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Hello
The deposition for the pension was given in the State of Tennessee,
White County, on the 16th day of July, 1833 by William Childress, a
resident of White County aged 71.
In that deposition William Childress states
"He was born in Buckingham County 25 December, 1762 He has no record of
his age. He depends upon the information derived from his parents"
(unstated who they are).
William Childress died on January 14, 1839.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Hazel Conway [mailto:hazzie01@montanasky.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:56 AM
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Childress-L] CHILDRESS, WILLIAM Rev. War Battle of Cowpens
Do you have any idea when this William was born. I am trying to trace my
William from VA. to NC. to TN. My William died in 1840. You say in 1844
his Widow, Charity lived in DeKalb TN. Do you have when this William
died? If this isn't the William I am looking for then perhaps I am
looking for one of his offspring. Thank you.
Mark and Gary wrote:
>CHILDRESS, WILLIAM
>William was born in Buckingham County, Va. He lived in Caswell County,
>North Carolina when he enlisted in the Rev. War. After the war he moved
>his family to White County, Tennessee. In 1844 his widow, Charity, was
a
>resident of DeKalb County, Tennessee, aged then eighty-three years.
>Service- Private, North Carolina. William served six months as a
private
>in Captain William White's Company of North Carolina troops and was in
>the battle of Brier Creek. He then returned to Caswell Co, NC for about
>ten months. While visiting his grandfather, William Vaughn, in South
>Carolina he enlisted as a private in Captain John Ridgeway's Company
and
>served in the detachment under Colonel Washington in the hard battle at
>Hammond's Store and the following day, in the detachment which pursued
>the Tories to the Williams Plantation, where the company surrendered.
He
>was in the battle of Cowpens and then marched to Guilford, NC
CHILDRESS, WILLIAM
William was born in Buckingham County, Va. He lived in Caswell County,
North Carolina when he enlisted in the Rev. War. After the war he moved
his family to White County, Tennessee. In 1844 his widow, Charity, was a
resident of DeKalb County, Tennessee, aged then eighty-three years.
Service- Private, North Carolina. William served six months as a private
in Captain William White's Company of North Carolina troops and was in
the battle of Brier Creek. He then returned to Caswell Co, NC for about
ten months. While visiting his grandfather, William Vaughn, in South
Carolina he enlisted as a private in Captain John Ridgeway's Company and
served in the detachment under Colonel Washington in the hard battle at
Hammond's Store and the following day, in the detachment which pursued
the Tories to the Williams Plantation, where the company surrendered. He
was in the battle of Cowpens and then marched to Guilford, NC
Hello Jeanne
I was re-reading the John Childress b. 1755 pension...and he wasn't at
the Battle of Cowpens, which was commanded by Daniel Morgan for the
Americans, in Jan of 1781, 3 months after the battle of King's Mountain.
John Childress b. 1755, was guarding prisoners in Salisbury during that
period and received some of the prisoners from Daniel Morgan and the
Cowpens battle.
So... there is still another Childress out there who was at Cowpens.
Thanks anyway
Gary
Hello Jeanne,
Thanks. I checked with the pension statement from past postings. I had
forgotten. I usually think of John Childress born 1755 in his roll at
Kings Mountain....not Cowpens. But if you have your copy of the pension
in front of you, can you check ONE SENTENCE in your copy to see if the
Cowpens sentence is complete in the following transcript. It looks like
the Cowpens statement got truncated by the computer....."At the Cowpens
on their way their spies was." Is there more to that sentence?
Below is a previous transcript.
Thanks
Gary
JOHN CHILDRESS BORN 1755: PENSION APPLICATION S3146
State of Tennessee
Rutherford County,
Court of Pleas and Quarter Session,
November sessions 1832
On this 22nd day of November 1832 personally appeared in open court
before Henry Trott, Henry D. Jamison, and Varner D. Cowern, the justices
of the court of pleas and Quarter Sessions for the said County of
Rutherford, now sitting, John Childress, a resident in the county and
state aforesaid, aged 77 years who being first duly sworn according to
law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain
the benefit of the Act of Congress passed July 7th, 1832: That he
entered the service of the United States as a volunteer under Col.
