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Some interesting stuff about the Crocketts - with other opinions included - is
found at this web site - it touches on the parentage of Rebecca Hawkins:
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5273/crockett.htm#John5
"John CROCKETT, (David CROCKETT, William CROCKETT, Joseph, Antoine CROCKETAGNE,
Gabriel DE CROCKETAGNE) was born in 1754 in Maryland, and in Of, Washington Co.,
Virginia, married (86) Rebecca HAWKINS, daughter of Nathan HAWKINS and Ruth COLE,
who was born in 1764 in Baltimore Co., Maryland. John died in 1794. Rebecca was
buried in Rutherford, Gibson County, Tennessee.
Mr. Worth S. Ray, author of The Lost Tribes of
North Carolina, in Tennesse Cousins makes the following statement. "John
Crockett, father of David "Davy" Crockett, was the son of Archibald Crockett, who
married a daughter of William King, of Macklenburg Co., NC. Col. Thomas King of
Hawkins Co. Tennessee was an uncle of John Crockett, and brother in law of
Archibald Crockett, the grandfather of David Crockett. The mother of John
Crockett's wife married as her second husband, a man named King, by whom she had
at least one son, William King". He also says "David Crockett's mother was a
Hawkins before her marriage to John Crockett, but she was not, a sister of Sarah
Hawkins who married Govenor John Sevier, as David Crockett certainly would not
have had first cousins old enough to have fought in the battle of King's
Mountain."
There are different accounts as to the connection of Rebecca Hawkins and Sarah
and Jane Hawkins. The Geneology of the LDS registry does not list her as sisters
of the women who married Gen. John Sevier and Richard Campbell. The Greene Co.
Tn History says that Rebecca Hawkins's father was Joseph Hawkins and Anneke Jane
Edwards who came from England and arrived in Virginia in 1658.
There are two opinions about the family of Rebecca Hawkins. The one gaining
popularity is that she was the daughter of Nathan Hawkins & Ruth Cole of
Baltimore. I show Rebecca with 6 brothers and two sisters named Rachel Ruth &
Mary Elizabeth. No Sarah. A good deal of the information in Zella Armstrong's
book has been found to be inaccurate by more modern Crockett researchers. Zella
shows a William Crockett as a son of John & Rebecca Hawkins Crockett. My
ancestor is that William, but bears no resemblance to the information in Zella's
book. I have no idea who her William is nor does anyone else seem to have a
clue. Sorry I don't have any definitive answers for you to help with your
article. The Hawkins family seems to be another of those mysterious areas of
the Crockett family.
Marie Cilluffo "
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This brings up the possibility of another connection: the King family.
"John Crockett, father of David "Davy" Crockett, was the son of Archibald
Crockett, who married a daughter of William King, of Macklenburg Co., NC. Col.
Thomas King of Hawkins Co. Tennessee was an uncle of John Crockett, and brother
in law of Archibald Crockett, the grandfather of David Crockett.""
I've got Kings too.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5455//Darceyetc.html
John King
d 1789 Prince George Co., Maryland
m. Rebeckah Summers
---
John Darcey
b. 1737 Prince George Co., Maryland
d. 1815/1819 Prince George Co., Maryland
m. 1753 Prince George County Maryland
Elizabeth King
b. 1753 Prince George Co., Maryland
d. 1815/1819 Prince George Co., Maryland
---
This all gets very complicated and intermarried in here...but suffice it to say
that through the King, Darnall, Darcey, Summers, Soper lines we get down to
Zerelda Darnall who married a Gersham Cravens, whose daughter, Mariah Antoinette
Cravens married Jason Daugherty... and they all lived in Fannin Co. TX. Again..
the connections for me seem to be through the Daughertys/Cravens, etc.
