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I'm passing this bit along in hope of helping a very nice lady.
Deah
Here is what she said:
All I know is that John Wesley
Knight and Martha Ellen Stewart m. 1869 in Ripley,TN. Her parents were
John Stewart and ? Chism, Chisom,or Chisolm. I have no more info.I look
through everything pertaining to Chism to see if I can find a female
that m. a Stewart. That's all I know to do.Thank you so much for taking
an interest in me.
This really is a neat page. You may ask what does this have to do with
genealogy? Well, it helps gain insight to how our ancestors lived, and there
are links here that do have some surnames and family history information as
well.
Enjoy,
Deah
http://waltonfeed.com/old/
Forwarded with permission. Thought this was an interesting bit.
Deah
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cecilia D." <papllion(a)mnsinc.com>
To: <CHISHOLM-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: [CHISHOLM] Fw: Family of John Chism and wife, Margaret Tibbs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BETH78248(a)aol.com
> To: Bsiosal48(a)cs.com
> Cc: papllion(a)mnsinc.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:30 PM
> Subject: Family of John Chism and wife, Margaret Tibbs
>
>
> Hello Mr. Chism:
>
> By way of introduction I am Barbara Harrell of San Antonio, TX, current
> Registrar General of the National Society DAR.
>
> I am currently working on the papers of our new First Lady, Laura Bush,
who
> descends from Barbara (Barbara Ann) Chism who married in Meade Co., KY, 30
> December, 1841 William Allen (believed to be a son of Marshall and Mary
> Polly
> Daily Allen).
>
> I believe that Barbary (Barbara Ann) Chism was a daughter of John Chisum
and
> Margaret Tibbs Chism who appear on the 1850 and 1860 Meade Co., KY
censuses.
> In the Hawkins family Bible appears the birth date for Margaret Chism as
26
> March, 1791; however, I believe that the year was misinterpreted and
should
> read 1797 - this would comply with Margaret Chism's age as shown in the
1850
> &
> 1860 census.
>
> Regarding your posting on Gen Forum - often times the designation of Sr.
or
> Jr. is used to identify the elder and younger men with the same given name
> even though the middle names may not conform. Regardless, the fact that
> your
> John M. Chism and wife Elizabeth had a daughter named Barbara and son
named
> Marshall helps to tie Barbary (Barbara Ann) Chism Allen to the family of
> John
> & Margaret Tibbs Chism.
>
> I have established data on the marriage of the parents, Tibbs grandparents
&
> Wiseman great-grandparents in return for any information you can share on
> the
> Chism family. Do you know of a good record researcher in Meade Co? I
have
> a
> good contact who resides across the border in Floyd Co. who is assisting
me
> in this research.
>
> Thanks,
> Barbara Harrell
> (Mrs. John K.)
> San Antonio, TX
>
What a great week! I was contacted by not one, but two cousins! Thanks to
cousin J. B., I have been able to add photos of John House Jr., and Beulah
to the "Cousin John House, Uncle Poly, & Others" page. It's so great to see
the family grow!!
I wanted to get the photos up, as tomorrow the site will be down for
scheduled maintenance. So any of you who are on RootsWeb mailing lists, have
sites there, or are thinking of looking tomorrow, remember everything will
be temporarily down.
With the problems I'm having with my mail, I hope you all get this in
time, if you want to see the pictures before maintenance begins.
Deah
I am relaying this message on from RootsWeb. It also was announced in
RootsWeb Review, in case you missed it.
So don't be alarmed if lists and sites are not running for a little
while. I'll still be available if you need me, in the meanwhile.
Deah
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Thank you for your patience.
My gosh, I just heard from another cousin. He is descended from Annette
Jane Chisham Childers. Here's the url for his pages.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brianl/genealogy.html
Yippee!!! That's two new ones this week. Have another one who is descended
from Julia's half sister Irene.
Deah
I guarantee it!! Who's William Dinwiddy? Tiss??
>From: "Deah" <funyfarm(a)hit.net>
>Reply-To: CHISHAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHISHAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [CHISHAM] DeHonney?
>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:16:04 -0600
>
> Ok, brain picking time. What do you suppose is the chance of this James
>Dehauney being James DeHoney? (DeHonney). If so, this would be Julia
>Chisham's grandfather, Lucy's father.
>Deah
>
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyscott/Scott1800tax_pt1.htm
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This I believe is Julia's grandfather, paternal side. Benjamin Stribling.
Does anyone know what these records might show, and how to obtain them?
Thanks,
Deah
Ok, brain picking time. What do you suppose is the chance of this James
Dehauney being James DeHoney? (DeHonney). If so, this would be Julia
Chisham's grandfather, Lucy's father.
