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Dear List,
It is unfortunate that the DNA results and the discussion of those results are not posted on this list, especially since the supposed ancestry of the individuals involved in the project are thus apt not to get full scrutiny. A case in point is the following.
I recently reviewed the data of the "Viking Group B" that I found and downloaded as an Excel spreadsheet (updated as of 5-8-05). On it a pattern caught my attention. The individuals Paul Allan Childers (19389), Clyde O Childress (8267), Cody Childress (8287), and Daniel Ray Childress (8269) all have a 15 in column labeled AI while everyone else has a 16. Of these 4 individuals Paul Allan Childers and Clyde O Childress have identical DNA profiles. I then looked at the listed ancestry of these two. The ancestry of Paul Allan Childers I recognized immediately as tracing back to William Childress Sr. (Goochland Co VA to Stokes Co NC). The ancestry of Clyde however I disagree with. The Robert Childress he claims as father of Constantine is not correct. The following census data show otherwise.
1860 Census -- Carroll County VA
Robert Childrefs 29 (born NC)
Massie H 29 (born VA)
Constantine 3 (born VA)
1870 Census -- Surry County NC
Robert Childress 45 (born NC) -- bar keeper in Mt. Airy
Massie H 38 (born VA)
Constantine 12 (born VA)
1880 Census -- Patrick County VA -- both in same enumeration district
Robert Childress 56 (born NC)
Massey H 56 (born VA)
Constantine Childress 22 (born VA)
Jinnie 23 (born NC)
1900 Census -- Carroll County VA -- Hillsville area
Constantine Childress 41 (born VA)
Virginia 41 (born NC)
Robert Childress (father of Constantine) is most likely the brother of Martin Childress (also present in the same area in the 1880 Census for Patrick Co VA) and hence the son of William Childress and Fannie Vest of Stokes Co NC and hence the greatgrandson of the same William Childress Sr. (Goochland Co VA to Stokes Co NC). This would explain the identical DNA profiles.
Noting that Clyde is from CA, it may be the case that he is not familiar with the area where Robert and Constantine lived. I grew up there. Hillsville VA is only 21 miles from Mt Airy NC, The area of Patrick County where they were in the 1880 census (along with Martin and all his descendants) is more or less halfway between the two towns (just a little east of US 52 which connects the two).
Hopefully this points out how the present setup erected by our fearless leaders is not conducive to full interaction. It is time to put all the DNA posts on this list. Maybe this would enliven what now appears to be a dead list.
Con
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Unless you put the state, most of us are not aware of what you're talking
about.
> [Original Message]
> From: Mark and Gary <london2005(a)Charter.net>
> To: <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 6/7/2005 4:52:00 PM
> Subject: [Childress-L] FW: {not a subscriber} RUFUS ADEL
CHILDRESS(CHILDERS)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bessie Turley [mailto:turley@usit.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:15 PM
> To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Cc: TNHENRY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: {not a subscriber} RUFUS ADEL CHILDRESS(CHILDERS)
>
> BORN ABOUT 1837 IN HENRY COUNTY.
> DIED ABOUT 1878 ,CAMDEN,BENTON COUNTY
> OF OLD FLATWOODS MRTHODIST CEMEYERY
>
> THIS IS ALL I KNOW ABOUT HIM
>
>
> ==== CHILDRESS Mailing List ====
> Contact List Owners Mark or Gary Childress at
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bessie Turley [mailto:turley@usit.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:15 PM
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Cc: TNHENRY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: {not a subscriber} RUFUS ADEL CHILDRESS(CHILDERS)
BORN ABOUT 1837 IN HENRY COUNTY.
DIED ABOUT 1878 ,CAMDEN,BENTON COUNTY
OF OLD FLATWOODS MRTHODIST CEMEYERY
THIS IS ALL I KNOW ABOUT HIM
-----Original Message-----
From: Bessie Turley [mailto:turley@usit.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:18 PM
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: {not a subscriber} RUFUS ADEL CHILDRESS???
LOOKING FOR INFO ON RUFUS ADEL CHILDRESS, BORN IN HENRY COUNTY TN.
MARRIED AMANDA BELLE ALSTON IN LIVED IN BENTON COUNTY TN. THAT IS ALL I
KNOW ABOUT HIM!!!
ANY INFO WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU
BESSIE
Hello Cecelia,
I don't have any specific knowledge of the person you are researching.
You can search the archives of Childress-L at
http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
You may also want to consider taking a DNA test using the saliva of any
Male Childress surnamed persons in your family tree. We have a DNA
project for the Childress Surname at www.FamilyTreeDNA.com and at
www.dnaheritage.com .
All my best,
Gary Childress
List Manager for Childress-L and
DNA Project Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: David & Cecelia Talley [mailto:dtalley@internetpro.net]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:15 PM
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: {not a subscriber} Robert William Childress
Robert William Childress born 1861, died 1901 in Rome, Floyd Co., GA.
Married to Louise Gunnells. One child:Jesse Morgan Childress 1892 to
1980.
I am seeking info on Robert William who is my GGfather. At the time of
his death he was a photographer in Rome, GA. He is buried at Myrtle
Hill Cemetery in Rome.
I am told that Jesse was born in Maury Co., TN, and that Robert was from
TN as was Louise (seeking info on her as well). Primarily interested
in the names and vital dates of Robert William's parents who are unknown
to me. Will appreciate any help at all.
Jesse had a cousin from Rome named Marie Stamps Orr if that helps.
Thanks.
Cecelia