These are all my mother's paternal ancestors. The Barefoot/Choate lines are my
mother's maternal lines. They seem to be "dancing" around each other in the
same areas, but don't seem to have connected (yet) until they all get to Texas
and then up to Oklahoma - My grandparents met and married 16 Nov 1902 Wynnewood,
Indian Territory (Oklahoma). *smile*
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5455/index.html
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Janmim(a)aol.com wrote:
> Barbara and Choate Cousins:
>
> Last night I thought it was another little improbable story about Davey
> Crockett being a cousin....
>
> Then Barbara puts this in this morning and it all seems VERY Probable that
> Davey actually could well be a cousin:
>
> In a message dated 7/31/99 10:21:09 AM EST, sayona(a)telepath.com writes:
>
> << -----------
> http://hostville.com/family/gen1/d0009/g0000045.html#I38325
> Rebecca HAWKINS
> [31292]
> 1764 - ____
> BIRTH: 1764, Baltimore Co., Maryland
> BURIAL: Rutherford, Gibson Co., Tennessee >>
>
> Recall that Christopher II, son of Christopher I the emigrant, married FLORA
> HAWKINS, son of Augustine Hawkins and Susannah Carr, of Baltimore Co MD.
> This couple moved to Lunenberg. From Irene Choate Williams book, if I recall
> correctly, she pretty much lays the deeds of all of us Choates of the South
> at the doorstep of this couple. While children can't be held accountable for
> the sins of their parents, it doesn't work the other way around (vbg).
>
> I need to go and dig out all of my Hawkins information, of which last summer
> I downloaded and copied everything I could find.
>
> This most certainly justifies a little bit of digging, although unfortunately
> it won't impress my kids that much probably. My son is the only one who is
> interested at all and then only to see if he is related to his current
> heroes: Ewan MacGregor of Star Wars (answer is most likely though could be
> 18th cousin or so); Jonathan Davis bagpipe player/singer of rock group KoRn
> (have struck out here, though my post to the Davis list apparently did get
> some listers' youngsters a moments interest in their parent's "hobby").
>
> Janet Hunter --- My line -- Christopher I>Christopher II and Flora Hawkins> ?
> > maybe another ?> Edward Choate and Elizabeth Chowning> Gabriel Choate and
> Lucy Webb>Powhatan Choate and Winney Haley/Whaley>Lucinda Choate and Henry B.
> Byrd.
Another legend that seems to be debunked by my aunts.
A note written in a book on Davy Crockett by one aunt, Susan D.
Navarro:
"Andrew Thomas swore to the Daughters of the Republic of Texas that he
bought Davy Crockett's rifle when Crockett came through Fannin Co.
James Daugherty, his sons and son-in-law Andrew Thomas swore to the Land
Commissioners that they arrived in Texas in 1837. Crockett was already
dead at the Alamo."
And I just read somewhere that Davy Crockett had left "old Betsey" at
home when he set off for Texas. Of course, I didn't make a note of
where I read it. Blast!
Thanks again, Barbara, for taking the time to look for a connection
between the families. I think sometimes there might be just a little
embellishment each time a story is told, but they have been interesting
stories, and I commend you for trying to get them straight. You add a
lot to the Choate list.
OK. I've stirred up a can of worms, maybe. *smile*
Puzzle #1
Re the story about Davy's mother, Rebecca Hawkins Crockett, dying in
Monroe Choate's home. I really have no idea in the world. I've tried
to look on the internet, but those little tiny details just aren't
there, or I'm not looking in the right places.
The facts as I seem to find them.
1. Rebecca Hawkins was Davy Crockett's mother.. There are two sides
as to who her parents are. That's not the main point here.
2. I can't find a death date for her yet.
http://www.my-ged.com/db/page/hughes/604
Rebecca HAWKINS
b? d Gibson Co. TN
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http://hostville.com/family/gen1/d0009/g0000045.html#I38325
Rebecca HAWKINS
[31292]
1764 - ____
BIRTH: 1764, Baltimore Co., Maryland
BURIAL: Rutherford, Gibson Co., Tennessee
---------------
So, it would seem that Rebecca died in Gibson Co. TN. Now it's up to
James Monroe Choate's descendants.
