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Hello Childress researchers,
This posting regards the headings I have used on my Excel Spreadsheet of
DNA results and on FTDNA website's spreadsheet of DNA results.
The "Viking Childress/Childers grouping have, to date, either a 37 or 38
value at the DNA site called CDY-b on the Y-chromosome. In the past on
my spreadsheet I have called these two groups, "Abraham" and "Philemon".
Our working model is that the CDY-b-37 was a marker that mutated in
America to become a CDY-b-38 marker for some lineages. Therefore those
with the 38 marker are a branch off the trunk of the tree, a tree which
carries a CDY-b-37 marker.
We think the common ancestor to those who have the CDY-b-38 marker is an
Abraham Childress/Childers born circa 1672 married to "Pew". Our
working model is that this Abraham was the source of the mutation to the
CDY-b-38 marker.
We think that the common ancestor to those with the CDY-b-37 mutation is
an Unknown British Common Ancestor, who lived and died in the British
Isles, who never immigrated to America and whose birth predates 1630.
The DESCENDANTS of this Unknown British Common Ancestor immigrated to
America and includes Philemon born 1630 but also includes others who
were distant relatives but not direct descendants of Philemon born 1630
and who all carried the CDY-b-37 marker. Therefore, I am amending the
nomenclature Mark and I use in grouping DNA results. I am now dropping
the nomenclature "Viking Philemon b. 1630" and substituting "Viking
CDY-b-37.
Nothing is known absolutely. 37 values can mutate to 38. 38 values can
mutate to 37, though the greatest probability is to increase the value.
Multiple lineages can arrive at the same values by different roads and
independently of each other. But for now, for the purposes of the
research Mark and I are doing, I have clustered mutations together. All
is subject to change.
Thanks
Gary
P.S. This points up the value of finding mutations that are shared with
others. Shared mutations suggest a shared common ancestor. FTDNA offers
for $99 an upgrade from 37 to 59 markers (or upgrade from 25 to 59
markers for $149), that may permit some of you to find shared mutations
with others and join those lineages together. It's a good value. Now
that tax season is over, I'd encourage EVERYBODY TO UPGRADE TO 59
markers. 3 people have ordered upgrade tests but everybody should get
involved. We need each other.to compare results. Our little surname
group has a whopping 61 members.let's compare 59 markers and see what we
find. When paper records run out, DNA is all that we have left to look
at. Please don't take your DNA, your ancestor's DNA, to your grave
without leaving a record of what it says. The adventure of discovery
hasn't ended. And especially the "Celtic" DNA group needs more markers
desperately. We need more information on the date of their shared
Celtic ancestor. We are looking for a Common Ancestor for the Celtic
Group right at the inception of surnames in the Middle Ages. We are
looking for specific values at specific sites on the Y-chromosome that
may tie all Celtic Childresses together. We are living on fumes and
vapors. More markers.. PLEASE.. UPGRADE. EVERYBODY. Contact me if you
want to upgrade and I'll get FTDNA to start the process.
Cathlene C.,
Thank you for your thoughtful & reasoned email. I agree with you that
the "identifier" we chose for Thomas, posited father of Henry Childress
(m. Susanna Goolsby), is tenuous. We struggled with what "identifier"
to use because almost nothing is known about Thomas Childress, Sr. which
could be used. In hindsight, we were perhaps too much influenced by the
presence of his son Thomas Childress, Jr. in Charlotte Co., Va. [4 Nov
1776, DB 4: __ ] Your points are well taken. We shall adopt the
identifier "Thomas Childress ("son of Henry Childress m. Lucretia
Jones") or "Thomas Childress "s/o HC&LJ" instead; or perhaps "Thomas
Childress (bro./o Henry Childress m. Mary Farmer)." We ll post a
corregium/revision to Monograph 3 to ameliorate the confusion.
Regards.
Mark Childress
Cathlene C.,
Thank you for your thoughtful & reasoned email. I agree with you that
the "identifier" we chose for Thomas, posited father of Henry Childress
(m. Susanna Goolsby), is tenuous. We struggled with what "identifier"
to use because almost nothing is known about Thomas Childress, Sr. which
could be used. In hindsight, we were perhaps too much influenced by the
presence of his son Thomas Childress, Jr. in Charlotte Co., Va. [4 Nov
1776, DB 4: __ ] Your points are well taken. We shall adopt the
identifier "Thomas Childress ("son of Henry Childress m. Mary Farmer")
or "Thomas Childress "s/o HC&MF" instead. Well post a
corregium/revision to Monograph 3 to ameliorate the confusion.
Regards.
Mark Childress
Mark and Gary,
I've continued to search on the Edward Bowman married Anna Childress question. I found the following in a Kay post of 2000 on Hugh Childress:
"Henry B. Childers, born 1678 in Curles, Henrico Co, Virginia; died 16
May 1727 in Henrico Co, Virginia. He was the son of Abraham Jr.
Childers and 1621. Ann Pew. He married Lucretia Jones 15 September 1708.
Lucretia Jones, born 1688 in Henrico Co, Virginia; died Aft. 1727 in
<Henrico Co, Virginia>. She was the daughter of Thomas Jones and
Martha/Mary Tanner.
Children of Henry Childers and Lucretia Jones are:
i.Nancy Ann Childers, born Abt. 1710 in Henrico Co, Virginia; died Aft.
1746 in Augusta, Richmond, Georgia; married Richard III Womack 1730.
ii.Anna Childers, born Abt. 1720 in Henrico Co, Virginia; died Aft.
1793; married Edward Bowman."
It raises an interesting possibility. The Bowmans I cited may have had their Henrys off by a generation. If so, Anna was the sister of Henry and Thomas rather than the daughter of Henry, so that it is possible that the sons Henry and John you attribute to Thomas ( and which I maintain that if they were, they must have been minors in 1752) could have initially come to Amherst to live with Edward Bowman and Anna while working the land patented by Henry.
However,I still think there is much work to do re the dates and that there is still much to explain re your hypothesis.
Con
Subject: Conduff Postings
Conduff,
I wanted to let you know that I am aware of your recent postings and
questions. At the moment I am overcommitted and very tired, and will
have to kick a response down the road a month or so. It appears you
raise some interesting questions.
