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From The Chiz, History of the Chisholme /Chism Family
The estate near Nairn was Cantray, which passed with his daughter to the
roses of Lilavock and thence, doubless through another lady, to the local family
of Dallas, descended from Williams de Rypley: who incorporated the Chisholm
boar's head with the Moray stars in their own coat of arms. Ii is perhaps
interesting to note that the heads of the two allied clans appear as The Chisholm
and as the Dallas of Contray in the Ivernessburgh records of the seventeenth
century.
Robert Chisholm of that Ilk, Justicar of the North, had a younger son whon
continued the line of the Chisholm on the Border of Scotland, and who was also
ancestor of the Chisholm of Cromlix in Perthshire. To this branch belongs three
strongly anti-Reformation bishops in the sixteenth century.
It was Robert Chisholm of that ilk's oldest son Alexander, however, who
established the Chisholms in what was to become the clan country. He acquired
estates in five countries, including Erchless, and part of Strathglass in
Ivernesshire, through his marriage to Margaret, daughter of wiland of the Aird. It
isn't known how she came to inherit the Ivernesshire, but it was pesumably
through a desent from the familu called duBoiswood who in turn got them with an
heiress of the great Scoto-Norman house of Bisset, the founder of Beauly Priory:
from whom the Chisholms' neighbors in the Arid, the Fraziers of Lovat, had also
inherited the wide lands on which they still live.
Written By John D.Chish
Antoinette
My family goes back to John Chisholm (wife Fanny?) who died in Scotland between 1813 & 1819. His son was James Chisholm born 1770 in Scotland and was burried in in Scotland County ,NC Cemetary ,Jan 28,1833. He had a son Kenneth Campbell Chisholm (wife Ann Kelly) born in NC 1814 and Died NC in 1885. They had 7 children: James Campbell b. 1856,Peter Alexander b.1857,John Daniel b.1859, Sarah Catherine b.1861, Angus Evander (my grandfather) b 1864, Malcolm Duncan b.1867, Roderick Kenneth b. 1869 :all in NC. Hope this helps somebody. Most of this information comes from a book by Kenneth L. Kelly " McIver family of North Carolina".
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While the Chisholm's are all on here, I'm looking for any information on Andrew Chisholm, born 1776, unknown where. Settled in New Kingston, Delaware County, New York.
Thanks
Kathy Russell Barnes
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In a message dated 12/8/2004 11:33:59 PM Central Standard Time, ZKAI(a)aol.com
writes:
Hi Belinda,
do you mind if I reply back to you over the weekend, I am working and trying
to get ready for christmas:) I will read some of the Hisory of the Chisholms
and I will copy some of the things that I have found for you.
Antoinette
Hi, Antoinette,
I was out of town for a few days and just now returned and reading your
emails. I will look forward to hearing from you at your earliest opportunity.
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Bellinda Myrick-Barnett
In a message dated 12/10/2004 12:48:17 AM Central Standard Time, ZKAI(a)aol.com
writes:
There is not much about Adam Chisholme before he arrived here except that he
fought in the war called the "Fifteen" in 1715 and he was between the ages of
18 and 20 yrs old. he was deported here in virginia, 639 prisoners (
Jacobites) were sent to the colonies and west Indies.
that is all I know about Adam before he came here.
Antoinette
Thank you, Antoinette.
Bellinda Myrick-Barnett
Anyone have data on Roderick C Chisholm b 1812 NC? He had a sister named
Janet and possibly a brother named William. Janet McGilvray who was b
abt 1786 was his aunt. They moved to Barbour Co Al by 1850 where he
married Martha Taylor. Thanks. Penny
Great! I'm looking for Daniel Chisholm - he married Margaret McLean. They moved from Robeson County to Monroe County, AL in the early 1800s.
I've been looking for a Hugh and a John Chisholm that owned land patents near Daniel's in the mid to late 1830s.