1. Did Monroe live in Gibson Co. TN?
2. When did he move to Texas?
Now, I'm not implying that a Choate/Barefoot would lie!, but - they
might stretch the truth a little. *grin* Much more likely, a family
legend can be born from a simple statement that is misunderstood or
remembered wrong. Something a child hears, and later repeats as an
adult, maybe considered the complete truth by him/her, but in actual
fact, would be a distortion or misinterpretation of the truth.
Anyway - there's one puzzle for y'all. *grin*
Puzzle #2
Is there any connection at all between the Choate/Barefoot families and
the Crocketts, apart from being neighbors over in Lawrence Co., TN.?
1. Davy Crockett's first wife was a Mary "Polly" Finley
http://hostville.com/family/gen1/d0013/g0000045.html#I38329
Mary Polly FINLEY
[31296]
ABT 1790 - ____
BIRTH: ABT 1790, Tennessee
Father: William FINLEY
Mother: Jean KENNEDY
Family 1 : David CROCKETT
MARRIAGE: 12 Aug 1806, Dandridge, Jefferson Co., Tennessee
1. John Wesley CROCKETT
2. William F. CROCKETT
3. Margaret Finley Polly CROCKETT
------------------
Well, this looks like another "tall-tale". The ONLY connection I can
find so far, is NOT a Choate/Barefoot connection, but rather a possible
Withrow connection:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5455/WithrowFamily.html
Richard Withrow(Son of Richard & Clarissa Clark Withrow)
b. 1829 Warren Co., Tennessee
d. 1889 Copperas Cove, Coryell Co., Texas
m.c. 1855 Elizabeth Withrow (Dau of Robert & Caroline McNairn
Withrow)
b. 22 Feb 1836 Tennessee
d. 4 Jan 1908 Maysville, Oklahoma
Children:
1. Martha Jane Withrow
b. 1856 War Eagle, Arkansas
d. 1876
m. 1872 George Findley
Ch. Logan Findley
3. Nancy Clara Withrow
b. 11 May 1861 War Eagle, Arkansas
d. 24 Apr. 1939 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
m. 19 Jan 1881 Stephenville, Erath Co., Texas
John Wiley Barefoot
====================
Such a late connection too. Nancy Clara/John Wiley are my
g-grandparents. It was Nancy Clara's sister that married a Findley
(the Findleys are also Finleys etc.)
Now, I'm not saying there isn't a connection still further back. I've
just not seen it yet. And I don't have any proof that Grant Findley is
related to Mary "Polly" Finley.
================
Until I have good proof, I'm still going to go with my theory that the
word "cousin" could have been used as a courtesy title, much like
"ma'am", "aunt", and other kinship terms. It would denote a closer
relation than just a person living in the same community, but still not
be a relative. In fact, I ran across something similar in a book last
night:
"Here Comes Elijah"
Frances Dunlap Heron
The Bethany Press, St Louis, MO 1959
p. 54 - "[too be 'Uncle,' 'Aunt,' 'Grandpa,' and 'Grandma' in Richland
(MO) required no blood ties]"
Since the Choates/Barefoots did live in Lawrence Co. TN (at least my
group), and Davy Crockett lived there too, I would be reasonablyy
satisfied that they knew each other. I'd imagine that they even
visited, worked and played together at times. My Barefoot/Choates
went to Bell Co., Texas though. It was the other part of the
family...Daugherty/Pettigrew/Cravens that went to Honey Grove, Fannin
Co. TX (And if I haven't said before, the story is that Davy Crockett
named that place Honey Grove when he was camping there once, because of
the grove was full of honey bees )
=================================================
Barbara and Choate Cousins:
Last night I thought it was another little improbable story about Davey
Crockett being a cousin....
