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Is there anyone related to C.T.Childress of Calesburg, ILL of the 19th Century. He manufactured rudimentary, (stone age) washing machine devices. One such device is for sale on EBAY auction for $40. If you want to look at a picture of it go to
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=108735681
Gary Childress
In a message dated 5/26/1999 1:47:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
CHILDRESS-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
> ay makes a truly valid point that the so-called "research"
> >underlying family trees submitted to the LDS archives by the
> >public, purporting to lay out Childress genealogy, is
> >riddled with inaccuracies. There is no substitute for
> >original research. The LDS is an excellent source for
> >original records, although those records may not yet be
> >available on-line.
The LDS online records should "never" be taken as source material. They are
to used as a guide line to where the original source material is (usually on
microfilm). Good researchs know this. They also know that you "never" take
what is in a typed book or genealogy quarterly, etc. as the gosple truth.
Anyone can make typing errors. Always go to the source to be sure. (And
sometimes, even a primary document can be wrong! Get several different
sources and compare them. Sometimes, research is only guess work and
estimation.)
If you will combine FamilySearch (one word) with the data from USGenWeb and
other sources, then go to the Family History Centers to get the primary
documentation... WOW. You can take most of the "search" out of the word
"re-search". Mmmm does the word "re-search" mean that we need to search and
"re"search each item? Guess so.
Got to share this with you. Was in Baton Rouge at the State archives Fri and
Sat. I was pulling and copying "original and primary" documentation from
handwritten souces made back in the 1700 and 1800s. As they say down here, I
was in "hog heaven." A genealogy friend (newbie who lives in Barton Rouge)
was sitting and un-patiencely waiting for me. She wanted to go to the
Bluebonnet Regional Library which she "loved". (I've never been there.)
Finally we go. Great place. Rows and rows of newly published books by
authors such as me and you... full of typos, secondary material, etc. This
is what she is using to document her family tree.
Annette in Louisiana
30+ years in genealogy
30+ in Childress & Womack
33+ as member of LDS Church
Here is a note from my files, I have more for the realted people.
Dan
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Richard RATLIFF b 1799 d aft 1850 m1) Sarah CHILDRESS 6 Jan 1820/8. m2)
Lydia RATLIFF 2 Jul 1833.
Lydia RATLIFF b 1800, d Jan 1862 m Richard RATLIFF 2 Jul 1833.
Abednego RATLIFF b 1804, d 4 Jun 1890 m Louisa "Vicy" MATNEY. She d/o
Walter & Nancy (MOORE) MATNEY, Walter s/o Brooks & Jannit (YOUNG) MATNEY of
Tazewell Co, VA.
Dear Ann,
The address is 8403 Seranata Drive, Whittier, CA 90603-1054
Thanks
Mark
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Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 8:15 AM
Subject: [CHILDRESS-L] ATTN: MARK CHILDRESS
This email is for Mark. Need your mailing address. Have
package ready to post.
Ann B. Chambless
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Hi, I too would like to know if there is a Childress tartan. We are Scot in
a couple of lines and would like to add a third. Next re: LDS site. As
many have said before me, and I will repeat, this information has been given
by human beings very capable of making mistakes. I did not find our
Childress line when I last looked, so I don't know if it is on line now or
not. However, I will restate, my mother in law was the daughter of a
CHILDRESS. And, I might add very proud of it, but when we got her death
certificate, her mother's name was spelled Childers. I know for a fact,
that I spelled it correctly to the funeral director who submitted the
information to the state of Kansas. It is too late now so go back and
change it, I think. I also have 3 other death certificates from this same
family that has incorrect information on all of them. I repeat, so much for
the original document. In another line, I was using information from the
county when I got a rubbing from a tomb stone which was very different from
what the county had given me. My old man became a very young man and the
parents initials from the stone told us exactly who his parents were. I has
spent money running adds in different genealogy publication trying to find
my "old" man and his family. I know this is an imprecise science, but the
point I am making is that not even "official original" documents are 100%
correct. I am sure there are a lot of horror stories out there that excel
mine so we hopefully trudge on. Thanks for letting me vent. Mary Wright
-----Original Message-----
From: Brooke Childress <tmsgrl(a)hotmail.com>
To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CHILDRESS-L] LDS site
>Hello,
>
>I have been looking for the Childress family tartan. The only tartan I
>could find was listed as Childers. Does anyone know what the Scottish
>tartan would be for the Childress clan? It would be nice to have something
>to show the family! Are there any reports of what the name of the tartan
>would be?