Shepard in the month of May, as he believes, 1780, at least in the May
after Charleston was taken by the British, but he can not state the day
of the month. He served in the company commanded by Capt. James
Shepard. Joseph Winstion & Davidson were Majors under Colonel Shepard
whose regiment of Cavalry collected at Surry County court house, North
Carolina, & from that place directed their course across the Yadkin
river, through Salisbury & down a few miles below to Egnew's where Gen.
Rutherford had head quarters. During this march applicant continued
with Col. Shepard's troop of horse with which he was sent by Gen.
Rutherford against the tories and British to the mouth of Rocky river on
the Pedee. He was there in a skirmish with the British & tories in
which the whigs lost a few men, & the enemy were entirely defeated. Col
(sic,Gen.) Rutherford soon after came on to the mouth of Rocky river, &
Sent Col. Shepard (with whom he still continued) back to Surry County to
reconnoiter & prevent the rising of the tories. They there scouted
after the tories until they heard of the approach of Col. Ferguson.
There came a false report to Surry County that the whig Col. Cleveland
was defeated by Ferguson. Applicant with 3 others under Capt. Jas.
Shepard voluntarily went to Wilks County Court House to know the
certainty of the report. They there volunteered under Colonel Cleveland
&marched with him the next day towards King's Mountain. At the Cowpens
on their way their spies
was. They hurried on their march, & fell in with Cols. Campbell,
Sevier, & Shelby. The evening of the same day they had the battle of
King's Mountain, in which applicant was wounded. After the battle was
over, they marched to Col. Walker's where applicant remembers that 9 of
the prisoners were hung and Bladwin made his escape. Thence they went
to Moravian town where applicant was permitted to return home, in the
month of October as he believes, but cannot remember with certainty,
1780. He did not receive la written discharge.
Afterwards in November 1780, as applicant believes, he was appointed
forage master to the troops commanded by Col. Joseph Philips & stationed
at Salisbury to guard the prisoners taken as he understood by Gen.
Morgan. Maj. Sharpe was then quartermaster. In January afterwards 500
more prisoners were sent to Sailbury which had, as he was then informed
& believes, been taken by Morgan at the Cowpens. It was then heard that
Corwallis was approaching, & the whigs moved the prisoners from
Salisbury to the next county - to Surry Town on the Dan river where the
widow Carmical lived on the way to the barracks in Prince Edward or
Albemarle County, Virginia. Applicant was then appointed & served as
waggon master to convey the tax grain in Surry County, N. Carolina to
Camden, South Carolina for the use of Gen. Greens's army after the
battle of Guilford. He was dismissed from service as waggon master in
September or October 1781. Mathew Brooks was at this time his
quartermaster. He received no written discharge & can not remember
dates with accuracy, but as forage & waggon master he believes he served
at least ten months.
Applicant, soon after his discharge from service as waggon master, moved
to Kentucky, Fayette County, & sought protection in Bryant's fort where
he was when said fort was attacked by the Indians in the year 1782 as he
believes. He was with Col. John Todd when he pursued the Indians to
Blue lick where he was defeated by the Indians under the command of
Simon McGurty. In the fall after the Blue lick defeat applicant went
under the command of Gen. Clark in Col. Daniel Boon's regiment to the
Shawnee town which they burnt having taken it without a battle.
Applicant was in the scouting party near Shawnee town under Co.. Logan &
remembers that they killed & scalped 16 Indians. He remained in
Bryant's fort for about two years & was not out of it any length of time
except on the occasion of going to the Blue lick & Shawnee town above
stated.