Teresa
Pat Mumford <patmum(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I have Chisholm family that lived in the Scotland and Robeson counties of NC.
hassall wrote:Hi there
Is anyone please searching for CHISHOLM in North Carolina, United States. My
CHISHOLM lived there prior to the American Revolution.
thanks for reading this
Judy
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Hi there
Is anyone please searching for CHISHOLM in North Carolina, United States. My
CHISHOLM lived there prior to the American Revolution.
thanks for reading this
Judy
Thanks for posting this! My grandfather was a Strathglass Chisholm. :-)
Sue
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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:26 AM
Subject: [CHISHOLM] Chisholm
> From the book the Chiz, History of the Chisholme/Chism Family by John
D.Chism
>
>
> In old Beornician, chisholm means the waterside meadow good for
Producuing
> cheese. It was a place in the Roxburghshire parish of Roberton and became
a
> feudal barony. the family who held Chisholm took their surname from it.
>
> Chisholm is an old name, however it is seldom found in early Scotch
records.
> among the first record of the name is Alexander Chisholm witnessing a
> charter as early as 1248/49. John de Cheseholme is mentioned in a bull of
Pope
> alexander IV, 1254 A.D. John De Chesolm of Berwickshire, and Richard de
Chesehelme
> of Roxburghshire rendered homage in 1296 A.D. The seal of the latter bears
> on"heater shield", a boars head, couped conturn'e, dropping blood, and
S'
> Ricardi de Cheishelm".
>
> Orignally the Chisholms were found only on the Scottish border in
Roxbrough
> and Berwichshire. they later became well established in the Highlands. The
> Gaelic form of chisholm is Siosal, and collectively the clan is know as
> Siosalatch. the Highland Chisholms are sometimes distinguished from the
Lowland
> Chisholms as an Siosalach Glaiseach, The Chisholms of Strathglass.
> The Chisholms came to the highlands where they became known as (an
Siosalach)
> when robert Chisholms of that Ilk succeeded his maternal grandfather, Sir
> Robert Lauder of the Bass, as the royal constable of Castle Urquhart on
the Loch
> Ness in 1359. This castle is the key to the Iverness and the Great Glen,
and
> the laird of the Chisholm soon also became sheriff of Iverness and
Justiciar of
> the North. He in herited from his Lauder grandfather lands in Moray near
> Elgin and NAirn. At that time, the Chisholms's focus of interest shifted
to the
> North. tyhe estate near Elgin was called Quarrelwood, most likely from
the fact
> that it had hardwoods which provided the crossbow arrows called quarrels.
>
>
>
> Will copy more for you tomrrow.
>
> antoinette
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There is not much about Adam Chisholme before he arrived here except that he
fought in the war called the "Fifteen" in 1715 and he was between the ages of
18 and 20 yrs old. he was deported here in virginia, 639 prisoners (
Jacobites) were sent to the colonies and west Indies.
that is all I know about Adam before he came here.
Antoinette
From the book the Chiz, History of the Chisholme/Chism Family by John D.Chism
In old Beornician, chisholm means the waterside meadow good for Producuing
cheese. It was a place in the Roxburghshire parish of Roberton and became a
feudal barony. the family who held Chisholm took their surname from it.
Chisholm is an old name, however it is seldom found in early Scotch records.
among the first record of the name is Alexander Chisholm witnessing a
charter as early as 1248/49. John de Cheseholme is mentioned in a bull of Pope
alexander IV, 1254 A.D. John De Chesolm of Berwickshire, and Richard de Chesehelme
of Roxburghshire rendered homage in 1296 A.D. The seal of the latter bears
on"heater shield", a boars head, couped conturn'e, dropping blood, and S'
Ricardi de Cheishelm".
Orignally the Chisholms were found only on the Scottish border in Roxbrough
and Berwichshire. they later became well established in the Highlands. The
Gaelic form of chisholm is Siosal, and collectively the clan is know as
Siosalatch. the Highland Chisholms are sometimes distinguished from the Lowland
Chisholms as an Siosalach Glaiseach, The Chisholms of Strathglass.
