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Hi Mary Jean,
Thanks for the information. I have also been working on my Childress line
for some time. You will see my line as the Richard Childress line of
Pittsylvania County and also under Clayton Robert Childress in the DNA
records.
My line is really confused as there is a grave marker for Robert Childress
in Kanawha County WV that states he was son of William Childress and Keturah
Hawkins, born in 1756, a Rev, war vet, etc. Turns out, it was the Robert
Childress of Franklin County that was in the Rev. War and from Amelia
County. I have never been able to find anyone who can show me how a
Childress researcher found the information about the Robert Childress of
Kanawha being a son of William Childress.
I have found that Robert Childress of Kanawha came to Kanawha from
Pittsylvania County and I believe him to be son of Richard Childress and
Mary McMurdy. I do have some land deed records of Pittsylvania County, tax
records and also marriage records from Pittsylvania County to prove this
information.
Richard is in Pittsylvania County in the 1780's and Robert marries Polly
Turley in Pittsylvania County in 1799 before moving to Kanawha County about
1810.
It is this Richard Childress of Pittsylvania County that I am searching.
I have found the information in the Childress Family Association book Issue
16, page 11:
Childress, Robert: Born ca. 1680 Curles, Henrico County Va., married Agnis
1725, died in Amelia County Va. Son of Abraham Childress and Hester Cannon
Robert and Agnis Childress's children:
Robert O. Childress, born Henrico Co., married Dorotha, and died Prince
Edward Co. 1789.
Richard Childress, born Henrico Co., married Mary McMurdy
Susanna Childress, born 17 Aug 1732, Henrico Co.
John Childress, born Henrico Co., married Ann (Osborne) in Amelia Co., died
Prince Edward Co. 1784.
Childress, Abraham, born ca. 1655 Henrico Co., married Hester Cannon 1696,
died 1693 in Henrico Co.
Children:
Robert Childress, born ca. 1680, Curles, Henrico (father of Richard
Childress who married Mary McMurdy)
Philemon Childress, born 1682, Curles, Henrico Co., married Elizabeth Evans,
died 1717 in Henrico Co.
John Childress, born 1684, Curles, died 4 Oct. 1762
William Childress, born 1686 Curles
Sarah Childress, born 1688 Curles
Thomas Childress, born Curles, died Henrico
Henry Childress, born 1689 Curles, married Lucretia Jones, died 1726 in
Henrico
Other information sent out by Kay dated 17 Apr 2001:
Shows Robert Childress born ca 1680 parents were Abraham Childers and
Susannah Childress
Also, the DNA information looks like my line is closer associated with the
Philemon line vs the Abraham line at this point.
Any ideas on the above information or on William Childress and Keturah
Hawkins?
Thanks for the information and help,
Greg Whitlock
Hey Mary Jean, Kathleen and Others,
First let me say Happy New Year to all my Chdilress/Childers cousin! I hope
it will be a great year for all of us!
I went and read the posting about the "Viking Childress" and the information
there was far from the truth.
You can go to WWW.Familytreedna.com and there read the explanation of the
hablogroups.
The I is most prevalent in Eastern Europe and about 90% of the population of
Great Britain is in this group. I have not seen one thing there about being
from Turkey!
These DNA markers where of Viking ancestor mainly Iceland.
My Uncle did the test for me on the Hollingsworth project and we are also
from that I group.
I wish that my cousin Jan Rau and I had a male Childress to test for us and
we could have privy to the list. Lee, I will help pay for it if Jan has
someone! (oxoxox to both of you! I will be back to Annapolis in March!)
We have a mystery concerning Joel Childress in our family line.
Our John Childress and his wife Martha Calhoun moved to Rutherford County TN
in their old age. This is the same area of Joel Childress. As far I can find,
we have no relation to Joel so why did they move there when there son went to
Walker County GA? Did they have more children than we knew of. Was John
actually married before and children but the first wife?
I have been curious about this for years. I can find nothing at the TN State
archives about Joel's tombstone or even where his property was. I will keep
looking.
