockett Choate. As Marshal, he appointed as his deputy, a
cattleman named Joe Tumlinson to help end the range wars in the local
area. Tumlinson was also a friend of Bill Suttons, and in his ambition,
he allowed a band of men calling themselves "Tumlinsons Regulators" to
kill a cattleman friend of Buck Taylors. Ironically, Tumlinson was also
related to the Taylors through marriage, and this betrayal of kin
prompted Buck Taylors cousin, John Wesley Hardin, to shoot Jack Helms
dead in the streets of Albuquerque, Texas in July 1873."
I suspect that Crockett Choate might actually be John Crockett Choate,
son of Stokely & Prudence Choate:
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/chatmondieu/ChoateSD1800.html
Stokely D. Choate (Son of Christopher & Prudence Choate)
b.c. 1800 Tennessee
d. Texas
m.c.1821 Prudence Dora Choate
b.c. 1803 Tennessee
d. Texas
Children:
1. James Monroe Choate
b 28 April 1822 Tennessee
d 9 Aug 1899 Karnes Co., Texas
m. (1) 2 June 1844 Tishomingo Co., Mississippi
Mary Elizabeth Atkinson
b. 24 April 1820 Miss
d. 26 June 1868 Karnes County Texas
m. (2). c. 1869 Mrs. Ellen C. Avant Borroum
2. Thomas Choate
b.c. 1825 Tennessee
3. Jane Choate
b.c. 1830
m. John R. Trimble
b 1827 Kentucky
4. Cinai Choate
b.c. 1833 Tennessee
5. Parollee Choate
b.c. 1838 Mississippi
6. John Crockett Choate
b.c. 1841 Mississippi (twin)
7. Sarah Choate
b.c. 1841 Mississippi (twin)
I have no idea who the Uncle John Choate would be. Perhaps one of
Stokely's brothers?
Anyway, Judy W found their gravesites. I don't like to "publish" an
e-mail address so openly, but I don't mind redirecting inquiries to
her. She has photos of the two graves. The inscriptions read per
Judy:
The first is the grave of John Choate. There us no actual headstone,
but on the top cover of John Choate's grave is written:
"SACRED
TO THE MEMORY OF
JOHN CHOATE
Who was born in the State of Louisiana
on the 25th dat of July A.D. 1818
and was Killed
at his residence in
San Patricio Co. Texas
on the 3rd day of August A.D. 1869"
[Then there is an icon representing the Masons]
Below that it says:
"A good man and true has gone to his rest.
He was an affectionate husband,
a good neighbor,
a warm friend and a zealous Mason."
and below that it reads:
"this simple tribute to his membory
was erected by his wife who of all, esteemed
him most for his many virtues."
The second grave was that of Crockett Choate. Again there is no
headstone. The writing on the top cover of the grave reads:
"SACRED
TO THE MEMORY
OF
CROCKETT CHOATE
Who was born in the State of Texas A.D. 1842
and was killed
at the residence of his cousin in
San Patricio Co Texas;
on the third day of August A.D. 1869."
Below that was written:
" This tells of a grave by the dashing wave,
A fond friens lip that did quiver,
Of an eye that's hid by a leaden lid,
and a voice now still forever.
I'm going to put the pictures on a page on my website, along with the
inscriptions and a quotation. I'll let y'all know when it's done.
Barbara
These are great sites with lots of information. If you go to the second
URL (Quick Facts) you will find a US map. By clicking on a state, you
will be taken to another page with quick facts about that state. In the
upper left portion, there is a little link titled "view map".
Clicking on this brings you to a state map with the counties. At the
bottom left of that page, there is a link that tells you "Printing this
map". That brings you to the third URL and the maps are good and
readable.
http://www.census.gov/index.html
US Census Bureau
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/
State & County QuickFacts
Quick, easy access to facts about people, business, and geography
US Census state maps with counties
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/printmaps.html
Printing state maps
QuickFacts state maps are specifically designed to maximize on-line
clarity. They are large and include text that is easy to read.
Although most maps will print on an 8.5 by 11 inch paper with a standard
printer, some are too large and won't fit on a single pice of paper.
Use this table to determine the best page orientation for printing a
specific map. Some maps have been scaled for printing, though there is
a loss of clarity.
These marriages are from Old Greer County, surrounding counties in
Oklahoma Territory & Texas, and far-flung states - they all are
mentioned briefly or in full story in an Old Greer County newspaper.
Some are Greer County marriages that were recorded in Greer County
courthouse 1898-1901 and which records burned in court office fire
December 1901.
MS=Mangum Star; SM=Sun Monitor; GRWS=Greer County Weekly.
The microfilmed Newspapers are at Margaret Carder Library, Mangum,
Oklahoma and Oklahoma Historical Society, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/greerotmarrc.html
Choat, A. H. Copeland, Roda SM, May 5, 1904
Choat, W. H. Pruett, Aela SM, May 1904