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Author: Scismgenie
Surnames: Scism, Sisson, Chisholm
Classification: queries
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There are no representatives from this branch as yet represented. Send your email address to scismgenie(a)roadrunner.com, and I will drop the chart off to you.
Of the four tests processed, one is from the Sisson Family, One from the NY Branch of Scisms (Really my fathers maternal line), one from the North Carolina Scisms, (like the Tennessee Scisms appearing from "nowhere" about 1770s) one is from the NY Scism branch, in country since about 1640 - Belgian/Dutch)
and the last is myself, whose lines are only Scism for one generation, my paternal Grandfather was a McCann.
The William Scism line of Tennessee and Missouri is unrepresented. (not from lack of trying).
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Author: rpchisholm
Surnames: Chisholm Chism Scism
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Well Jeff, you know there is only one way to test this hypothesis, via the DNA method. I just checked your Scism project but could find where your results were. The Chisholm project now has 6 results posted, and I cannot recall any of your 5 Scisms being called up as matches, but feel free to check out the results page on the Chisholm project site.
So far we have established 4 distinct bloodlines, 3 of these are Highland bloodlines, not to say we wont establish more lines as the project expands.I am kinda thinking that you are one of William Scism's descendants, if so see if anything on the Chisholm results page matches yours. If you are not one of William's descendants,and none of them has tested, then it would of course be great if you can convince one of them to take the test. While the 67 markers are naturally the best, the more economical method of 37 markers would be enough to verify any match with anybody on the Chisholm results chart.... and if so then this Scism could concurrently joint the Chisholm project, free of charge with just a simple click.
As a matter of interest, when I was a wee lad, I have heard n more than one occasion, some people mispronouncing my surname of Chisholm, into something which sounded exactly like Scism, so I know that this name transition is feasible and easy to do.
All the best
Rbert Chisholm
co administrator of Chisholm DNA project.
ps perhaps you can email me the Scism DNA results to date
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Author: rpchisholm
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Sorry for being ever so slightly facetious regarding your world authority status on the Chisholms of Alabama,although you may earn this tag by default.And very intersting to see that, in your case at least, the spelling re-arrangements have crept in withing the past 3-4 generations. Well at least it provides a confirmed paper trail to show where when and how the name changed, I expect many Chisums and Chisms in the USA cannot trace back to an ancestor with the name spelt"Chisholm".
Regards
Robert Chisholm co-administrator Chisholm DNA project
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Author: Scismgenie
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For about thirty years with little ( shall we say NO) progress, I have been searching for the parents of a William Scism who appears in Hawkins County, Tennessee after 1778 and before 1803, when he is married there. This William is the progenator of a long line of Scisms documented in a book published in 1940, by Delos M. Scism. (The book stops there, and subsequently, all research leads back to the book, and no further).
Many researchers are still stumped on the parents, and you would think after 30 years 'some' progress would be made.
William and his family lived on McPheeters Bend, of the Holston river, which by all records could have been an impassable barrier in those times. There was in most of the year no way to cross it to the local communities.
By 1850 this Scism clan spread out, a few remaining in the Hawkins County area, but the main portion of William's children relocating to Stoddard County, (Bloomfield) Missouri.
The interesting part is a Chisum story, and bear with me, this isn't proven.
A possibility exists that the William Scism in question is a son of an Elijah Chisum, and was born in Hawkins County, Tennessee in 1778. The parent of this William Chisum was a lawyer, and moved around a lot, and "his" son William is the only one of several kids which doesn't have a 'verifiable' down line.
Most researchers just hang his name out there.
Does anyone have documentation on the above Elijah?
I postulate that his son William born in 1878 is also the same as the below William Scism, and thus a new (to the Chisholm group) family name came into use. (There was a DUTCH Scism Family in NY as early as 1640, and its earliest written down record shows it as "Robert Chisom", although the Scism (pronounced Sis-sum)name seems to have developed from vanderChijs (From the Chijs (Sijs), a village in modern Belgium).