Ill get back to you later.
Regards,
Mark
Mark and Gary,
I've been looking at materials relating to those listed in your timeline:
Timeline: As a result, a timeline emerges for the family of Henry
Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer), viz:
* 1713 = Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) is born. [working back
from date of marriage c.1738 <minus> 25 years]
* 1727 = Henry Childress 1st (m. Lucretia Jones) dies.
* 1738 = Henry Childress 2nd marries Mary Farmer. [pegged to birth of
eldest son John (m. Armstrong & Hicks) b.c. 1740]
Children of Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary Farmer):
* 1740 = John Childress, Sr. (m. Armstrong & Hicks) is born.
* 1742 = Lucretia is born.
* 1744 = Phebia is born.
* 1746 = Ann is born.
* 1748 = Henry 3rd ["of 1787 Bedford Co., Va"] is born.
* 1750 = Thomas is born.
* 1752 = Millicent is born.
* 1754 = Mary is born.
* 1756 = Godfrey is born.
* 1758 = Sarah is born.
* 1760 = David (m. Gaines) is born. [per Revolutionary War pension
declaration]
The following two come from the Lunenburg County, VA Order books [Data originally provided me sometime back by Lee Rau in another context].
October 4, 1757 Sarah Farmer, widow Benja Farmer decd, granted admons his will; John Childress witness; Henry Isbell, Henry Childress security. Lunenburg Virginia County Court Order Book 4 at 384.
September 6, 1758 Church wardens Cumberland Parish to bind Thos Wilborn, orphan John Wilborn decd, to John Childress. Lunenburg Virginia County Court Order Book 5 at ____.
It seems to me highly doubtful that the court would bind an orphan to someone under 21. And, since John was the sole witness for Sarah Farmer, I would expect him to have been 21 then, otherwise they probably would have chosen someone else.
While I cannot vouch for the Bowman records, they claim that Edward Bowman married Henry's daughter Anna (Ann in the will) with children born in the 1750's. The property (138 acres from a tract of 276 acres which Henry purchased of William Cabell) has an interesting subsequent history after William and Susannah sold it to William Hix. William Hix of County of Amherst sold it to Edward Bowman, county of Amherst, 7 Dec 1772 [Amherst County Book C , p. 159], who sold it to William Goosbey , of Amherst [Book D, p. 394]. [Amherst conveyances from Bowman Genealogy by Charles W. Bowman, 1912]
Unfortunately, your whole argument regarding Henry, who married Susannah, is based on this timeline. It would appear that some of the children were born earlier than you suggest. I would strongly urge you to try to find supporting data for births of the children beyond that of David, the last child. It is well known that frequently the last child sometimes comes along a number of years after the others, making your method of extrapolating back from that child of dubious value.
Con
Mark and Gary,
I'm not sure what a lawyer means when he says "I will take your questions
under advisement", but my gut feeling is that this is just a polite way of
continuing to dodge the questions posed. Since I brought up the question
of dates in a previous post, it is appropriate that I follow through by
first pointing out some errors in that regard found in Mark and Gary's
post. First, here is what Mark and Gary said:
The family tree for Henry Childress "cultivator" (m. Susannah Goolsby)
is provisionally this:
* Abraham (T) Childres [sic] "the Emigrant" (b.c.1630, d.c.1679), of
Curles, Henrico County, Virginia; father of . . .
* Abraham Childres/ers [sic] (b.c.1655, d.c.1698, m. Anne __ ); father
of . . .
* Henry Childress, 1st (b.c. 1680, d. 1726, m. Lucretia Jones); father
of . . .
* Thomas Childress 1st/Sr. (b.c. 1705, "of Charlotte Co., VA"); father
of . . .
* Henry Childress "cultivator" (b.c.1730, m. Susannah Goolsby) of
Mullenaxe Creek, Albemarle Co., Virginia (& latterly of Huff's Creek and
lower Pedlar River, 18th Century Amherst Co., Virginia)
Now, based on the transcription of the will of their "Henry Childress,
1st", from Pat Spurling's CCFA article "WILLS, DEEDS, INDENTURES
CHILDERS/ CHILDRES, CHILDRY, CHILDRESS FAMILIES OF VIRGINIA 1656 - 1791",
the date that Henry made his will was not until 1727
"WILL OF HENRY CHILDERS
HENRICO COUNTY, VA
MAY 16, 1727"
so that he could not have died in 1726 as claimed.
Moreover, his son Thomas could not have been born in 1705 since the will
specifically mentions "My will is that if either of my sons die in minority
before they arrive to lawful years that the survivor enjoy all that I
bequeath to both of them, and if both my sons die in their minority that
their parts be equally divided among my four daughters above named.", so
that Thomas could not have been born prior to May 17, 1706. The particular
wording of this minority sentence and the lack of mention of anything in
this regard when the will was proved on Sept. 4, 1727 in Henrico Court,
leaves the impression that Thomas still had some time to go before he
became 21. In order to resolve the question we must look elsewhere.
Back to your favorite, Dennstedt, we find the following: "Henry Childers
married Lucretia Jones, probably in 1710 since on 1 Aug. 1710 he
acknowledged at an Orphans Court having received the estate of his wife
"who was Lucretia Jones ." [Pauline Pearce Warner, Orphans Court Book,
1677-1739, of Henrico County; Virginia ('rappahannock, Va., 1963), p. 102.]
Why did she make the interpretation of probably married in 1710? It seems
to me she is saying that Henry took his first legal opportunity to get
Lucretia's estate. This seems a reasonable conclusion, and I think the
burden of proof falls to anyone who claims otherwise. Thus it seems
reasonable to assume that Thomas could not have been born before 1710 and
possible not until 1711, if he was the oldest child, which we don't know.
Thus he could have been born even later.
This brings us fiinally to your Henry Childress , "cultivator". Following
your pattern of adding 25 years, his birth would be 1735-36 at the
earliest, which I said was unlikely prior to 1734. In either case, he is
still a minor in 1752.
