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Dear List,
If you need reference, please see the message below, which is from the
Childress Research-List archives - "Abraham Childress lll, [AKA] Abraham Childers
lll" - who was father of MARY ANN CHILDRESS, named MARY ANN CARTER in her
father's will, suggested wife of SOLOMON CARTER - Parents of PETER CARTER who
had KEZIAH CARTER who married ROBERT CHILDRESS, son of JOHN CHILDRESS, born
1759 VA, died 1848, Knox County, TN - [ARW soldier] -
_Click here:
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDR...
(http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDR...)
I'm bringing this up again, due to information I found [finally] in my
missing box of Childress data - I don't know what to think about it. Perhaps any
one of you can tell me and the rest of the list if Virginia Hanks, the long
time and seasoned researcher is still with us. Would anyone know this? If
she is still with us, then perhaps either myself or someone can contact her
regarding the following information - Why this has not been mentioned before is
anyone's guess. The genealogical tree Gary and Mark Childress presented as
their own Childress - Carter family is certainly the one Virginia Hanks is
referencing.
SOURCE -
"CHILDRESS CHATTER", Published by: Mrs. Molly Bateman Reigard, Huffman, TX -
ISSUE NO. 40, APRIL 1989 - PAGE number 2 - Consecutive Page no. 474 - Exactly
as it reads -
From VIRGINIA HANKS:
I have been reading a long reel of micro filmed court records (from
Amherst Co., VA), found the following, which is not direct quotes but my wording:
AMHERST CO. [VA] JUNE 1774 Court -
A deed from PETER CARTER and MARY ANN, his wife, to ISAAC WRIGHT, with
MARY ANN asserting thereto. (Proves Mary Ann's husband).
AMHERST CO. NOVEMBER 1774 Court -
Order of the court to bind out JOHN CHILDERS, a bastard child of MARY ANN
CARTER, late MARY CHILDERS, according to law. (Proves parentage of JOHN).
SOLOMON CARTER, father of KEZIAH who married a CHILDERS, had a son named
PETER...so it is possible he is related to the PETER CARTER who married MARY
ANN CHILDERS?. - - END.
Does anyone have anything on this? A bastard child named JOHN Childers?
Another Mary Ann? Comments anyone?
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
Dear List -
For those of you who have searched GA records for your family, there is a
valuable source which I've used. It covers WILKES COUNTY, GA. Wilkes County
was once called, Washington-Wilkes, it was the largest county, with 58,000
people. Many of the later counties were carved from Wilkes. The book is in the
GA Archives (previously Atlanta, now Morrow, GA) - I have now seen the book
(Volume One) online as follows -
- _http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/books/early-records-of-ga-vol1/index.shtml_
(http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/books/early-records-of-ga-vol1/index.shtml)
-
"THE EARLY RECORDS OF GEORGIA, VOL. ONE, WILKES COUNTY" - From the name
index as they were spelt - As follows -
CHILDERS, RICHARD -
CHILDREE, THOMAS - WILLIAM -
CHILIPSES, WILLIAM
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
Dear List -
Reading the DNA results and having discussion about it, I've noticed several
posts to both Childers and Childress-List asking this question. Seems
almost everyone who's taken the DNA or has a family member taking it, said,
"Abraham" - If you fall in to what they call, "Viking group," then my questions is
this. Have any of you ever heard of the arrival of TWO who lived on the
Bennett Plantation near Jamestown, VA? Those two according to my cousin (who was
a professional genealogist and whose now deceased), said she found the
reference. Before I could discuss this with her, she passed away. Greta called me
on the phone with this "new" information and promised to send me the proof,
she sadly passed away and I never got her letter. Here is what Greta Holomon
(Childress descendant) said per her last phone call to me. - - -
Two arrived by the name of Thomas Philemon or just the initial T, and
Abraham and the spelling was CHILDRIS, arrival about 1634c. Both lived on the
Bennett Plantation just outside Jamestown, VA. They were among two of about 200
living there. In a list, they were shown as having "survived." I don't know
what that meant, other than perhaps they were spared by Indians or sickness.
