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Re: Hugh Niven- Chisholm Genealogy Now I'm passing this on to you under the clear understanding that it is premature to be asking Sister Clare genealogical questions, however if she were to arrive at the Bishop's office with a stack of e-mails of encouragement for this project, well I guess it wouldn't hurt.
Let's hear it for Sister Petra Clare.
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: Petra Clare
To: Hugh Niven
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Hugh Niven- Chisholm Genealogy
Dear Mr. Niven,
Thankyou for your e-mail. We are at present waiting for permission to go ahead from the Bishop and Diocesan Finance Commitee but I do not think that will present any problems. Basically the idea is to set up the old school, which is next door to Marydale Church (on land gifted by the Chisholms!) as a Cannich Heritage Centre. The idea is it will have an exhibition and some kind of trail to local places of historic interest. The exhibition will concentrate on the history of Cannich and the surrounding glens and have a section for Chisholm history and genealogy. The idea of having somewhere for Chisholm genealogy came from me, as we get several visitors to the church each year trying to trace Chisholm ancestry, as of course we are the nearest place to Comar and Clachan Comar is looked after by the parish. I thought if we could fix up something here which would act as a kind of focus and sorting house for Chisholm ancestry, including a guest book, where people whose ancestors were born in this area can pit down what is known of them, we could over a period maybe fit together a lot of lost strands. Of course it is a smallish/medium hall so it is not going to be a huge display, but the Chisholm history of the Glens ought to be an important part of it. If you know of people who would be interested to help, either by providing information (including old photos/artifacts) or by providing funding, we would be interested to hear from them.
What I haven't said is that it will be the Cannich Community Council who will be responsible for putting together and maintaining the exhibition. This is of course dependant on permission from the Aberdeen Diocese, who own the building, to go ahead. I delayed writing to you, as I am hoping to get a green light any day now, please God!
Regards!
Sister Petra Clare
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From: "Hugh Niven" <nivenh(a)securenet.net>
To: "Petra Clare" <sancti.angeli(a)ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Hugh Niven- Chisholm Genealogy
Date: Fri, Jan 19, 2001, 12:50 pm
Thank you Sister Petra Clare, The Heritage Centre sounds like a great Idea. Please tell me a little more about it. Lots of Interested parties here who might wish to help with funding such a project. If you knew how many people were researching Strathglass Chisholm's, well, I guess you already know that.
Thanks Hugh
The following was written by Donald Chisholm, Domhnall Gobbha (Donald the Blacksmith) , a native of Strathglass who emigrated to Antigonish Co. N.S. in 1803.
I WAS YOUNG IN STRATHGLASS
(When) I was young in Strathglass
I had no thought of leaving there;
now that the gallant men have gone
I, too, shall leave
My hair is now grey
after all I have seen;
although I must set forth,
I have little zest for doing so.
Though my step is heavy
I will stir my spirit with song.
When I embark on the ship,
who will challenge me?
The coward who now rules us
evicted his own, few remain;
he prefers sheep in the hills
to a kilted retinue
There is no cordial agreement,
no hearing for the poor man;
if one does not raise sheep in the glens
he brings himself to penury.
When I was young and strong
I could earn my living in many ways;
now that my vigour is spent
I am in want.
We shall get grants from the King;
he will make us proprietors.
We shall not be like the generations
who paid tribute to Caesar.
Do not fear the sea;
mind how the Red Sea is divided.
The powers of God above
are as strong today as on the very first day.
----------------------------
I have this on page one paragraph one of my notes.
Always rely on the thoughts and opinions of a soldier in the field. (Someone who was there at the time.)
Hugh
You should visit Kilmorack.com
Maybe we should acknowledge the effort and let the site manager know that we here in N.A. support sites such as this.
They seem open to input.
Hugh
I think you have to have who wrote it and when but I'm sure there is a place
here in the cyber world that has all ihe real info. But I think it is a
great idea also.
Cecilia
We would need to check with some one about putting portions of a book on a
web site. I do know that as long as the copyright is in effect, you can't.
The copyright law was changed in I believe 1978. If I can find my notes from
a genealogy seminar i took, I will pass on what info I have. I am sure others
have more information than I do. It is a great idea.
Louise
What if we were to have a web site where Chisholm's could go to obtain general background information, concerning the events in history which affected this group of People.
Is it illegal to have a web site in which portions of famous books are printed.