Applicant was born, as he was told by his parents & as he believes, on
the 5th of May 1755 in Cumberland County, Virginia, where he resided
until about one year before the Bristish took Charleston, when he moved
to N. Carolina, Surry County where he lived until after the battle of
Guilford, & until he went to Kentucky as above state. When he left
Bryant's Fort he made his way to Tennessee on Red River, thence to
Mansco's Station ten or twelve miles above Nashville. Applicant lived
in Tennessee about two years when he moved to South Carolina, Laurens
County, where he married Martha Calhoon a daughter of Thos. Calhoon
[ed.note: crossed out are the words "a sister of the vice president].
He resided there about 18 years, perhaps more, when he moved to Sevier
County, Tennessee, where he resided till about the year 1826 when he
moved to Rutherford County where he now resides.
Applicant lived in Surry County, N. Carolina when he entered the service
of the Revolution. He has no record of his age. He never served in the
Revolution in any capacity except as a volunteer. He knows of no one
now living who remembers to have served with him in the revolutionary
war, by whom he could make actual positive proof of his service. He
never had a written discharge. He submits this statement with the best
proof in his power to give. The following persons, his present
neighbours, he believes will testify to his veracity and t their belief
of his services as a soldier in the revolution - to wit, Gideon Rucker,
Thomas Powell, William McFerren, John Hollis, and Joseph Soape.
Applicant in February in the year 1830 went before William Lytle, Esq.
of Davidson County, Tennessee & made, on oath, a declaration for the
purpose of getting a pension on account of his being wounded in the
revolution. He then obtained the affidavit of Thomas Norman, a fellow
soldier of the Revolution, proving the fact of his being wounded and his
services in the Revolution. Said declaration & affidavit as then made
are herewith transmitted. Said Norman is now dead, but was resident of
Nashville, Tennessee & for said Norman's character as a man of truth
applicant refers to President Jackson, the Hon. Felix Grundy & the Hon.
Jno. Bell The fact stated in said declaration that applicant entered
service of the United States in the year 1778, was a mistake either of
himself or Esqr. Lytle who wrote it for him. He thinks he entered the
service in 1780, at least it was after Charleston was taken by the
British as stated above.
Applicant hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or
annuity except the present, & declares that his name is not on the
pension roll of any state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
J.R. Laughlin, clk. John Childress (signature)
We Gideon Rucker, a clergyman, and Thomas Powell, Esqr., both residing
in the County of Rutherford and State of Tennessee, hereby certify, that
we are well acquainted with John Childress, who has subscribed & sworn
to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy-seven years
of age as by him stated; that he is reputed and believed in the
neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution,
& that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
J.R. Laughlin, Clk.(signature) Gideon Rucker (signature) Thos.
Powell (signature)
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the
investigation of the matter, & after putting the interrogations
prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a
revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the court further
certify that appears to them that Gedeon Rucker who has signed the
preceeding (sic) certificate is a clergy and resident in said county of
Rutherford, & that Thos. Powell Esq. Who has also signed the same is a
resident of the same county & is a credible person & their statement is
entitled to credit.
H. D. Jamison (signature)
H. Lott (signature)
V. D. Cowan (signature)
[Ed. Note: The War Department, Commissioner of Pensions, sent John
Childress (b. 1755) an additional letter seeking further clarification
of his service before they could grant his pension. John Childress
collected more affidavits including the statement made by one who knew
him that "This old man is yet much afflicted from the wound he received
at King's Mountain, is extremely poor & cannot under any circumstances
live but a few years longer". John Childress (b. 1755) responded by
writing the following 2nd letter in support of his pension application:]
To the Commisioner of Pensions
Rutherford County,
May term 1833
Amended declarations of John Childress for a pension. On this 25th of
May 1833 in open court before us John Fletcher, Henry D. Jamison and
Varner D. Cowen the justices assigned to hold the court of pleas &
quarter sessions for said, County of Rutherford now sitting, personally
appeared John Childress who made the preceding original declaration for
a pension at the last November term of this court, & who, being duly
sworn deposeth & saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent
loss of memory, he can not swear positively to the precise length of his
service; but according to the best of his recollection he served not
less than the periods mentioned below, & in the following grades: For
four months I served as a private under Col. William Shepard in Capt.