I believe they were father and son or brothers. - End -
This is all she said, I wrote her as she had no computer, she had passed
away without my knowledge. I've posted messages about her comments on other
forums, but to not start another war here, have any of you ever read anything
even remotely like this before? Sure, I've seen the ship lists. There were
not that many (Childres or Childers) on them, several or more, with the name
spelt as Childers, Childres, Childrey. So if you have information or have
heard this before, share it with us. Going over all Greta's letters, this one I
had forgotten about till now. With all the DNA discussion, I thought it
might be interesting to you'all.
I've also read messages from those who've taken the DNA and they mostly say,
"In the Abraham group." Which one? The Abraham in most of the discussion
of here is Abraham lll as the VA Genealogist Magazine called him. Isn't he
the one whose father was left land from the deed between Abraham CHILDRES and
William HARRIS in 1656? How do we really know if several of those in the
earliest records of VA were brothers or not? It would certainly seem so, but
since there seem to be off shoots from Philemon, Thomas and Abraham and the
early naming pattern, Childres and Childers? And for that matter, the later
Childrey's in VA, with creeks and a church named after them (Cindy Childrey) -
What then? Feel free to comment, what do you'all think, come on Childress and
Childers cousins...tell me what you really think.
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
Con,
I suppose one can discuss family names which link to the Childers or
Childress on the list:) Since my children are double Childress and their ancestry
links thru both parents...I believe it's ok to discuss it:)
The documentation suggests the same old story. Like Childress /Childers -
Coile-Kile-Kyle-Keil (on and on), Mitchell / Michel - Stewart / Stuart,
Robertson / Robinson. I don't think I need to say more do I?
I'm convinced with Hewlett - Hughlett, it's just the way it is, whether or
not there was reason for the eventual consistency in the spelling of Hewlett,
I have no idea. However, I do know one branch spelt it with even one T. My
mother-in-law gave an educated guess and came up with about the same
conclusion as I did. I discussed it with her extended family and like other
ancestors from my children's ancestry, such as Calhoun, which is anything but the
(original) spelling till it reached America, I always indicate both spellings of
Hughlett and Hewlett because that is how it was spelt in original copies of
documents. Many of which my mother-in-law had in her possession (from her gr
gr grandparents of Nashville, TN) in which she passed on to me. My
mother-in-law was also a Childress descendant, some have said Childers, she said
Childress. So there you go.
MaryJean
MaryJean,
I know this discussion has no real relevance to the list, since William
Hughlett was witness to 16 marriages in the cited publication, making the
fact that he witnessed Matthew and Mary's marriage unnoteworthy, but I'm
curious as to why I can find no references online which match your
assertion that Hewlett and Hughlett are interchangable. When did Hewlett
turn into Hughlett or vice versa?
Con
> [Original Message]
> From: <MJCV25(a)aol.com>
> To: <CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 5/9/2005 6:14:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHILDRESS] More on MATTHEW CHILDRESS and others -
CORRECTION -
>
>
>
> Con,
>
> Re: The witness for Coile-Childress marriage bond - NC -
>
> Didn't see anything in your message regarding a (2001) past message and
from
> Kay, thought it was a new one I'd not seen! Thanks for the clarification.
>
> Hewlett and Hughlett were interchangeable in the documentation for my
> children's (Hughlett-Hewlett) ancestors. Yes, I know of William's
activities in NC,
> but thank you just the same. And yes, the (Hughlett) you mention was my
> children's ancestor.
>
> MaryJean
>
Con,
Re: The witness for Coile-Childress marriage bond - NC -
Didn't see anything in your message regarding a (2001) past message and from
Kay, thought it was a new one I'd not seen! Thanks for the clarification.
Hewlett and Hughlett were interchangeable in the documentation for my
children's (Hughlett-Hewlett) ancestors. Yes, I know of William's activities in NC,
but thank you just the same. And yes, the (Hughlett) you mention was my
children's ancestor.
