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Oh Cecilia (and James),
> > I have just a few minutes so I will give you a bit from my
> > documents. My son is visiting and he helped unbury the box that
> > had my books in it.
> >
> > My grandmother and your grandmother are the daughters of Calvin
> > David "Dovie" Chisholm, b. 22Feb1850 in Meade Co., Ky. who
> > married as his second wife, Molly Gordon (we believe her maiden
> > name to be Brandon), she had been married to a Henry Gordon
> > who is, of course Annabelle's father (Mamo's and Cora's half-
> > sister), they married 25 Sep 1906 in Caruthersville, Pemiscot Co.,
> > Missouri. [I have a copy of the marriage cert.] Calvin died 8 Feb
> > 1938 in Hayti, Pemiscot, Missouri. Molly who was suppose to be
> > half or quarter Native was born either in 1879 or 1884 somewhere in
> > Kentucky. She died 2 Mar 1913 in Hayti, Pemiscot, Missouri of
> > Labor Pneunmonia [she was most likely with child again, and she
> > had been ill for some time, in fact she knew she was going to die
> > because she told the woman who took Mamo to raise that she
> > could have her]. Now Molly's death certificate [I have a copy] states
> > ahe was white, married, and d.o.b. was Sept. 10, 1884, that she
> > was 28yrs. 5 mons. and 20 days old at time of death, her
> > occupation was Housekeeping, that she was born in the Southern
> > part of Kentucky, her father's name was Robert Vest of Boone
> > County, Indiana and her mother'sd name Charity Powers of
> > Whittney Co, Ky (near the Cumberland Gap) and that she was
> > buried in Woodlawn Cem. on Mar. 3rd, 1913. All this information
> > was given by Dovie Chism.
> >
> > Now, CAUTION, ,just because it states all of this on a death
> > certificate doesn't mean it is gospel, death certificates have been
> > known to have the wrong information on them, that is why you need
> > always two official sources (better three) before you can accept it
> > as a fact. For instance, Molly is not buried in Woodlawn, she is
> > buried in Dry Bayou Cem. about 5 or 6 miles outside of Hayti, as is
> > Dovie, his older son by his first wife - Benjamin Franklin Chisholm
> > (named after his grandfather). I have been to this cemetary. There
> > is only a marker for Benjamin Franklin Chisholm and the record
> > book of the cemetary was lost 40 years ago when the
> > groundskeeper loaned it out to someone doing research and they
> > never returned it. There were two men who knew everyone who was
> > buried there and exactly where they laid in the ground but they've
> > been deceased for years. Long before I went there in '88. Another
> > point about the death certificate is this is the only document that
> > mentions Robert Vest as her father. Now, on Dovie's death
> > certificate there is more interesting information - he died Feb 8th,
> > 1938, was widowed, the name of the wife is listed as Rose
> > Chisholm (and no he never married again after Molly), Mamo and
> > Cora would have known that, His birth was March 2, 1850, he was
> > 87 years, 11 months, and 16 days old at time of death, his
> > occupation was lkisted as a retired farmer, birthplace, Meade Co.,
> > his parents information was not filled in, the informant is listed as
> > Jacob? or maybe James Chism of Hayti, Missouri, they have
> > amedical condition listed as cause of death. I also have a copy of
> > your grandmother, Cora's birth certificate, which was a delayed or
> > special certificate of birth, in other words it was applied for in March
> > of 1943. She had to provide 3 documents that could verify the
> > information was correct and those sources are listed on the
> > certificate. Also her Mother and father's name are listed. Calvin
> > Dovie Chisholm - Kentucky and Mollie Branden, birthplace -
> > MIssouri. As you can see, certificates can have lots of
> > discrepancies between one another. By the way, Cora was born
> > July 30, 1907 - 10 months after their marriage and died 1 Jan 1974.
> >
> > ok, all of this almost took one hour, onward --
> >
> > Now, "Dovie" our great-grandfather, was the son of Benjamin
> > Franklin Chisholm, b. Meade Co., Ky. and Mahulda Cameron [the
> > eldest daughter of Elizabeth Howard and John Chisholm who
> > married across the river in southern Indiana.] Mahulda was born 3
> > apr 1826 and died 28 jul 1888, and is buried in Meade Co., Ky.