>
>Thanks for your time!
>
>Regards,
>Brooke Childress
>
>>From: "Mark Childress" <london2000(a)fea.net>
>>Reply-To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [CHILDRESS-L] LDS site
>>Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:56:06 -0700
>>
>>Thank you, Jay.
>>
>>Many Childers researchers have had a history of making no
>>distinction between the "Childers" and "Childress" families.
>>
>>The Childresses trace to the 1745 (and later) emigration(s)
>>that is mentioned on the gravestone of the father of Sarah
>>Childress Polk. Records created in Virginia before 1745 -
>>births, deaths, wills, marriages, deeds - will be Childers
>>documents, including John B. Childers (born 1714 in Henrico
>>Co. Va. who married Rachel Perkins) and also Henry Childers
>>(who married Mary Farmer in 1734 in Chesterfield Co., VA).
>>Both records pre-date the Childress 1745 crossing to
>>America.
>>
>>Jay makes a truly valid point that the so-called "research"
>>underlying family trees submitted to the LDS archives by the
>>public, purporting to lay out Childress genealogy, is
>>riddled with inaccuracies. There is no substitute for
>>original research. The LDS is an excellent source for
>>original records, although those records may not yet be
>>available on-line.
>>
>>- Listowners
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joseph Childress <tndrjay(a)icx.net>
>>To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>>Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 6:30 PM
>>Subject: [CHILDRESS-L] LDS site
>>
>>
>>Hi Childress Cousins
>> I just went to the new LDS site and looked to see what
>>they had on
>>the part of the Childress family that is the main focus for
>>me, John
>>Childress (1759-1849). For those who have not been there as
>>yet they
>>have an Ancestral File Page where you type in a name,
>>parentage, and
>>spouse then submit to see if there is a match. There was a
>>match but
>>the material was not recognizable to the information I
>>have. They have
>>this John as one of 12 children of John Childress and Rachel
>>Perkins.
>>The first was born in 1750 (Mitchell) and the last 1797.
>>Let me say
>>right off I have grave doubts that these were my John's
>>parents, and I
>>did find the information comical as it was so mixed up.
>>Unless this
>>Elizabeth was like Abram's wife Sara in the Bible who
>>conceived in her
>>90's, we may have an 18th century miracle with children born
>>47 years
>>apart. . What a gal.
>> Also they had taken John lineage back to Abram Childers
>>and Jane
>>Howard via Abram II, Henry Childress to John b 1733. They
>>did have the
>>marriages of John, 1759, correct but there is so much error,
>>I hope
>>researchers do not look at this as fact because the LDS are
>>suppose to
>>be such good researchers.
>> This one is not too hot.
>> For your information the site address is as follows:
>><http:\\www.familysearch.org/>
>>Jay Childress
>>
>>
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You may be able to correct the error on your mother-in-law's death
certificate. A few years ago I requested a copy of my birth certificate. On
it my mother's maiden name was listed as "Childers" when the family had
always used "Childress." I requested a correction be made and the state of
AL did make the correction and sent me a new document. However, when I
finally started doing my genealogical research on my Childress line I found
that my grandfather's grandfather, James Childress, had started using the
spelling of "Childress" after moving to AL from SC about 1850. In SC he was
known as James Childers and his father was Francis Ware Childers. So - the
error was actually correct in this case.
Barbara
Hello,
I have been looking for the Childress family tartan. The only tartan I
could find was listed as Childers. Does anyone know what the Scottish
tartan would be for the Childress clan? It would be nice to have something
to show the family! Are there any reports of what the name of the tartan
would be?
Thanks for your time!
Regards,
Brooke Childress
>From: "Mark Childress" <london2000(a)fea.net>
>Reply-To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CHILDRESS-L] LDS site
>Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:56:06 -0700
>
>Thank you, Jay.
>
>Many Childers researchers have had a history of making no
>distinction between the "Childers" and "Childress" families.
>
>The Childresses trace to the 1745 (and later) emigration(s)
>that is mentioned on the gravestone of the father of Sarah
>Childress Polk. Records created in Virginia before 1745 -
>births, deaths, wills, marriages, deeds - will be Childers
>documents, including John B. Childers (born 1714 in Henrico
>Co. Va. who married Rachel Perkins) and also Henry Childers
>(who married Mary Farmer in 1734 in Chesterfield Co., VA).