MaryJean
MaryJean,
There is a posting to this list by Kay dated 9 Jun 2001 which clearly
shows the witness to be Wm. Hughlett and not William Hewlett. I checked
the indicies of all the publications I have on Surry and Stokes Counties.
There are no Hewletts in any of them. William Hughlett was a prominent
citizen of Surry County with about 4 dozen entries in the Court minutes
alone.
Con
> [Original Message]
> From: <MJCV25(a)aol.com>
> To: <CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 5/9/2005 11:06:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHILDRESS] More on MATTHEW CHILDRESS and others -
CORRECTION -
>
>
>
> Dear List -
> Con -
>
> RE: Correction on William Hewlett and Hobson - Regarding Matthew
Childress
> marriage (bond) to Mary Armstrong COILE -
>
> Sorry about that, I made an error regarding (my children's) ancestor!
Capt.
> William Hobson of VA and Davidson County, TN, had a daughter who married
> WILLIAM HEWLETT. It was NOT Capt. William Hobson's "granddaughter."
The
> daughter in question was NANCY (Anna Maria) Hobson and she married
WILLIAM HEWLETT.
> The same William Hewlett who witnessed the (NC) marriage bond of
Matthew
> Childress to Mary Armstrong COILE. Nancy (Anna Maria) Hobson Hewlett,
was a
> direct descendant of John Hobson and Sarah Childress of VA. Nancy also
was
> related thru her immediate family (in TN) to James Jackson of TN and AL.
It
> was James (Jackson's) nephew who married the daughter of Thomas
Childress, one
> of the first settlers in that part of AL (after he left TN). If you
want
> further information, please let me know.
>
> MaryJean
>
Dear List -
Con -
RE: Correction on William Hewlett and Hobson - Regarding Matthew Childress
marriage (bond) to Mary Armstrong COILE -
Sorry about that, I made an error regarding (my children's) ancestor! Capt.
William Hobson of VA and Davidson County, TN, had a daughter who married
WILLIAM HEWLETT. It was NOT Capt. William Hobson's "granddaughter." The
daughter in question was NANCY (Anna Maria) Hobson and she married WILLIAM HEWLETT.
The same William Hewlett who witnessed the (NC) marriage bond of Matthew
Childress to Mary Armstrong COILE. Nancy (Anna Maria) Hobson Hewlett, was a
direct descendant of John Hobson and Sarah Childress of VA. Nancy also was
related thru her immediate family (in TN) to James Jackson of TN and AL. It
was James (Jackson's) nephew who married the daughter of Thomas Childress, one
of the first settlers in that part of AL (after he left TN). If you want
further information, please let me know.
MaryJean
Hi Patrick,
Thank you for the update (DNA). I have a question regarding the Dover
family? Can you tell us how the Dover's came to take the Childers / Childress DNA
test? What led them to take it? I'm wondering if they had an adoption they
were aware of or what were the circumstances unless this is private?
Also regarding the Jackson's? I worked with a relative several years ago
due to her ancestor, James Jackson of TN and AL. His (James Jackson) nephew
married a daughter of Thomas Childress. I have the lineage of the family and
in fact, I can forward you the messages from this list's archives if you like.
I'm just making sure the Jackson your speaking of, is not connected in some
way to the James Jackson - Childress families.
Thank you for the information on your DNA website, very interesting!
MaryJean (Childress-Voegtlin)
Dear List -
Con -
The actual name of the papers in TN is - GRACE ARMSTRONG COILE COLLECTION of
ROBERT ARMSTRONG PAPERS - 1791-1930 - Her name was NOT Mary that I could
see. However, it does still have "Armstrong-Coile."
_http://wwwstate.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsus/mguide16.htm_
(http://wwwstate.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsus/mguide16.htm)
OR -
_Click here: Guide to Manuscript Materials in TSLA [Pt. 16]_
(http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/mguide16.htm)
As many of you already know. John Childress (of VA, NC & TN) married
Elizabeth Armstrong out of NC. John was named in William Armstrong's will. Not
saying the above Robert Armstrong connects, I just find it an interesting
thought that there is a remote chance. We do see Armstrong involved with
Childress, no doubt about that. John Childress was widowed and he married 2nd Nancy
Hickman, they migrated to TN. This John Childress was son of Henry and Mary
Farmer Childers or Childress from Lunenburg County / Charlotte County, VA.