My Childress connections by way of males ended with John Childress JR as he
had all girls but I still think our linage was here before 1745.
Linda Sue
Hi Kathleen,
Thank you for your comments! Your right about confusion with the DNA
testing theories. From what I've read in the past regarding the Childress surname,
there is to much guessing. The "Viking" thing doesn't tell us anything at
all. What it does do is separate the families of Childress and Childers from
those of the Childress-List owners, Gary and Mark Childress. In my opinion,
this was their purpose in being a part of the DNA project. If you read the
introduction to their list, they say clearly, that their Childress family are
Scottish, period. They give their proof as - 1. The tombstone of Joel
Childress - 2. Their family tradition - 3. After the ARW, a huge influx of the name
Childress and that this could only mean the supposed "1745" arrival on their
own ship from Wales, (quote) as per the tombstone of Joel Childress.
I'll give you an another for instance. Since this list came out after the
Childress-List, we're allowed "disagreement" according to our listowner, Mr.
Bob. The other list didn't allow discussion or disagreement about the surname
variants, no Childrers, no Childrey, nothing of the kind, this is in their
introduction letter to their list. We all know from doing research on our
Childress family, that this is NOT possible! Variants abound for our name, due
to many circumstances.
If you've followed the earliest Childers and yes, Childres families in
Virginia, you'll see the name evolved or was perhaps part of, Childres or
Childress. It's my opinion from viewing original copies of deeds, wills and etc.,
that a court clerk or whomever copied the document would most likely write
"Childers" rather than "Childres." Even today, when my family makes a
reservation at a restaurant (and they don't know us) they will write down "Childers" -
Case in point. Hearing and writing the name as it might have sounded.
I don't have to tell you this, your a Childress! What I do have issue with
is the separation such as "VIKING" and "SCOTTISH." Where is the proof from
the Childress-List owners that those from VA into NC and finally into TN were
not descended from anyone named Childers or Childres out of early VA and
before 1745? It appears to be based entirely on the "1745 Joel Childress
tombstone theories." No doubt about it.
I for one believe there were various men who arrived by ship (ship list
prove this) who were from England. The 1656 William Harris deed between Abraham
"CHILDRES" would suggest this man had many descendants in America, what of
him? What of the man called "Abraham CHILDERS lll" by the Virginia
Genealogist? His widow's will (Lucy) and almost every other documentation shows her as
"Childress." My point being, there were those by that name in America during
the 17th century.
Joel Childress has been a hindrance in the progress for our family research.
This is all due to a tombstone which was used as a fireplace hearth
(tradition). What all was said regarding Joel's ancestry has been proven incorrect
so far. Joel's father was NOT shown to be JOHN, but Benjamin and his mother
was Susan. If it's so important what and who Joel came from, then research
needs to be done on him. Thanks to dedicated researchers like Lee Rau, the one
who found the court documentation on Joel Childress, we would have believed
the tombstone theory. Now we have proof of who Joel's parents were. There
is other proof out there, but there are some who just won't accept it.
Thanks for writing!
MaryJean
THANKS MARY JEAN. I HAVE HESITATED TO GET MY BROTHERS TO DO THE DNA TEST, DUE
TO THESE CONFUSIONS I HEAR ABOUT. THEY ARE CHARLES CLAY CHILDRESS, KENNETH
CARL CHILDRESS, AND MY DAD WAS WILLIAM CHARLES, AND MY GRANDFATHER CHARLES LEWIS
CHILDRESS. I KNOW I AM A CHILDRESS, AND FOR NOW IT SEEMS THAT IS WHAT I KNOW.
THE DNA DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD TRULY IDENTIFY ANYTHING ELSE.
THANKS, FROM HESITANT TO GET INVOLVED, KATHLEEN CHILDRESS HOLT
RE: Confusion regarding the DNA testing?
Hi,
I'm not sure if you asked me the question, but I have no problem giving my
opinion:) I'm a Childress thru my father. My mother is Scottish, French,
English and Welsh (so far:) When I began family research (1979), I was more
familiar with mother's Scottish ancestry, because mother's family were always
talking about it:) So, I began by studying the Scots and where they originated
from. This leads me to the Childress DNA and what the Childress-List (Gary
and Mark) have claimed and I guess the guy Patrick Childress, since he's
named on the Childress DNA website.