>Both records pre-date the Childress 1745 crossing to
>America.
>
>Jay makes a truly valid point that the so-called "research"
>underlying family trees submitted to the LDS archives by the
>public, purporting to lay out Childress genealogy, is
>riddled with inaccuracies. There is no substitute for
>original research. The LDS is an excellent source for
>original records, although those records may not yet be
>available on-line.
>
>- Listowners
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Childress <tndrjay(a)icx.net>
>To: CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHILDRESS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 6:30 PM
>Subject: [CHILDRESS-L] LDS site
>
>
>Hi Childress Cousins
> I just went to the new LDS site and looked to see what
>they had on
>the part of the Childress family that is the main focus for
>me, John
>Childress (1759-1849). For those who have not been there as
>yet they
>have an Ancestral File Page where you type in a name,
>parentage, and
>spouse then submit to see if there is a match. There was a
>match but
>the material was not recognizable to the information I
>have. They have
>this John as one of 12 children of John Childress and Rachel
>Perkins.
>The first was born in 1750 (Mitchell) and the last 1797.
>Let me say
>right off I have grave doubts that these were my John's
>parents, and I
>did find the information comical as it was so mixed up.
>Unless this
>Elizabeth was like Abram's wife Sara in the Bible who
>conceived in her
>90's, we may have an 18th century miracle with children born
>47 years
>apart. . What a gal.
> Also they had taken John lineage back to Abram Childers
>and Jane
>Howard via Abram II, Henry Childress to John b 1733. They
>did have the
>marriages of John, 1759, correct but there is so much error,
>I hope
>researchers do not look at this as fact because the LDS are
>suppose to
>be such good researchers.
> This one is not too hot.
> For your information the site address is as follows:
><http:\\www.familysearch.org/>
>Jay Childress
>
>
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Hi all,
I can't recall if I've posted these strays before but hope that they can
help someone out. I think they probably connect SOMEwhere with my husband's
line, but as yet have not made the connection.
From the 1880 Carroll Co., TN census:
Childress, Elizah 30 and Sis 36 (that's all the info available)
Childress, Sterl (Sterling?) 40
Mary 42
Ida J 19
Thomas 17
William 13
Bettie 15
Katie 11
Dina 9
Taylor 5
Biola 2
Good luck!
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Hi,
Someone sent along information to me that a WILLIAM CHILDRESS died in
Knox Co. TN in 1831. He named in his will a wife, Peggy, sons, Fleming
and William Jr. and a daughter named Polly Johnson. He is included in
the 1830 census of Knox Co. TN. It is possible that William was related
to Mitchell Childress of Knox Co. TN who is being discussed right now.
As I understand, William Childress's son-in-law, Elijah Johnson, was an
executor of Mitchell Childress's will.
I am particuarly interested in the Fleming Childress mentioned. I have
an ancestor, Fleming Childress, who married twice. The first marriage
was to Nancy Pugh in 1803 (or 1805, depending on the source) in Campbell
Co. VA. He married second time to Elizabeth (Betsy) Boyd in 1808 in
Halifax Co.VA. I do know that Fleming had ties with North Carolina and
it is very possible that he spent some time in TN before moving to
Spencer County before 1840 along with several of his children. He died
in Spencer County in 1845.
Does anyone have any information on the names I have mentioned? Thank
you. Marilyn Cossler Garrison
THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR GARY CHILDRESS, but may be of
interest to others on the List:
Mitchell Childress, Sr., born Oct 1750 in Henrico Co, VA.
Moved from Amherst Co, VA to Wilkes Co, NC, and served in
Rev War from Wilkes Co, NC. His Rev War Pension
Application No. 7569 shows he was placed on the Roll of E.
Tennessee at the rate of $23.33 per annum to commence on
March 4, 1831. Mitchell Childress, Sr. died in 1844 in
Knox Co, TN. He was twice married: first to Hannah
Webb and later to Rachel Hendrix in March 1815 in Knox Co,
TN. His heirs were listed in Mitchell Childress' will,
and included, among others, his son, John K. Childress.
Mitchell Childress, Sr.'s will was probated in Knox Co, TN
in 1844.