Then Barbara puts this in this morning and it all seems VERY Probable that
Davey actually could well be a cousin:
In a message dated 7/31/99 10:21:09 AM EST, sayona(a)telepath.com writes:
<< -----------
http://hostville.com/family/gen1/d0009/g0000045.html#I38325
Rebecca HAWKINS
[31292]
1764 - ____
BIRTH: 1764, Baltimore Co., Maryland
BURIAL: Rutherford, Gibson Co., Tennessee >>
Recall that Christopher II, son of Christopher I the emigrant, married FLORA
HAWKINS, son of Augustine Hawkins and Susannah Carr, of Baltimore Co MD.
This couple moved to Lunenberg. From Irene Choate Williams book, if I recall
correctly, she pretty much lays the deeds of all of us Choates of the South
at the doorstep of this couple. While children can't be held accountable for
the sins of their parents, it doesn't work the other way around (vbg).
I need to go and dig out all of my Hawkins information, of which last summer
I downloaded and copied everything I could find.
This most certainly justifies a little bit of digging, although unfortunately
it won't impress my kids that much probably. My son is the only one who is
interested at all and then only to see if he is related to his current
heroes: Ewan MacGregor of Star Wars (answer is most likely though could be
18th cousin or so); Jonathan Davis bagpipe player/singer of rock group KoRn
(have struck out here, though my post to the Davis list apparently did get
some listers' youngsters a moments interest in their parent's "hobby").
Janet Hunter --- My line -- Christopher I>Christopher II and Flora Hawkins> ?
> maybe another ?> Edward Choate and Elizabeth Chowning> Gabriel Choate and
Lucy Webb>Powhatan Choate and Winney Haley/Whaley>Lucinda Choate and Henry B.
Byrd.
Thanks , Barbara, for sending some more stories. I enjoyed them a lot.
Since Christopher and John came from the same part of England, I'll bet
if we could go back far enough, we would find a connection.. John's
parents were Robert and Sarah Choate, and I can't find any ancestors
before that. Does anyone have ancestors for Christopher?
Marj
>From p. 192-193 "Barefoot-Withrow Book"
>From "Who's Who in Central, North and Eeast Texas," published between
November, 1910 and March, 1913, by the Forrister History Co., Regan
Printing House, Chicago, Illinois
CHOATE, James Rufus
Mr. J. Rufus Choate, Treasurer of Kaufman County and a man of a
remarkable family record, was born on a farm in the Wolf Creek
neighborhood of Lawrence County, Middle Tennessee, July 27, 1843. His
great grandfather, Thomas Choate, was married to Elizabeth Keeth in
Ireland, and came to America--they being among the earliest Virginia
colonists. He was killed at Old Fort Dinwiddie by the Tories during the
Revolutionary War, and his wife died in Virginia. His grandfather,
Thomas K. Choate, was born and reared in Virginia; was in the war of
1812, and was a soldier in Gen. Andrew Jackson's army when he fought and
won the battle of New Orleans in 1815, and immortalized the American
Army. He was married to Miss Elizabeth Renfro, oof Virginia, and both
died at a ripe age in Lawrence County, MIddle Tennessee. Mr. Choate's
father, Esq. Edward Choate, was born in Virginia in 1818, but reared in
Lawrence County, Tennessee. In the Florida war of 1836, he helped to
drive the Indians out of that state. He was married to Miss Nancy
Atwill, who was born in Virginia but reared in the same neighborhood of
Lawrence County, Tennessee, where she died in 1861. Thirteen children
were born to them, eleven of whom lived to maturity, and as reflection
of those helathy days, "only haad the doctor with two of them." Just
after the Civil War, his wife having died, the fathr migrated to
Johnnson County, Arkansas, where he died in 1882 t the age of
seventy-five, and in which neighborhood there still live many of his
descendants.