The Chisholms came to the highlands where they became known as (an Siosalach)
when robert Chisholms of that Ilk succeeded his maternal grandfather, Sir
Robert Lauder of the Bass, as the royal constable of Castle Urquhart on the Loch
Ness in 1359. This castle is the key to the Iverness and the Great Glen, and
the laird of the Chisholm soon also became sheriff of Iverness and Justiciar of
the North. He in herited from his Lauder grandfather lands in Moray near
Elgin and NAirn. At that time, the Chisholms's focus of interest shifted to the
North. tyhe estate near Elgin was called Quarrelwood, most likely from the fact
that it had hardwoods which provided the crossbow arrows called quarrels.
Will copy more for you tomrrow.
antoinette
Yes I am aware of the history of Adam Chisholm the Jacobite after he arrived in the Americas, however, what about his life before that? Can you shed any light on his ancestry?
Agnita
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Is there anything about the Clearance of the Chisholms from there ancestral
homeland in Strathglass ? be grateful if you would have a look when poss.
Iain
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CHISHOLM] 1600s/VA/CHISHOLM &CHEESMAN/CHISMAN
> Hi Belinda,
> do you mind if I reply back to you over the weekend, I am working and
trying
> to get ready for christmas:) I will read some of the Hisory of the
Chisholms
> and I will copy some of the things that I have found for you.
>
> Antoinette
>
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Hi Belinda,
do you mind if I reply back to you over the weekend, I am working and trying
to get ready for christmas:) I will read some of the Hisory of the Chisholms
and I will copy some of the things that I have found for you.
Antoinette
Hi ,
Adam Chisholm was the progenitor of the Chisholme/Chism Family, Jacobite
prisoner. transported to virginia on the Elizabeth and Anne, exited Liverpool, 28
June 1716. Copied from the Chiz, History of the Chis/chisholme Family.
Antoinette
Can you please check in your book for the name Adam Chisholm?
Thanks,
Agnita Moore
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Good Morning,
My book starts in England and Scotland, then to Virgina. I checked the names
that you sent and they are not listed in this book. Sorry that I couldn't be
of more help.
Antoinette
In a message dated 12/7/2004 11:31:24 PM Central Standard Time, ZKAI(a)aol.com
writes:
Hi,
My family belonged to David Chisholme Jr, grandson of the Jacobite, I have
the book the Chiz, History of the Chism/chisholme by John D. Chism and he
does
a history of the surname and also some history. what exactly would you like
looked up. Maybe I can help you.
Antoinette
Dear Antoinette,
Good morning. Thanks for your response. I have just been finding that my
ancestry, apparently, includes that of Edmund CHEESMAN/CHISMAN, a York County
Justice of the Peace, who was executed following Bacon's Rebellion in late
1670s, through the Elizabeth CHEESMAN/CHISMAN thought to be his daughter and her
marriage to Henry FORREST. He and his wife, Mary, lived in York County,
Virginia. He may have been the son or related closely somehow to the (Captain) John
CHEESMAN/CHISMAN, also of York County, Virginia.
I can't tell, as of yet, whether this is an entirely separate family group
from the CHISHOLM/CHISHOLME/de CHESHOLME family group or not but, certainly, it
would seem possible that the spelling of CHEESMAN/CHISMAN might have come from
this.
I don't know if there is any ancestral connection between the 2 men named
Edmund but in the information about the CHISHOLM/CHESHOLME/de CHESHOLME family
group of Scotland and England written about in HISTORY OF THE CHISHOLMS with
Genealogies of the Families of Principal Name written by Alexander MACKENZIE,
F.S.A. SCOT, I have found information on a much earlier Edmund CHESHOLME/de
CHESHOLME, 4th son of Robert de CHESHOLME as mentioned below:
From:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/4111/chisholm/chisholm.html
Reprint of the whole book available : http://www.clanchisholmsociety.org/
<<
Seventh, Robert de Chesholme succeeded his brother, and was retoured, as his
heir male, on a Brieve from the Chancery of James I., directed to the Sheriff
of Teviotdale, To serve Robert of Chesholme, brother of John of Chesholme, in
all lands, etc., in which the latter died vest, and seized at the King?s
faith and peace within his sheriffdom, dated 13th Sept., anno. reg. 30 (1436).