> > Been to her grave several times. She married Benjamin 22 Oct
> > 1848. She was the widow of James Troutman and had a son by
> > him before she married Benjamin.
> >
> > The 1850 census records for Meade Co. state:
> >
> > 1Oct1850, record 810/812 -
> > Chism, Benjamin F. head of household, white ,22, married 1 for 2
> > yrs, born Ky.
> > Chism, Mahulda, wife, 25, mmarried twice, b. in Ky.,
> > Troutman, Leonard, son age 6 born in Ky.,
> > Chism, James son age 1 born in Ky. (now this is the only time
> > James shows up anywhere, so either he died in infancy or it was a
> > nickname for Napolean B. Chism.
> >
> > 1 Oct 1850, record 805/807:
> > Chism, Richard, head, age 38?, b. in Ky.;
> > Chism, Elizabeth, wife, age 44, b. in Ky.;
> > Cameron, Calvin, age 21, b. Ky.;
> > Cameron, John, age 15, b. Ky.;
> > Devore, Daniel, age 9, b. Ky.;
> > Chism, Margaret, age 8 b. ky.;
> > Chism, Bridget, age 6, b. Ky.;
> > Ball, Lewis, age 24, b. in Tenn.;
> > Ball, Sophie, age 18, b. in Ky. [Sophie was a Cameron, sister of
> > Mahulda]
> >
> > In the 1860 Census:
> > Record # 1018, they list:
> > Chism, Benjamin, head, white, age 31, b. Ky., occupation - Cooper;
> > Chism, Mahulda, wife, age 34, b.Ky.;
> > Chism, Napoleon, son, age 13, b.Ky.;
> > Chism, JOhn, son, age 11, b.Ky.;
> > Chism, Calvin, son, age 9, b. Ky.;
> > Chism, Abram, son, age 7, b. Ky.;
> > Chism, Columbia, age 2, b. Ky.;
> > Leonard, Issac, son, age 16, b. Ky. (this should be Leonard
> > Troutman)
> >
> > In 1860 Census, record #1080/1076, Chism, Richard, Jr., head,
> > age 44, b. Ky.;
> > Elizabeth, wife, age 50, b. Ky.;
> > Bridget, daughter, age 15, b. Ky.;
> > John Cameron, son, age 25, b. Ky. (flat Boatmen);
> > Daniel Devore, son, age 21, b. Ky. (flat Boatmen).
> > In 1870 Census, Record #10:
> > Chism, Benjamin F., head,, age 40, b. Ky.;
> > Mahulda, wife, age 44, b. Ky.;
> > Napolean, son, age 20, b. Ky.;
> > John A., son, age 18, b. Ky.;
> > Calvin, son, age 16, b/ Ky.;
> > Abram, son, age 13, b. Ky.;
> > Ann D., daughter, age 7, b. Ky.
> > Florence,, daughter, age 2, b. Ky.
> > [Columbia Chism who should have been 12 had died, at age 5
> > years and 1 month, her stone is broken, the date reads October
> > 11, 186_, she is buried along with Napolean, Florence, Ann D. and
> > Mahulda]
> >
> > Record #12 lists:
> > Troutman, Leonard, head, age 24, b. in Ky., farmer;
> > Troutman, Sarah E., wife, age 22, b. in Ky.;
> > Troutman, Mahulda J., daughter, age 8 mons. (she was born in
> > Nov. it is on her headstone.)
> >
> > Also, in the 1910 Census for Pemiscot County, Missouri, Record
> > 424/426:
> > Chism, Dovie C., head, age 53, second marriage, 3 years married,
> > born Ky., father born in Ky., Mother b. in Ky.;
> > Chism, Mollie, wife, age 32 *, married twice, b. Ky., Father b.
> > Tennessee*, mother b. Ky.;
> > Chism, Cora M., daughter, age 2, b. Missouri, f. in Ky., M. in Ky.;
> > Chism Dovie Jr., son, age 7 months, b. Missouri, f. in Ky., M in Ky.;
> > Gordon, Annie B., stepdaughter, age 6, b. in Arkansas**, father b.