When the time came to test the steel of Southern manhood to cross swords
with the North in the CIvil War, Mr. James Rufus Choate showed the
courage that was handed down to him by an ancestry that hadnever failed
to respond to their country's call in time of peril. Elnlisting April
16, 1861 at Wayland Springs, Lawrence County, in Company I, Capt. John
D. Ives, and Forty-eight Tennessee Regiment, Col. George H. Nixon who
was a Mexican war veteran and was in the battle of Monterey. Mr. Choate
experienced service in Tennessee, Kentucy, Mississippi, Alabama,
Georgia, Virginia, North and South Carolina andd was with Gen. Joseph E.
JOhnson near Greensboro, North C. when the surrender came. Was three
times wounded, as follows: In the battle of Perryville, Ky., Oct. 8,
1862, in left leg; batle of Chickamauga, Sept. 20, 1863, brokken thigh
and laid on the the battle field four days and nights without any food
and ony three drinks--two fo water and one of whiskey, the last named
given him by Rev. Williams Qualls, a Baptist minister of Wayne Co.,
Tennessee. Was a third time wounded in the battle of Atlanta, July 28,
1864, and laid out for dead, but he soon afterwards recovered. Mr.
Choate fought under Gen. Albert Sidney Johnson in the battle of Shiloh,
under Gen. Kirby Smiithat Richmond, Ky., ;aug. 13, 1862; under Bragg at
Stone's River and Bellbuckle, and was in all the battles of the Georgia
campaign, and was never out of hearing of the artillery or small arms
from battle of Resaca on May 16 to July 28th, 1864. In 1871 (1870) Mr.
Choate left his Tennessee home, and settled in Kaufman County March 1 of
this same year, where he spent the greater part of his life as a
farmer. On Sept. 19, 1872, he was happily married to Miss Mary Jane
French in this, Kaufman County, but who was born near Florence, North
Alabama, and for thirty-nine years they have fought side by side the
battle of life, blending their joy and tears. They lost three sons in
infancy and have reared four sons and three daughters to strengthen
their lives. Mr. Choate never went to school but four months in his
life--previous to becoming nine years of age--and never had but one
book, that of the old Blue Back Speller, a jewel representative of the
good old days. However, he had the greatest God-given gift to man, that
of a liberal store of good common sense, and being a chosen observer and
a student of affairs in general, absorbed a useful and sufficiennt
education. He informed the writer that he learned most of his academic
education through the methood of instructing his children in their
school lessons, novel as it may seem. Mr. Choate was elected Treasurer
of Kaufman County in November, 1910, for a two-year term, and the
efficient manner in which he is conducting his office affairs, and his
popularity throughout the county among all classes, insures him a
re-election for a second term. Personally Mr Choate is a gentleman of
the highest traits of honor and is one among the most congenial of men,
being a full blooded American Irishman. He and his family worship with
the Christian Church, he is a Past Master Mason, and has been a member
of this, father of all orders, since 1872. While attending the national
gathering of the United Confederate Veterans at Little Rock in the
summer of 1911, Mr. Choate took occasion to attend a family reunion in
Johnson County, of that state, where were gathered sixty-four
descendants, there bing in existence something more than one hundred at
present time. Mr. Choate belngs to the J.B. Stewart Camp, C.V>
Association, Terrell, and also the Terrell Guards. Died February 26,
1913. Buried at Terrell, Texas, March 1, 1913
I think I mentioned before that Nancy Choate (daughter of Thomas Kyle
and Elizabeth Renfrew Choate) has as a second husband a Mr. Spurlock.
In my aunt's book, she says about the Spurlocks.
"John Tipton (Barefoot) said he was the 'second of eight children' but
the other four were of his mother's second marriage to a Mr Spurlock.
These four were Sarah, Hetty Catherine, and Nancy Anne, and a boy they
called 'Bobe.' (Bible records show Gilbert and Laurence Spurlock and we
assume one was the husband and one the son of Nancy Choate Barefoot
Spurlock, but we do not know which is which.)"