Con
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> From: Mark and Gary <london2005(a)charter.net>
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> Date: 4/15/2006 4:39:47 PM
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> Conduff,
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You know, I really don't care if its accurate or not. Nothing can justify what we've done over there! And what is this doing on a genealogy board anyway! Where is the List manager?
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>From: Ruth Cattles Cottrell <ruthcottrell(a)comcast.net>
>Sent: Apr 17, 2006 8:43 AM
>To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
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<<Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah
and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the
wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. >>
This has been circulating for a couple of years. A man who lived and taught in Pakistan for several years told me this is not accurate. Even if it was true, the Eagle has certainly not cleansed Iraq - quite the opposite!
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>From: Joseph and Lillie Childress <jlchildress(a)ntelos.net>
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>Very interesting facts! Enjoy and pray for all our troops in Iraq!
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>To: Marshall, Luke A VP-66; Moore, Maria AD1 VR-58; Powell, Brent; Powell, Rita J CIV NAVAIR DEPT; Lewis, Darnelle V AD1 CNATTU Norfolk; Obryant, Runietta U AE2 (AIMD NRFK); Clark, Saunders F ADAN HM14; Galloway, Dell R AD1 VR-54; Ausburn, Christopher N AN HM14; Sexton, Michael A AD3 HM14; Beard, James R AD2 HM14; Catallo, Alexander R AA HM14; Denny, Levi HM14, 116; Arnold, Justin A ADAR HELMINERON FOURTEEN, POWERPLANTS
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>From: Stocks, Lisa M NC1(SW/AW) [mailto:stocksl@gonzalez.navy.mil]
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 0:27
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>From: Stewart, Joseph D. GM1(SW)
>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>To: All First Classes; Lizano, Francisco R. GMC(SW); Rudolph, Joseph E. GMC(SW); ORDO (Watts, James N. ENS); Cobb, Elizabeth L. FC3(SW); Albright, Merle E. GM2(SW); Brown, Beau G. GM2; Brown, Morgan L. GMSN; Mitchell, Corey A. GMSA; Liedtke, Christopher STG3
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Very interesting facts! Enjoy and pray for all our troops in Iraq!
----- Original Message -----
From: Ordonez, Joseph L AE1 VR-58
To: jordonez1372(a)yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:54 AM
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
-----Original Message-----
From: Moore, Maria AD1 VR-58
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:30
To: Moore, Louis A ENS HS-11; Moncada, Damaris; Pressey, Marcus T AD2 NOSC Norfolk; Armstrong, Brian; Mister, Stanley AECS VR-58 QAO; MILTON, RODNEY A AD3 VR-58; LINEBRINK, SEAN NMN AD2 VR-58; Mann, Travis M AD2 VR58; Orange, Sammie E AD3 VR-58; Hurst, Rosali VR-58; BROWN, MARIA T YN2 VR-58; Ordonez, Joseph L AE1 VR-58; Alicea, Alfred AD3 PATRON5; Matern, Dale VR58 ,310
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
-----Original Message-----
From: Cummings, Gerald A
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 21:20
To: Marshall, Luke A VP-66; Moore, Maria AD1 VR-58; Powell, Brent; Powell, Rita J CIV NAVAIR DEPT; Lewis, Darnelle V AD1 CNATTU Norfolk; Obryant, Runietta U AE2 (AIMD NRFK); Clark, Saunders F ADAN HM14; Galloway, Dell R AD1 VR-54; Ausburn, Christopher N AN HM14; Sexton, Michael A AD3 HM14; Beard, James R AD2 HM14; Catallo, Alexander R AA HM14; Denny, Levi HM14, 116; Arnold, Justin A ADAR HELMINERON FOURTEEN, POWERPLANTS
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
-----Original Message-----
From: Hollingsworth, John O AD2 Naval Air Reserve, N72
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:28
To: Tetter, Dulce AZ2; Edwards, Darnell SK2 NMCRC CHARLOTTE, NC; Lewis, Darnelle V AD1 CNATTU Norfolk; Reyes, Carlos M AD1 CNATTU Norfolk; Hutching, Charles D AD2, Instructor; Alexander, Charlene S IT2 HM14; Acevedo, Gabriel A. AD2 AIMD Norfolk SP-312 , 1 , 41N; Kilby, William R (NRFK); Mullen, Clifford R PS1; Fields, Rodney L AE2 HM14; Valdiviez, Mark N AD1 HM14; Medlin, Lani YN2 NCHB1; Cummings, Gerald A; Grant, George L AD2 HM-14
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
-----Original Message-----
From: York, Irvin W AD1 (HM14 NRFK)
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:43
To: Blissett, Courtney L AD2 HM14; Wilson, Derrick L AD2 HM14; Hollingsworth, John O AD2 Naval Air Reserve, N72; Wynn, Jermaine A ADAN HM14; Doughty, Stephen AD1; Lott, Bill R AM1 HM-14; Cizek, Michael AM1 HM-14; Valdiviez, Mark N AD1 HM14; Lio, Tony I AW1 HM-14; Gipson, Quentin A AD3 HM14; Antero, Yano AD1 HM14 ,Powerpplants; Cristea, Adrian E AW1 HM14; Riccardi, Thomas F AW2 HM14; Mason, Taj E AM2 HM14; Johnson, Mesceline C AZ2 HM14
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
-----Original Message-----
From: Stocks, Lisa M NC1(SW/AW) [mailto:stocksl@gonzalez.navy.mil]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 0:27
To: RDAISE(a)YAHOO.COM; Stocks, Darryl K AE1 CNATTU Oceana, AE Phase; CDAISE(a)BELLSOUTH.NET; CARLTON.MOFFETT(a)COMCAST.NET
Cc: Gumbs, Kishan E. PS2(SW); York, Irvin W AD1 (HM14 NRFK); Riggins, Darrell L ADC HELANTISUBRON LIGHT 46; Smith, Noel J. YN1(SW/AW)
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
I hate chain letters but this is kind of interesting. Especially if you read and/or study the Bible.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Joseph D. GM1(SW)
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:57 PM
To: All First Classes; Lizano, Francisco R. GMC(SW); Rudolph, Joseph E. GMC(SW); ORDO (Watts, James N. ENS); Cobb, Elizabeth L. FC3(SW); Albright, Merle E. GM2(SW); Brown, Beau G. GM2; Brown, Morgan L. GMSN; Mitchell, Corey A. GMSA; Liedtke, Christopher STG3
Subject: FW: Fw: Iraq!!!!!!!!!!! and the Bible
I got this one from my dad.