Deah
http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyscott/Scott1800tax_pt1.htm
I got another page up on the site today. It is a compilation of the
information in Dora's writings about Cousin John House, Uncle Poly, &
Others. What a story!
Deah
The final part of the story.
Deah
"Uncle Shelby West was now working for a big syndicate, The Colorado Gold
Mining Co. of Laurette, Colo. He formed an Overland Freight Train consisting
of 40 wagons, each drawn by 5 or 6 yoke of oxen to haul machinery out to the
mine at Laurette (125 miles southwest of Denver). We left Leavenworth Sept.
1, 1865 expecting to reach our destination in 2 months but owing to
difficulties, such as the over fat cattle crossing the plains then the snow
storms in the mountains, we didn't reach the mines until Dec. 14. We were to
get our board and $50.00 per mo. I (John) soon became boss of the
"Roustabouts" at $125.00 per mo. We ran the scow ( an inverted sled) to pack
the snow, hence cutting driveways thru the mountains. They all called me
Capt. House. After 2 years of scouting in the Rickies, I rode back home to
raise and educate my youngest three sisters. I married the finest girl in
the whole country, Alice Moberly, age 17, while I was 48 (1886). She has
been my pride and joy at all times and is the fond young mother of Luther,
John, Homer, and Ivy. I told her what a mean devil I was and to just beat me
good with the broomstick but to never refer to it afterwards. I (Dora) never
met a more harmonious couple - Alice's wish is the law of the household and
John Thomas House looks to her and the boys for everything and goes about
his chores singing "O, Then to the Rock Let Me Fly". He is now 82 years
(1920) and enjoying good health and a bright active mind and has outlived
nearly all his immediate family."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Amazing! I also have a scanned copy of a couple of pages from the book,
"History Of Jackson County." It supports the information given in Dora's
writings. I also have a scanned image from the book that is a picture of
John and his family. I am very grateful to a kind lady who did the lookups
and sent these to me. I would love to find a copy of the book to purchase.
If anyone wants these, just let me know and I'll send them to you.
Deah
"He rode back to Mo. and re-enlisted under Col. Joe Shelby and
volunteered to go as an advance guard to reconnoiter, so was out of their
reach when they sent for him to inquire into his former desertion.
At their next hard fight the Confederates were defeated and driven down
into Texas, but again John told them that he was a "home guard". So once
more he departed them and made his way back to Independence, which was now
the Federal stronghold to try to rout out the "Bush-whackers" of Mo. and the
Jay-hawker bands of Kans., who were becoming so dangerous along the border.
The dreadful "Order No. 11" was then issued which gave only 15 days for all
settlers to vacate the tier of counties (4) bordering on Kans., in the hope
of starving out these unflinching raiders. They had grown so terrible, now
they were called "Garillas" and were led principally by Quantrell, Todd and
Pool. Quantrell had distinguished himself so much by his treacherous deeds
that he slipped away to Virginia and received a comission from Jeff Davis.
There was no one left here now to help John defend the Home Guard, so he
joined Quantrell's band. He says "They could not starve us out, we knew the
whole country by heart." We would live around in the brush, and on a cerain
day, according to previous orders, we all rode from our hiding places in all
directions so as to meet at a certain place at the appointed hour, this way
they never could track us. On one of these occasions 40 of us Garillas were
gathered, when our advance guard rode right on to a troop of Federal
soldiers coming out from Independence, which were mostly Colo. troops under
Capt. Wagner. They chased us like blazes over the hills and thru the timber
until we came out on an open field, and Quantrell ordered us to all
dismount, let our horses go and fight "like hell." I thought my doom was
sealed when I no longer had my horse to carry me to the brush. This was the
hardest fight I ever saw. Dick Kinney was next to me and he killed Capt.
Wagner - all told we got 60 of their men, while they wounded some of our
horses. I had lost $350.00 worth of horses and mules, driven off with my
father's stock. I was with Quantrell two years but we all surrenered with
Shelby's Division at Shreveport, La."
The House family story by Dora Childers Stanley continues:
"John Thomas House was born Jan. 22, 1838, 4 1/2 miles S. of
Independence, Mo. He grew up with the sterling qualities belonging to the
frontiersmen and with the bravery and initiative that goes with the oldest
of a large bustling family who have to make thir own opportunities. John was
very fond of music and was an active promotor of the Pioneer Singing School
even before they used the buckwheat notes. As he progressed, he became an
agent for musical instruments and took orders for all kinds, especially the
piano dulcimer, from Independence to St. Louis.