I'm confused and annoyed with their take on what a certain group of
"Childress" are, due to the grouping THEY developed. They call them (us or anyone
but them) "Viking Childress." Go to their website and read about it, you'll
see what I mean. They also say "their" Childress family were NOT from the
"Viking Childress" but were from the "Scottish Childress," yet they name a man
named George whose surname they said was "Childers".and that's probably their
ancestor. They say he came from Scotland and his occupation is what proof
they also say is important. Say what? Kay (from our list) recently listed
many, many, by the name of Childres and variants who lived in Scotland during the
17th century and also in England. Whose to say these English by whatever
name didn't migrate to Scotland for work or as soldiers or whatever? Just
because someone is living IN Scotland does not mean they were born there or WERE
Scottish. I'm sure you know the term, "Scots-Irish?" Scots living in
Ireland, happened all the time during King James reign, Scots living on property
once owned by Irish aristocrats, it was a mess, but back to the comments.
I want to remind you and anyone else on this list. You asked and these are
my comments and opinion on what they had to say. I don't agree, I think it's
premature to determine ancient origination of a family when there was proof
before the ARW as to who was here and when they were here. The variants are
the cause of all this "grouping," as to "Viking" and "Scottish." And I might
add, it all seems to be related to the (once again) tombstone of Joel
Childress and what the great grandson had in his recollection. I also believe the
great grandson was confused. Sure, his family came from Wales, but I don't
believe it was traditionally the Childress side. It's been proven that the
great grandson of Joel Childress descended from Welsh ancestry, along with
Scottish and Irish thru Whitsett (Whiteside's), Thompson, Williams and Philips,
very much so! Sarah Childress, Joel's daughter married James Knox Polk, whose
ancestry was Scottish (Pollock), but she had no children.
I'm also annoyed with the "New DNA Discovery" they claim and that's this man
named John S. ALLRED, that he's the SOLE ancestor of all of us, that is, not
Gary nor Mark's, because their "Scottish" and we're "Viking". Very strange,
ODD as all get out:)
Anyone whose done any type of genealogical research knows there were name
changes. All thru history in fact we see it. It happened in Scotland ALL the
time and in England. Not everyone way back when came from Childres,
Childress, Childrey, Childers, nope. They could have been running from the British
or from the law, whatever reason. They could have had a family fuss with a
father they hated, just like old Abraham's son. But certainly not ALL of us
coming from a name change, this is not possible. There's proof in early VA to
ignore the obvious. Name changes happen, but to say we, the "Viking
Childress" group come from a man named ALLRED and we are the bastard descendants is
way out there! Sounds to me like this is a real stretch, anything to solve
their problem, which is? What to do about the variants? What to do about the
lack of proof from a tombstone? What to do?
The DNA science is not perfect. To label US as "Viking" and their side
"Scottish" is not founded, when everyone whose studied Scottish origins KNOWS the
Vikings were all over the UK and Scotland and intermingled way before the
Childress or Childers or whatever variant came to America. Come on!
So, these are my complaints. I want answers. I want to know why this man
ALLRED is even in the picture? I remember one marriage between a Childress and
Allred, nothing during the 17th century.
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
IS THERE CONFUSION WITH THE DNA, OR IS THE TEST NOT ACCURATE??? I AM A LITTLE
CONFUSED WHAT THE PROBLEM IS CONCERNING THE DNA TESTS??KATHLEEN CHILDRESS
HOLT/TEXAS CHILDRESS/
CURIOUS AS TO THE CHURCH PARTICIPATION OF THE CHILDRESS FAMILIES---THOSE
GOING BACK AS FAR AS THEY CAN, WHAT DENOMINATIONS WERE THEY??