GM1 (SW) Stewart
5"/54 Cal MK45 LWGM
"Bringing you Closer to God Five inches at a time"
This is freaky, interesting and scary all in one!
Read down to the very bottom, you don't want to miss this!
VERY INTERESTING -
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq .
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq , was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq .
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq !
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq , conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon , which was a city in Iraq < /I>!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land ofShinar , and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated with it than Iraq.
And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
I BETTER NOT HEAR OF ANYONE BREAKING THIS ONE OR SEE DELETED This is a ribbon for soldiers fighting in Iraq. Pass it on to everyone and pray. Something good will happen to you tonight at 11:11 PM This is not a joke. Someone will either call you or will talk to you on-line and say that they love you. Do not break this chain. Send this to 13 people in the next 15 minutes. Go.
What a chill! Huh????
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Mark and Gary,
Just because some of her conclusions are wrong doesn't mean they all are.
I only used her for the data provided. Please address the issue I raised
instead of dodging it.
Con
> [Original Message]
> From: Mark and Gary <london2005(a)charter.net>
> To: <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 4/14/2006 11:09:14 PM
> Subject: [Childress-L] Dennstedt article
>
> Conduff,
> The Dennstedt article "Progenitors and Kin of Abraham Childress 3rd" is
> neither a scholarly nor reliable document. A number of her conclusions
> are not supported by the documents. Ms. Dennstedt no longer defends her
> article or conclusions.
> Thank you.
> Mark Childress
>
>
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> Contact List Owners Mark or Gary Childress at
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Mark and Gary,
For what it's worth, according to Dennstedt in PROGENITORS AND KINFOLK OF
ABRAHAM CHILDERS III,
"The children of Henry and Lucretia were:
1. Thomas. On the basis of one deed it is possible that Thomas died and all
of the land went to Henry, as stated in the will. On 1 Dec. 1746 Matthias
Ayres of the County and Parish of Henrico sold to Henry Sharpe 62 1/2
acres on Four Mile Creek. 50 acres of which had been purchased from Heavy
[sic] Childers .[Benjamin B. Weisiger, Henrico County, Virginia, Deeds.
1737-1750 (Richmond, 1985), p. 34.] The sale from Henry Childers to
Matthias Ayres appears in the May 1739 court records.[Ibid.. p. 74]"
[Comments and footnotes put in text in brackets]
If that were the case, then it is likely that Thomas's children were legal
orphans and the boys would likely have been bound to Henry (has anyone
looked for records?). If so, they would have been under Henry's contol
until age 21. If Henry were the older of the two children, I think it is
unlikely that he could have been born before 1734 [assuming your dates for
Henry], so that Henry would have to have sent two teenagers to "Mullenaxe
Creek together in 1752 in order to cultivate their uncle's land there." If
so, who was overseeing them? The most likely candidates would be the
Childresses who lived adjacent to the land. What do you propose then as
their connection with Henry? Or do you have another explanation involving
some other family?
Con
PS I did note on rereading your post that you did have in Samuel Hall
Childress's lineage the correct second marriage for John. A typo or did
you also miss it when you said Hicks instead of Hickman 6 times?
Conduff Childress
cchldrss(a)mindspring.com
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Conduff,
The Dennstedt article "Progenitors and Kin of Abraham Childress 3rd" is
neither a scholarly nor reliable document. A number of her conclusions
are not supported by the documents. Ms. Dennstedt no longer defends her
article or conclusions.
Thank you.
Mark Childress
Mark and Gary,
I'm curious where you came up with the Hicks in "John Childress, Sr. (m. Armstrong & Hicks)"? Are you suggesting a connection with the William Hix of the 1770 deed from Henry Childress? I'm sure all of this will be a big surprise to the many descendants of John Childress, since they thought his second wife was Nancy Hickman, daughter of William Hickman, and grandaughter of Edwin Hickman. John's youngest son was named named Edwin Childress, said to have been born in 1791, and thus most likely named for his Uncle Edwin, who was killed by Indians in April 1791 on the banks of the Duck River.
Con
Conduff Childress
cchldrss(a)mindspring.com
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
To Mark and Gary Childress
Thank guys for your dedication to the unraveling of the Childress/Childers
family history.
Jay Childress
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JOHN CHILDRESS (b. 2 Dec 1759, d. 11 Jan 1849)
MONOGRAPH 3: April 2006
By Mark & Gary Childress, Listowners of Childress-L(a)Rootsweb.com.
Rights reserved 2006
8403 Seranata Drive, Whittier, California 90603-1054
Email: London2005(a)charter.net
PREFACE
This monograph reflects the Listowners' latest research and conclusions.
The original paper, from which this monograph is adapted, incorporated 5
genealogical charts. Those charts could not be transferred across to
Childress-L@Rootsweb for technical reasons. But the charts will appear
in a later 2-part reprint in the "Childress/Childers Family Association"
newsletter.
FOREWORD
Acknowledgment
The authors extend their gratitude and appreciation to veteran
researcher Virginia Hanks who has graciously provided to the authors
copies in her possession of family Bible records for Stephen Goolsby and
Major Childress (m. Hannah Ballew) of colonial Amherst Co., Virginia as
well as pages from Ms. Hanks' personal family group sheets. Virginia
Hanks' exhaustive works over a decade ago on Henry Childers (m. Susannah
Goolsby) and his descendants remain the seminal texts on this topic.
The authors also extend their thanks to Virginia Hanks for providing
information and advice that provided the keys to solving the mystery of
the ancestry of Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby) of 18th Century
Amherst Co., Virginia.
Acknowledgment
Regarding this monograph the authors extend their appreciation to Samuel
Hall Childress (Childress/Childers DNA Project @ "www.Familytreedna.com"
kit # 15234), James Ronald Childress (kit # 13294), Bazz Childress (kit
# 8438) and Critton Joe Childers (kit # 33069) whose DNA results have
made an inestimable contribution.