Jeff Scism
Descendants of William Scism
1 William Scism b: Abt. 1776 in Possibly Augusta County, Virginia. d: 1831 in Hawkins, Tennessee, Usa
.. Elizabeth Duncan b: Bet. 1780 - 1785 of Jonesboro, Washington district, NC (now Tennessee) m: Abt. March 1802 in , Hawkins Co., TN d: in Hawkins, Tennessee, Usa
........ 2 Mary 'Polly' Scism b: July 29, 1804 in , Hawkins Co., TN d: 1829 in , Hawkins Co., TN
........ 2 Lucretia Scism b: September 08, 1806 in , Hawkins Co., TN d: November 07, 1892 in Plano, TX Burial: Big Springs, TX
............ James Patterson b: 1798 in , TN m: Abt. 1832 in , Hawkins Co., TN d: 1876 in , Hawkins Co., TN Burial: McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, Usa
........ 2 Jesse Duncan Scism b: May 01, 1809 in near New Canton, Hawkins Co., TN d: Bef. 1874
............ Nancy Ann Skelton b: August 13, 1816 in Hawkins, Tennessee m: October 27, 1831 in , Hawkins Co., Tn d: in Stoddard, Missouri, Usa Burial: McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, Usa
........ 2 William Duncan Scism I b: November 15, 1813 in McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA d: August 18, 1897 in North Antioch, Stoddard, Missouri, USA Burial: North Antioch Cemetery, Stoddard, Missouri, USA
............ Lucinda B. McPheeters b: November 18, 1816 in New Canton, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA m: Abt. 1836 in Hawkins County, Tennessee d: August 24, 1884 in Stoddard, Missouri, Usa Burial: N. Antioch Cem., N. Bloomfield, Stoddard Co., Mo
........ 2 John Scism b: September 08, 1816 in Hawkins, Tennessee, Usa d: February 11, 1885 in Bloomfield, Stoddard, Missouri, Usa Burial: N. Antioch Cem., N. Bloomfield, Stoddard Co., Mo
............ Lucretia McPheeters b: November 08, 1823 in , Hawkins Co., TN m: Abt. 1840 in , Hawkins Co., TN d: March 11, 1900 in Bloomfield, Stoddard Co., MO Burial: N. Antioch Cem., N. Bloomfield, Stoddard Co., MO
........ 2 Elizabeth Scism b: July 04, 1819 in , Hawkins Co., TN
........ 2 James Millard Scism b: January 26, 1826 in McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA d: July 07, 1863 in Atlanta, DeKalb, Georgia, USA Burial: Atlanta, DeKalb, Georgia, USA
............ Anna Skelton b: December 07, 1831 in McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA m: February 15, 1848 in McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA d: May 29, 1900 in McPheeters Bend, Hawkins, Tennessee, USA
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Author: donnafountain59
Surnames: Chisholm
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These are the Chisholms that I have found(under various spellings)on the 1830 Alabama Census:
Alexander Chisholm....Lauderdale County
Alexander Chisholm....Marion
Daniel Chisholm...Monroe
G.(Gillington) Chisholm...Franklin
John Chisholm...Lauderdale
John Chisholm.....Lauderdale
Mary Chisholm....Monroe
Richard....Monroe
Sanuel....Pickens
J. Chislm(Jonathan)...Mobile
William Chislom...Montgomery
Frances Chism....Bibb
John Chism...Bibb
John Chism....Tuscaloosa
Lewis Chism...Tuscaloosa
Middleton Chism....Tuscaloosa
Partrick(Patrick) Chism...Dallas
William Chism...Madison
William,Jr...Madison
Elbert Chisolm....Monroe
Izard Chissel....Lauderdale
Jacob Chrisman....Fayette
John Chrisman...Pickens
Samuel Chrisman...Fayette
There are probably more..I have found that they came mostly from S.C., but some came from Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, Tenn., and Florida. They were not all Scottish born..but Irish, English,
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Author: donnafountain59
Surnames: Chisholm
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Good Grief! I am not a world authority on anything..especially the Chisholms in Alabama! I have spent alot time studying the ones in Alabama, however, because they have been overlooked by many genealogists. As for the name change, I think the census takers helped that along. I think they tried to abreviate it...and the spelling of the name changed. The name "Chism" is on my birth certificate..but my great grandfathe, Hugh's last name was spelled "Chisholm"..
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Author: donnafountain59
Surnames: Chisholm
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Good Grief! I am not a world authority on anything..especially the Chisholms in Alabama! I have spent alot time studying the ones in Alabama, however, because they have been overlooked by many genealogists. As for the name change, I think the census takers helped that along. I think they tried to abreviate it...and the spelling of the name changed. The name "Chism" is on my birth certificate..but my great grandfathe, Hugh's last name was spelled "Chisholm"..
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Author: rpchisholm
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Hi Donna, I cant help out uch with your query, and judging by your posts, you would seem to be the world authority on the subject of the Chisholms of Alabama.
But judging by the dates and names you gave for those people such as Daniel and Hugh, these may well have been 1st and second generation descendents of Clan Chisholm Highlanders transported to NC following the jacobite uprisings. I get the impression that people with americanised spellings such as yourself with Chisum, may have nbeen descended from earlier immigrants.
