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Author: CHISHWL
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Sorry about the spelling, folks. I somehow hit the post button before I was finished spell checking.
W.L.
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Author: CHISHWL
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Recently, while tracking down one of the many Johns, I ran across the following information in the records of Madison Co, AL.
Letters of Administration for the estate of one John Chisolm were issued to a Lazarus Vann on 8/16/1830. These letters were issued with the consent of the widow, Sarah. John died intestate. Filtering thru the notes and letters, I found the heirs to be: Sarah (widow), John Chisolm Jr., William Chisolm Sr, Isham Pullen, Alfred Marrow, Andrew Burnside, and Nancy Fisher. Nancy Fisher, and John Chisum had a letter written from White Co, Tn to the judge of probate requesting that slaves Hannah (old woman) and Dolly (girl), part of the estate of John Chisolm, be sold and the proceeds of the sale be divided among the heirs. A LeRoy Chisum, who apparently lived in Madison Co, Al attached his concurrence. (Sarah, Nancy, and LeRoy can not write). LeRoy's concurrence is dated April or Aug. 18, 1832. One William L. Chisam charged the estate 2.00 for bringing the slaves to Huntsville on 7/2/1832. Around this time, Sarah, the widow, had a letter written to the judge of probate asking that!
the judge provide her with the status of the settlement of the estate, stating that she had not received a single penny from the estate of her husband and that she had sent a letter to the administrator but not heard from him. She also stated that her husband had promised that she would be able to keep the slaves to "wate" on her during her old age. Soon after the letter was received, the judge ordered the sherriff to have Mr Van bring all records of the estate to court. No mention of the disposition or fate of Mr Vann is mentioned. I recoginized this John to be "Blind John" because several years ago I had read of his daughter's troubles in applying for his Revoloutionary War
Pension.
"Blind John" is listed, in most accounts, as having died in Perry Co, AL but it is apparent he died in Madison Co, AL It could be that he was a resident of Perry Co and happened to die in Madison Co. That may be why $2.00 was charged to bring the slaves to Huntsville. No records I have seen show the first names of John's son in laws, Burnside and Pullen. I think this record in Madison Co makes those name clear. Alfred Marrow may be another son in law.
The file in Madison Co, AL has the estate sale, listing all property sold and to whom. There are also several slips of paper where Mr Vann made charges to the estate for "services" and one page which was faded and unreadable.
There was no charge for transportation of the body so I assume John was buried in Madison Co or someone transported his body free of charge to "wherever". There is a charge of $2.00 for a casket.
Hope this is helpful to you "Blind John" folks. BTW the spelling of the name Chisolm is all over the lot. Chisolm,Chisum,Chism,Chisam,etc. Seems that none could read or write.
W.L. Chisholm
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Author: ccaldwelltexas
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Popular myth has it that John Chisum bought Jensie from a wagon master named Joseph Baines who was from Arkansas and on his way to California with his family and several slaves. It's also claimed that he paid somewhere between $1,400 and $2,000 for her. Unfortunately, none of these stories can be proven. What is known to be factual is that Chisum purchased Jensie in 1858 in Gainesville, Texas from his first cousin Frances Johnson Towery and her husband Tom V. Towery. Cooke County, Texas court records support the fact that Jensie was purchased by Chisum after she already had the three children; Phillip (born 1852), Harriet (born 1855) and Almeady (born 13 April 1857). However, in an 1876 interview daughter Almeady is said to have claimed that John Chisum bought her mother in 1849 from his niece Miss Towery. Almeady had also thought that Jensie was sold to Chisum for $1,500. These claims simply do not fit the facts. Jensie had belonged to John Johnson, Frances Johnson!
's father, and was mentioned in his will. When he died in 1853 Jensie went to Frances. By the time John Chisum bought her she already had three children. Jensie and the three children were used as collateral for a note of $814 by Frances and Tom. The note was for 100 head of cattle the Towery's were buying, probably to sell in California which is where they were planning on going. Chisum promised to give back the Jensie Chisum family in ten years, plus any increase in children, after the loan was paid. The Towery's would eventually move to New Mexico with Chisum before going on to California and settling in Visalia. While in New Mexico, Frances was Chisum's housekeeper and acted in that capacity until Chisum's niece, Sallie took over on 24 December 1877.
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