A copy of a letter written on May 22, 1854, (AT THE REQUEST
OF JOHN K. CHILDRESS), by R. T. Scott, to the Commissioner
of Pensions, Washington City, reads as follows:
"I am requested by Mr. John K. Childers, who resides in my
neighborhood, by letter bearing date May 12, Inst(ant) to
make the necessary enquiry in the pension office in
relation to the Pension of HIS FATHER Mitchell Childers.
Said pension is in consideration of Rev. services under the
act of Congress 1832. I wish to ascertain the amount
paid, and the precise date at which his pension stopped,
and how much is due his heirs remaining unpaid, and any
other information concerning said pension furnished by the
? in your office, an early answer is desired. Your
obedient servant,
R. T. Scott
Agent for the State of Alabama"
NOTE ONE: The words in all caps were typed in caps to
show emphasis. Also, I typed the surname as spelled in
the original transcription. FYI, R. T. Scott was the
founder of Scottsboro, Alabama, the town in which John K.
Childress settled, married, raised his family, and died in
Jackson Co, AL.
NOTE TWO: John K. Childress, son of Mitchell and Rachel
(Hendrix) Childress, moved from Knox Co, TN to Jackson
County, AL when he was about 21 years of age. WHY???
John K. Childress purchased 80 acres of prime land in
Jackson Co, AL in 1836; therefore, he must have received an
advance on his inheritance from Mitchell and Rachel
Childress before he left E. Tennessee and headed for North
Alabama. John K. Childress served in the Creek Indian War
from June 14, 1836, until Aug 17, 1836, and served in the
Cherokee Removal in 1838. Both times he volunteered for
military service in Jackson Co, AL. Much of his personal
vitae has been obtained from his bounty land and pension
applications based on his 1836 and 1838 military service
record. He was well educated, taught school, served as a
school and church trustee, and was elected and served as
Justice of the Peace in Jackson Co, AL for a number of
years. He must have placed a great emphasis on classical
education, as all his children were well educated for this
locale and period of time. This is considered an
important factor, as very little emphasis was placed on
education in this area immediately after the Civil War.
Civil War destruction and reconstruction both took a heavy
toll on family finances. Due to necessity, most families'
primary goal was survival and the rebuilding of family
farms. There were no public schools, and education came
at a great price and sacrifice of what little income the
families were able to eke out of the good earth.
Would like to correspond with descendants of Mitchell
Childress, Sr.
Ann B. Chambless
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THIS EMAIL is PRIMARILY for MARK CHILDRESS:
The oral family history of John Childress, Jr. who moved
from East Tennessee to North Alabama circa 1819-1820, was
passed on to me by now deceased Childress descendants. I
have nothing in writing to share, as I was among the first
who began to record family stories/genealogy research for
the families descended from the John Childress who married
Mary (Polly) Kirby on November 8, 1796, in Blount County,
TN. In 1974, I visited in Maryville, TN, and obtained a
copy of their marriage bond from the Blount County, TN's
clerk's offfice. I will mail you a copy, but the following
is typed verbatim from the certified copy:
"24 Mariage (sic) Bond John Childers Mary Curbey
Isd 8 of 1796
John Childers to Mary Curbey
Sec. Robert Rhea"
Mary Curbey was Mary Kirby, daughter of Richard and Sarah
(Small) Kirby who lived near the Blount-Knox Co, TN line.
(NOTE: Family researchers think these two individuals may
have known each other in NC before their respective
families moved to East Tennessee in the early 1790s.)
I have no source document for the "known children" of John
and Mary (Kirby) Childress. The information I have on the
families associated with this Childress-Kirby family has
literally been "dug" out of census, court, old newspapers
(when available), and visits with the oldest living
descendants I could find at the time. John and Mary
(Kirby) Childress had been dead about 130 years when I
first attempted to document their existence (in the early
1970s.) All of the older family members who shared their
memories with me then are now deceased. There have been no
books, manuscripts, family Bibles, and like primary sources
to turn to. I did work with three others who were doing
the same thing I attempted to do, and we did pool our
findings. Being the youngest of the four cited
researchers, I am now the only one still alive and still
"digging" for our roots. I have made some false
assumptions, but I have never stopped trying to locate
better source materials for a more accurate family picture.