> > in Missouri**, mother b. in Ky.; also states both Calvin and Mollie
> > could read & write English, that they rented farm #237, and that
> > this was in Cooter Township, (Steele). This is Film # 1374816 and
> > # 7091049. I found this 14 Sep 1993, 5 years after I went to Hayti
> > to look up all those other records.
> >
> > ** You will notice it states that Mollie's father was born in Tenn.,
> > (not Indiana like the death certificate) and that she is 32, yet the
> > death certificate said she was 28. You will further note that
> > Annabelle was born in Arkansas, so I looked for a marriage
> > certificate there for awhile, and a birth certificate for Annabelle, if
by
> > chance they were filed at that point. They didn't have to file until
> > 1915 in Missouri. Also, that Henry Gordon was born in Missouri. If
> > we can find Henry and Molly's marriage certificate we will have the
> > final proof we need that Molly's last name was indeed Brandon. (1.
> > Branden on Cora's birth certificate, 2. Brandon on Annabelle's
> > funeral records in Missouri, 3. Vest on Mollie's death certificate.)
> >
> > >From the records of Frances Shacklette Fast (1891-1968) provided
> > to me from her daughter Harriett Fast Scott of McLean, Va. - (there
> > should be a copy in the Meade Co. Public Library)
> >
> > Meade Co. Book of Marriages Book B #243, Md. Oct 28, 1848 by
> > Ervin Dailey, witness Richard Chism, Jr. Also (Mahaulda and
> > James Troutman marriage in Meade Co. marriage Book B, #61,
> > Md. May 4, 1845 by Madson Frans - Mother is Elizabeth Chism
> > and step father Richard Chism who gave consent.] Children as
> > follow:
> > Leonard Troutman, stepson, married Sarah Ellen Johnston;
> > James Chism, b. 1849, son who died young;
> > "Tabby Abe" Chism
> > John "Doc" Chism
> > Calvin "Dovey" Chism [Now here's some stuff that doesn't match
> > up: Married Eliza Allen on Oct. 7th, 1877 Book B, #33 at Ben
> > Ballard's, Bland Ballard on Bond, Wittness by David E. Johnson
> > and Charley A. Conner, married by W.H. Cowley]
> > Napolean Chism, son;
> > and Florence Chism, daughter, who died young and was soon to
> > be married so they buried her in her wedding dress - Mamo's told
> > me this too, must have been pretty well known. Florence, Napolean
> > and Mahulkda are all buried next to each other and their
> > headstones were still legiable the last time I was there.
> >
> > Now, Benjamin F. Chism was the son of John Chism (b. 1795) and
> > Margaret (b. 1797.) acccording to Frances Faust's records.
> > Mahulda was the daughter of John Cameron and Elizabeth (Devore -
> > her second marriage), she md. Richard Chism, Jr. in 1842, just 3
> > years before Mahulda md. James Troutman. The 1828 tax books
> > lists John and Richard Chism next to each other and James Chism
> > on the next page. The 1830 Census list James, John, Richard and
> > Thomas Chism.
> >
> > Also, for further records, There is the Chism Family Cemetary on
> > Stanley Chism Farm in Wolf Creek, Ky. that has bunches of them
> > buried there. I have lots more information on uncles, aunts,
> > cousins, all the Chism kin and they are thicker than fiddles in
> > Hades in both Meade Co., Ky. and in Pemiscot Co., Missouri, too.
> >
> > Now, it is bearing down on 4 pm and I have to get ready to go fly
> > and we haven't even got to the stuff that the e-mail was about., so,
> > I'll get in as much from my "notes" as I can:
> >
> > Notes for Calvin David Chisholm. Death Certificate File No. 7701.
> > States that birth date was 2 mar 1850, death caused by heart
> > failure, services held at graveside by rev. Huffman, funeral
> > arrangements by Jack Chism & Ray Furniture & Undertaking Co. in
> > Hayti for $100. Records in posession of Jimmy Osborne Funeral
> > Homes, Inc. of Hayti.