AS FAR AS THE EYES, MY GRANDFATHER HAD BLUE EYES SO LIGHT, AND PALE , BUT
THEY DREW YOU INTO THEM...........YOU NOTICED THE EYES; MY DAD AND BROTHER ARE
THE SAME........VERY UNUSAL BLUE, SO CLEAR, AND PRETTY.
Hi Greg,
I doubt this information will be new, but, you never know! My paternal
lineage, some at least, came out of Amelia County, VA, prior to that, Prince
Edward County, VA. So, I try to cover all the bases! Much of it is from my days
spent in the GA Archives in Atlanta. Other, would be snail mail correspondence
between myself and Childress researchers. Also letters and correspondence
with DAR, SAR, members of CFA and etc. I have boxes of data, wish I had the
time to go thru it all. I'll see if any of this helps with Childress/Childrey
you named.
Amelia County, VA -
1. 1736 List of Tithable Below Deep Creek - Amelia microfilm reel #55,
Library of VA, 1736-1771. This is about 2/3 of Amelia Co., prior to about 1735,
this was part of Prince George County. There were TWO Childress named and the
surname is spelt Childress, but NO christian names! I believe one would be
Robert and the other John, can't swear to that though. However, see the
following. My ancestor, Jeremiah Childress Sr., shown to be in Amelia Co. before
he received a land grant in Lunenburg.
2. Robert CHILDRESS, Amelia County., VA - Franklin Co., VA - In a letter
from Mrs. Cora Ginnings asking about the service record of Robert CHILDRESS, she
gave the following info:
Robert CHILDRESS, 1782-1791 in Prince Edward Co, VA - His son: JOHN
Childress, His son: John Milton Childress who married a CHILDRESS, His son: Newston
Childress: father of Cora Childress Ginning.
3. Thomas Childrey to Lewis Vaughan that you mentioned - Lewis Vaughan was
son of Abraham Vaughan of Charlotte Co, VA. Abraham named Lewis in his will
of May 8, 1795, probated January 4, 1796 in Charlotte Co, VA Abraham married
Ann Bouldin or Boudin (variants), both were born about 1735, some say Wales,
but that's not confirmed. The Bouldin family were in Prince Edward County,
VA and Charlotte Co., I would assume they were in parts of Amelia as well
before it was carved from Prince Edward County.
Note - There were about 4 marriages between Vaughan and Childress in early
VA. In the ARW pension record of a William Childress. He stated that he went
to the old 96th district of SC, to be with his grandfather who was a
Vaughan. During the research of my Ezells and Webbs, I had correspondence with a
relative. Bobby said the Vaughns, Webbs and Ezells were living side by side
and married into each of the three families and the Childress were close by,
in the same place. If you recall, Mitchell Childress married a Webb named
Hannah. There were also 4 Childress-Ezell marriages, two in TN, one in VA and
one in KY.
Abraham Vaughan and Ann had 11 children - William, Felix, Bolling, John,
LEWIS, David and Bailey - Daughters were - Milly (married Smith), Sally (married
Mahany), Nancy married JEREMIAH CHILDRESS JR., son of Jeremiah Childress Sr,
(my ancestor) - and Molly. - I have additional info if you need it. I'm
doing this from memory, so I may have left out a few:)
NOTE - Two of these VAUGHANS married Childress - Nancy and Milly. Lewis
Vaughan appears on my ancestor's will of 1810, Thomas Hamblin, who married
Elizabeth Seat. After Elizabeth died, Thomas married Jane or Jean widow of
Benedict Childress, grandson of Jeremiah Childress Sr. Jane Childress Hamblin was
my ancestress.
The Thomas Childrey? He could be the one shown as son of Benjamin out of
Charlotte Co. But as you know, there were quite a few named Thomas. He could
have been the son of the Childress or Childrey/Mayes marriage. Some records
have him as Childrey, Childres and Childrefs, take your pick:)
4. Robert and Richard Childress - I know there were some in Amelia and
Prince George, but the one's I have info for were in or passing thru Charlotte Co.