This would be John Sr whose son was a Judge also named John who married the
Robertson, who was niece to one of the earliest founders of Nashville, TN.
Judge John Childress son, George Campbell Childress, was the author of the Texas
Declaration of Independence.
MaryJean
Thanks Con -
I agree, the middle name for Mary was not Anderson (to my knowledge). Her
full name was Mary ARMSTRONG COILE. The marriage bond with Matthew Childress
was dated December 14, 1794, Stokes Co, NC. NC Marriage Bonds 1741-1868,
#00137787. William Hewlett was witness. William Hewlett of NC was the direct
ancestor of my children. It is interesting to me, that he married the
granddaughter of Capt. William Hobson who was a direct Childress descendant himself and
the Hobson's were from VA. Interesting to, Capt. William Hobson's other
daughter who was connected by marriage to James Jackson of TN and AL, and her
family was one in the same of whom James Jackson's nephew married the daughter
of Thomas Childress (See my messages on Jackson in the archives). The name
Hobson pops up in Childress marriages, wills, deeds, witnesses and now a Hobson
son in law (William Hewlett) is witness in NC to another Childress marriage.
William Hewlett, settled in Nashville, Davidson County, TN. He in fact was
involved with the ARW Pension Papers for John Childress born 1755 VA and who
lastly married Martha Calhoun.
Now back to Coile - According to the Coile's, Mary Armstrong Coile
Childress had a daughter named Sara or Sarah Ann Childress and she married Solomon
O'dell, they say in Surry Co, NC, you are correct.
Oddly, there are Mary A. Coile, (I believe this is where the Anderson might
have been confused with the other Mary). family papers in the TN State
Archives.
MaryJean
Dear List,
In the last post the cite from Kay should have read "John Armstrong Childress, son of Matthew Childress and wife Mary, born May 3, 1813."
Con
Conduff Childress
cchldrss(a)mindspring.com
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Dear List,
This is a follow up post to clarify (hopefully) the data on Matthew
Childress. The elder Matthew Childress (referred to as Matthew SR. in my
previous post) married Elizabeth (Jane) Turner and they had a daughter
Sally born 9 Jul 1772 and baptized 16 May 1773 along with William SR's. and
Major's daughters on that day in Goochland Co VA. Matthew SR and Major at
some point moved to Pittsylvania Co VA where Matthew SR shows up in the
following records:
Oath of Allegiance with James and Major in 1777 on Thomas Dillard's List.
William was on Stephen Coleman's List.
Head of family in 1782 with 6 whites and no slaves
Personal Property in 1783 with 1 white > 21, 0 slaves, 1 horse, and 4 cattle
On 6 Nov 1783 he purchased for 25 pounds VA money 385 acres on the east
side of Seneca Creek (William SR had an earlier land grant on Seneca Creek)
in Campbell Co VA. On 5 Apr 1785 he and his wife Elizabeth sold 93 acres to
Daniel Brown and 193 acres to David Johnson (likely their son-in-law). On
26 Dec 1785 the remaining 100 (99) acres were sold to John Vest. Matthew
continued to pay taxes on the 99 acres in 1787 and 1788 although he had by
this time relocated to Surry Co NC. John Vest sold on 25 Aug 1787 the 100
acres to Samuel Welch (recorded 4 Apr 1788).
Matthew had an earlier land grant in Surry Co (entered 30 Dec 1778,
surveyed 18 Mar 1792, issued 27 Jun 1793) for 200 acres (chain carriers for
this were Joseph and William Jr. -- the two oldest sons of William Sr.) He
first shows up on the Tax Rolls for Surry Co in 1786 with 150 acres and 1
white poll in Lovills District. There were no tax rolls preserved for 1787
or 1788. He next shows up with 200 acres and 1 white poll in 1789 in
Hughlett's District. Matthew SR's continuing tax records are in Stokes Co
(formed from Surry in 1790) and contain no polls. This is curious since the
age exemption did not go into effect in NC until 1801. He either had a
court ordered exemption for health (and or age) reasons which was not
preserved or was no longer living in the county. The pattern of declining
acerage suggest the former may be the case.