> >
> > Notes for Richard Chisholm (this is the one they are talking about
> > in the e-mail):
> >
> > Sources: Annie Louise (Hord) Cox - Eva Turner Clark Collection;
> > Deeds, Will: History of Kentucky by Allen (1872), page 398; First
> > will proved & recorded in Green County, Ky., Book 12, page 45,
> > Deed dated 4 Feb 1791, he was living there in 1789. It is said that
> > the cementary in which Richard and Ann are buried was leveled off
> > and a home built on the site using the gravestones in the patio form
> > and pouring concrete over them.
> > Richard and Ann sold their slaves in Virginia 19 JUn 1780. There
> > was 397 acres of land in Green County listed in the estate of
> > Richard Chisholm in 1816, being controlled by Benjamin Chisholm.
> > Survey was entered 8 Feb 1780.
> > >From 1803 until her death in 1808, Ann was in a court fight with
> > "Gentleman" John Smith over the ownershoip of "Flat Springs."
> >
> > Ann Long Chisholm died in 1808, Benjamin, executor, died in
> > 1838. The estate was suppose to have been settled after the deat
> > of Ann ion 1808; however, Benjamin controlled it until his death in
> > 1838 and then it was still was not settled until 1849, 11 years later
> > and 41 years after the death of Ann.
> >
> > Notes on James Chisholm:
> > James, the oldest son of Richard and Ann, married Barbary
> > (surname unknown) and is the father of John H. and Richard S.
> > Chisholm.
> > James sold 95 acres on Pittman's Creek to Robert Wickliff on 8 Jul
> > 1802 in Green Co., Ky.
> > Richard Chisholm died 16 Apr 1799 and James sold his rights to
> > any opart of the estate to his brother Benjamin, 27 Aug 1802. On
> > 24 Oct 1808, William Barret was appointed guardian to John H. &
> > Richard S. Chisholm, Minute Book 4 , page 187, Green Co., Ky.
> > James showed up in the 1810 census of Hardin Co., the 1820
> > census of Breckinridge Co., and the 1830 Census of Meade Co.
> > (Meade Co. was created in the 1820's from parts of Brekinridge and
> > Hardin Co.s] In May 1830, he sold to his son John: blacksmith
> > tools, gunsmith tools, furniture and his crops in the ground. James
> > was not found in the 1840 census.
> >
> > John & Richard, only sons of James Chisholm, heirs to portion of
> > Benjamin Chisholm estate (formally Richard Chisholm's). Deed BX
> > #1, page 219, 18Oct 1849, "Depositions"; 1795 Green County Tax
> > LIst. Deed Book 4, page 99, 11 JUl 1802, Green Co., Ky., and
> > page 5, 27 Aug 1802, Deed Book 5, page 370, 14 Oct 1808.
> >
> > Ok, this is where I leave off at this point.
> >
> > The census records prior to 1850 did not list names of any
> > members of the household, just sex and approx. age, other than
> > the head of household. In Meade Co., trhere is more than one
> > RichaRD, jOHN AND jAMES. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WE
> > ARE CONNECTED TO BETWEEN bENJAMIN f. cHISHOLM, WHO
> > some records indicate is the son of John and Margaret who were
> > born different dates and places than the James Chisholm of Green
> > Co. Chisholms.
> >
> > I have more, but I must go, I've only 45 minutes to pack and leave.
> > Hope all of you can follow all this. WE haven't even scratched the
> > surface yet.
> > Cuz,
> > Donna
> >
>
Hi Les:
Do you know Jane Wile's website? She has John and Elizabeth listed there, along
with 5 children. She doesn't have anything posted on Angus, John's father, but
she sometimes has info that is not yet posted to her site. Her master list is
very extensive, but hard to access. If you "Google" Genejane, you will get to her
home page. Just click on any surname to access the Database by clicking "View
Database" when it comes up. If you need more info let me know. I am looking for
parents of Alexander Chisholm, b~1763, m Mary MacDougald. Chisholms are fun!!??