During the Border Warfare in 1856 when Kansas was being "squated" on by
Missourians to help vote her a slave state, John was urged to go and help
vote her black to save their own negroes. His father - grand Uncle Eli -
advised him to not accept their fine offers and persuasion but to remain at
home and do his own work and let Kans. settle her own troubles. This he did,
but he enlisted as one of the 1st Cavalry organized in Jackson Co. for "home
protection," was sworn in by Col. Rains and given over to Col. Hays
detachment as a Mo. Home Guard. The Governor of Marmaduke, Mo. was a
Confederate, so of course used the home guards to help defend their cause.
John was in that terrible Rock Creek fight under Captain Pierce, where the
Confeds were badly defeated. When they headed for Ark. John told them "No, I
am sworn in as a home guard, I don't leave the state," so he ran away and
made his way back to the old stamping ground. The evening before this battle
Col. Hayes had ridden up and called "House, Genison's men shot your father
and burned his home last night." John said if they would let him alone to
take care of his mother's family, he would not take sides with either army,
so he rode out West to his Aunt Julia Chisham's in Atchison Co. and was
cuttingtimber with Uncle Will Hodges down on the Republican River, when
Grandma's neighbors warned her of harboring a "rebel." Aunt Mag grew uneasy
so sent John's horse to him in the night and he quietly rode away, never
again to look into the face of Aunt Mag, until our memorable visit there 55
years later."
Boy, I tell you, the more I read of the family's experiences, the more in
awe I am of what they went through. What a treasure this information is.
Deah
"Cousin John House enjoys wonderful mental activity at the age of 81
years, and seems to be held in high esteem by everyone, and tells us most
thrilling and interesting stories of their frontier life during the Border
warfare back in the 50's & 60's. He sketches his father's life thus:
Eli House was born in Kentucky in 1804 but was reared in Shelby Co.
Indiana. When 18 years of age he grew tired of the lack of harmony with his
step-mother and started West "between two days" on a French leave and a fine
black horse belonging to his father. He worked for 9 years around Liberty,
Mo. then came on West to Independence where he met and married Irene West
(Grandma's half sister) in 1836. They "entered" and improved the 80 acres
and replaced their old log cabin in 1856 with a fine big farm house, but in
1861 the Union Soldiers stationed at Independence, came and questioned him
about some "bush-whackers" whom they were trailing and disappeared near
here. He had not seen them and was a good loyal citizen, but believing him
to be a Southern sympathizer and accusing him of feeding the
"bush-whackers", the soldiers ran their bayonets under the strings of the
dulcimer (piano) to ruin it, broke up the furniture, tore off the weather
boarding from the NW corner of the house, took a shovel full of coals from
the fireplace and pouring them on the windy side, soon laid the house in
ashes. Great Uncle Eli was then taken prisoner, ordered to round up his
cattle and horses and help drive them toward Independence. Half a mile down
the road in the timber they shot him. Aunt Irene heard the shot and went and
found him, and with the assistance of her two daughters, Winnie age 18 and
Shelby Ann 16 they carried him home and laid his remains here by the pile of
ashes, marking their blighted hopes. He left 8 children ranging from 2 to
22, John being the oldest. The family then moved over into Ray Co. Mo. but 3
years later (1864) some influential business men of Independence sent fro
them to come back to their place to board the men who were cutting the Mo.
Pacific R. R. through that country."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** *
----- Original Message -----
From: "BARBARA CORSO" <bjc038(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CHISHAM-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CHISHAM] Kicking myself!!
> Do I get a turn?? LOL Just Kidding, you're my best cousin buddy. ?
Sounded
> strange huh?? I need to take time to sit down and read the bio. I'm going
> to EKU Archives tomorrow w/Donna and see what else I can find> Any
> requests???
Yeah, see if the lab has my brain ready.
ROFL
You know I got this after I got the other one about where Thomas was born.
Now I'm goin nuts trying to find where she said that, ROFL
.....is banging head against the wall..............
Just goes to show they all travelled together.
>From: "Deah" <funyfarm(a)hit.net>
>Reply-To: CHISHAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHISHAM-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [CHISHAM] "Whence Comest Thou......
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:10:00 -0600
>
>One more bit from Dora's writings. Had this under my nose for a long time
>and didn't know what I had. Sheesh!
>Deah
>
>
> "WHENCE COMEST THOU and WHITHER DOST THOU WANDER?"
> "Away back in the early 1830's, a caravan of the following good
>country
>folks journeyed from Kentucky "out west" and "entered" homes in and around
>Independence, Mo., then a mere trading post. Today (1919) it is a city of
>16,000 inhabitants, a suburb of Kansas City, which was not yet thought of.
> Willis and Jimmie DeHonney (brothers of my great Grandmother West)
> James and Lucy West (my great grandparents, maternal)
> Hadley and Winifred Head (Grandma Chisham's only OWN sister)
> Thomas and Julia (our dear old maternal Grandmother Chisham)"
>
>
>
>
>
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