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Subject: Re: CHOATE-D Digest V01 #65
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Hi List,
Looking for CHOATE family. Some names below.
Father
RICHARD W. CHOATE (Great-Grandfather) Sheiff of Cass County,.Texas, 1887
Son WILLIS CHOATE (TEXAS/ OKLAHOMA)
Daughter MATTIE CHOATE (DUNN) (My Grandmother) Born Cass County, Texas
Married WILLIAM FORBES DUNN 1 (Fayetteville, Arkansas Family)
Any help on Family Members appreciated. Email me off list if necessary.
Thanks,
Marilyn Dunn Carothers
cmantiques(a)aol.com
DUNN BARTON EDMUNDS GRAHAM TATUM CHOATE CAROTHERS
Dec., 18, 2001
Is there any where I could find the 1880 census for all the counties in TN.
Elbert Emeline Choate/Choat born 1864/65 was living in TN in 1850 but I have
no idea where. She gave birth to a child Charles in 1883. I don't know it
she had married a Choate, or it that is her maiden name. She was born in KY
gone in 1880 census and back in KY with the child in 1885. I would very much
appreciate any help or info. I've been searching for yrs, have just now
found out about the child.
Thank you for your time.
Dodie
I have found this may be my grandmothers name rather than Emily.
This newest information says she was born in KY. Around 1864-65 But this all
I can find out. If any one can find her I would appreciate so very much.
Dodie
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"We must always fight for what we believe in.We must never tire in our
fight. It does not really matter how we fight, what matters is what we are
fighting for."
Dino Butler, American Indian Movement
http://www.setaim.com/http://community.webtv.net/hugomama/HHNIPhttp://www.freepeltier.org/
Below website has an interesting report of Choate Ghosts.The home is listed
on the National Register of Historic Places.
Choate House 9600 Liberty Road Randallstown Maryland
http://www.marylandghosts.com/locations/baltimore.shtml
In answer to your question, I went to google.com and searched using
Magothy. Here is what I found.
>>The Magothy River is relatively small, measuring only six miles in length.
It is located in northern Anne Arundel County between the larger Patapsco
River to the north and Severn to the south. <<
I also have a great interest in this information. I have spent a fair amount of
time searching through some map resources representing the Magothy River area on
the Chesapeake Bay, but with no specific results. I hope someone else has had
more luck.
I look forward to the possibility of further geographical details that any of
our Choate cousins might provide,
Julia Choate Martinroe
jleehunt1(a)aol.com wrote:
> My Choate Cousins,
>
> I'm wondering if any of you have pinpointed the geographical location of
> either Choate's Fancy in Baltimore Co MD, or where ever in Anne Arundel Co
> Maryland (assuming he actually lived rather than just disembarked) that
> Christopher Choate the immigrant in the 1660s lived?
>
> At the moment my genealogy obsession is to "go see" the places my ancestors
> lived and since in live in Northern Virginia this is not an impossibility.
>
> I am also interested in any documentation for Elizabeth (not Flora) Hawkins
> who is said to be the wife of Edward Choate Sr. who died ca 1815 in Robertson
> Co TN.
>
> Thanks in advance. I'll take pictures if I can find it!!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Janet (Baugh) Hunter -- Christopher>??>??>Edward Sr. & Elizabeth
> Hawkins>Edward Jr.>Gabriel & Lucy Webb>Powhatan>Lucinda & Henry Bird>Casselia
> Bird & Wm Marsh>Lucy Marsh & Charles Sexton, my grandparents of Dade Co TN
>
Janet,
From the book titled "The Choate Family of Baltimore Co., Maryland" by J.
C. Phillips, I found the following descriptions of the Choate properties
"Christopher Choate II was also born in Ann Arundel County about 1685 near
the Magothy River. By 1706 he (NOTE: Speaking of Christopher I) had moved
across Chesapeak bay to Patapsco Parish near Colgate Creek where in 1715 in
St. Paul's Church he married one Flora."
"It is not known exactly when Christopher's term of service ended but he was
apparently a "freedman" by 1681, for on August 9th of that year an official
survey was made for eleven acres, called Choates His Chance, lying in Ann
Arundel County on the south side of the Magothy River at Little Piny Neck
Point in the Manor of Ann Arundel. (Pat. Dock. Vol. 21, f. 352, MHR). This
was a very desirable location since the river not only provided fish and
water fowl, but the all important means of transporation...By the early
1860's Christopher married, although the name of his wife is unknown and
became the father of two sons; Christopher II (b. abt. 1685) and Edward (b.
abt 1687). He died intestate in Ann Arundel Countin in 1692. The inventory
and appraisment of the estate is as follows...."
"The two boys, however, eventually moved to Baltimore County, their names
being found on Tax List 115, Upper Part, Northside Patapsco in 1706. This
tax district included the area where St. Paul's Church had built a small red
brick Parish House called Patapsco, at the head of Colgate Creek, only a few
miles from the future site of Baltimroe Town. Both brothers must have lived
in the general vicinity of the Parish House for they are listed in its
records from 1716 to 1735."
"Three years later, on August 18, 1722, Richard Gist, Merchant, of Baltimore
County, sold to Christopher Choate (II), planter, a tract of 108 acres called
Choate's Fancy, being parts of two tracts, that is one part of Green Springs
Traverse and one part Street's Advanture."
"After disposing of Choates Fancy in 1742, Christopher II joined with William
Hall, who was in possession of fifty acres in Baltimore County called Hall's
Approach, in a swine raising venture, the tract being too small for tobacco
planting...After several years this undertaking ended on July 7th 1745 with
the sale by William Hall and Christopher Choate...The wives, Mary Hall and
Flora Choate, confirmed release of their interest. It is quite likely that
Hall was the son-in-law of Christopher Choate whose daughter, Mary, would
have been nearly twenty-one years of age in 1745. The sale of Hall's
Approach is the final record of Christopher II and Flora Choate in Maryland."
Christopher's (II) son Augustine purchase Choate's Contrivance -- "When he
was a few months shy of twenty-one years of age, he obtained a grant from
Charles Lord Baltimore, dated July 25th 1737, of one hundred acres in
Baltimore County called Choate's Contrivance, located by a great glade and
near a run commonly known and called by the name of the Horse Head Branch or
Glade. This small stream flowed into a much larger one nearby called Gwins
Falls...The above described location of Choate's Contrivance would indicate
it was near, if not a part of the NW section of the property on which
McDonogh School was established in 1850..."
Edward purchased a tract of land from Richard Gist in 1718 when he was about
29. "Edward obtained a warrant for fifty acres of land and at the same time
got an assignment for another fifty acres out of a tract of two hundred fifty
held by Richard Gist. This tract of one hundred acres Edward named Choate's
Delight....in which the tract is described as lying in Baltimore County on
the south end of a ridge and on the Northeast side of a run descending into
Jones Falls know by the name of North Run. The Baltimore County Atlas of
1877 shows this location to be in the 3rd District about one half mile north
of Stevenson."
These discription of land doesn't give exact locations, but it may help in
pinpointing where the properties were. I have copies of the microfilmed
copies that I obtained from the Maryland Archives.
I also just noticed something that may be of interest to your regarding
Edward and Elizabeth Choat. It mentions that Edward (son of Christopher
Choat II) married Constant (No maiden name). Constant and Edward had a son
Edward, Jr. Constant left Edward and he remarried Elenore Savage. It states
Edward Jr. married Elizabeth Underwood who was one of the heirs to the estate
of her deceased father Samuel Underwood. It then cites a document mentioning
the Underwood family. Edward, Jr. owned the property called Buck Range
which later became part of the Pemberton property. "The old Pemberton
homestead was in the 2nd Dist. Balto. Cty. Md. lying along the old Liberty
Road on the north; on the west the Pemberton property adjoined the land of
the late Edward S. W. Choate; on the east adjoined the land of the late
Robert Breckenridge Chapman; on opposite or north side of Liberty Road is the
land once belonging to Isaiah Odell who died about 1847...From the above
description Buck Range was located about half a mile west of the present
village of Randallstown (in 1979)...In any event, after the sale of Buck
Range to Henry Pemberton in July 1754, Edward, Jr. and his wife Elizabeth
moved to Bedford County, VA not far from his uncle Christopher Choate, Jr.
who settled in Lunenburg County (from which Bedford had been carved) in 1742.
Maybe the maiden name of Elizabeth was not Hawkins, but Underwood. If you
are interested, I can make a copy of this Chapter and mail it to you.
Shawn Martin
My Choate Cousins,
I'm wondering if any of you have pinpointed the geographical location of
either Choate's Fancy in Baltimore Co MD, or where ever in Anne Arundel Co
Maryland (assuming he actually lived rather than just disembarked) that
Christopher Choate the immigrant in the 1660s lived?
At the moment my genealogy obsession is to "go see" the places my ancestors
lived and since in live in Northern Virginia this is not an impossibility.
I am also interested in any documentation for Elizabeth (not Flora) Hawkins
who is said to be the wife of Edward Choate Sr. who died ca 1815 in Robertson
Co TN.
Thanks in advance. I'll take pictures if I can find it!!
Best Regards,
Janet (Baugh) Hunter -- Christopher>??>??>Edward Sr. & Elizabeth
Hawkins>Edward Jr.>Gabriel & Lucy Webb>Powhatan>Lucinda & Henry Bird>Casselia
Bird & Wm Marsh>Lucy Marsh & Charles Sexton, my grandparents of Dade Co TN