1790 200 acres Hughlett's District (1790 Census 1 1 3 0 0-- Matthew, 1 son
under 16, Elizabeth and 2 daughters)
1791 200 acres Hughlett's District
1792 125 acres Vest's District
1793 125 acre Martin's District (listed as Matthew SR)
1795 100 acres Glen's District
1796 20 acres Martin's District
In 1797 a Matthew shows up in Martin's District with no acreage and 1 white
poll. This is likely Matthew JR.
Now, for a re-evaluation of the items MaryJean cited
1)
> > MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1755/75c married MARY ANDERSON (Ann) COILE* in
> 1794
> > STOKES CO, NC - Known children - SARAH CHILDRESS who married Mr. O'DELL
-
> JOHN
> > A. CHILDRESS who married DAWKINS or HAWKINS - [From my
> KYLE-KILE-*COILE-COIL
> > files] -
This one is confusing because of the birth data and appears to be lumping
the two Matthews (SR and JR). There is also a problem in the name of the
wife. Matthew JR married Mary (Ann?) Armstrong Coile --Bond date 14 Dec
1794, Stokes Co, Bondsman: William Childress Jr; Benjamin Childress. I've
no idea where they came up with the name Anderson. There appear to have
been two Sarah's, one in each generation. It was Matthew JR's daughter
Sarah who married Solomon O'Dell (identified as Rev. David Solomon O'Dell
b. 13 Jul 1805, d. 11 Apr 1862 by LeAnne Amox-Goudeau in a post to
CHILDRESS-L list 5 Oct 1999). Sarah is identified as Sarah Ann "Sallie"
Childress b.18 Dec 1808, d. 28 Aug 1869. Their marriage date is given as 18
Jun 1829.
2)
> > MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1771 died 1817 married MARY EAST, daughter of
> Isham
> > East and Mary - Son of William East lll - Son of Thomas East and Ann
> Perrin -
> > Source names John Armstrong Childress born 1813 as only child - NEEDS
> > verification - (Source, EAST descendant) -
Without getting into the East quagmire -- and yes there are differing
opinons on their ancestry -- I'll deal only with the Easts in Surry/Stokes
Co at this time. This could not have been Matthew SR since, 1) he is
clearly older than the suggested birth date by a generation and 2) his wife
and he are witnesses to a the will of David Johnson 3 Jul 1797, June term
1798 where he signs his X as Matt Childress and she signs her X as Jane
Childress and 3) Jane outlived Matt for she is the witness to a will in
1815. Note: David Johnson had a son named Matt, making it likely that he
was their son-in-law. Now, Isham East had a land grant adjacent to a later
Matthew Childress land grant (entered 26 Nov 1787, surveyed 28 Nov 1787,
issued 10 Dec 1790) and adjacent to William East. There are deeper
connections, but there is no need to pursue them at this time. It is clear
that the two families are connected in some way. Matthew JR is in the 1800
census with 0 0 0 1 0, 0 3 0 1 0 -- Matthew JR, Mary, and 3 daughters; in
the 1810 census with 3 0 0 1 0, 1 2 0 1 0 -- Matthew JR, Mary, 3 sons and 3
daughters. He is not in the 1820 census. The data on John Armstrong
Childress comes from an application for a pension for Isham East (see Kay's
post to CHILDRESS-L list 27 Jul 2000) giving a Bible record without
indication of relationship -- John Armstrong Childress and wife Mary, born
May 3 1813. While logically John Armstrong Childress should be the son of
Mary Ann? Armstrong Coile Childress, it is possible that she died after the
1810 Census and Matthew married Mary East and she had him as her only
child. I think that it is most likely that Matthew JR was the father.