Judi in Nova Scotia
LChish5677(a)aol.com wrote:
> Seeking information on my GG Grandparents ANGUS CHISHOLM and SARAH McDONALD.
> I don't know where they were born or in what town in Canada they lived.
> Their son JOHN CHISHOLM, b Feb 1838 married ELIZABETH McCULLOUGH, b 1 Jan
> 1838 in Stewiacke, Nova Scotia, on 1 Oct 1860 in Truro, Nova Scotia. JOHN and
> ELIZABETH had the following children: ANGUS, MARY ELLEN, MARTHA RACHEL,
> ANNABELLE, GARFIELD, WILLIAM, ALEXANDER, EDWARD and JOHN EDWARD. ELIZABETH'S
> parents according to her death certificate were, JAMES McCULLOUGH and
> Eleanor Andrews. JOHN and ELIZABETH relocated to central Minnesota during
> the 1870-72 timeframe.
> HELP....any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Les Chisholm
> Lacey, WA
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Seeking information on my GG Grandparents ANGUS CHISHOLM and SARAH McDONALD.
I don't know where they were born or in what town in Canada they lived.
Their son JOHN CHISHOLM, b Feb 1838 married ELIZABETH McCULLOUGH, b 1 Jan
1838 in Stewiacke, Nova Scotia, on 1 Oct 1860 in Truro, Nova Scotia. JOHN and
ELIZABETH had the following children: ANGUS, MARY ELLEN, MARTHA RACHEL,
ANNABELLE, GARFIELD, WILLIAM, ALEXANDER, EDWARD and JOHN EDWARD. ELIZABETH'S
parents according to her death certificate were, JAMES McCULLOUGH and
Eleanor Andrews. JOHN and ELIZABETH relocated to central Minnesota during
the 1870-72 timeframe.
HELP....any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.
Les Chisholm
Lacey, WA
To those interested.
We are looking for descendants of Thomas Chisholm who we believe emigrated to Pennsylvania from Scotland sometime after 1871.
Details of Thomas & his family that I have are as follows: -
Daniel Chisholm (b 1808 Ireland) married Marjory McLintock 18 July 1828 at Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland. Their issue was: -
A Daughter - name not known or birth date found.
WILLIAM Chisholm b 19 Aug 1830 at Neilston
Alexander Chisholm b 20 Aug 1832 at Neilston
THOMAS Chisholm b 18 July 1834 at Neilston
James Chisholm b 1837 at Neilston
David Chisholm b 1841 at Neilston
Another child b ? died at Neilston 1843
Thomas Chisholm married Frances Lawrie 15 July 1859 at Calton, Glasgow
Their Issue was: -
Daniel Chisholm b 7 April 1860 at Bridgton
Thomas re-married Janet Johnston 7 June 1861 at Cathcart, Renfrew
Their issue was as follows: -
Frances Lawrie Chisholm b. 23 March 1862 Anderston
James Johnstone Chisholm b. 10 Sept 1863 Anderston
Marquis Chisholm b. 25 July 1865 at Lnk High Church
Mary McDonald Chisholm b. 17 June 1867 Bridgeton
Helen Johnston Chisholm b. 18 June 1869 Bridgeton
Daniel Lawrie Chisholm b. 18 May 1871 Bridgeton
Scottish Census Records
Thomas Chisholm
1841 Lived in village of Neilston
1851 Lived at 52 Grace Street, Glasgow Cotton Worker in Factory
1861 Lived at 147 Stobcross Street, Glasgow Engine Fitter
1871 Lived at 51 Franklin Street, Glasgow Iron Turner
No trace of Thomas and his family after 1871
A Chisholm Clan researcher came up with the following Naturalization papers in Pittsburgh, Penn
(Allegheny, County of Pennsylvania): -
1877 Donald 1876-79 v4 sec 2 Source page 11
1887 Donald 1880-1887 v5 Source page 17
1886 James J 1880-1887 v5 Source page 17
1886 Marcus 1880-1887 Source page 18
1886 Thomas 1881-1891 v6 Source page 14
Pittsburgh Directory Listings
1877/78 Chisholm, Thomas, labourer, living Mary and 30th
1878/79 Chisholm, Thomas, machinist, Edwards Ave. N, 29th SW
1879/80 Chisholm, Thomas, machinist, 13th north Carson
Social Security Records: -
Marcus Chisolm, b 13 Oct 1978 and died 13 Nov 1995 Issued PA (1982 & 1983) SSN 175-62-4407 Last residence - unstated
Johnston Chisholm b. Jun 8 1907 and died 5 Apr 1984, Issued NJ (before 1951) SSN 151-03-3967 Last residence 94102 San Francisco CA
Chisholm residents of Area Code District 94102 do not have addresses listed. There is a J.Chisholm with phone No. 415-752-1050 but no address is available. Other Chisholms at the same Area Code 94102 District are as follows:-
Kami Chisholm 415/566-4613
Matt Chisholm 415/395-9321
Richard Chisholm 415/668-7727
Robert Chisholm 415/824-0280
To explain, I am descended from William Chisholm, Thomas' eldest brother who emigrated to New Zealand in 1875.