THE BASIC FACT to REMEMBER for JACKSON COUNTY, AL is:
John and Mary (Kirby) Childress are the only Childress
family enumerated on the 1830 Jackson County, AL census.
I initially tried to connect the John in Jackson Co, AL
with the Childresses who appear in early neighboring
Madison Co, AL records, but found absolutely nothing to
make that association possible.
For a number of years, I assumed that my own John Kirby
Childress, born 1815 in Knox Co, TN (per his Indian Wars
bounty land application) was the son of the above cited
John and Mary (Kirby) Childress. That is why I worked so
hard researching the Kirby lineage as well as the Childress
lineage. THEN to my amazement I discovered a TYPED
TRANSCRIPT copy of a letter in Mitchell Childress, Sr.'s
Rev War pension application papers in the SAR records in
Knoxville, TN. By separate email, I will transcribe that
letter for you and this List.
Ann B. Chambless
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Who did your Sallie CHILDRESS Marry? I have a Sarah "Sally" Parker who
married. Daniel Maury(pronounced MAL-RA, b. 8 Dec. 1822, md. Sally Ann
Childress
he died 26 September, 1898 , Anderson Co. Tx. I know nothing about my Sally
Childress. Know quite a bit about the parkers.
Gladys
Hi, Does anyone know anything about this family?
Sarah "Sallie" Childress b. May 1815 in Rutherford County, Tennessee,
daughter of Isom Childress and Patience Parker.
any help is appreciated!
Lynne Norris
The post of May 11, 1999 states in part:
One of Richard and Rebecca
(White) Childress' descendants state that Richard and
Rebecca (White) Childress moved to Jackson Co, AL, with his
parents, but returned to Knox Co, TN in or shortly after
1821. Richard Childress and family are found on the 1830
Knox Co, TN census in same general neighborhood with John,
Lindsey, the two Roberts, and James Childress. Richard
and Rebecca (White) Childress later moved to Illinois where
they finished rearing their family and where both die.
I have a Nevada CHILDRESS in 1880 Clark Co, Darwin Township, IL census shown
living with aunt and uncle David and Jane Beachum. He was 7 years old at the
time, so assuming his parents had died between 1873 and 1880. Could Nevada
Childress be a child of Richard and Rebecca Childress?? Nevada is my
ggrandfather, and I can't go back any farther until I find his parents.
Thanks in advance for any knowledge you may have of this family.
Pam Reynolds Lawhorn
JOHN CHILDRESS PATENT: Amherst County, VA, 320 ACRES on
both sides of PEDLAR RIVER, Amherst Co, VA, PATENTS E,
1780-1781, page 232.
When was this 320 acres sold by John Childress and to whom?
Ann B. Chambless
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In 1785, two JOHN CHILDRESSES were enumerated next to James
Edmondson (daughter married a John Childress), and George
Taylor (married another daughter of James Edmondson on the
1785 AMHERST CO, VA Tax List.
In 1790, JOHN CHILDRESS lived near James Edmondson in
Wilkes Co, NC. John Childress was called son-in-law of
James Edmondson in J. Edmondson's will made in 1793 and
probated in 1794 in Wilkes Co, NC.
Since the 1785 Amherst Co, VA Tax List shows two John
Childresses living next to James Edmondson, it is
interesting to note geographic locations cited in James
Edmondson's son's Revolutionary War pension application as
follows:
William Edmiston/Edmondson, from Wilkes Co, NC on Aug 2,
1844, 84 years of age, deposed he substitued in Rev. War
for his brother, Robert Edmiston/Edmondson for 3 months
beginning in October 1778 and entered service from AMHERST
CO, VA where he (William Edmiston/Edmondson) resided.
WILLIAM EDMISTON/EDMONDSON R E T U R N E D to his father,
James Edmiston/Edmondson's house on head water of PEDLAR
RIVER in AMHERST CO, VA, where he (William) lived until Mar
1, 1779, when he emigrated to Lower Creek in Burke Co, NC,
and served in the Rev War again. After the surrender of
Cornwallis, William returned to AMHERST CO, VA, but again
emigrated to Burke Co, NC where he lived for a number of
years until he moved to Wilkes Co, NC about 1841.
This deposition provides the most definitive recorded
statement I have found relative to the place of residence
of JOHN CHILDRESS in Amherst Co, VA: on the head water of
the Pedlar River.
Ann B. Chambless
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