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Does anyone have information about a Martha or Mattie Fleck,
born abt. 1852, who married a William or Billy Chilcote? I've
found information from the Huntingdon County census on both of
them with son, William; and also a death announcement for
Mattie Chilcote, but can't confirm that her maiden name was
Fleck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Christine Boonie
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Hi,
Am I preaching to the choir? Or beating a dead horse?
Bud
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Some time ago I was working on a client's research. She had
supplied me with what she knew and explained that her father
was a first generation American. Her grandparents were from
Europe. Armed with the names, dates and places that she had
supplied me with, I took the research to the Family History
Library. I worked for two days (about 20 hours) and was so
thrilled when I was finished. Not only had I been able to
locate her father as a child in the 1920 census, but I had found
her grand parents in the passenger lists and been able to take
the line back another four generations to middle 1800s in their
home country. And of course once I got across the pond to the
old country I was working in a foreign language. To say that I
was quite pleased would probably be an understatement. But I
was so sure that she would be happy. I got home, typed up a
report and mailed her the results.
Three days went by and then the phone rang. I picked it up
and said "Hello" and heard "You've got the wrong family." It
would take some time to convince her that it was indeed the
correct family. And what was her reason for her claim? Two
of the children in the 1920 census were recorded with
nicknames instead of with their given names.
This is a common scenario in the genealogical world. I have
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different ways.
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Bud Burge wrote:
> Hi All,
Hey, Bud, good to see you're still around.
> Below are some references which demonstrate how widely varied the
> Chil.... name can be:
>
All but variants snipped for brevity:
> Chilcot Chilicoat Chilcoat
In the 1850 census for PA and the 1860 censuses for Huntingdon Co.,
PA there are also Chilcott and Chilcoate. In a perfect world there wouldn't
have been variations to begin with but in world a little more perfect than
our own there might at least have been some consistency. Having a family's
name change from one census to the next certainly doesn't make a
genealogist's work any easier...
Carey
Hi All,
Below are some references which demonstrate how widely varied the
Chil.... name can be:
Huntingdon County Pa. tax list, 1788: Shirley Twp., John Chilcot 180
acres, Joshua Chilcot 180 acres, Humphrey Chilcot 180 acres.
Huntingdon County Pa. tax list, 1786: Franktown Twp., Richard Chilcot,
non resident, 228 acres.
Bedford County, Dublin Twp., 1779 tax list: Robison Chilcot, 1 horse, 2
cattle.
Bedford County, Dublin Twp., inmates [ a kind of tenant] 1776, Joseph,
Robertson, and Richard Chilicoat. [tax list]
Bedford County, Dublin Twp.,1775, Roberson Chilcoat, inmate.[tax list]
Bedford County, Dublin Twp., Robeson Chilcoat, 1774 [tax list]
Ditto 1773.
Bud Burge
Hi,
I have tried to find the Chilcote Cem. which is across the street from
the Burge Cem. and behind a house near Polk in Orange Twp. It appears to
have been lost to time.
If anyone knows anything about it I would like to know what it's status
is.
Bud Burge,
Avon, Ohio
Michael D. Miller wrote to all on
Friday, July 09, 1999 11:04 AM
> Well, Bud, I see you're still on the list!! About 5 months
> ago you and I each did a posting. Then, about 2 months
> ago we each did a posting. Is there anyone on this list
> beside the 2 of us????
Well, there's me now but, more to the point, are there any OTHER Chilcotes
on the list or did I somehow subscribe to the wrong one? I'm from, and am
researching with my 4th cousin, the Huntingdon County, PA Chilcotes; the
ones who stayed behind during the great migration to Ohio and points west
and south, though we'd eventually like to include other areas of PA as well.
My cousin still lives in Huntingdon County so she's able to do actual
research with whatever actual data is available, while I surf the net from
VA to see what information has been made public by other researchers. I've
seen a lot of information on the Ohio Clan and those in some other locations
but the PA Chilcotes seem to have been neglected. What I've seen is
probably part truth and part fiction. One ged file I've seen, when combined
with data Christine's found, links me back to King Henry IV of England, of
the Plantagenet house. Nice fairy tale, don't you think?
If anyone here has any information about PA Chilcotes they're willing to
share, we'd be most grateful...
Carey Chilcote
Well, Bud, I see you're still on the list!! About 5 months ago you and I each did a posting. Then, about 2 months ago we each did a posting. Is there anyone on this list beside the 2 of us????
Michael