Con
> [Original Message]
> From: Conduff Childress <cchldrss(a)mindspring.com>
> To: <CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 5/7/2005 12:19:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHILDRESS] More on MATTHEW CHILDRESS and others -
>
> MaryJean and List,
> Matthew Childress first appears in Goochland Co (Douglas Register) when
> he, along with William Sr. and Major (all listed as Childers), each had a
> daughter baptized on May 16, 1773. Both Major and Matthew took the Oath of
> Allegiance in Pittsylvania County in 1777 and both appear on the tax rolls
> there. Matthew then moved across the Staunton (Roanoke) River into
> Campbell County where William Sr. was residing. Again both are on the tax
> rolls there. The tax rolls and land transactions for Matthew dovetail
> perfectly for the two counties and from there into Surry Co., NC. All
> three move to Surry Co. (Stokes part) in the 1780s.
> The William Childress in Pittsylvania County is not likely William Sr. but
> some other William. Moreover, there was a Matthew Sr. and Matthew Jr. on
> the tax rolls of Surry/Stokes Counties, likely father and son. Mathew Jr.
> is the one who married the Coile with William Jr. (and his brother
> Benjamin, if I remember correctly)posting the bond. It is not clear which
> of the two Matthew's married Mary East, but I suspect on circumstantial
> data that it was Matthew Jr. There were close connections with these three
> Childresses (William Sr., Major, and Matthew) and Thomas East both in VA
> and NC. I've seen the posts you have involving the marriages, but no data
> to support the birth dates, so these should be considered dubious. I'm
> fairly certain (but will check) that the daughter Sarah, who married
> Solomon Odell, was not the daughter of Matthew Jr. but of Matthew Sr. so
> this part of the post you cited appears garbled. I'm also uncertain about
> your East post about the Easts themselves. Something about it doesn't look
> right but I don't have my East data handy at this time. Of course if John
> A. was an only child, then Sarah couldn't have been his daughter, then
> could she?
> The James who appears with Major and Matthew in Pittsylvania County may be
> the James who shows up in a census in Stokes (but he personally had no age
> given). What became of him is somewhat of a mystery at this point.
> Much (if not almost all) of this I have posted in more detail previously
> and I refer you to those posts in the archives. And, I wonder why you
> haven't bothered to pay any attention to those posts before making your
> post since I'm sure you have seen them.
>
> Con
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <MJCV25(a)aol.com>
> > To: <CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Date: 5/6/2005 12:57:21 PM
> > Subject: [CHILDRESS] More on MATTHEW HILDRESS and others -
> >
> >
> > Dear List -
> >
> > Re: MATTHEW CHILDRESS -
> >
> > In an earlier message, there was discussion of a Matthew Childress.
> Con's
> > message concerned Matthew in Stokes Co., NC - Here's some additional
> > information. Whether these records are linked, I don't know. You can
> decide for
> > yourself:) These are just some I had in my files - please verify -
> >
> > This is a previous message to the list - Regarding 1777 OATH OF
> ALLEGIANCE
> > for PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VA - "Magazine of VA Genealogy" - Vol. #23 -
> February
> > 1, 1985 - _www.rootsweb.com/vapittsy/Oaths.html_
> > (http://www.rootsweb.com/vapittsy/Oaths.html) - OR see below archive
> message -
> >
> > _Click here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetc
> > h2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDRESS-RESEARCH+2001+93460620+F_
> >
>
(http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDRES
> S-RESEARCH+2001+93460620+F)
> >
> > >From the above 1777 list - JAMES, MATTHEW, MAJOR and WILLIAM CHILDRESS
> -
> > Also check out all the surnames who signed. There are many who did sign
> who
> > connect to Childress.