James Shepard's Company, Arthur Tate, Lieutenant part of the time &
Hewlett the other part; For one month I served as a private under Col.
Cleveland being the campaign on which the battle of King's Mountain was
fought;
For three months I served as forage master under Col. Joseph Philips;
For three months I served as waggon master for Gen. Green's army; For
one year I served as a private in Bryant's fort where my service
commenced a few days before the first of January 1782, under the command
of Capt. Robt. Johnson and for such service in all one year and eleven
months I claim a pension.
I have no doubt but that periods of service above stated are short of my
actual service, but my memory is so very deficient, that I have thought
proper to mention such periods as I am sure will not exceed my term of
service.
To the first interrogation propounded I answer, I was born in Cumberland
County State of Vir. on the 5th day of May 1755 as my mother informed
me. To the second interrogatory I answer I never had any record of my
age. My father fell, as I am informed in Braddocks defeat, & I was born
in the same year. To the third, I answer, when called into service I
lived in Surry County, North Carolina, & have since the revolutionary
war lived as stated in my original declaration, & now live in Rutherford
County Tennessee. To the forth, I answer I always served as a
volunteer. To the fifth, I answer, I never knew any of the officers or
regiments of the continental army, except Gen. Green whom I saw & spoke
to at the ironworks on Hiatt (?) river just after the battle of Guilford
but I was not then in service. I also saw Gen. Green once while I was
waggon master, but t what place I can not now remember.
As to the militia officers & regiments with whom I served I refer to my
original declaration. The prisoners first guarded by Col. Joseph
Philips while I was forage master were the tories under Col. Rugeby (?)
being decoyed & made to surrender to Morgan by the stratagem of the
light wood log.
While I was waggon master, Mathew Brooks was quarter master, & it was at
Brooks request that I was made waggon master. Col. Martin Armstrong who
then was Col. of Surry county. My orders were to deliver at garrison
every Monday morning sixty bushels of grain.
Bryant's fort was attacked sometime in August 1782 by Indians under
McGurty. The fort was then commanded by Capt. John Craig, Johnston
being absent as a member Kentucky assembly. When attacked by Indians
Capt. Craig sent to Lexington to Col. Todd for relief. In a few days
Col. Todd with Col. Twigg with a small company of men arrived. On his
arrival the Indians had retreated. I wasn't with Col. Todd in their
pursuit & overtook them at Blue lick on Licking river about 40 miles
from the fort where the whites were defeated. The Indians took 14
prisoners [ed. note: Daniel Boone was one of the prisoners], as we were
informed, killed 4 immediately and carried ten to Detroit to the British
who exchanged them and they returned contrary to our expectations about
12 months after the battle. After the defeat about one half of our men
returned safely to the fort.
On my return from the expedition to the shawnee town, I remained as a
guard in Bryant's fort as long as there was any danger, but how long I
cannot well remember. I think my service in the fort was at least one
year. I state in my original declaration that I was in Bryant's fort
two years. This was a mistake. I served in the fort & lived in the
neighbourhood of it about two years. To the sixth question, I answer I
never received any written discharge that I now recollect. I received
two commissions from Col. Martin Armstrong one appointing me forage
master & the other waggon master, both of which commissions have been
lost or destroyed long since.
During the periods above mentioned in this amended declaration to which
I claim a pension I was not engaged or employed in any civil pursuit.
In addition to those whom I named in my original declaration, I now
mention as persons to whom I am known in my present neighbourhood, & who
can testify as to my character for veracity, & their belief of my
service as a soldier of the revolution, Thos. S. Rucher Esq., Lewis G.
Martin, Col. John Martin, Josephus Conn, & Hail Barton, which is my
answer to the first interrogatory.
Subscribed & sworn to before me this 25th day of May 1833. John R.