There was a Robert Childers, Childrey, Childres shown in the earliest tithe
records for Lunenburg Co. He obtained a land grant before 1750. There is
another Robert Childress who left a will in Prince Edward I believe, he is
shown with his wife, if you need that, I can give the info. He probably lost
children before the will was written or it was maybe a second marriage. He
seemed to be in financial difficulty. There was a Robert Childress who married
Rachel Estes, his line is documented. He served in the ARW. There are quite
a few Roberts!
Richard Childress - There was a Richard who married Jane Weaver in 1785
Halifax. There was a Richard who was connected to Nuchols. There is a Richard
who is shown on three copies of original deeds I have. - Richard Childrefs to
William PARRISH, December 4, 1778, John Childrefs witness - (Charlotte Co,
VA) - 1805 Charlotte Co - Indenture between William Childrefs and Fleming
Childrefs. Another from Richard and John Childrefs in relation to Henry
Childrefs, deceased husband of Mary Farmer Childress (spelling as shown) ALL in
Charlotte Co, VA. The copies of original deeds were sent to me by Cindy Childrey.
There were other Richards and Roberts, those who migrated to SC. Hopefully,
this will have helped. I think these are tough to follow, I've been looking
at all the Richards for years! Richard is a name in my Childress family,
all the way down the tree.
There is something else I can't locate right now. Kay might have a copy,
its the deed between the two (we think) are brothers, Thomas and William
Childress, Childrey and I think they were in Amelia Co. Kay, remember that one?
If you do, please give the info again, thanks!
Greg, next time you go to the courthouse, I suggest you have copies made of
the deeds, indentures and etc., that way, you can study them at home!
There's never enough time when we're having fun!
MaryJean
My a.. is all red from driving to Halifax today! Guess we're kin.
Regards,
Steve Stevens
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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:19 AM
To: CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHILDRESS] A New (DNA) Ancestor For the "Viking" Childress's? Oh
NO:)
A belated, Merry Christmas - List!
A fellow list member suggested I check out the latest DNA info on the
Childress-List. Have any of you followed it lately? I know some of you
have done
the test. I guess I need to just spill the beans here. The latest from
Gary
Childress is that the so called "Viking Childress's" (Oh Lord, that one
gets
me), are NOT really Childress at all. Their not even "Childers or
Childrey", their the descendants (out of wedlock) from some guy named JOHN
S. ALLRED!
Who in the world is this John S. Allred and ARE they kidding, is this a
joke? We are not Childress at all, we are the B word of this man named
ALLRED?
LOL. Sorry, hope this comes under the "disagreement" you allow on this
list, Mr. Listowner Bob?:)
How about it cousins, anyone heard of the ALLRED family and a JOHN S.
ALLRED
being the ancestor of the Childress's? Not only that, but this was
REALLY
our name to begin with:) I wish I could have discussed all this with my
Daddy (Theodore E. Childress) over Christmas, sadly, since he passed away
in
1995, I'm glad he didn't hear from me, about the latest info from the DNA
guys:) I won't tell you what my Daddy would say about that:) How about
y'all,
what is up with this "new discovery" to the Childress's ancestry? Notice
though, this ALLRED is said to NOT be the ancestor of the Scottish
Childress's,
nor to Gary Childress in particular, (list owner of Childress-List) but,
ONLY to those he labeled "Viking Childress". Whew, Lord only knows what's
next,
I can hardly wait:) Anyone have anything to say? Con? Steve? Jack? Anyone
named ALLRED?:)
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
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Thanks Mr. Bob Listowner, for the website! Tell me this, why do some folks
work so hard to confuse the simplest things? Don't think I have an ancestor
on the planet whose name was not altered at some point. That is, unless
their still where they started out and that's not likely. Your comments make a
whole lotta sense, thank you!
MaryJean
Hi Kay,
Thanks for giving me a big laugh for the day! Jumping fences? LOL - It's
all strange to me. It's a shame I can't take the test for Childress DNA, I am
a Childress, but female:) Contrary to what other folks wanna believe, I'm a
female and a Childress, never been anything but:)
I pulled up your July 2004 messages from this list. Lots of variants in
Scotland! Good Lord and many of them died there during the 17th century, about
the time old or young, Abraham "Childres" was in Virginia signing a deed from
William Harris, dated 1656. I think Abraham was the son of another Abraham
or even Philemon who was said to be Thomas Philemon "Childris" and who was
accounted for on the Bennett Plantation around Jamestown, VA.