Anyway , if you come across any Chisholms or Chisums in Alabama, who want to check out their Scottish roots, we now have a DNA project going, where we have identified to date, 4 distinct kinship groups. This project can be found at FamilyTreeDNA.com, enter the name Chisholm in the search box.
Coincidentally there is another DNA project running, and any African American Chisholms /Chisums/Chisms, could concurrently join both projects, this is the Black Belt of Alabama DNA project. Good luck with the searching for your lost Chisholms. For most people to get beyond the late 1700's in the Highlands,DNA testing will be the only hope
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TLHarrisnatnwide(a)aol.com wrote:
> I also have a new grand daughter born on the 24 of this month but came 7 weeks early and still
> in ICU - will be there 3-4 weeks as far as we know - she's doing okay but
> having to be tube feed - she weighed 4# 11 oz and 18" long.
Prayers for the heart situation, and hope fpor the baby.
My wife (12 years ago now!) had twins prematurely, my daughter weighed
4-6 oz. and my son weighed 2-4 oz. Preemies have a lot of educational
issues usually. Things like lung development and eyesight are
sometimes problems, but aside from all that they have a program to put
in place, no matter what happens.
I am sure both family members are getting excellent care, at home and
professionally.
:)
Jeff
Thanks - get me the info and I'll add it in the book - will get you
additional info soon - see ya and thanks again for all you do - Bet
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HE IS IN THE BOOK. JUST DOESN'T HAVE A WIFE LISTED. HE IS THE SON OF LOUIE CHESTER CHISHOLM AND FLORENCE-----------. LOUIE IS THE SON OF MARTIN LEE CHISHOLM AND MISSOURI ANN JONES.
PAM
Good to hear from you - who is David Lee Chisholm? Where does he fit in - I
haven't done anything else to the book since it was printed with exceptions of
just writing things in my copy - will try to forward the new info when I get
around to it - been really busy - Toney had to have major heart surgery -
replaced aorta and aorta value in November and doing fair I guess - also have a
new grand daughter born on the 24 of this month but came 7 weeks early and still
in ICU - will be there 3-4 weeks as far as we know - she's doing okay but
having to be tube feed - she weighed 4# 11 oz and 18" long. Got our fingers
crossed she'll pull through all this hardship. So much can be done these days for
preemies and know the Good Lord will help us through this - hope you're well
and if you'd can forward the info, I'll try to get it in my book where it
goes. Your help is always appreciated.
Always - Betty
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Author: donnafountain59
Surnames: Chisholm
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I have been away from the Chisholm family for awhile; but I keep checking back..hoping that someone has more information on my Chisholm family. We have discovered in the last few years that Hugh G. Chisholm who was born abt. 1823 and lived in Monroe County, was the son of Daniel Chisholm..born abt. 1785 probably in N.C...Daniel, John, Hugh..all owned land adjacent to each other in Monroe County, Al. We had thought that John was the brother of Hugh..but discovered there were two John's living in and around Monroe County..and that one John was called "John the Elder" and the second was called"John the Younger"..if any of these men seem familiar to any of you..please let me know..Donna Fountain
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Author: PamJackson7464
Surnames: CHISHOLM, JONES, MAYFIELD, BEAVERS, PATTERSON, CURTIS,
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I have some info on David Lee Chisholm. nothing on his wife. E-mail me at
pansynell(a)gtcom.net
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In a message dated 5/28/2007 11:24:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
pansynell(a)gtcom.net writes:
I have David Lee Chisholm born 1920"s resides or resided in Jackson, MS in
1976. I have lineage on him. But nothing on his wife. If u want his lineage I wi
ll be happy to give it to you.
Pam
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Pam,
I have that David Lee Chisholm was the son of Chester Louie/Louie Chester
Chisholm and Florence Unknown. Do you have anything else on David or his parents?
Nancy
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Author: WandaLBusby
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I am looking for information on David Lee Chisholm and his wife, Mary Elizabeth Loper. They married 26 Apr 1948 in Jones Co, MS. I am researching the Loper family and would like to fill in blanks on David and Mary.
Thanks
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I have David Lee Chisholm born 1920"s resides or resided in Jackson, MS in 1976. I have lineage on him. But nothing on his wife. If u want his lineage I will be happy to give it to you.
Pam
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Author: rpchisholm
Surnames: Chisholm
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If you have any Chisholm cousins (male) you can also consider the Chisholm DNA project which is being run via familytreedna.com (search for Chisholm)
Good luck with your search. I know that a lot of Chisholms either emigrated to South Carolina prior to the jacobite uprisings, and many were "transported" to the south as a result of the Jacobite troubles, so the Alabama Chisholms may well be descended from these groups.
regards
Robert Chisholm
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I will check out that website. This is my first time hearing of the website. Thank You.
Michele
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