In Samuel Hall Childress's judgment, his earliest confirmed ancestor is
"Judge" John Childress (m. Elizabeth Robertson). Samuel Hall
Childress's colonial "Childress" ancestors left a "paper trail" from
their emigration c.1650 through Henrico and Lunenburg counties, Virginia
to Surry Co., North Carolina. This documentary evidence appears
consistent with the DNA evidence. From it the authors conclude that the
colonial/Federalist-era family tree for Samuel Hall Childress is
provisionally this:
* Abraham (T) Childres [sic] "the Emigrant" (b.c.1630, d.c.1679), of
Curles, Henrico County, Virginia; father of . . .
* Abraham Childres/ers [sic] (b.c.1650, d.c.1698, m. Anne __ ); father
of . . .
* Henry Childress (b.c. 1680, d. 1726, m. Lucretia Jones); father of .
. .
* Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer); father of . . .
* John Childress 1st (m1. Elizabeth Armstrong, m2. Nancy Hickman );
father of . . .
* "Judge" John Childress 2nd (m. Elizabeth Robertson); father of . . .
* Elijah Robertson Childress; ancestor of . . .
* Samuel Hall Childress.
The DNA test results reveal that Samuel Hall Childress belongs to
Haplogroup I1a1 (aka "Viking" Childress/ers) and subgroup DYS-CDYb:37
(i.e., DNA Y-Chromosome Site allele "CDYb" with value "37"). DYS
subgroup CDYb:37 presently appears to predate value 38 at that site and
is evident across a range of "Viking" Childress lineages.
The most recent common ancestor of Samuel Hall, James Ronald Childress,
Bazz Childress and Critton Joe Childers (collectively) occurs at Abraham
Childres/ers (b.1655, d.c.1698, m. Anne __). The authors conclude that
Abraham Childres/ers (m. Anne) belonged to DNA subgroup DYS-CDYb:37 (the
older mutation) because the older mutation CDYb:37 is still carried by
descendant Samuel Hall Childress (whose lineage branched off a
generation earlier than the other three participants).
The most recent common ancestor of just James Ronald Childress, Bazz
Childress and Critton Joe Childers (collectively) occurs a generation
later at Abraham Childres/ers (b.c. 1672, m. __ Pew). The authors
conclude that he was the founder (source) of DNA subgroup DYS-CDYb:38
because his descendants James, Bazz and Critton (representing the
lineages of the only sons of Abraham m. Pew) carry that allele.
Abraham (b. 1655, d.c.1698, m. Anne __ ) (carrier of the "CDYb:37"
allele) left a will in Henrico Co., Virginia naming 5 sons [Will of
Abraham Childers (sic) (6 Dec 1693 written, 1 Jun 1698 probated),
Henrico Co., Virginia Wills & Deeds (1697-1704): 78.], viz:
* Abraham (b.c. 1672, m. __ Pew) (founder/source of the "CDYb:38"
allele) [most recent common ancestor of James Ronald Childress, Bazz
Childress and Critton Joe Childers],
* Robert,
* Henry (m. Lucretia Jones) (carrier of the "CDYb:37" allele) [ancestor
of Samuel Hall Childress],
* John,
* Philemon.
This chart (below) displays the provisional family trees for DNA Project
participants Samuel Hall Childress, James Ronald Childress, Bazz
Childress and Critton Joe Childers.
[Chart omitted]
Critton Joe Childers and Bazz Childress also trace their later descent
through a more recent common ancestor, viz. Pleasant Childress who was
born c.1761, in Buckingham Co., Virginia. Bazz Childress has a
DYS-19:14 [allele "19," value "14"] which is the older mutation
observable across the range of "Viking" Childress lineages. However,
Critton Joe Childers carries a DYS-19:15 allele (a newer mutation).
Consequently, the authors conclude that Critton's "15" value (the
"Critton marker") occurred after the birth of Pleasant Childress and is
therefore no older than 225 years.
DNA participant Joe H. Childress (Childress/Childers DNA Project @
"www.Familytreedna.com" kit # 49124) also claims descent from Pleasant
Childress (b. 1761, Buckingham Co., Va.). He took the truncated
"24-marker" test, which confirms that he is a "Viking" Childress
consistent with being a descendant of Pleasant Childress (b. 1761). But
there are no results for him at marker loci CDYb. So the authors cannot
confirm his lineage through Pleasant Childress, although it may very
well be the case.
ALBEMARLE CO., VIRGINIA NEIGHBORS
When John Childress 2nd (b. 1759), a "Celtic" Childress, was born on his
grandfather's tobacco plantation on Rockhouse Creek, Albemarle Co.,
Virginia one of the farm's adjacent neighbors was Henry Childress (m.
Susannah Goolsby), a "Viking" Childress.
The only clue to the genealogical origins of Henry Childress (m.
Susannah Goolsby) lies in a little noted land patent, applied for in
1752 and issued 10 Sep 1755 to a Henry Childers (sic), for 50 acres in
Albemarle Co., Virginia located near the Thomas Goolsby, Sr. plantation.
[See Patent to Henry Childers [sic] (10 Sep 1755 dated), Land Office
Patents No. 31 (1751-1756) pp. 643-644, Reel 29, Library of Virginia,
Richmond, Virginia]
PATENT to HENRY CHILDRESS on MULLENAXE CREEK, ALBEMARLE CO., VIRGINIA
Patent to Henry Childers [sic] (10 Sep 1755, dated), Land Office Patents
No. 31 (1751-1756), pp. 643-644, (Reel 29), Library of Virginia,
Richmond, Virginia.
Transcript
"Henry Childers [sic] 50 Acres Term[inates] Page 2 }
George the Second &c. Know ye that for divers good Causes &
Consideration but more especially for and in Consideration of the sum of
Five Schillings of good and Lawful Money for our use paid to our
Receiver General of our Revenues in this our Colony and Dominion of
Virginia
We have Given Granted and Confirmed and by these Presents for us our
Heirs and Succefsors [sic: successors] Do Give Grant and Confirm unto
Henry Childers one Certain Tract or Parcel of Land containing Fifty
Acres lying and being in the County of Albemarle on the North side of
the Fluvanna River on Mullanax Creek and bounded as followeth to wit
Beginning at John Childerss Corner Maple and north [sic] his Line North
ten degrees West eighty Poles to pointers in Joseph Childerss Line &
with it South sixty nine degrees East one hundred & ten Poles to a Pine
on Allen Howards Line and with his Line South twenty five degrees West
ninety eight Poles to a Hiccory & North sixty eight Degrees West forty
eight Poles to Pointers [thence] a new Line North nine Degrees West
seventy nine Poles to the first Station With all &c to have hold &c to
be held &c Yielding and Paying &c Providing &c In Witnefs &c. Witnefs
our Trusty and welbeloved Robert Dinwiddie Esquire our Lieutenant
Governor and Commander in Chief of our said Colony and Dominion at
Williamsburg Under the Seal of our said Colony the tenth Day of
September One thousand seven hundred and fifty five In the XXIXth year
of our Reign
Robt. Dinwiddie
Exd. [sic: Examined]"
HENRY CHILDRESS 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) in ALBEMARLE CO., VIRGINIA
On 10 Sep 1755, the Commonwealth of Virginia issued a land patent to a
"Henry Childers" (sic) for 50 acres on Mullenax Creek, Albemarle County,
Virginia which he had purchased in 1752 for 5 shillings. The patent was
referenced 7 years later in a Lunenburg Co., Virginia deed (1 Oct 1759,
dated) from Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) of Lunenburg Co.,
Virginia to James Rutledge, of Prince Edward Co., Virginia. [Lunenburg
DB 5 (1757-1760): 167ff] The authors conclude that Henry Childress 2nd
(m. Mary Farmer) of Lunenburg Co., Virginia was that "Henry Childers"
who purchased the Albemarle land in 1752.
HENRY CHILDRESS "cultivator" (m. Susannah Goolsby)
The 50 acres patented on Mullenaxe Creek, Albemarle Co., Virginia by
Henry Childress (m. Mary Farmer) was one farmstead to the north-west of
the plantation of Thomas Goolsby, Sr. whose daughter Susannah married
c.1755 to a Henry Childress. No marriage bond, license, consent or
court record of their marriage survives for them. Researchers have
inferred their marriage from the will of Thomas Goolsby (m. Lucy Bryant)
which names a daughter "Susannah Childress," Henry's Amherst deeds
signed by wife "Susannah", [e.g., Amherst DB "B": 68] and from their
son's name "Goolsby Childress" (b.c. 1757).
Q: Genealogically, who was Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby) ?
We can exclude Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary Farmer), the patenting
party, because he died in 1761 in Lunenburg Co., Virginia leaving behind
Mary (née Farmer) as his widow, not Susanna née Goolsby. [Lunenburg WB
Book 1:328]
We can exclude Henry 3rd, the son of Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary
Farmer), because Henry 3rd was born c.1748 and was therefore c.7 years
old at the time (c.1755) that Susanna (née Goolsby) married to neighbor
Henry Childress.
The 1748 birth date for Henry 3rd (son of Henry Childress, 2nd m. Mary
Farmer) was obtained by reconstructing the birth dates for the children
of Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary Farmer); akin to a reconstructing a
family Bible. On the 1786 Surry Co., NC census one finds John
Childress, Sr. (m. Armstrong & Hicks) – son of Henry Childress 2nd (m.
Mary Farmer). There are 6 sons (u-21 y/o) and 1 daughter (age unk.)
within the household, for a total of 7 children. This suggests that
he'd had a family for 14-20+ years; in otherwords, he married 1766 to
1772. This is consistent with a family Bible record for his son John
Childress 2nd (m. Robertson) who was born 13 Dec 1773. [William Curry
Harllee, Kinfolks, A Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vo. 3 (New
Orleans, LA: Searcy & Pfaff, Ltd., 1937): 2599] With an assumption that
John Childress 1st (m. Armstrong & Hicks) married c.25 y/o, then his
birth date would be c.1740 (1766 - 25 years = c.1740). The birth date
for John Childress 1st (m. Armstrong & Hicks) is consistent with the
1786 Surry Co., NC census which gives his age as 21-60 years old in 1786
(= born between 1726 to 1765). And this timeline is internally
consistent with the birth of sibling David Childress 20 years later in
1760 (per David's Revolutionary War pension declaration # 39298,
National Archives) [20 years = 10 siblings after John @ 2 year
intervals]. The will of Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) lists his
children in apparent birth order. This assumption is gleaned from
Henry's alternation between his sons' and daughters' names as he makes
his bequests and also from a parent's natural inclination to list their
children in birth order. "Slotting in" the other siblings of John
Childress (m. Armstrong & Hicks) as listed in the will of Henry
Childress, 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) between 1740 to 1760 gives an
approximate birth date for each. And Henry 3rd's birth date is seen to
have occurred c.1748.
Timeline: As a result, a timeline emerges for the family of Henry
Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer), viz:
* 1713 = Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) is born. [working back
from date of marriage c.1738 <minus> 25 years]
* 1727 = Henry Childress 1st (m. Lucretia Jones) dies.
* 1738 = Henry Childress 2nd marries Mary Farmer. [pegged to birth of
eldest son John (m. Armstrong & Hicks) b.c. 1740]
Children of Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary Farmer):
* 1740 = John Childress, Sr. (m. Armstrong & Hicks) is born.
* 1742 = Lucretia is born.
* 1744 = Phebia is born.
* 1746 = Ann is born.
* 1748 = Henry 3rd ["of 1787 Bedford Co., Va"] is born.
* 1750 = Thomas is born.
* 1752 = Millicent is born.
* 1754 = Mary is born.
* 1756 = Godfrey is born.
* 1758 = Sarah is born.