If any of you want to see Kay's messages, go to the Childress Research-List
archives and see July 04, 2004, Part 3 Childress/Childers/Etc., FYI, K
messages, also Part 4. There were many in the Scotland records and England who
carry our surname and variants, so check those out. I guess our earlier
ancestors went from place to place, just like they did over here! One thing is for
sure, they (Childress, Childrey, Childers, etc.) were in England a LONG time
ago and whose to say they didn't migrate to Scotland? Sounds good to me.
Thanks Kay!
MaryJean
Hi List,
Thought I'd add my 2 cents worth to this discussion.
The post everybody is discussing is at this link:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CHILDRESS-DNA/2004-12/1103413939
Please cut and paste the address in your browser to get to this wonderful
post.
Oddly enough my 37 markers almost matched a person from North Carolina who
was another surname other than mine or Childress so I'm guessing, from what "you
know who" says, that I'm related to that person. Unfortunately I have no way
to contact the person since he didn't put his email address in his profile. My
guess is that he may be related through the Phifer surname.
I think I've said this before but if not let me state that one may draw any
conclusion one wants about the DNA testing and who one may be a descendant of,
but it is an inexact science at best. I take all of what I read on "the other"
list with a pound of salt, and a glass of port:)
Bob
Hi Linda,
RE: Where to find the Childress - Childers DNA info -
I'll walk you thru it first. For any of you who've not checked out the
rootsweb lists archives, this is the way you go about it and for all the lists -
1. _http://www.rootsweb.com_ (http://www.rootsweb.com)
2. SCROLL down to MAILING LIST (on the left side of the page) and CLICK on
SURNAME LIST FINDER - In the SURNAME BOX - Type in CHILDRESS.
3. SCROLL to CHILDRESS - DNA -
4. CLICK the BROWSE CHILDRESS DNA, THREADED ARCHIVES - DECEMBER, 2004 under
the message - R.E. NEWS, by Mark and Gary [Childress- list owners].
This message is also in the Childress-List archives for December 2004.
There are not many messages for December 2004, so you won't have a hard time
locating the message.
Also on the Childers-Childress Family Association webpage, they have the DNA
project information. A man named Patrick Childress is listed, I don't know
of him unless any of you do? If you wanted to write him about the DNA
Childress project, I noticed that he has no direct email address, funny, Gary and
Mark's (Childress) email address pops up. So I guess this Patrick won't allow
any emails, comments or, etc., to come directly to him. If any of you have
an email address for Patrick Childress, I would really like to write him and
ask what actual proof they have for the Childress they call, "VIKING" and for
that matter, this "new" thingy, our being the B word descendants of a man
called JOHN S. ALLRED!
Our list member "Kay" left a message on this list awhile back with detailed
info on Childress and Childers who lived in Scotland during and after the
time Abraham and Philemon (some say Thomas Philemon) were migrating to America.
What about THEM? Why was there no mention of these (if they were born
Scots?) who were shown to be Childers and Childress? As far as I can remember,
there were TWO mentioned by Gary/Mark Childress as having been a possible an
cestor for THEM. One was a man named George "CHILDERS". I think they said his
occupation was proof they believed linked THEM to the tombstone of Joel
Childress. How can you'all forget, "Came from WALES on their OWN ship in 1745",
Joel, son of Joel, son of Joel or another great grandson said, Joel, son of
John, son of Joel - something like that.
Kay, maybe this would be a great time to repeat your list of Childers and
Childress who lived in Scotland during the time of George "CHILDERS" whose
family (Gary said) disappeared. And for that matter, if you can find anything on
this man, John S. ALLRED, I would sure like to read about him! Thanks for
writing Linda, if you have a problem finding the messages, let me know!
MaryJean (Childress-Voegtlin)
Mary Jean,
Darling, can you send me a link to the DNA results?