> > *********************************************************
> >
> > MATTHEW CHILDRESS - PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VA, Township: 06 00,
Continental
>
> > Census, 1782, Page, 41 - VA EARLY CENSUS INDEX -
> > **********************************************************
> >
> > MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1755/75c married MARY ANDERSON (Ann) COILE* in
> 1794
> > STOKES CO, NC - Known children - SARAH CHILDRESS who married Mr. O'DELL
-
> JOHN
> > A. CHILDRESS who married DAWKINS or HAWKINS - [From my
> KYLE-KILE-*COILE-COIL
> > files] -
> > ***********************************************************
> >
> > MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1771 died 1817 married MARY EAST, daughter of
> Isham
> > East and Mary - Son of William East lll - Son of Thomas East and Ann
> Perrin -
> > Source names John Armstrong Childress born 1813 as only child - NEEDS
> > verification - (Source, EAST descendant) -
> >
> >
> > MaryJean Childress Voegtlin
> >
>
>
>
Dear List -
Con -
Re: Matthew Childress and the rest of them -
Thanks for the info - As of me, yes, I've read what you've posted to the
list, sure have. Since it's all in the archives, anyone who wants to read it
can. What I posted is what I had at my fingertips, without digging thru
mountains of files:) My research is on paper.
As for the spelling of their name, it was "Childress" from the 1777
Allegiance in Pittsylvania - Since this was what it was, I'll agree it was Childress.
MaryJean
Dear List,
A Josiah Childress paid a poll tax Moore's District, Surry County NC in 1802. This is the only year he paid taxes and the only record that I know of him in either Surry or Stokes Counties. From this we can infer that he was born in 1781 or earlier. The Childresses who paid taxes in Moore's District (existed1801-3, prior Campbell and subsequent Shores Reed) were
1801 Armajor 250 acres and 2 white polls (this is R. Major, he is most frequently listed as just Major)
1801 Matthew 40 acres and 1 white poll (this would have to had been Matthew JR since Matthew SR did not pay poll taxes after 1789)
1801 Stephen 1 white poll
1801 William SR 311 acres and 1 white poll and 4 black polls
1801 William 100 acres and 1 white poll (identified as William JR in other years -- son of William SR)
1802 Benjamin 100 acres and 1 white poll (son of William SR)
1802 Josiah 1 white poll
1802 Matthew 40 acres and 1 white poll (this is Matthew JR)
1802 William SR 310 acres and 6 polls (lumped in the tax rolls -- infer to be 1 white poll and 5 black polls based on 1803)
1802 William 100 acres and 1 white poll (identified as William JR in other years -- son of William SR)
1803 Benjamin 100 acres and 1 white poll (son of William SR)
1803 Matthew 1 white poll (this is Matthew JR)
1803 Stephen 75 acres and 1 white poll
1803 William SR 310 acres and 1 white poll and 5 black polls
1803 William JR 100 acres and 1 white poll
Notes: Armajor (R, Major, Major) went to TN some time after paying his 1801 taxes. He no longer appears in NC records.
Stephen is likely the Stephen of Joel fame and is definitely not the Stephen who went to TN, who I think was Armajor's son.
Speculation: Since Josiah is definietly not the son of William SR, this leaves Matthew SR or Armajor as likely fathers. Matthew SR is on the 1790 census with 1 male under 16. Matthew JR pays his first poll tax in 1797 and is in the same tax district as Matthew SR and so is most likely to be that son. This leaves Armajor as the likely father of Josiah ,and Josiah may have been the other white poll paid by Armajor in 1801. Josiah apparently did go to TN, which is also consistent with Armajor being his father.
Con
MaryJean and List,
Matthew Childress first appears in Goochland Co (Douglas Register) when
he, along with William Sr. and Major (all listed as Childers), each had a
daughter baptized on May 16, 1773. Both Major and Matthew took the Oath of
Allegiance in Pittsylvania County in 1777 and both appear on the tax rolls
there. Matthew then moved across the Staunton (Roanoke) River into
Campbell County where William Sr. was residing. Again both are on the tax
rolls there. The tax rolls and land transactions for Matthew dovetail
perfectly for the two counties and from there into Surry Co., NC. All
three move to Surry Co. (Stokes part) in the 1780s.