* 1760 = David (m. Gaines) is born. [per Revolutionary War pension
declaration]
It is evident from the timeline above that the Henry Childress
"cultivator" who married c.1755 to Susanna Goolsby was not Henry 3rd
(b.c.1748) because Henry Childress 3rd was c.7 years old when Susanna
Goolsby married. And yet Henry Childress "cultivator" would have been a
relative of Henry Childress (m. Mary Farmer) because Henry Childress
"cultivator" was farming the newly patented land at Mullenaxe Creek
belonging to Henry Childress (m. Farmer).
The next nearest consanguineous relationship of Henry Childress
"cultivator" to Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) - barring that of
"son" - would have been that of "nephew" to "uncle." And that's where
the evidence points. Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary Farmer) needed to
send family members to Albemarle to cultivate his newly patented land in
1752 or forfeit it. Yet the sons of Henry Childress 2nd (m. Mary
Farmer) were too young to send. Consequently, he apparently prevailed
upon the older sons (Henry "cultivator" and John m. Stinnett) of his
brother Thomas Childress ("of Charlotte Co., VA") to undertake the
required "cultivation" of the Mullenaxe Creek land.
So, returning to the original question, viz:
Q: Genealogically, who was Henry Childress "cultivator" (m. Susannah
Goolsby) ?
A: He was very likely the nephew of Henry Childress, 2nd (m. Mary
Farmer).
The family tree for Henry Childress "cultivator" (m. Susannah Goolsby)
is provisionally this:
* Abraham (T) Childres [sic] "the Emigrant" (b.c.1630, d.c.1679), of
Curles, Henrico County, Virginia; father of . . .
* Abraham Childres/ers [sic] (b.c.1655, d.c.1698, m. Anne __ ); father
of . . .
* Henry Childress, 1st (b.c. 1680, d. 1726, m. Lucretia Jones); father
of . . .
* Thomas Childress 1st/Sr. (b.c. 1705, "of Charlotte Co., VA"); father
of . . .
* Henry Childress "cultivator" (b.c.1730, m. Susannah Goolsby) of
Mullenaxe Creek, Albemarle Co., Virginia (& latterly of Huff's Creek and
lower Pedlar River, 18th Century Amherst Co., Virginia)
This chart (below) displays the provisional family tree for Henry
Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby).
[Chart omitted]
The authors have parsed two other conclusions from the evidence and
analyses, viz: that John Childress, Sr. (m. Priscilla Stinnett) of 18th
Century Albemarle and Amherst counties, Virginia was the brother of
Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby) "cultivator" and that brothers
Henry and John may have removed to Mullenaxe Creek together in 1752 in
order to cultivate their uncle's land there.
In the late 20th Century, it was speculated that Henry "cultivator" had
perhaps married a Susannah Stinnett, not Susanna Goolsby. However,
circumstantial evidence refutes this contention. The deductive proof
that Henry "cultivator" married to a "Goolsby" and not a "Stinnett" is
found in the name of his son "Goolsby Childress" and Henry's use of only
"Goolsby" relatives to witness his 1770 deed to William Hix. On 7 Feb
1783, in Amherst Co., Virginia a Susanna Stinnett married to John
Lawson. [William Montgomery Sweeny, "Marriage Bonds of Amherst County,
Virginia, 1763-1800, published with Marriage Records of Amherst County,
Virginia 1815-1821, and Subscription for Building St. Mark's Church,
Amherst County, Virginia" (Baltimore, MD: for Clearfield Co., by
Genealogical Publishing, Co., 1999): 46; Amherst Order Book 1782-1784:
102]
THE GOOLSBY CONNECTIONS
The known and deduced Goolsby-Childress marriages pertaining to colonial
Albemarle and Amherst counties are presented below. There may have been
others which are now "lost."
[Chart omitted]
This chart (below) is an extension (beyond the right-hand margin) of the
one above:
[Chart omitted]
Sarah Goolsby "the Elder"
Sarah "Elder" was the daughter of John Turrentine Goolsby (who died 1805
in Oglethorpe Co., Ga.); he was a brother to Thomas Goolsby (m. Lucy
Bryant). Sarah "Elder" married to Joseph Childress "the Honest" of
Albemarle Co., Virginia a "Celtic" Childress, so named by the authors
from a reference to him as "honest & trusty" in a Revolutionary War
dispatch in the Virginia State Papers. Joseph Childress "the Honest"
was a 1st cousin (once removed) to John Childress 2nd (b. 1759), the
subject of this "series." See chart (above).
Sarah Goolsby "the Younger"
Sarah "Younger" was the daughter of Daniel Goolsby; Daniel was the
brother of Sarah Goolsby "the Elder." Sarah "Younger" married 1796 in
Oglethorpe Co., GA to John Childress, son of Sarah "the Elder" and
Joseph Childress "the Honest." John Childress "of Oglethorpe Co., Ga."
was a 2nd cousin to John Childress 2nd (b. 2 Dec 1759), the subject of
this "series." See chart (above).
Susannah Goolsby
Susanna was the daughter of Thomas Goolsby (m. Lucy Bryant) of Albemarle
Co., Virginia. She married c.1755 to neighbor Henry Childress
"cultivator" (b.c. 1736), a "Viking" Childress. Her first cousin "Mary"
married to Joseph P. Childress, 2nd /Jr. (m. Mary ___ ), a "Celtic"
Childress, and paternal uncle to John Childress 2nd (b. 2 Dec 1759), the
subject of this "series." See chart (above).
Mary (née __ )
Mary's parentage has not yet proven recoverable. She appears related to
adjacent neighbor Stephen Goolsby (although the exact details remain
elusive); perhaps a niece or sister. Mary (née __ ) married to Joseph
P. Childress 2nd ("of Amherst/Kanawha Co., VA"), a paternal uncle to
John Childress 2nd (b. 2 Dec 1759), the subject of this "series." See
chart (above).
HENRY CHILDRESS 1770 DEED to WILLIAM HIX
Deed from Henry Childress to William Hix (27 Aug 1770, dated; 5 Nov
1770, recorded), 138 acres on Huff's Creek, Amherst County Deed Book
"C": 122-123, Amherst Courthouse, Virginia.