I live at Montrose, which is an outer eastern suburb of Melbourne. Although I was born in New Zealand, I have been living in Australia for 40 years. I look forward to hearing from anyone who may be some connection.
Kindest Regards
M.D. Chisholm - Mike
Hello folks!
I'm back home! And now to get settled and caught up on some things. Due
to changes and a buyout of my ISP, I am changing to another server.
My new email address is funyfarm(a)terraworld.net
My hit.net address is still active until I get everything changed over,
but if you need to contact me personally go ahead and use the new one. I
have to make a lot of changes in a lot of places, and hope I don't miss
some.
Thanks to all of you who have supported me in your thoughts and prayers.
Many blessings to you,
Deah
List Admin.
Antoinette,
Hi, sorry your Chisholm's are not connected to mine. I hope some one
of the Chisholm's will be able to help you. Good Luck in your research.
Patricia (Maes) Chisholm
Good Morning,
I am trying to find information on Bridget, she was a slave belonging to
David ChisholmeJr., Lousia County, Virginia. In 1809 he moved to Rocky Creek
Plantation in Chester, South Carolina, he took her with him, and some other
slaves. I am trying to find out more about the her and the other slaves that
he took. I am hoping that someone who is researching this family may have
slave information and can share it with me. I have ordered a couple of books
from the Louisa County Historical Society, and it List a Ned Chisholm who is
African American Belonging to the Little River Baptist Church, H e has the
same name of my great great grandfather, and I was wondering if there is any
connection since his mother came from Louisa County. I would love to hear
from all Chisholms black and white. Looking forward to hearing from soon.
Antoinette Russell
Deah,
Good Luck in getting your home back in order. Hope things get easier
for you.
I know what you had to go through with a family reunion (on my mothers
side), I have one set up for June 23 that I work on every year.
Patricia (Maes) Chisholm
My apologies to you all. Things have been in an uproar on the home front
lately. We had a family reunion weekend before last that I had been working
on since last year. And the usual spring/early summer jobs outside were
keeping me busy.
To top it off, a week ago Sunday, a storm came through and blew our
mobile home off it's foundation. We have been having to stay in town ever
since. I am out here for a while today, and trying to catch up on mail. I
have one phone line back in service, and we have power again obviously. But
there is much work yet to be done.
They got the trailer moved back on the foundation evening before last,
and blocked and leveled yesterday. Today they anchored it back down.
I'm still not sure where this all will end up. We have requested the
adjustor come back out, as we keep finding more problems. The flooring has
pulled away from the floor joists, the roof dips and sways, and the front
door, frame and all, is out of kilter.
We're hoping to be able to move back in tomorrow, but still won't have
gas, water, or sewer lines. But
we are survivors and we can use a sump pump to get water if we need it.
There is still roof and siding repairs, and the central air was wiped out,
so it has to be replaced.
I had really thought that once I got through the reunion, things would
settle down and I could get back to being more busy with lists. Silly me!
:O)
So I do apologize for my silence, and hopefully now things will start
leveling back out.
Deah