>From my aunt's book, again *smile*
"The young Barefoots (sons of Nancy Choate and Dillon Barefoot) wee
apparently brought up in Lawrence County, Tennessee, near the boundary
line between southern Tennessee and northern Alabama, described
historicaly as 'Middle Tennessee.' Their father must have died when
they were quite young, as John Tpton tells of being an orphan and of
hhis hardships in making a living as a young boy and man. He and hhis
cousin, Monroe Chote, rafted supplies down the Tennessee River and it
was during this time that he met Jane McLane Mobley. While engaged in
rafting dupplies down the river, he called one day at a house to inquire
for directins and to get a drink of cool water. There came to the door
a handsome young woman with dark red hair and intense blue eyes. When
he left she announced, 'There is the man I am going to marry.' ---
Jane, who at 19 was considered an old maid, despaired of ever marrying.
Her grandmother consoled her, 'The river will wash all the trash on down
the river but the solid piece will land at the bottom.' She obviously
considered John Tipton barefoot 'solid' and they were married July 22,
1847."
Another little vignette. Take it with as much salt as you wish.
*smile*
In the "Barefoot-Withrow" book, written by two of my aunts, it is
written that:
"While Nancy Choate (daughter of Thomas Kyle & Elizabeth Renfrew Choate
of Lawrence Co., TN) was still a girl at home, Davy Crockett visited in
her parents' home many months at a time and hunted with her brothers.
Hr sons, Thomas D. and John Tipton Barefoot, passed along to their
children the information that they were cousins of Davy Crockett, but
they did not expain in what way they were connected."
In a handwritten note on that same page, it says:
"Davy Crockett's mother died in Monroe Choate's hoome. John WIley
Barefoot on his deathbed said 'Don't forget we are related to Davy
Crockett'."
I've not found any connection yet.
Barbara
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hi,
This David was my 4gr grandfather. I have him born 1775. I do not have a death
date for him. I also have James, my 3 gr grandfather born 1804. I would go for
the 2 David's theory that Barbara pointed to. Also, as Barbara cautioned...I
got my info off of the net and have not proven it myself.
bjheller
P1TTYPAT(a)aol.com wrote:
> I have found a bit of a problem with data I received from someone, can't
> remember who. I have a David Choate, b.1752- VA married a Native American,
> Ok-La-Fa-Lay-A. This data says that he died in 1784in MS. Hoe can this be if
> he had a son, James C. Choate in 1804. Does Anyone have any answers?
> Pat McAlister in AR
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It depends where you got the information. Two suggestions:
1. There are TWO Davids from the same area. Not uncommon. They could be
cousins, father/son, uncle/nephew..etc.
2. If you got the stuff from places that don't have the sources, then be
skeptical. Carolyn and I got some stuff from the LDS archives on the Vinsons.
There were a lot of errors in it. The information is only as good as the
research abilities of the person who put it there.
Do think about the possibility of two Davids.
P1TTYPAT(a)aol.com wrote:
> I have found a bit of a problem with data I received from someone, can't
> remember who. I have a David Choate, b.1752- VA married a Native American,
> Ok-La-Fa-Lay-A. This data says that he died in 1784in MS. Hoe can this be if
> he had a son, James C. Choate in 1804. Does Anyone have any answers?
> Pat McAlister in AR
Anyone know who Valentine Choate b abt 1720 was married to, and who was the
Valentine Choate b abt 1760 m Ann ? who came to Sumner county? Is this the
Valentine who purchased land from the heirs of Thomas T Byrd in Robertson Co
TN?
Thanks,
Mary Lou
I have found a bit of a problem with data I received from someone, can't
remember who. I have a David Choate, b.1752- VA married a Native American,
Ok-La-Fa-Lay-A. This data says that he died in 1784in MS. Hoe can this be if
he had a son, James C. Choate in 1804. Does Anyone have any answers?
Pat McAlister in AR
Well, I've kind of run out of stories right now, unless I find some. I'm
still going through papers. *grin* Who knows what gems I might find
yet.
Marjorie Kinkade wrote:
> I was glad to see Barbara's posting - seems like we don't have much
> going lately. We "northerners" enjoy hearing you "southerners" tell
> your stories, and I'd like to hear from those of our line too.