The William Childress in Pittsylvania County is not likely William Sr. but
some other William. Moreover, there was a Matthew Sr. and Matthew Jr. on
the tax rolls of Surry/Stokes Counties, likely father and son. Mathew Jr.
is the one who married the Coile with William Jr. (and his brother
Benjamin, if I remember correctly)posting the bond. It is not clear which
of the two Matthew's married Mary East, but I suspect on circumstantial
data that it was Matthew Jr. There were close connections with these three
Childresses (William Sr., Major, and Matthew) and Thomas East both in VA
and NC. I've seen the posts you have involving the marriages, but no data
to support the birth dates, so these should be considered dubious. I'm
fairly certain (but will check) that the daughter Sarah, who married
Solomon Odell, was not the daughter of Matthew Jr. but of Matthew Sr. so
this part of the post you cited appears garbled. I'm also uncertain about
your East post about the Easts themselves. Something about it doesn't look
right but I don't have my East data handy at this time. Of course if John
A. was an only child, then Sarah couldn't have been his daughter, then
could she?
The James who appears with Major and Matthew in Pittsylvania County may be
the James who shows up in a census in Stokes (but he personally had no age
given). What became of him is somewhat of a mystery at this point.
Much (if not almost all) of this I have posted in more detail previously
and I refer you to those posts in the archives. And, I wonder why you
haven't bothered to pay any attention to those posts before making your
post since I'm sure you have seen them.
Con
> [Original Message]
> From: <MJCV25(a)aol.com>
> To: <CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 5/6/2005 12:57:21 PM
> Subject: [CHILDRESS] More on MATTHEW HILDRESS and others -
>
>
> Dear List -
>
> Re: MATTHEW CHILDRESS -
>
> In an earlier message, there was discussion of a Matthew Childress.
Con's
> message concerned Matthew in Stokes Co., NC - Here's some additional
> information. Whether these records are linked, I don't know. You can
decide for
> yourself:) These are just some I had in my files - please verify -
>
> This is a previous message to the list - Regarding 1777 OATH OF
ALLEGIANCE
> for PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VA - "Magazine of VA Genealogy" - Vol. #23 -
February
> 1, 1985 - _www.rootsweb.com/vapittsy/Oaths.html_
> (http://www.rootsweb.com/vapittsy/Oaths.html) - OR see below archive
message -
>
> _Click here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetc
> h2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDRESS-RESEARCH+2001+93460620+F_
>
(http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CHILDRES
S-RESEARCH+2001+93460620+F)
>
> >From the above 1777 list - JAMES, MATTHEW, MAJOR and WILLIAM CHILDRESS
-
> Also check out all the surnames who signed. There are many who did sign
who
> connect to Childress.
> *********************************************************
>
> MATTHEW CHILDRESS - PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VA, Township: 06 00, Continental
> Census, 1782, Page, 41 - VA EARLY CENSUS INDEX -
> **********************************************************
>
> MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1755/75c married MARY ANDERSON (Ann) COILE* in
1794
> STOKES CO, NC - Known children - SARAH CHILDRESS who married Mr. O'DELL -
JOHN
> A. CHILDRESS who married DAWKINS or HAWKINS - [From my
KYLE-KILE-*COILE-COIL
> files] -
> ***********************************************************
>
> MATTHEW CHILDRESS born 1771 died 1817 married MARY EAST, daughter of
Isham
> East and Mary - Son of William East lll - Son of Thomas East and Ann
Perrin -
> Source names John Armstrong Childress born 1813 as only child - NEEDS
> verification - (Source, EAST descendant) -
>
>
> MaryJean Childress Voegtlin
>
Dear List -
Does anyone know anything about an ARCHIBALD CHILDRESS who was living in
Williamson County, TN during the 1820 Census?
ARCHIBALD is age 45 and older. - He has two males under 10 - 3 females under
10 - one 10-16 - two 16-26 - one 26-45. [ALL in his household] -
Other Childress in Williamson County TN Census for 1820 -
STEPHEN (45 and older)
WILLIAM G. (26-45) (son of above)
ELIZABETH (26-45) (Widow of Henry Childress) -
NELSON - (26-45)
ALEXANDER - (16-26)
MITCHELL (26-45)
Anyone know anything about him? Thanks!
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin