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For anyone who might have a Choate member that passed away in TX (DFW area) you
can go here and check it out. There are about 181 hits and it is a free search until June 1st.
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3424.htm
thanks for the tip...I got four pages of bride andgroom info in about 30 sec.
Joe Matlock
>>> <casey(a)nstar.net> 05/25/00 08:16AM >>>
This state has done a super job and hopefully, the other states may someday get onboard to
do similar things. There are numerous marriage certificates in IL for the Choate name at this
location. Illinois has many marriage certificates on-line (but not all
- read the fine print) in a searchable database at:
http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/marriage.html
I know this has got to help a lot of people. And our many thanks to Marcia Holpuch in the
Casey Genealogy group for sharing this info................Bev
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This state has done a super job and hopefully, the other states may someday get onboard to
do similar things. There are numerous marriage certificates in IL for the Choate name at this
location. Illinois has many marriage certificates on-line (but not all
- read the fine print) in a searchable database at:
http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/marriage.html
I know this has got to help a lot of people. And our many thanks to Marcia Holpuch in the
Casey Genealogy group for sharing this info................Bev
I found this on something else
The Story of Gregorio Cortez
Gregorio Cortez was a farmer who lived with his brother Romuldo. Romuldo
owned two sorrel mares. One was lame and the other was fit. A local Texas
rancher kept pressuring him to
sell one of his mares, but Romuldo refused. This angered his neighbor and
when Romuldo rejected his overtures, the white Texan took this as an insult.
Mexicans should know their place.
However, Romuldo decided to trick him. He would trade him the lame mare
instead of the healthy one. The Texan was furious at being taken in a horse
trade and demanded that the sheriff do something about it. The sheriff
disregarded the protest but went to the Cortez ranch to ask them about a
reported horse theft.
Gregorio asked his brother to go see what the sheriff wanted and Romuldo told
Gregorio that someone wished to speak with him. One of the posse, a man
called Choate, mistranslated what
Romuldo said to Gregorio. He thought Romuldo said, "You are wanted." Choate
then asked Gregorio if he had recently acquired a horse. Gregorio said no. He
had just gotten a mare, but a mare was not a horse to Gregorio; it was a
mare. Sheriff Morris then informed Gregorio that he was under arrest. Again,
a mistranslation occurred, Morris thought he said, "no white man
is going to take me alive." What Gregorio really said was, "you can't arrest
me for doing nothing." Morris drew his weapon as Romuldo charged him. He
fired and the bullet went
right through his mouth. Morris then turned and fired at Gregorio, he missed.
Gregorio shot back and hit the sheriff. Morris crawled to the nearby bushes
and eventually bled to
death. Choate fled the seen and described the incident as an attack by the
"Cortez Gang." This began the chase of Gregorio Cortez.
The newspapers reported that Cortez had headed for the border but Gregorio
had gone north instead. He dropped off his brother and friends and continued
north. A posse headed by
Sheriff Robert Glover soon found the family and proceeded to torture them
until somebody talked. The posse numbered over fifty men and when they
finally reached his friend's house,
they were drunk. Glover charged the building with his guns blazing. Cortez
fired and shot Glover right off his horse. He then hurried into the brushes.
Deputy Swift now entered the house and began firing. The posse heard shots
coming from the house and fired into the house. In the confusion, the posse
began to shoot at each other. Two of the men died and they now grabbed 13
year-old Encarnacion and hung him from a tree until he finally talked.
When they arrived back in town. The posse informed the newspapers that they
had found ten Winchester rifles and a bucket of ammunition. None of this was
true. Cortez now turned
his attention south. He rode and rode, eluding the chasing posse. The posse
now grew to over 800 men. Still they could not find Cortez. Once he walked
right by them. The posse
complained to the press that his gang was supplying Cortez with fresh horses
so he had an advantage. All across Texas any crime that happened was blamed
on the "Cortez Gang."
The San Antonio press reported, "The only hope was to fill up the whole
country with men and search every avenue for escape." Finally, Cortez was
captured. The trial and the appeals process lasted 12 long years. Cortez
protested his innocence. He was convicted for the killing one of the posse,
who was actually killed by one of his own men, and later Glover. He was
convicted in the Glover case. Finally, after years of appeals, the Governor
of Texas pardoned him. All Gregorio Cortez had ever asked for was justice. He
died at his wedding at the age of 41. Some say he was poisoned but no one
knows for sure. What we are sure of is, that Gregorio gave them one heck of a
chase.
Thanks for the story. It was fascinating.
After I read it, I looked the story up on the net and found at this site:
http://www.sp.utexas.edu/jrn/gcortez3.html a fuller version of it. This
happened in Karnes Co., Texas in 1900. The Choate mentioned was Boone Choate,
along with Sheriff T. T. (Brack) Morris and John Trimmell. Choate and Trimmell
were deputies.
Barbara
P1TTYPAT(a)aol.com wrote:
> I found this on something else
>
> The Story of Gregorio Cortez
>
> Gregorio Cortez was a farmer who lived with his brother Romuldo. Romuldo
> owned two sorrel mares. One was lame and the other was fit. A local Texas
> rancher kept pressuring him to
> sell one of his mares, but Romuldo refused. This angered his neighbor and
> when Romuldo rejected his overtures, the white Texan took this as an insult.
> Mexicans should know their place.
> However, Romuldo decided to trick him. He would trade him the lame mare
> instead of the healthy one. The Texan was furious at being taken in a horse
> trade and demanded that the sheriff do something about it. The sheriff
> disregarded the protest but went to the Cortez ranch to ask them about a
> reported horse theft.