Laughlin, Clk.
John Childrerss (signature)
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, that the above
statements made by John Childress who has ____ true, & it is their
opinion that the answers to the interrogatories are true.
John Rucker (seal)
H. D. Jamison JP (seal)
V.D. Gown JP (seal)
Ed. Note: It is reported in the Childress/Childers Family Association
Newsletter "Our First Ten Years" 1988-1999, compiled by Patricia
Childress Spurling, e-mail Spurling @worldnet.att.net
that there are 2 children of John Childress and Martha Calhoon which
have been identified, Caladonia and Stephen.
1. Caladonia Childress m. Dr. D. L. Atkinson
2.Daughter Fannie E. Atkinson m. William H. Selph
3. Turley Atkinson (died young)
3. Kattie Belle Atkinson m. Andrew B. Johnson
3. Charlie Mae m. W. R. Coppock
1. Stephen Childress m. Nancy Walker
2 Judge Stephen Childress m. Jeanette Shute (daughter
of John Armstrong and Nancy Watkins Shute.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanne Faircloth [mailto:jeanne@woodscrw.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:00 AM
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Childress-L] Rev. War Battle of Cowpens
Gary - I have a copy of a pension application on John Childress, (dob
May 5,
1755 Cumberland County, VA) which mentions the Cowpens. I have not done
any
specific research on him, and as yet am not certain what, if any, his
role
at the Cowpens was. I do not yet know if he is related to my
grandmother's
Childress line. I only know that the copy of his pension application
was in
some papers the family found after my grandmother's passing this last
July.
I am trying to decipher the entire application and accompanying
affidavits,
retyping them in a MS Word file so that they are readable. Portions are
very difficult to read. Will forward a copy to you if you wish.
Let me know.
Jeanne Faircloth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark and Gary" <london2001(a)earthlink.net>
To: <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:54 PM
Subject: [Childress-L] Rev. War Battle of Cowpens
> Has anybody done any research on the Childress who was at the Battle
of
> Cowpens?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
>
>
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In The 1920 Halifax Co, South Boston,Virigina Census I found Joseph & Jennie Boothe, Grandparents,
Son Luther Boothe, Bertha S (wife)(children) Elvin Boothe, Herman Boothe, Lattie Boothe, Gladys Boothe, Annie Boothe.
Bertha Mildred Childress(17)lived with GP.
Clarence Dillard Childress(15) Living with Luther Boothe and Wife Bertha S. Any Information would help.
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Hi Ron,
DNA shows less than we all want....but more than we had before....
-----Original Message-----
From: ron.childress(a)comcast.net [mailto:ron.childress@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:42 PM
To: CHILDRESS-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: people in the process of taking the DNA test
Gary:
What will my final analsis indicate? Will it show that the real
"Childress" was the begining of life on earth as we know it? Kidding of
course.
How will we be able to connect to Virginia? Ultimately back to England?
Ron
> Update........
>
> We have 9 new people in the process of taking the DNA test. 4 people
> have received and returned their kits and are awaiting laboratory
> results... and 5 people have signed up the past 2 weeks and should be
> returning their kits shortly. We expect to have about 34 people to
have
> returned kits by the end of the year. 4 additional people are
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the
> test.
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>
>
> For those submitting their tests recently, results will be known from
> mid-November to mid-December, after which I'll be posting a year end
> review, summary, speculation and ideas about what this first year of
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> our research.
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Update........
We have 9 new people in the process of taking the DNA test. 4 people
have received and returned their kits and are awaiting laboratory
results... and 5 people have signed up the past 2 weeks and should be
returning their kits shortly. We expect to have about 34 people to have
returned kits by the end of the year. 4 additional people are
dormant...they received kits but no longer seem interested in taking the
test.
For those submitting their tests recently, results will be known from
mid-November to mid-December, after which I'll be posting a year end
review, summary, speculation and ideas about what this first year of DNA
testing may be telling us and how we are using the information to help
our research.
Gary