Transcript
"This Indenture made this 27[th] day of August one thousand seven
hundred and seventy Between Henry Childres & Susannah his wife of the
County of Amherst of the one part & William Hix of the same County of
the one part[;] Witnefseth [sic: Witnesseth] that the said Henry
Childers & Susannah his wife for & in Consideration of the sum of Sixty
five pounds Current Money of Virginia to them in hand paid by the said
William Hix the Receipt whereof they the said Henry Childers & Susannah
his wife doth hereby Acknowledge and of every & parcel thereof doth
Clearly Acquit[,] Exonerate & Discharge the said William Hix[,] hath
granted[,] Bargained & sold[,] Aliened & confirmed & by these presents
doth grant[,] bargain & sell[,] alien & confirm unto the said William
Hix & his Heirs one certain Tract or parcel of Land Containing by
Estimation one hundred & thirty eight Acres be the same more or Lefs
[sic; less] lying & being in the County of Amherst on the branches of
Huffs Creek on the East side of the Tobacco Row Mountain & is part of a
tract of two hundred & seventy six acres which the said Henry Childers
purchased of William Cabell Junr & is bounded by a line of Marked Trees
which was run to Divide the tract of two hundred & seventy six Acres
between the said Henry Childers & John Childers also Benjamin Stinnets
lines & the said Henry Childers's lines & now in the pofsefsion [sic:
possession] of the sd William Hix with all Houses[,] ways[,] Easements &
Advantages Whatsoever to the said Land & premises belonging or
Appertaining & also all the Estate[,] Right[,] Title[,] Interest[,]
Claim & Demand whatsoever of them the sd Henry Childers & Susannah his
wife of[,] in & to the same[.] To have & to hold the said Land &
premises with the appurtenances unto the said William Hix[,] his Heirs &
Afsigns [sic: assigns] forever & the said Henry Childers & his heirs the
said Land & premises above mentioned with the Appurtenances to the said
William Hix[,] his heirs and Afsigns [sic: assigns] against them the sd
Henry Childers & Susannah his wife & their heirs & all other persons
will warrant & forever defend by these presents[. I]n witnefs whereof
the said Henry Childers & Susannah his wife hath hereunto set their
hand[s] & affixed their seals the Day & Year above written.
Henry his X mark Childers
Signed[,] sealed & Delivered in the presence of }
Joseph Childers
John Goolsby
Jos his ‡ mark Childers J.r
Aug.st 27th 1770
Then Recd of William Hix sixty five Pounds being the consideration
within mentioned[.]
Henry his H mark Childress
Test
Joseph Childres
John Goolsby
Joseph his ‡ mark Childres J.r
At a Court held for Amherst County at the courthouse the first day of
Octob.r 1770.
This Indenture & Receipt Indorsed were proved by the oaths of Joseph
Childers & John Goolsby t[w]o of the witnefses [thereto] & ordered to
lie for further proof & at a Court held for the sd County the fifth Day
of November 1770 This Indenture & Receipt Indorsed were further proved
by the Oath of Joseph Childers & ordered to be Recorded.
Test Edmd Wilcox Clk"
IDENTIFICATION of PARTIES on HENRY CHILDRESS'S 1770 DEED
This chart (below) displays the relationships between the grantor and
witnesses on the 1770 deed of Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby).
[Chart omitted]
Joseph Childres (sic): Witness
Witness Joseph Childress "the Honest" was a "Celtic" Childress. He was
a contiguous neighbor of Henry's on Mullenax Creek. Joseph Childress
was a riverman on the James River and in this capacity he may have
ferried Henry's annual tobacco hogsheads downriver by batteau to
Richmond, with the help of brother-in-law John Ward. This Joseph
Childress was married to Sarah Goolsby "the Elder," daughter of John T.
Goolsby (d. 1805, Oglethorpe Co., Ga.). John T. Goolsby was the
uncle-in-law to Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby). Joseph Childress
"the Honest" was a first cousin (once removed) to John Childress (b.
1759), the subject of this "series." See chart (above).
John Goolsby: Witness
Witness John Goolsby may have been John Turrentine Goolsby (d. 1805,
Oglethorpe Co., Ga.) or his son John Goolsby, Jr.; they being the
father-in-law and brother-in-law respectively, of witness Joseph
Childress "the Honest." John Turrentine Goolsby, Sr.'s daughter was
married to witness Joseph Childress "the Honest." See chart (above).
Joseph Childres Jr. ("‡" his mark) (sic): Witness
Witness Joseph Childress, 2nd /Jr. was also a "Celtic" Childress. He
was married to Mary (née ___) whose mother appears to have been a sister
to Thomas Goolsby m. Lucy Bryant. Witness Joseph Childress 2nd /Jr. (m.
Mary __ ) was a paternal uncle to John Childress (b. 1759), the subject
of this "series." See chart (above).
1785 AMHERST CO., VA CENSUS
This chart (below) displays the relationships of those Childresses who
were recorded along the lower Pedlar River on the 1785 Amherst, Virginia
census, viz., Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby), brother John
Childress, Sr. (m. Priscilla Stinnett), and neighbor Benjamin Sandidge
(m. Elizabeth Childress).
[Chart omitted]
On the 1785 Amherst census, John Childress 1st /Sr. (m. Marjory Powell)
and son John Childress 2nd /Jr. (b. 1759) can be observed on the upper
Pedlar River (next to James Edmondson).
DESCENDANTS of HENRY CHILDRESS (m. Susannah Goolsby)
A fuller discussion of Henry Childress (m. Susannah Goolsby) and their
descendants is beyond the purview of this monograph and this "series"
and is not pursued here. Interested genealogical researchers are
directed to veteran researcher Virginia Hank's monographs and papers on
this extensive topic. [See e.g., Virginia Hanks, "Spanning a
Continent," Childress/Childers Family Association website]
DNA HAPLOTYPE for HENRY CHILDRESS (m. Susannah Goolsby)
Henry Childress "cultivator" (m. Susannah Goolsby) is provisionally
identified as belonging to Haplogroup I1a1 (aka "Viking" Childress/ers)
and subgroup DYS-CDYb:37 based upon the DNA test results of
"Childers-Childress DNA Project" participant Samuel Hall Childress.
To be continued - - -
Mark Childress & Gary Childress