>
> Gregorio asked his brother to go see what the sheriff wanted and Romuldo told
> Gregorio that someone wished to speak with him. One of the posse, a man
> called Choate, mistranslated what
> Romuldo said to Gregorio. He thought Romuldo said, "You are wanted." Choate
> then asked Gregorio if he had recently acquired a horse. Gregorio said no. He
> had just gotten a mare, but a mare was not a horse to Gregorio; it was a
> mare. Sheriff Morris then informed Gregorio that he was under arrest. Again,
> a mistranslation occurred, Morris thought he said, "no white man
> is going to take me alive." What Gregorio really said was, "you can't arrest
> me for doing nothing." Morris drew his weapon as Romuldo charged him. He
> fired and the bullet went
> right through his mouth. Morris then turned and fired at Gregorio, he missed.
> Gregorio shot back and hit the sheriff. Morris crawled to the nearby bushes
> and eventually bled to
> death. Choate fled the seen and described the incident as an attack by the
> "Cortez Gang." This began the chase of Gregorio Cortez.
>
> The newspapers reported that Cortez had headed for the border but Gregorio
> had gone north instead. He dropped off his brother and friends and continued
> north. A posse headed by
> Sheriff Robert Glover soon found the family and proceeded to torture them
> until somebody talked. The posse numbered over fifty men and when they
> finally reached his friend's house,
> they were drunk. Glover charged the building with his guns blazing. Cortez
> fired and shot Glover right off his horse. He then hurried into the brushes.
> Deputy Swift now entered the house and began firing. The posse heard shots
> coming from the house and fired into the house. In the confusion, the posse
> began to shoot at each other. Two of the men died and they now grabbed 13
> year-old Encarnacion and hung him from a tree until he finally talked.
>
> When they arrived back in town. The posse informed the newspapers that they
> had found ten Winchester rifles and a bucket of ammunition. None of this was
> true. Cortez now turned
> his attention south. He rode and rode, eluding the chasing posse. The posse
> now grew to over 800 men. Still they could not find Cortez. Once he walked
> right by them. The posse
> complained to the press that his gang was supplying Cortez with fresh horses
> so he had an advantage. All across Texas any crime that happened was blamed
> on the "Cortez Gang."
> The San Antonio press reported, "The only hope was to fill up the whole
> country with men and search every avenue for escape." Finally, Cortez was
> captured. The trial and the appeals process lasted 12 long years. Cortez
> protested his innocence. He was convicted for the killing one of the posse,
> who was actually killed by one of his own men, and later Glover. He was
> convicted in the Glover case. Finally, after years of appeals, the Governor
> of Texas pardoned him. All Gregorio Cortez had ever asked for was justice. He
> died at his wedding at the age of 41. Some say he was poisoned but no one
> knows for sure. What we are sure of is, that Gregorio gave them one heck of a
> chase.
>
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He wasn't a Cajun, he was a "Player of the Music Cajun".
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> Subject: Harry Choates
> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:47:37 -0500
> From: Barbara <Sayona(a)TelePath.Com>
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> This is very interesting. The webpage was just sent to me by a
> friend. Does anyone know anything about this particular Choate and why
> they're calling him a Cajun?
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2073/choates.htm
>
> A picture of two tombstones:
>
> 1. Harry H Choates
> Texas
> Pvt Infantry WWII
> 26 Dec 1922 - 17 July 1951
>
> 2. Harry H Choates
> 26 Dec 1922 - 17 July 1951
> "Parain De La Musique Cajun"
This is very interesting. The webpage was just sent to me by a
friend. Does anyone know anything about this particular Choate and why
they're calling him a Cajun?
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2073/choates.htm
A picture of two tombstones:
1. Harry H Choates
Texas
Pvt Infantry WWII
26 Dec 1922 - 17 July 1951
2. Harry H Choates
26 Dec 1922 - 17 July 1951
"Parain De La Musique Cajun"
Hello,
This is my first post to the Choate list, so pardon me if what I submit
is a repeat of something recently posted.
I believe I descend from the Christopher Choate of Baltimore; but rather
than submit the whole descendancy, I am providing just the most recent 4
generations.
Descendants of Richard -7 Choate
1 Richard Choate b: Abt. 08 Nov 1722 ,Baltimore Co, Md.
+Nancy * Choate Unknown b: Abt. 1727
.. 2 Aaron C Choate b: Abt. 1740
.... +Annie * Hubble b: Abt. 1745
.... 3 Richard D Choate b: 09 Feb 1763, Catawba Co, NC
....... +Nellie * Choate McAfee b: Abt. 1776
....... 4 Lucinda Choate b: Abt. 1788
........... +James Barnes b: Abt. 1783
....... 4 Richard D Choate, Jr. b: Abt. 1790 in Catawba Co, NC
........... +Ammy Hamilton b: Abt. 1800
....... 4 Sarah Choate b: Abt. 1792
........... +Jefferson McIntyre b: Abt. 1795
....... 4 Abner Choate b: Abt. 1796
....... 4 Susan Choate b: Abt. 1798 in Fleming Co, KY
........... +Abraham b: Abt. 1793
....... 4 Mary Choate b: Abt. 1813
........... +George Littleton b: Abt. 1808
....... 4 Eliza * Choate b: 12 Aug 1814, Kentucky
........... +Casper Helms Seever b: 30 Jun 1813,
....... 4 Julia Ann Choate b: 27 Jun 1817 in Kentycky
........... +Abraham Logan b: Abt. 1812
.... *2nd Wife of Richard D Choate:
....... +Elizabeth Choat Enix b: Abt. 1768 m: 15 Nov 1831 in Lewis Co,
KY
For brevity, I have omitted the children from Richard's 2nd marriage,
because I descend from Eliza Choate and Casper Helmes Seever, my
GG-Grandparents.
If anyone recognizes any of these names and wishes to exchange
information, please respond.
Terry Bradley
Tillamook, OR