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ROLL CALL - 22 JUNE 2003 - JOHN STOGNER AND MARY POLLY GARNER (CHILDRESS)
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Looking for information about Mary POLLY GARNER (CHILDRESS) (Daughter of James Giles Garner of SC) ==============================================================================
Mary Polly Garner was the wife of Robert Childress Sr. who died in Anderson County SC about 25 Jun 1799.
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CHILDREN OF ROBERT CHILDRESS SR. AND MARY POLLY GARNER: James Childress (Wife - Elizabeth Davis); Robert Childress Jr. (Wife - Sarah Catherine Carter); Lucy Childress (Husband - Willis Smith); Alexandria Polly Childress (Husband - Alexander Ritchey); Sarah Childress (Husband - John Middleton); Thomas Childress (Wife - Nancy Mahan)
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Mary Polly Garner (Childress) married JOHN STOGNER (STEGNER) in SC or GA between 1799 and 1810 after the death of Robert Childress Sr. Robert Sr. lived most of his adult life in the Old 96th Judicial District of SC. Mary Garner Childress and John Stogner had no children.
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Lucretia Childress, daughter of James Childress and Elizabeth Davis, was apprenticed to John Stogner by the Cahawba (Bibb)County Ala Court on 14 Nov 1819. She was a minor at this time.
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My Email Address: RChildress(a)satx.rr.com
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Robert D. Childress of San Antonio, Texas
Great Great Grandfather, William Marion Childress,Sr. b1785 Charlotte Co Va d
1865 Caldwell Co Ky, he was son of Wm Benedict Childress And Nancy Burton.
We do not know who his parents were. His grandfather was Jeremiah Childress
and Martha McGowan, all came from Virginia.
I agree the Childress line is difficult to trace. What line are you looking
for?
Thanks
Ricky
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From: <Dhark62488(a)aol.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Childress-L] Surname spellings
> My ancestors are Childress and it is a difficult line to trace. Can you
help
> ;me? D. Harkins
>
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In a message dated 6/19/03 11:48:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fuzdawg(a)metrocast.net writes:
>
> http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/07_27_99.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0#3
Who are your Childresses? I am a Childress descendent and have difficulty
with locating William Benedict Childress of Charlotte Co. Va. Dorothy Harkins
I am sending this to the two Lists that I subscribe to in hopes that
we can be accepting of the different ways the surnames have been
spelled over the years.
THIS is what I have been trying to say..but Michael John Neil does it
very well.
In other words, folks , ALL our various spelling are valid.
This is online at URL:
http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/07_27_99.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0#3
>"DO YOU EAR WHAT I EAR?"
>by Michael John Neill
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Last week's article used the term "birder" house. One astute reader
>gently indicated that I most likely meant "brooder" house. I thank
>them for the correction and must plead ignorance for while I was
>raised on a farm, we did not have chickens. You can be certain I
>will not make the same mistake using bovine phrases--I would never
>hear the end of it!
>
>The mistake makes a point and I'm actually glad it happened.
>Mishearing and misinterpreting words and phrases can cause problems
>genealogically in several situations. I have categorized the
>difficulties here, but bear in mind that there might be some overlap
>and that the distinction between some categories is not really
>important.
>
>DID NOT HEAR CORRECTLY
>
>Just as I misunderstood Grandma, it might be that the respondent on
>an official document or record did not hear correctly and gave
>"incorrect" information as a result. This same difficulty can arise
>when family members are asked for information. In one of my
>families, confusion arose between the two names "Augusta" and
>"Geske." These names are distinct, however, an individual with a
>hearing problem might easily confuse the two.
>
>MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION
>
>The respondent might have heard all the words and thought he
>understood the meaning of the question. If your ancestor gave an
>"incorrect" birthplace for his mother or father, is it possible that
>he interpreted the question as "where is your mother from?" instead
>of "where was your mother born?" Mother might have been born in one
>place and "been from" somewhere else (depending upon where she grew
>up and where her family originated). It might have been this place
>that she considered herself "from" even though it was not actually
>where she was born. We cannot know for certain what our ancestors
>were thinking when they were answering questions for the census
>taker or the marriage license clerk. All we have is the document
>they left behind.
>
>When interviewing family members use as many names as possible.
>Relationships can create confusion. When interviewing my
>grandmother, it took several minutes to make it clear to her that I
>was asking about her grandfather Trautvetter, not her father. She
>had referred to her own dad as a grandfather for so long (to her own
>children) that she originally answered the questions as if I was
>asking about her father. Using her grandfather's name of John
>reduced the confusion (her father, fortunately was named George).
>While it may not be possible use names exclusively, minimizing the
>number of relationships used when asking questions can reduce
>confusion.
>
>DID NOT KNOW THE LANGUAGE
>
>Was your immigrant ancestor answering questions that were asked in a
>language he did not understand? Even if your ancestor could speak
>English, it seems reasonable that she might have easily
>mistranslated a key word or phrase.
>
>WAS NOT LISTENING
>
>Have you ever answered a question without ever really listening to
>it? Asking your parent, spouse, child, or co-worker might provide a
>different answer. Is it possible your ancestor was not paying one
>hundred percent attention when the 1920 census taker knocked on his
>door? Did your ancestor assume no one would ever really care about
>the answers eighty years later?
>
>NO ONE CARED
>
>When the clerk was filling out my marriage license, he asked me how
>to spell my mother's maiden name. And so I spelled it out. If I had
>married in the county where I was born and raised, most of the
>office staff would have known how to spell the surname (and many
>would have known it without even asking). Close attention is not
>always paid to detail today and it certainly was not one hundred and
>fifty years ago either.
>
>SPOKE A DIALECT, USED SLANG, OR HAD AN ACCENT
>
>Dialects and variations in pronunciation can impact how words are
>spelled in records. "Gibson" can easily be pronounced so that it is
>spelled like "Gepson." There are numerous names where this is a
>problem, a problem compounded by dialects, "drawls," and "twangs."
>While it may be possible to know how our ancestors pronounced a name
>or a word, this information is generally not available.
>
>IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I WAS ABLE TO "EAR" IT
>
>In some cases, it is literally a lifetime from the day when a family
>tradition is heard until that day it is told. You grandfather might
>have heard a story when he was a child and not repeated it until he
>had grandchildren of his own. The chance that as a child he
>misunderstood something is reasonable. This difficulty is compounded
>by the effects time can have on one's memory.
>
>THE ANCESTOR WAS NOT LITERATE
>
>If your ancestor was unable to read, she could not "proof" any
>answers or words listed on any form she might have signed. Even if
>your ancestor could read, if the forms were not in her native
>tongue, she might have easily misunderstood a question (or her
>answer). The clerk might not have been concerned about explaining it
>to her either.
>
>Genealogists need to bear in mind auditory difficulties when dealing
>with records. These difficulties are compounded by problems with how
>our ancestors might have interpreted various terms and phrases.
>Documenting these difficulties may be impossible in many cases. When
>it can be done, it should, especially with pronunciations.
>
>I always track the ways names are pronounced when I know it. One of
>my ancestral surnames is Behrens. My great-grandmother pronounced it
>as "barns" (the kind cows sometimes reside in). This pronunciation
>is duly noted in my files. While it's not written as technically as
>it would be in a dictionary, it serves the purpose.
>
>BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS PRONOUNCED
>
>Asking older family members is a good first step, but not always
>possible. As your research progresses further and further back in
>time, the chance that living family members have heard the name
>decreases. Researchers who do not know how a name is most likely
>pronounced may wish to post such a question to one of the mailing
>lists for the surname or the message boards at
>http://www.familyhistory.com or http://www.genforum.com. Individuals
>with the name may post replies, but it is important to remember that
>the pronunciation today may be significantly different from one
>hundred and fifty or two hundred years ago.
>
>Genealogists use their eyes for the bulk of their genealogical work,
>and rightly so. But we must also use our ears and mouths--for that's
>how many of those words made their way from our ancestor's minds to
>those records.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Copyright 1999, Michael John Neill. Michael John Neill, is the
>Course I Coordinator at the Genealogical Institute of Mid America
>(GIMA) held annually in Springfield, Illinois, and is also on the
>faculty of Carl Sandburg College in Galesburg, Illinois. Michael is
>the Web columnist for the FGS FORUM and is on the editorial board of
>the Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly. He conducts
>seminars and lectures on a wide variety of genealogical and computer
>topics and contributes to several genealogical publications,
>including Ancestry and Genealogical Computing. You can email him at:
>mneill(a)asc.csc.cc.il.us or visit his Web site at:
>http://www.rootdig.com/
--
Betty Faye (double first name, ole Suth'n custom)
in NH...don't ask.
"You can take the gal out of the South, but you can't take the South
out of the gal!"
Researching:
Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, MATHIS, TURNER, TUCKER,
RUTHERFORD;
Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER;
Also: PLUMMER
I am searching for information on the desendants of Silas Childers, and Nancy
Drain.
Silas and nancy married in Franklin Co., Ark, She later married Henry
Gillespie.
On the 1900 census of Sequoyah Co., Okla, she is listed as a widow.
Nancy Gillespie 43
Geo. Childers 18
Callie J. Childers 16,
Jessie Childers 14
Lueza Childers 11
Maudie Childers, 9
Lizie Gillespie 3
Silas Childers was my 1/2 uncle.
Any information will be appreciated.
Bonnie Childress LeBlanc