>
> Once more,has anyone ever heard of a descendant of either Harry or
> Arthur Choate, born in Madison County, Iowa and left there to go out
> west around the turn of the century?
>
> These men were brothers of my Grandfather, Lewis Choate. When my Dad
> was born in 1898, Harry (nick-named Had) told Grandma that if she would
> name the baby after him, he would buy him his first "set of clothes"
> (whatever that meant.) Grandma didn't like Had very well, but they did
> name the baby Harry Forrest. Shortly after, Had left the country - and
> Dad didn't get the clothes. I don't know if that was the reason they
> always called him Forrest , although as an adult, Dad always signed his
> name H.F. Choate.
I was glad to see Barbara's posting - seems like we don't have much
going lately. We "northerners" enjoy hearing you "southerners" tell
your stories, and I'd like to hear from those of our line too.
Once more,has anyone ever heard of a descendant of either Harry or
Arthur Choate, born in Madison County, Iowa and left there to go out
west around the turn of the century?
These men were brothers of my Grandfather, Lewis Choate. When my Dad
was born in 1898, Harry (nick-named Had) told Grandma that if she would
name the baby after him, he would buy him his first "set of clothes"
(whatever that meant.) Grandma didn't like Had very well, but they did
name the baby Harry Forrest. Shortly after, Had left the country - and
Dad didn't get the clothes. I don't know if that was the reason they
always called him Forrest , although as an adult, Dad always signed his
name H.F. Choate.
In the cemetery at Hickory, Oklahoma, there are these two graves:
Nancy A. Wife of John D. Choate
Born 15 April 1843 Died 15 Sep 1898
"Weep not for me my children
Dear I am not dead but sleeping hear (sic)
I was not yours but Christ
Alone he loved me best
and took me home"
John D. (Dillon) Choate
Born 10 May 1837
Died 22 Jan 1900
"Gone but not forgotten"
Choats
We are having a family Reunion on August 2 2000. We are looking for lost
decendents of Rosa and Charles Choate of Flint Michigan.
We know some relatives have moved to Florida, New Jersey and Stockton
California.
If you Rosa or Charles Choate are in your line, please let me know.
Thank you
----- Original Message -----
From: JAMES F. CHOATE <choate.gen(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: <Your Name ai735(a)postoffice.swbell.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: John Montgomery Choate
> Nicholas Choate 1792 NC - 7-29-1841 Perry Co. TN
> Mary ?? DOB unk - 8-21-1842 Perry Co. TN
> John D. 10-23-1815
> Mary 11-30-1817
> Zachariah 11-08-1821
> ** Jonathan Jackson 12-08-1822
> Sarah 02-24-1825
> Nicholas 01-28-1827
> Joab 03-30-1830
> Francis Marion 01-08-1832
>
> ** Jonathan Jackson 12-8-1822 Perry Co. TN - 1908 Friendship Cem
> Nacogdoches TX
> Frances A. Hardy 12-28-1825 NC - 7-18-1874 Nacogdoches TX
> Mary F. 12-4-1848
> *** George Craft 02-1850
> Martha E. 1853
> Hardy Herbert 1-19-1855
> Jonathan Jackson Jr. 3-27-1860
> Josephine 1864
>
> *** George Craft 2-1850 MS - DOD unk
> Casina Clementine Jackson 4-5-1849 TX - 3-17-1915 Nacogdoches
TX
> DOM 12-23-1875 Nacogdoches TX
> Ellen C. 1877
> Frances E. 3-1879
> **** John Montgomery 12-12-1880
> Willie 2-1888
> Milton 8-1884
>
> **** John Montgomery 12-12-1880 (Probably Madison Co. TX )
> Wife Unk
> Marie E.
> James Asay
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> This is all the documented information I have. I go back to Christopher
that
> came to the colonies from England, but as I say it is not completely
> documented.