This Robert was a person of considerable note. He was one of the Lords who gave
decree on the action raised by William Stirling of Cadar against Gilbert of
Stirling, 21st January, 1442 (Keir Papers), in which he is styled Robert of
Chesholme. He married Marion, daughter of Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig,
ancestor of the Duke of Queensberry, by whom he had four sons, John, the eldest, who
succeeded him, Robert, the second son, William, the third, a churchman and
eventually vicar of Pettin, and Edmund, the fourth son, who founded the family
of Cromlix and Dundorne, in the county of Perth. Malcolm says, Edmund Chesholme
was the first of Cromlex. He was a son of the Laird of Chesholme?s House in
Teviotdale. He married first Margaret Sinclair of Dryden, widow of Ramsay of
Balmain, by whom he had two sons ; secondly, he married Janet Drummond of
Coldoch (Malcolm's History of Drummond and Chisholme, p. 117). Keith, in his
Scottish Bishops, p. 178, concurs with Malcolm as to the origin of this branch. The
Cromlix family rapidly attained to wealth and power ; they became hereditary
bailies and justiciaries of the ecclesiastical lordship of Dunblane, made great
alliances by marriage, produced several knights and churchmen, four of whom
were bishops, but became extinct in the reign of Charles II.
>>
and, again, mentioned in the excerpt below, inclusive of 2 men named John,
another name that shows up in this family group along with Edmund.
<<
The Robert Chisholme who succeeded to the Border estates of the family in
1436, must have been, in these circumstances, the younger son of the second Sir
Robert ; and from him we now proceed to show, as clearly as possible, with the
slender materials at our disposal, the descent of the present Border family.
Robert married Marion, daughter of Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig, Hawick,
and Selkirk, all three Baronies of which he received a charter of
confirmation, dated the 30th November, 1412, from James I., written on vellum in the
King?s own hand. Sir William was an illegitimate son of James, Earl of Douglas and
Mar, killed at Otterburn on the 19th of August, 1388. By Marion Douglas,
whose mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Stewart of Durisdeer, Robert
Chisholme had issue, four sons
1. John, his heir and successor.
2. Robert, whose descendants, if any, we have not been able to trace.
3. William, who was bred to the church, and became vicar of Pettin.
4. Edmund, progenitor of the Chisholms of Cromlix, and of whom separately.
He was succeeded by his eldest son,
IX. John Chisholme, who married, with issue
X. Robert Chisholme, who married, with issue, several sons, all of whom
apparently predeceased their father, except
XI. George Chisholme, the youngest, who succeeded. He engaged, with Scott of
Buccleuch and other Border chiefs, to relieve James V. of Scotland, at his own
instigation, from the control and tutelage of the Earl of Angus. They were
defeated at the battle of Melrose in 1526, when Chisholme and the other
principal leaders were forfeited. On the accession of James, however, in 1528, the
Border chieftains received remission for their past offences, and George
Chisholme received a charter, dated at Edinburgh on the 12th of November, 1531, of the
lands of Chisholme, Chisholme Middon, Mouslie, Woodburn, Merrynier, and other
lands in the South of Scotland. He married, with issue, four sons and two
daughters. He was succeeded by his eldest son,
XII. Walter Chisholme, who was infeft in his father?s lands on the 13th of
March, 1538. He supported Queen Mary during her unfortunate rule in Scotland,
and was actively engaged in her cause during all the civil wars of her reign. In
1564 William Cranston of that Ilk is mentioned as Breder of this Walter
Chisholme a half-brother of course, by the same mother. He married, with issue,
and on his death, in 1588, was succeeded by his eldest son,
XIII. Walter Chisholme, who was infeft in his father?s lands on the 17th of
February, 1589. He married Margaret, daughter of John Graham of Wark. He died
in 1618, leaving issue an only son,
>>
Antoinette: Hello.
Does your book have any information on Archibald Chisholm, born in New
Brunswick, Canada about 1807.
His family as I know it:
a. Wife: Phebe Morrisey - b. NB - ABT 1817.
b. Daughter - Catharine - b. NB - ABT 1841.
c. George D. - Son - b. NB - ABT 1844.
John J. - Son - b. Maine (?) - May 1843. He married Jerusha Ann King.
Thank you very much.
Norman