Culloden
By John Prebble
Penguin Books of Canada
Glencoe: The Story of the Massacre
By John Prebble
Penguin Books of Canada
Highland Clearances
By John Prebble
Penguin Books of Canada
The People's Clearance: Highland Emigration to British North America 1770-1815
By Jack Bumstead
Columbia University Press
The History of the Highland Clearances
By Alexander MacKenzie
State Mutual book and periodical
The Highland Scots of North Carolina, 1752-1776
By Duene G. Meyer
The History of the Chisholm's
By Alexander MacKenzie
1891
and the list goes on. I guess each of us has bought at least one of these books over the years. Let's hear from the Lawyers and the Webmasters.
Hugh
Randie,
We have our family back to Ca 1650 parish Kilmorac(k), Inverness, Scotland,
beginning with Alexander Chisholm. It was two of his grandsons ,Thomas & John
that came to America. In 1755 , He ( Thomas) received an English Crown Land
Grant St. Matthew Parish, Ga. Source of this was English Crown Grants of St.
Matthew Parish by Silas Emmitt Lucas.
I have been working on the family off & on for over 25 yrs. I also have
cousins( which I met through genealogy) that have been working many yrs. We
kind of pooled our information and got enough books out for the family last
summer. Yes, there are mistakes in it, but all in all it is very helpful for
family members who want some history on the family.
There are so many Chisholm, Chisolm, Chisum, Chisam, Chisham, etc and some
where along the line they are all related.
They are having the International Chisholm Clan gathering in Scotland in
July of the yr. I really wanted to go, but it looks as tho some health
problems will prevent it at this time.
If I can help you , I will be happy to.
Louise
Fran,
I don't have the picutres at this time, I am due to get them back shortly. A
cousin in Mississippi has them to make copies.
Will let you know.
Louise
Hi Louise,
I've traced my Chisholm clan back to Rescobie, Angus & Fannell, Dundee. Before
that I believe they were in Inverness area. Is this anywhere near your clan
hailed from? My info is starting in 1823.
Randie
Fran & Dave Smith wrote:
> Louise,
> Can you tell me how I can get parish records from that are other than
> protestant? As I have a blank with the protestant records, I will have to
> start searching other records in the Kilmorack Parish.
> Many thanks,
> Fran
> New Zealand
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Luwing1(a)aol.com>
> To: <CHISHOLM-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHISHOLM] Chisholm Ideas
>
> > Paul,
> > Most of the Chisolms that I have researched were Presbyterian. In Kilmorac
> > Scotland.One Rev. Thomas chisholm was Minister. Two of his sons came to
> this
> > country as young men. I don't have the exact date, but my Thomas Chisolm
> was
> > in Ga. He married in 1772 and was a Captain in the Continental Line in Ga.
> >
> > The Surnames of Scotland by George F, Black is a very good book on origin
> of
> > surnames. Most Genealogy Library has the book.
> >
> > I have worked on my line for over 20 yrs. It took a long time to prove my
> > line was from Scotland.
> >
> > Happy Hunting
> >
> > Louise
> >
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Patsy
Thanks Louise, A friend in Australia Scanned the entire book and put it on
CD and mailed it to me. You gotta love those tecky dudes.
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: <Luwing1(a)aol.com>
To: <CHISHOLM-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CHISHOLM] Chisholm Ideas
> Hugh,
> Thanks for the tip to join the Inverness group. I have supported Rootsweb
> before
> they sold to Ancestry.com. They do a good job. Are you familia with the
> History of Chisholms by A W Mackenzie's it was complied in 1891 and deal
with
> South Carolina Chisholms I don't know if this will help you are not, but
it
> was just a thought.
>
> Louise
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I came across a web site that I thought I would share with Chisholm people on this list. It is
http://www.darkisle.com/e/erchless/chisholm.html
These are photos of huge Celtic crosses as gravestones. I have no idea who sleeps beneath these stones but are not they a wonderful contrast to those tiny bits of marble being used today? Check it out.
Paul
Hugh,
Thanks for the tip to join the Inverness group. I have supported Rootsweb
before
they sold to Ancestry.com. They do a good job. Are you familia with the
History of Chisholms by A W Mackenzie's it was complied in 1891 and deal with
South Carolina Chisholms I don't know if this will help you are not, but it
was just a thought.
Louise