>
> Your great grandfather and my great great grandfather Francis Marion were
> brothers. This would make you my third cousin once removed.
>
> Good luck on you search.
> Jim Choate
>
>
>
>
I take that back. I have one George Choate and I have no further
information on him, but if he does fit.. I've got the information to go
further back. You'd have to verify everything, of course. *smile*
Barbara
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5455/OTHER_CHOATE_BRANCHES.html
Gabriel Choate (Son of Ephraim & Keziah Lawson Choate)
b. 14 Aug 1826, TN
d. 14 July 1923 Field Creek, TX
m. 1848 Mary Rainbolt b. 1830 Ala.
Children:
1. Adaline Choate b 1849 TX
2. Ephraim Choate
3. Austin Choate
b. 8 Aug 1859 TX
d. 9 June 1930 Ada, OK.
m. 6 Sept 1884 Mary Elizabeth Simmons
b. 27 Feb 1867 Birdwell, TX
d. 29 Nov 1947 Ada, OK (Dau. of Joseph Pickens and Frances
Virginia (Mason) Simmons)
Children:
Joseph Choate
Walter Choate
Earl Choate
Irvan Wesley Choate
b. 1 June 1901 San Saba, TX
m. 27 Nov 1935 Fleeeta Stapleton Moritzky
b. 31 March 1911, La Harpe, KA (Dau. of William
Frederick & Arizona Rozena (Lewis) Moritzky)
Children:
William Wesley Choate b. 25 July 1939, OKC, OK.
4. Jasper Choate
5. Andrew Choate
6. George Choate
7. John Choate
8. Gabriel Choate
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Then there is Squire Edward Choate's family -they have a George Kyle Choate:
Squire Edward Choate(Son of Thomas Kyle & Elizabeth Renfro)
b. 24 Oct 1819 Lawrence Co., Tennessee
d. 12 Nov 1883 Johnson Co., Arkansas
m. 1st 25 Feb 1841 Nancy Atwell
b. 14 April 1823 Virginia
d. 18 Dec 1861 Lawrence Co., Tennessee
Children:
1. Thomas Dillon Choate b. 21 Nov 1841 Tennessee
d. Checota, Oklahoma
2. James Rufus Choate b. 27 July 1843 Lawrence Co., Tenn.
d. 28 Feb 1913 Kaufman Texas
3. Mary Jane Choate b. 10 Dec 1844 Tennessee
m. 1st Matthew McMurtry
m. 2nd Mr. Brisby
4. Hetty Elizabeth Choate b. 21 March 1846 Lawrence Co., Tennessee
m. Wiliam Blundell
5. John Henry Choate b. 10 May 1848 Tennessee
6. Martha Dee Choate b. 17 NOv 1849 Tennessee
7. George Kyle Choate b. 8 June 1853 Tennessee
8. Joseph Hardin Choate b. 1 Sept 1855 Tennessee
m. Nancy _______
9. Sarah J. Choate b. 4 June 1857 Tennessee
d. by 1860
10. Susan M. Choate b. 4 June 1857 Tennessee
d. Knoxville Arkansas
m.c. 1876 P. H. Jett b.c. 1850 Arkansas
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Your Name wrote:
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:54:08 -0600
> From: Your Name <ai735(a)postoffice.swbell.net>
> Reply-To: ai735(a)swbell.net
> Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services
>
> Got your letter and I didn't have anything. But may be you might beable
> to help me. I am Marie E. Choate Asay. My father was John Montgamery
> Choate. I am trying to fine out something about him. I didn't know him
> and I would like to get something about him. I have been on the web and
> just can't fined a thing. I am hopeing that I could fined something this
> way, and hope that you may help me. He was born 12/12/1880 in Welborn,
> TX. His father was George C. Choate. His mother was Clementine (Furra)
> Choate and my fathers first wife was Mollie (Sales) Choate. He had a
> brother that was named Meltan. He had three children by Mollie. Then he
> married my mother and I am the only one from this marrage.
>
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