I am interested in taking a look at it!
Thanks! Linda Sue
John Childress, 1755 , John Childress,SC , Nancy Childress who married John
Parrish born 1805
A belated, Merry Christmas - List!
A fellow list member suggested I check out the latest DNA info on the
Childress-List. Have any of you followed it lately? I know some of you have done
the test. I guess I need to just spill the beans here. The latest from Gary
Childress is that the so called "Viking Childress's" (Oh Lord, that one gets
me), are NOT really Childress at all. Their not even "Childers or
Childrey", their the descendants (out of wedlock) from some guy named JOHN S. ALLRED!
Who in the world is this John S. Allred and ARE they kidding, is this a
joke? We are not Childress at all, we are the B word of this man named ALLRED?
LOL. Sorry, hope this comes under the "disagreement" you allow on this
list, Mr. Listowner Bob?:)
How about it cousins, anyone heard of the ALLRED family and a JOHN S. ALLRED
being the ancestor of the Childress's? Not only that, but this was REALLY
our name to begin with:) I wish I could have discussed all this with my
Daddy (Theodore E. Childress) over Christmas, sadly, since he passed away in
1995, I'm glad he didn't hear from me, about the latest info from the DNA
guys:) I won't tell you what my Daddy would say about that:) How about y'all,
what is up with this "new discovery" to the Childress's ancestry? Notice
though, this ALLRED is said to NOT be the ancestor of the Scottish Childress's,
nor to Gary Childress in particular, (list owner of Childress-List) but,
ONLY to those he labeled "Viking Childress". Whew, Lord only knows what's next,
I can hardly wait:) Anyone have anything to say? Con? Steve? Jack? Anyone
named ALLRED?:)
MaryJean Childress - Voegtlin
I now own land previously owned by Childers/Childress in Halifax County near
Childers Creek and I am a descendent of "Childress'". I was fortunate to be
in the right place at the right time for once. My property was once a
tobacco plantation and several of the slave and tobacco barns are still
there in great shape. One of them has been converted into a primitive
cabin. The old main house is still on a sub-divided section.
If and when I get a chance I wll try to look up your Childress in the Court
House.
Regards,
Steve Stevens
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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:08 PM
To: CHILDRESS-RESEARCH-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHILDRESS] Childress & Cumby, Halifax, VA
Hi -
In Halifax County, VA were two marriages within a 2-month
span:
Eliza Childress m. Thos. R. Cumby 1 May 1833
Nancy B. Childress m. Alfred H. Cumby 24 Jun 1833
It seems likely that the Cumby men were brothers and the
Childress women sisters, but I have zero proof (other than
proximity in place and time).
If anyone has knowledge of either family, I would be in your
debt.
Kent
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This link will take you to the Lowell Indiana Public library site which has
several Childers/Childress photo's of various types. (all of the Childers are
my kin)
http://www.lowellpl.lib.in.us/photopeo.htm
Indiana Jack
Thank you, for your concern, I'm going to miss him a lot. He was one of the
last of 12 childern born to my great grandfather. He was a disabled vet from
WW2 having stepped on a rather nasty landmine which alerted a sniper to his
units location. Keeping them under fire for over 8 hours. Due to his wounds he had
to wear a leg brace the rest of his life and was in pain for years from those
wounds. He never complained though always had a big boyish grin when he same
you. He was proud to have served his county, flew an American flag every day,
and was very proud of his family. This link will give a bit more information
about him and theres a letter he wrote from France in 1944.
The old solider died quietly at home, with his family around him. After
suffering from a stroke some 3 weeks before.
http://www.lowellpl.lib.in.us/childerj.htm
Hi -
In Halifax County, VA were two marriages within a 2-month
span:
Eliza Childress m. Thos. R. Cumby 1 May 1833
Nancy B. Childress m. Alfred H. Cumby 24 Jun 1833
It seems likely that the Cumby men were brothers and the
Childress women sisters, but I have zero proof (other than
proximity in place and time).
If anyone has knowledge of either family, I would be in your
debt.
Kent